Re: [dev] Re-opening a milestone that has been announced as ready for CWS usage?

2006-08-09 Thread Pavel Janík
   From: Martin Hollmichel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:51:44 +0200

Issues should always be fixed on the next milestones,

I agree with this.

But an idea: in the past we have seen several step milestones as well. So
if the issue is critical enough, can't we just make *new* (next) step
milestone with only the critical fix added and make it available faster
than usual?

This can fix the We have to wait a week for fixed milestone reply.
-- 
Pavel Janík

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Re: [dev] Re-opening a milestone that has been announced as ready for CWS usage?

2006-08-09 Thread Martin Hollmichel
From technical perspective there seem to be no difference between 
milestone and step anymore,


Martin

Pavel Janík wrote:

   From: Martin Hollmichel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:51:44 +0200

Issues should always be fixed on the next milestones,

I agree with this.

But an idea: in the past we have seen several step milestones as well. So
if the issue is critical enough, can't we just make *new* (next) step
milestone with only the critical fix added and make it available faster
than usual?

This can fix the We have to wait a week for fixed milestone reply.


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Re: [dev] Re-opening a milestone that has been announced as ready for CWS usage?

2006-08-09 Thread Jens-Heiner Rechtien

Hi,

Martin Hollmichel wrote:
 From technical perspective there seem to be no difference between 
milestone and step anymore,


There was never a technical difference. It was just about the time 
Hamburg RE will hold a milestone which is absolutely meaningless for OOo 
 which is why it was dropped. There was a time when a milestone could 
be incompatible and a step not, but this distinction is meaningless as 
well nowadays. I'm just for increasing the milestone number, but if a 
majority wants an indicator if a milestone is meant as an emergency fix 
we should call them m181fix or even m181fix1 or something.


Heiner



Martin

Pavel Janík wrote:

   From: Martin Hollmichel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:51:44 +0200

Issues should always be fixed on the next milestones,

I agree with this.

But an idea: in the past we have seen several step milestones as well. So
if the issue is critical enough, can't we just make *new* (next) step
milestone with only the critical fix added and make it available faster
than usual?

This can fix the We have to wait a week for fixed milestone reply.


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Re: [dev] Re-opening a milestone that has been announced as ready for CWS usage?

2006-08-09 Thread Bernd Eilers


-1 for introducing something like m181fix1 or similar

Reason: This would be a change in the versioning scheme which would 
likely break something elsewhere where the version string is being 
parsed and broken up into subcomponents etc. This includes tooling like 
EIS as well as command-line tools and automated testing etc.


+1 for just increasing the milestone - a fix is just a fix no matter 
with how much emergency it was fixed


+-0 for using steps in these cases, as it does´t hurt because we already 
had them


Kind regards,
Bernd

Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote:

Hi,

Martin Hollmichel wrote:

 From technical perspective there seem to be no difference between 
milestone and step anymore,



There was never a technical difference. It was just about the time 
Hamburg RE will hold a milestone which is absolutely meaningless for OOo 
 which is why it was dropped. There was a time when a milestone could be 
incompatible and a step not, but this distinction is meaningless as well 
nowadays. I'm just for increasing the milestone number, but if a 
majority wants an indicator if a milestone is meant as an emergency fix 
we should call them m181fix or even m181fix1 or something.


Heiner


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[dev] OOo 2.0.4 status meeting

2006-08-09 Thread Martin Hollmichel

August 7th, 15pm - 15.15pm
Participants: Kai Ahrens, Uwe Luebbers,
Martin Hollmichel, Bettina Haberer

This group meet on Mondays 3pm German time on regular basis, please
contact me if there is the need to raise any issues for the next release
in this forum, we try to move to irc then or at least try to put your
issues onto our agenda.

In case you get this email as private copy as well, we think you need to
take action on this mail.

* RE this week: Ivo, Ruediger, Heiner, OOD680m1 to start Thurssday 10th


issue count for 2.0.4 went down to 63 from 144  last week, which seems
to be a bit hight just 3 days after code freeze date but a number of 
them are related to (expected) l10n issues.


OOD680m1 will start on Thursday with a few cvs declared as stoppers 
(also see 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/showdependencytree.cgi?id=68046), 
OOD680m2 will start Thurday 17th, which is last cws integration, will 
include localization12 (updated localizations), so that we still expect 
the release candidate for Tuesday 22.


Initial response time (IRT) for patches has been decreased,
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/patchreport/irt_index.html

Initial inactivity time (IIT) for patches is still on the same level,
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/patchreport/iit_index.html

The Patchreports now includes nice grpahs, it's worth to take a look on
them.

The demand for branching off OOD680 is not that high as expected, so we
are planning the branch around August 3rd to 10th, candidates for early
integration for 2.0.5/2.1 are cws writercorehandoff, configdbbe and
hcshared01.

Martin

PS: SRC680m182, which will be the start for OOo 2.1 release is planned 
for Monday, 14th.


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