Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-15 Thread rony
Hi Stephan,

On 14.09.2010 14:55, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 09/14/10 08:21, rony wrote:
 The logfile (and a text-file giving information on the system) can be
 found at:http://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/tmp/OOo/.

 One odd thing in
 http://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/tmp/OOo/ubuntu%5fdesktop%5f1004%5fsoffice%2estrace%2elog
 is that all attempts to access the OOo per-user data in
 /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3/user fail with EACCESS
 (Permission denied).  It looks like user administrator has no rights
 to access his home directory (/home/administrator).  What is the
 output of ls -alF /home/administrator, ls -alF
 /home/administrator/.openoffice.org, ls -alF
 /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3, and ls -alF
 /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3/user?

Could get at the machine yesterday night, here the results:

administra...@flatscher:~$ ls -alF /home/administrator/  hadm.txt

insgesamt 1372
drwxr-xr-x 33 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-14 22:13 ./
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root 4096 2010-09-06 09:14 ../
-rw---  1 root  root  263 2010-09-06 09:34 
.bash_history
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator 220 2010-09-06 09:14 
.bash_logout
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator3103 2010-09-12 18:34 .bashrc
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 Bilder/
drwx--  5 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-14 22:09 .cache/
drwx--  3 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 .compiz/
drwxr-xr-x  6 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:24 .config/
drwx--  3 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 .dbus/
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 11:19 Desktop/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator  41 2010-09-14 22:09 .dmrc
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 
Dokumente/
drwxr-xr-x  3 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:57 
Downloads/
-rw---  1 administrator administrator  16 2010-09-06 09:20 .esd_auth
drwxr-xr-x  3 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 11:07 
.evolution/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator 179 2010-09-06 09:14 
examples.desktop
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 11:16 
.fontconfig/
drwx--  4 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-14 22:09 .gconf/
drwx--  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-14 22:11 .gconfd/
-rw-r-  1 administrator administrator   0 2010-09-12 18:25 
.gksu.lock
drwx--  8 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-13 23:17 .gnome2/
drwx--  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 
.gnome2_private/
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 
.gstreamer-0.10/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator 175 2010-09-14 22:09 
.gtk-bookmarks
dr-x--  2 administrator administrator   0 2010-09-14 22:09 .gvfs/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator   0 2010-09-14 22:13 hadm.txt
drwxr-  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-12 19:14 .hplip/
-rw---  1 administrator administrator4290 2010-09-14 22:09 
.ICEauthority
drwx--  3 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 .local/
drwx--  2 root  root 4096 2010-09-06 09:28 .mc/
drwx--  4 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:54 .mozilla/
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 Musik/
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 
.nautilus/
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 
Öffentlich/
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root 4096 2010-09-06 10:04 
.openoffice.org/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator  37 2010-09-12 19:14 
.printer-groups.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator 675 2010-09-06 09:14 .profile
drwx--  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-14 22:09 .pulse/
-rw---  1 administrator administrator 256 2010-09-06 09:20 
.pulse-cookie
-rw---  1 administrator administrator2202 2010-09-13 23:17 
.recently-used.xbel
drwx--  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 11:19 .ssh/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator   0 2010-09-06 09:24 
.sudo_as_admin_successful
drwx--  3 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 
.thumbnails/
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator 1201596 2010-09-13 23:13 
ubuntu_desktop_1004_soffice.strace.log
-rw-r--r--  1 administrator administrator 550 2010-09-13 23:17 
ubuntu_desktop_1004_soffice.txt
drwx--  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:24 
.update-notifier/
drwxr-xr-x  2 administrator administrator4096 2010-09-06 09:20 Videos/
-rw---  1 root  root 1525 2010-09-06 09:34 .viminfo

Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-15 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 09/15/10 08:12, rony wrote:

 administra...@flatscher:~$ ls -alF /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/  
hadm-ooo.txt

 insgesamt 12
 drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root  4096 2010-09-06 10:04 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 33 administrator administrator 4096 2010-09-14 22:13 ../
 drwx--  3 root  root  4096 2010-09-06 10:04 3/


This is the problem:  First, /home/administrator/.openoffice.org is 
owned by root and not writable by anybody else (esp. not 
administrator).  Second, /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3 is 
owned by root and not even traversable by anybody else (esp. not 
administrator).


Whatever you did to end up with such a setup, I suggest you

  sudo chown -R administator:administrator 
/home/administrator/.openoffice.org


to clean up the mess.  :)

-Stephan

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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-15 Thread rony
Dear Stephan,

On 15.09.2010 11:51, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 09/15/10 08:12, rony wrote:
  administra...@flatscher:~$ ls -alF
 /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/  hadm-ooo.txt

  insgesamt 12
  drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root  4096 2010-09-06 10:04 ./
  drwxr-xr-x 33 administrator administrator 4096 2010-09-14 22:13 ../
  drwx--  3 root  root  4096 2010-09-06 10:04 3/

 This is the problem:  First, /home/administrator/.openoffice.org is
 owned by root and not writable by anybody else (esp. not
 administrator).  Second, /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3 is
 owned by root and not even traversable by anybody else (esp. not
 administrator).

 Whatever you did to end up with such a setup, 
if I just knew, if I just knew...
:(

 I suggest you

   sudo chown -R administator:administrator
 /home/administrator/.openoffice.org

 to clean up the mess.  :)

:-)

Thank you very much for your efforts !

Best Regards

---rony

P.S.: Just noticed today, that I may have not been subscribed to this
list, so I explicitly subscirbed to it (sorry to the list moderator).




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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-15 Thread Joost Andrae

Hi,




I suggest you

   sudo chown -R administator:administrator
/home/administrator/.openoffice.org

to clean up the mess.  :)


:-)

Thank you very much for your efforts !



I believe you just mixed up 'su -' with 'su' ...

Kind regards, Joost

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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-14 Thread rony
Hi Stephan,

thank you very much for your feedback!

The logfile (and a text-file giving information on the system) can be
found at: http://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/tmp/OOo/.

Please do not invest too much time as I am confident that uninstalling
Ubuntu's OOo and installing the genuine OOo will make OOo available with
scripting on that particular machine (so it is more curiosity than
necessity to figure out what is happening on that Ubuntu-10.04-desktop
installation, which came without Java orginally).

Regards,

---rony


On 13.09.2010 17:47, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 09/13/10 15:13, rony wrote:
 O.K., I uninstalled everything on this weekend that smelled like Java,
 however the behaviour of the Ubuntu-installed OOo did not change, i.e.
 OOo could not get started, the error message is just:

  Running soffice from the command line gives the following output
 on the commandline:

  javaldx failed!

 So, this happens while no genuine (from download.openoffice.org) OOo
 is installed, just the one that comes with Ubuntu?  (Otherwise, it
 could be some unexpected interference between the two installations.)

 What might give a clue is to run

   strace -f -o logfile .../soffice

 (with ... replaced with the path to soffice) and make the resulting
 logfile (which can be huge) available.  Strictly speaking, this is
 probably the wrong forum for this problem, as it appears to be
 specific to the Ubuntu-specific OOo, but I might nonetheless find time
 to have a quick glance at the output, to see if something obvious goes
 wrong.

 -Stephan

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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 09/14/10 08:21, rony wrote:

The logfile (and a text-file giving information on the system) can be
found at:http://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/tmp/OOo/.


One odd thing in 
http://wi.wu.ac.at/rgf/tmp/OOo/ubuntu%5fdesktop%5f1004%5fsoffice%2estrace%2elog 
is that all attempts to access the OOo per-user data in 
/home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3/user fail with EACCESS (Permission 
denied).  It looks like user administrator has no rights to access his 
home directory (/home/administrator).  What is the output of ls -alF 
/home/administrator, ls -alF /home/administrator/.openoffice.org, ls 
-alF /home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3, and ls -alF 
/home/administrator/.openoffice.org/3/user?


-Stephan

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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-13 Thread rony
O.K., I uninstalled everything on this weekend that smelled like Java,
however the behaviour of the Ubuntu-installed OOo did not change, i.e.
OOo could not get started, the error message is just:

Running soffice from the command line gives the following output on the 
commandline:

javaldx failed!
  

Did not uninstall the Ubuntu OOo (and reinstall the genuine one) for the
time being, such that I would be able to test whatever people think may
help clarify the problem. (OTOH, it may be the case that something went
wrong installing the Java distributions and although uninstalling all
Java may have left over some settings that are causing this phenomenon.)

---rony



On 06.09.2010 20:36, rony wrote:
 On 06.09.2010 16:47, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
   
 On 09/06/10 12:39, rony wrote:
 
 On 06.09.2010 11:55, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
   
 On 09/06/10 11:37, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 
 After a fresh install of a German Ubuntu-desktop 10.4.1 and
 starting any
 OOo module a popup error comes along informing one that OOo cannot
 determine the user-interface language and then aborts.
   
 So that would be the OOo included in the Ubuntu distro, right?
 
 Yes.
   
 Was there any OOo user data left from a previous OOo (probably some
 hidden directory starting with .o in the home directory)?
 
 No, it was a fresh install on a freshly formatted partition.

   
 Which OOo version is this, by the way?
 
 2.3.0 AFAIR.

   
 headless openjdk got installed (there was no Java installed at all),
   
 Before trying out OOo the first time on that new installation the

 OOo without Java should work fine (minus the parts using Java, of
 course), so you might want to check whether OOo starts if you remove
 Java again.
 
 Will try to do that, the machine is not in my realm anymore, but I
 should get access on the weekend the latest.

 ---rony


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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because

2010-09-13 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 09/13/10 15:13, rony wrote:

O.K., I uninstalled everything on this weekend that smelled like Java,
however the behaviour of the Ubuntu-installed OOo did not change, i.e.
OOo could not get started, the error message is just:

 Running soffice from the command line gives the following output on the 
commandline:

 javaldx failed!


So, this happens while no genuine (from download.openoffice.org) OOo 
is installed, just the one that comes with Ubuntu?  (Otherwise, it could 
be some unexpected interference between the two installations.)


What might give a clue is to run

  strace -f -o logfile .../soffice

(with ... replaced with the path to soffice) and make the resulting 
logfile (which can be huge) available.  Strictly speaking, this is 
probably the wrong forum for this problem, as it appears to be specific 
to the Ubuntu-specific OOo, but I might nonetheless find time to have a 
quick glance at the output, to see if something obvious goes wrong.


-Stephan

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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because the UI language cannot be determined !

2010-09-07 Thread rony

On 06.09.2010 16:47, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 09/06/10 12:39, rony wrote:
 On 06.09.2010 11:55, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 09/06/10 11:37, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 After a fresh install of a German Ubuntu-desktop 10.4.1 and
 starting any
 OOo module a popup error comes along informing one that OOo cannot
 determine the user-interface language and then aborts.

 So that would be the OOo included in the Ubuntu distro, right?
 Yes.

 Was there any OOo user data left from a previous OOo (probably some
 hidden directory starting with .o in the home directory)?
No, it was a fresh install on a freshly formatted partition.

 Which OOo version is this, by the way?
2.3.0 AFAIR.

 headless openjdk got installed (there was no Java installed at all),
 Before trying out OOo the first time on that new installation the

 OOo without Java should work fine (minus the parts using Java, of
 course), so you might want to check whether OOo starts if you remove
 Java again.

Will try to do that, the machine is not in my realm anymore, but I
should get access on the weekend the latest.

---rony


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[dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because the UI language cannot be determined !

2010-09-06 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi there,

not having found an appropriate e-mail list to report/ask about this
problem, but hoping that some soul kind can give hints/advice. Please
advise what mailing list would be the appropriate one for questions like
this.

After a fresh install of a German Ubuntu-desktop 10.4.1 and starting any
OOo module a popup error comes along informing one that OOo cannot
determine the user-interface language and then aborts.

Running soffice from the command line gives
http://wi.wu.ac.at:8002/rgf/tmp/OOo/ErrorOOo-on-Ubuntu-10.4.1-desktop-German.png
gives the following output on the commandline:

[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument
(elements.cxx).
javaldx failed!

Before installing the community edition of OOo I just was wondering what
the cause of such an unexpected behaviour could be (giving a bad
impression on the casual user who may want to look into OOo and learns,
that it does not work) and how to remedy it?

TIA,

---rony





Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because the UI language cannot be determined !

2010-09-06 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 09/06/10 11:37, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

After a fresh install of a German Ubuntu-desktop 10.4.1 and starting any
OOo module a popup error comes along informing one that OOo cannot
determine the user-interface language and then aborts.


So that would be the OOo included in the Ubuntu distro, right?  Looks 
completely broken, esp. strange on a fresh install.  (That UI 
language cannot be determined message is somewhat of a red herring, it 
typically means that the OOo installation is so screwed up that starting 
it fails really early, trying to access the first UNO component, which 
happens to be configmgr.)


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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because the UI language cannot be determined !

2010-09-06 Thread rony

On 06.09.2010 11:55, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 09/06/10 11:37, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 After a fresh install of a German Ubuntu-desktop 10.4.1 and starting any
 OOo module a popup error comes along informing one that OOo cannot
 determine the user-interface language and then aborts.

 So that would be the OOo included in the Ubuntu distro, right?  
Yes.
 Looks completely broken, esp. strange on a fresh install.
Yes.

Before trying out OOo the first time on that new installation the
headless openjdk got installed (there was no Java installed at all),
then after learning that headless meant headless (ie. no awt support) I
downloaded the version that contained it, if that makes a difference.

 (That UI language cannot be determined message is somewhat of a red
 herring, it typically means that the OOo installation is so screwed up
 that starting it fails really early, trying to access the first UNO
 component, which happens to be configmgr.)
Ah, I see, thank you very much for your explanations!

Regards,

---rony


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Re: [dev] Ubuntu desktop 10.4.1 de: Cannot start OOo, because the UI language cannot be determined !

2010-09-06 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 09/06/10 12:39, rony wrote:

On 06.09.2010 11:55, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

On 09/06/10 11:37, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

After a fresh install of a German Ubuntu-desktop 10.4.1 and starting any
OOo module a popup error comes along informing one that OOo cannot
determine the user-interface language and then aborts.


So that would be the OOo included in the Ubuntu distro, right?

Yes.


Was there any OOo user data left from a previous OOo (probably some 
hidden directory starting with .o in the home directory)?


Which OOo version is this, by the way?


Before trying out OOo the first time on that new installation the
headless openjdk got installed (there was no Java installed at all),


OOo without Java should work fine (minus the parts using Java, of 
course), so you might want to check whether OOo starts if you remove 
Java again.


-Stephan

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