Re: [dev] Re: [project leads] Re: [dev] Proposal : OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Hi Eric, all,

first of all i would like to propose to move any further discussion on 
only one mailing list. Maybe dev@openoffice.org because the 
d...@education is not part of this thread.


eric.bachard wrote:

Hi Juergen,

Juergen Schmidt a écrit :

Martin Hollmichel wrote:

I like and support this idea,



me too and i support the idea as well.



Thank you very much for your support too !

I was a big fan of StarOffice4Kids project 


Same for me : Long time ago, I even asked for see the sources, but for 
some reasons, I never found them. Long time after, when the need became 
obvious for the Eucation Project to provide an Education oriented office 
suite, I was very early in contact with Stella Schultze, to discuss with 
her about design issues, and some other reasons I don't remin exactly. 
And indeed, she suggested to have a look at StarOffice4Kids.



with more or less the same idea.


I agree I derived StarOffice4Kids name, to create the OOo4Kids one. 
Indeed the idea is similar. I don't know ho wthings where done with 
StarOffice4Kids, but we have decided to strictely follow what the 
teachers ask (in fact, they must demonstrate every need). Did you the 
same ?  Can you tell me more about that ?
I can't answer your question i wasn't really involved in the project and 
it was done by an external vendor. The colleague who mentored this 
project doesn't work for Sun anymore.




Nevertheless, there is at least one big difference : because of the slow 
/ poor / old machines most of the schools have, we decided to not use 
Java ( StarOffice4Kids is mostly Java if I'm not wrong), but maybe was 
it only a prototype ?
yes, probably the better way is to modify the existing user interface... 
StarOffice4Kids used the officebean and put an own simplified Java UI 
around.






Formally : create a new branch, completely independent of , 
including milestones, like OOo does


what do you mean by completly independent ? I would expect that this 
branch should kept in sync with OOo releases ?



Work on the same things should be done on the same code base. For 
example Eric talked about performance. Edu performance projects could 
be seen as sub projects of the performance project with a special 
focus on educational things, maybe driven as university project ...


In my vision of the Education Project working on performance issues, 
there are - I'd say - gurus, who do constitute the Performance projects 
core. On Education Project side, mentors and students who respectively 
teach and learn the good practices, and, for the best of the students, 
work on performance improvements. When the idea, and the resulting code 
will be enough, we'll join the performance meeting, and propose our work 
to be evaluted.


To be frank with you, I have some doubs yet another project/sub-project 
will help there (ihmo there is no need to complicate more), but I can be 
wrong.
well i don't talk about a real sub project. See it more as virtual 
project. One further effort to improve the overall performance under the 
umbrella of the performance project. And what is the performance 
project. It is one further aspect of the normal and always ongoing 
development umbrella.


As i have mentioned earlier i personally don't like our structure with 
all the different projects, many of them are useless and are not really 
projects. Other are very active and span a much bigger scope.


So i personally work on the OpenOffice.org project in different areas ;-)





The really new stuff from a user perspective is the interaction with 
this specific user group kids, the OO users of tomorrow.


Not only : the teachers are involved too. Most of the scheduled changes 
have been proposed by them, and without them, nothing would have been 
possible (they know better than us what is possible).

that sounds very good and interesting



Other extremely important thing: OOo4Kids is the way to enter in schools 
with free software.
yes of course and as i mentioned before, the kids are our users of 
tomorrow and they are the business leaders and decision makers of 
tomorrow ...





This is from my point of view very important and can be partly 
achieved or addressed with a customizable UI. 


I think this is not sufficient. We need to implement more than what we 
have today, and integrate more Education specific contents and so on. 
Believe me or not, but the only thing people want (not only teachers), 
is : simplify the UI. On MAc OS X side, this is the rule 20% visible / 
80% hidden law.
i haven't said that we have everything in place and i am sure that we 
have to do much more. But i see an overlap with the UX team here and 
doesn't it make sense to work closer together. Teachers and kids are one 
further user group with a different focus as normal office users.


My main point here is if we can find a way to customize our UI in the 
way that it becomes quit easy and efficient. We can define different UI 
themes for different user groups. One for 

[dev] I do want to participate as a programmer

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Re: [dev] What is soffice.bin used for?

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg

Hi Daniel,

 This is a newbie question, but what is soffice.bin and why does soffice.exe
 launch it as a separate process? Is soffice.bin just a copy of soffice.exe
 renamed to soffice.bin?
 Also, can someone please point me in the right direction as to how to set a
 breakpoint at the main entry point for soffice (i.e. where is soffice.exe's
 main() function)? I've compiled the 'desktop' module with 'debug=true', but
 when I copy soffice.exe and soffice.pdb over to my OO3 installation and try
 to launch, it always fails to load required DLLs.
 


Actually soffice.bin is the main executable.
The soffice.exe is basically just a starter and the crash reporter.
If for example you need to debug what is going on, you need to debug
soffice.bin.

Regards,
Thomas


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[dev] Re: [project leads] Re: [dev] Proposal : OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 9 août 09 à 12:40, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :


I support the idea of a version of OOo tailored for 7-12 years old
students.



And I say you thank you very much, for your support !



That said, I expected that the initial effort went more in the  
direction of including additional cliparts, providing educational  
content,



In fact, the OOo4Kids project, as just a little part of the whole, is  
not made for that, because there is something else already existing,  
to fit the need.


But let me explain more : the main objective of the Education  
Project, is to create a strong bridge between the Educationnal World,  
and OpenOffice.org Project. For that, we (not only me, but the people  
who participated to the IRC meeting, and the organization) have  
choosen  3 directions/axes:


Point 1:  create a network of academic correspondants ( and schools ! )
Concerned public: teachers, for cooperative work, provide feedback,  
link them with other OpenOffice.org Projects,  represent us in local  
events (*Education* oriented only)


Point 2: propose a space for content (pedagogical purpose only).  
Campus Libre, and our next toy
Concerned public: teachers, students for cooperative work, around  
OpenOffice.org and pedagogical contents  (only, nothing use of OOo)


Point 3 : attract new developpers (see Education Proejct Effort on  
the wiki).
Concerned public: schools, professors, students, developers,  
professionals .. and so on



Shortly : OOo4Kids is the way we to rely 1 and 3, thus, to work on 2.


So, the need is more complicated that the apparence let imagine, and  
what you are talking about is already existing (though, a bit young).  
Please search for CampusLibre on http://www.educoo.org website. (btw,  
feel free to provide whatever Educational material: it will be welcome)




P.S. : to avoid boring people, and for further information about the  
entire structure, please read :  http://eric.bachard.free.fr/ 
Education/LinuxDays2009/en-US/Linux_Days2009_en-US_ericb.pdf




simplifying the UI: more or less, the same indications I read in  
http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page




Simplify the UI is almost started (like menus in writer already,  
searching how improve the fonts, and so on). All of this is  
continuous work. Port important changes, make everything build, work,  
fix bugs, is the mandatory first step. And yes, I assume :  the 1.0  
will not integrate everything (excepted if 10 devs join the project  
today, and work all the summer on OOo4Kids  :-)




Instead, this list of 1.0 goals seems very aggressive in the  
direction of reducing/optimizing OOo,



And why not ?  :-)

The content, respecting the need and the reducing / optimizing,  
respecting the reality, are complementary there : we need to provide  
something simple (7-12 children) and light  (old machines, or XO,  
gdium low power netbooks).


Everything is compromise in this situation. Nevertheless, if you have  
a better solution to make the software work on poor in ram and  
powerless machines, please tell us. I'd be really eager to read your  
solution  :-)





which gets almost no coverage on http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/



I'm glad you consider OOo4Kids with such interest, but what you wrote  
about the coverage is not true.


This is the beginning (see the creation date), and everything is not  
concentrated on the wiki you mentionned : we have other places, where  
things are progressively set up. For example, in parallel, we work  
with teachers, and teachers managing teachers .. an so on, more  
people, institutions than it appears. And we must progress prudently,  
even silently from time to time.




and which will probably distract from the educational goal.



Sorry, but no. We never have been so close to the Educational goal,  
even doing optimization  :) (the one who will bring the most to  
OpenOffice.org). Apparently, we temporarly do not work for elementary  
level, but what we do does concern all levels, including high schools.


Doing that (reducing/optimizing OOo) is technically extremely  
interesting, for a lot of reasons. First, because we must have a good  
knowledge of the build process, and of the sources too. Second, we  
need to assume portability, stability, and even more. Third, we do  
all that with students (real engineers schools students), whom we  
explain how it works, how to trace. In fact, we teach them  
OpenOffice.org, and more generally Open Source way of life, but  
without disturbing the upstream process.


Last but not least, our contacts with schools participating to the  
effort are extremely promising.


As example, the last two days, we started to play with OpenOffice.org  
+ Valgrind with two students from Epitech Paris. Starting from  
nothing one month ago, both know already the basics of gdb, build OOo  
and OOo4Kids on Linux and Windows.  Believe me or not, but a lot of  
engineers schools would like to have such alive courses or their  
students.


Do I 

Re: [dev] Proposal : OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread eric.bachard

Hi Juergen,

Juergen Schmidt a écrit :

Hi Eric, all,

first of all i would like to propose to move any further discussion on only one mailing list. Maybe dev@openoffice.org because the 
d...@education is not part of this thread.


You're right, let's concentrate now :)

+ I fixed the title too ;)

eric.bachard wrote: 
I agree I derived StarOffice4Kids name, to create the OOo4Kids one. Indeed the idea is similar. I don't know ho wthings where done with 
StarOffice4Kids, but we have decided to strictely follow what the  teachers ask (in fact, they must demonstrate every need). Did you the 
same ?  Can you tell me more about that ?


I can't answer your question i wasn't really involved in the project and it was 
done by an external vendor.


Ok

 The colleague who mentored this

project doesn't work for Sun anymore.


That's not a good news :-/


Nevertheless, there is at least one big difference : because of the slow / poor / old machines most of the schools have, we decided to not 
use Java ( StarOffice4Kids is mostly Java if I'm not wrong), but maybe  was it only a prototype ?


yes, probably the better way is to modify the existing user interface... 


To avoid misunderstanding: we just need to simplify it, not make UI 
changes (teachers don't care about ribbons and co). The first changes we 
did were for legal reasons : as OpenOffice.org owner, Sun trademarked a 
lot of things, and as a fork, we respected that (e.g. creating our own 
Start Center).


The new is the behavior, e.g. we'd like to add a password to the prefs 
.. and so on, and include pedaogical objectives for students doing that. 
e.g. we' like to use the existing start center + the Impress wizard as 
-sort of- design patterns, to write two new wizards, opening predefined 
models in both writer and draw, but in two clicks, and insist on the use 
of styles.


.. and so on


StarOffice4Kids used the officebean and put an own simplified Java UI around.


Ok

In my vision of the Education Project working on performance issues, there are - I'd say - gurus, who do constitute the Performance 
projects core. On Education Project side, mentors and students who respectively teach and learn the good practices, and, for the best of 
the students, work on performance improvements. When the idea, and the resulting code will be enough, we'll join the performance meeting, and 
propose our work to be evaluted.

To be frank with you, I have some doubs yet another project/sub-project will 
help there (ihmo there is no need to complicate more), but I can be wrong.



well i don't talk about a real sub project. See it more as virtual project. 


No idea the name, in fact: we just do it, and we'll see later what is 
the result.



One further effort to improve the overall performance under the
umbrella of the performance project. And what is the performance project. It is one further aspect of the normal and always ongoing 
development umbrella.


As i have mentioned earlier i personally don't like our structure with all the different projects, many of them are useless and are not really 
projects. Other are very active and span a much bigger scope.


So i personally work on the OpenOffice.org project in different areas ;-)


Same for me, but the only way to be consistent and have some 
credibility. For the external world, it is to have an active Education 
Project, and people specialized in the domain, answering the need.



Not only : the teachers are involved too. Most of the scheduled changes have been proposed by them, and without them, nothing would 
have been possible (they know better than us what is possible).


that sounds very good and interesting


But needs a lot of energy, people and time


eric.bachard wrote: 
Other extremely important thing: OOo4Kids is the way to enter in 
schools with free software.


yes of course and as i mentioned before, the kids are our users of tomorrow and they are the business leaders and decision makers of 
tomorrow ...


I just limited my vision to stop seing a lot of governments pay zillions 
of euros/dollars for an office suite, while the need is already covered 
several times by free software.



I think this is not sufficient. We need to implement more than what we have today, and integrate more Education specific contents and so on. 
Believe me or not, but the only thing people want (not only teachers), is : simplify the UI. On MAc OS X side, this is the rule 20% visible / 
80% hidden law.


i haven't said that we have everything in place and i am sure that we have to do much more. But i see an overlap with the UX team here and 
doesn't it make sense to work closer together.


When we did the Mac OS X native port (IMHO the first real effort from 
the not-Sun community), we did a lot of UX changes, but nobody joined us.



Teachers and kids are one further user group with a different focus as normal 
office users.
My main point here is if we can find a way to customize our UI in the way that 
it becomes quit 

[dev] Re: [project leads] Proposal : OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Eric,

first of all, sorry for my late reply - quite many things are going on 
at the moment, and I didn't have the time to drop you a line earlier. I 
didn't have the time to read through all mails of this thread, so sorry 
if I missed something important. :-)


I already saw OOo4Kids and I really like the idea. From my side, OOo 
definitely should support the project and I'd be happy if it can become 
an official part of it. From a technical point of view, I don't know how 
this can be done best - as an extension, as a patch, as a new branch... 
I leave this decision up to others. No matter how it will be achieved 
technically, the more integral part it can become of the main OOo 
project and the better it will be integrated into our infrastructure, 
the better the reception will be.


If your preview is ready for the public, please let me know as I'd love 
to help you spreading the word by triggering some press contacts. ;-)


Thanks for your engagement and initiative!

Florian

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Re: [dev] Proposal : OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread Juergen Schmidt

eric.bachard wrote:
...


 The colleague who mentored this

project doesn't work for Sun anymore.


That's not a good news :-/
well he left for many years. The project is not alive and we probably 
don't want to go this way.


As far as i remember it, it was also task oriented, a simplified UI and 
they used a lot of predefined templates.


...
The new is the behavior, e.g. we'd like to add a password to the prefs 
.. and so on, and include pedaogical objectives for students doing that. 
e.g. we' like to use the existing start center + the Impress wizard as 
-sort of- design patterns, to write two new wizards, opening predefined 
models in both writer and draw, but in two clicks, and insist on the use 
of styles.


.. and so on
the idea with wizards to create a new text or calc document is usable 
for the general office as well. For example guiding people to use styles

would be perfect...

I like it to help new users and it should be possible to disable it for 
advanced users.




StarOffice4Kids used the officebean and put an own simplified Java UI 
around.


Ok

well i don't talk about a real sub project. See it more as virtual 
project. 


No idea the name, in fact: we just do it, and we'll see later what is 
the result.




But needs a lot of energy, people and time






We can define different UI themes for different user groups. One for 
kids, one for traditional office users, etc.


IMHO, there is no need to redefine a new look.  The teachers don't care 
about the look. they want something adapted.
i am not sure. We need maybe no complete new look but a fresh and modern 
look and i am sure we can improve things. But lets see what the 
Renaissance project will bring us, they analyze a lot of user data ...






I don't know if this is possible but it's worse to think about it.


Maybe you thought worth ? (sorry, my poor english striked again :)

of course i meant worth, in this case it was my pure English ;-)




We should try to work together in all the different areas and not side 
by side.



What will certainly work. Now, it's important work together, but not to 
be controled by.



Now, to answer you, all propositions are welcome. From our side, I can't 
remember the number of times I invited people, including developers, to 
present us what they do, under the form of IRC ClassRooms.

i know and i assume that it is in most cases simply the lack of time



Of course, the invitation is still valid : what about see people from 
performance, UX, whatever project, join and present what they do to the 
students on the channel ? The success of these ClassRooms is really 
important (I myself particulary appreciated the one from Philipp Lohmann 
(gsl), and Mathias Bauer (framework) ). At a point the system will be 
copied by other entities (teach OpenSource is in the mood).
i know and i wanted to present as well but simply wasn't able to make it 
until today. I promise that i will prepare something ...




As example, we could have people in charge to organize, one the UX part, 
one the performance part, one something else ..


Another possibility (add both works too), could be to see, at fixed 
hours/day in the week, be present on the IRC channel, and answer the 
questions the students could have. Have a dedicated wiki page, to 
prepare the questions .. and so on.
maybe, i personally don't really like IRC. I am sometimes online but 
most often i simply haven't it running. But that is something where i 
can improve myself.





IMHO, the best way is to see more devs joining : things will 
automaticaly improve afterwards, without the need to add administrative 
things in the middle. Waiting, I'd like to say a big thank you to 
Thorsten Behrens, Bjoern Michaelsen, Cedric Bosdonnat and Pierre 
Pasteau, who are present ~ every day on the channel, for the quality of 
their contributions. Other devs are welcome :)



.. all of that is just suggestions, of course :)

sure and we can't enforce something it's a free and open community

Juergen




Regards,
Eric Bachard



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Re: [dev] How to kill your CWS with svn rebase

2009-08-10 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi,

On Tuesday, 2009-07-28 00:47:27 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote:

 The problem was that I didn't call svn clean after svn revert and so
 all files that had been added previously (in the failed merge) still
 remained in my source tree, but not under version control (svn status
 would have shown them with a ? in front). The following merge caused
 by the successful cws rebase was not able to add some of the new files
 as they were already there, and so they did not enter my workspace and
 wheren't committed to my CWS.
 
 I wonder why I never got the slightest warning, let alone an error
 message, but anyway, I think the lesson learned is:
 
 Never forget to call svn clean after svn revert.

I just want to add to this:

In my CWS I tested a fix that involved a new file. In that long time
running CWS I forgot about it. The new file was added to trunk in the
meantime, and when rebasing the CWS the new file was not added to the
CWS for the same reason. A svn-clean would certainly had helped there,
though I would expect at least a warning or even better a conflict in
that situation.

I had to manually checkout and add the file to the CWS, svn merge from
.../tags/... failed with Cannot replace a directory within, svn
clearly sucked at that point.

  Eike

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[dev] specs for Migration analysis module in 3.2

2009-08-10 Thread Sophie

Hi all,

(added d...@l10n in CC so the l10n teams are aware)

For the next 3.2 version, we have a UI localization directory 
migrationanalysis which have :

src/driver_docs.po and src/wizard.po files.
Where can I find the specs for what seems to be Documentation Analysis 
Wizard and Professional Analysis Wizard?


I didn't find anything about it here
http://development.openoffice.org/releases/DEV300_m54_snapshot.html

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

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[dev] Re: OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread Gabriel Gurley

Hi Eric,

I apologize for the delay in replying as well.

I think Florian summed up my sentiments very well.  I too very much  
support OOo4Kids and and think it could be extremely useful for  
instructional purposes in the 7-12 age bracket.  But I'm also afraid  
I'm in the same boat as Florian regarding not knowing how best to  
implement it from a technical standpoint.


That said, I will be happy to assist in anyway I can.  Feel free to  
contact me if I can do so.


Best regards,
Gabriel Gurley
Contributor, OpenOffice.org Documentation and Education projects




Quoting Florian Effenberger:


Hi Eric,

first of all, sorry for my late reply - quite many things are going on
at the moment, and I didn't have the time to drop you a line earlier. I
didn't have the time to read through all mails of this thread, so sorry
if I missed something important. :-)

I already saw OOo4Kids and I really like the idea. From my side, OOo
definitely should support the project and I'd be happy if it can become
an official part of it. From a technical point of view, I don't know
how this can be done best - as an extension, as a patch, as a new
branch... I leave this decision up to others. No matter how it will be
achieved technically, the more integral part it can become of the main
OOo project and the better it will be integrated into our
infrastructure, the better the reception will be.

If your preview is ready for the public, please let me know as I'd love
to help you spreading the word by triggering some press contacts. ;-)

Thanks for your engagement and initiative!

Florian

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[dev] Re: [l10n-dev] specs for Migration analysis module in 3.2

2009-08-10 Thread Ivo Hinkelmann

Hi Sophie,

d...@openoffice.org brought that into the source code with cws paw06 . 
Please ask him for further info.


Cheers,
Ivo

Sophie wrote:

Hi all,

(added d...@l10n in CC so the l10n teams are aware)

For the next 3.2 version, we have a UI localization directory 
migrationanalysis which have :

src/driver_docs.po and src/wizard.po files.
Where can I find the specs for what seems to be Documentation Analysis 
Wizard and Professional Analysis Wizard?


I didn't find anything about it here
http://development.openoffice.org/releases/DEV300_m54_snapshot.html

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [dev] libxml2 dependency on zlib

2009-08-10 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 07/20/09 12:46, Rene Engelhard wrote:

The easiest fix is just to use system-zlib. At least for UNX.
Any (UNIX) system will jave it


No, the easiest fix still appears to just drop zlib support from our 
libxml2.  (For example, this also nicely fixes the open issue that the 
Solaris URE package erroneously lacked a dependency on the corresponding 
Solaris package providing the system zlib.)


-Stephan

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Re: [dev] libxml2 dependency on zlib

2009-08-10 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 07/20/09 11:49, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
So, if nobody requests continued support for zlib in libxml2, I will 
disable that feature in one of the next DEV300 builds.


Removed as 
http://hg.services.openoffice.org/hg/cws/sb113/rev/9f8e75ebe727. 
Dropping the dependency on zlib from libxml2, I also in turn dropped the 
dependency on zlib from libxmlsec, libxstl, and redland, assuming those 
were transitive dependencies brought in by direct dependencies of those 
modules on libxml2.  Let me know if that causes any build breakers in 
any elaborate --with-system-whatever configurations...


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Re: [dev] Re: [l10n-dev] specs for Migration analysis module in 3.2

2009-08-10 Thread Sgauti

Hi Ivo,
Ivo Hinkelmann wrote:

Hi Sophie,

d...@openoffice.org brought that into the source code with cws paw06 . 
Please ask him for further info.


Thank you. EIS doesn't provide any information too, so I'll ask him.


Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [dev] libxml2 dependency on zlib

2009-08-10 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 04:26:44PM +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 07/20/09 12:46, Rene Engelhard wrote:
 The easiest fix is just to use system-zlib. At least for UNX.
 Any (UNIX) system will jave it

 No, the easiest fix still appears to just drop zlib support from our  
 libxml2.  (For example, this also nicely fixes the open issue that the  
 Solaris URE package erroneously lacked a dependency on the corresponding  
 Solaris package providing the system zlib.)

And a libxml2 in the ure package linked against libz.so.1 would not
cause a dependency on whatever package that is in for you? Sounds
broken to me.

Otherwise it just should pick it up and you're fine; and again
zlib is there on all platforms anyway, and stuff we already use
externally in any case are linked against zlib anyway to start with.

Regards,

Rene

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[dev] Unable to build on cygwin

2009-08-10 Thread Kristján Bjarni Guðmundsson
I am having major problems building both m53 and m54 on cygwin. See previous
emails from me about the issues. I can't currently build language builds on
cygwin with either m53 or m54. I can build en-US on m53, but no other
language build on m53 and I can't build any build on m54 at all.

Does anybody know what was the last version of DEV300_m?? that build
successfully with extra languages on cygwin?

thanks
 - Kristján


[dev] Re: libxml2 dependency on zlib

2009-08-10 Thread Michael Stahl
Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 07/20/09 11:49, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 So, if nobody requests continued support for zlib in libxml2, I will 
 disable that feature in one of the next DEV300 builds.
 
 Removed as 
 http://hg.services.openoffice.org/hg/cws/sb113/rev/9f8e75ebe727. 
 Dropping the dependency on zlib from libxml2, I also in turn dropped the 
 dependency on zlib from libxmlsec, libxstl, and redland, assuming those 
 were transitive dependencies brought in by direct dependencies of those 
 modules on libxml2.  Let me know if that causes any build breakers in 
 any elaborate --with-system-whatever configurations...
 
 -Stephan

hi stephan,

just noticed that libxmlsec/xmlsec1-1.2.6.patch contains its own hacked up
version of the xml2-config script. sometime last year i've changed the
libxml2 module so it delivers its own xml2-config into the solver
(surprisingly, that was not done before), and removed another such script
from, iirc, libxslt. seems like i missed this one. given that you play
with this stuff anyway, can you try just removing the xml2-config from the
libxmlsec patch?

-- 
C++ has the lethal combination of looking all nice and simple on
 the surface and having lots of traps installed under the surface,
 waiting for a victim. -- Yossi Kreinin


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[dev] Does building openoffice need kde?

2009-08-10 Thread huang huang
Hi,

Got OOo's source code from svn://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/trunk,
while I run ./configure, it gave messages:

Possible unintended interpolation of @ENABLE_KDE4 in string at ./set_soenv
line 1693.
Possible unintended interpolation of @KDE4_CFLAGS in string at ./set_soenv
line 1694.
Possible unintended interpolation of @KDE4_LIBS in string at ./set_soenv
line 1695.
Possible unintended interpolation of @MOC4 in string at ./set_soenv line
1696.
Global symbol @ENABLE_KDE4 requires explicit package name at ./set_soenv
line 1693.
Global symbol @KDE4_CFLAGS requires explicit package name at ./set_soenv
line 1694.
Global symbol @KDE4_LIBS requires explicit package name at ./set_soenv
line 1695.
Global symbol @MOC4 requires explicit package name at ./set_soenv line
1696.
Execution of ./set_soenv aborted due to compilation errors.

I am not sure what these mean, but I can't continue my building work. Is
there anyone can help you? I am working under ubuntu 9.04.