Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-27 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira

Christian Lohmaier, 26-11-2008 07:20:

 It's based on open source Bugzilla, but sadly it is not open source.


http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18


Thanks, Christian. I heard it was proprietary.
But sadly is true that they unlikely will upgrade to a newer version of 
bugzilla.




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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-26 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
Hi all,

Sorry for duplicate myself but what do you think about this proposal?

* trac to IssueZilla!

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira
 Well... I'm not sure, but I think Issuezilla has been discontinued, so we
 shouldn't expect news.
 I am quite unhappy with what IssueZilla provides. Plus, it is a closed
 source so we can't extend or change it.

 trac[1] is widely used among opensource community. A Ticket in trac
 is equivalent to an Issue in IZ. The workflow of QA process is quite
 similar to IZ. Another salepoint of trac is that it supports wiki
 format.

 trac can also act as an svn. But a problem is that we must install
 trac in the same server as svn because at  the moment, trac cannot
 read remote svn.

 trac also has it builtin wiki. I don't know if OOo wiki needs it( of
 course, wiki format is a big salepoint of trac).


 [1] http://trac.edgewall.org/



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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-26 Thread Tor Lillqvist
 Sorry for duplicate myself but what do you think about this proposal?
 
 * trac to IssueZilla!

Not likely to happen, even if it would bring benefits, which I am not at all 
sure of.

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:50 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira
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 Nguyen Vu Hung, 12-11-2008 14:26:

  Sadly, we don't really have control over IssueZilla, so it's effectively
  impossible to change/enhance IZ's permission system.

 I have no idea about IssueZilla but is it an open source?
 If it is, Yes We Can Change.

 No, it is not.

Well, not exactly true, but even if it was fully opensource and
available, we would be able to change the sourcecode, but we won't be
able to replace the issueZilla that runs on the site with our modified
version.

 It's based on open source Bugzilla, but sadly it is not open source.

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18

ciao
Christian

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-26 Thread Rich

On 2008.11.26. 11:55, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry for duplicate myself but what do you think about this proposal?

* trac to IssueZilla!


i'm not a dev and i have no say at these issues (pun intended), but to 
relieve devs from answering this, i'll make a quite educated guess that 
this is unlikely to say the least ;)
first, it would be a massive, massive effort. not something to be 
undertaken, especially as issuezilla was (relatively) recently upgraded.


if devs get annoyed enough, maybe we could see a move to bugzilla one 
day, but i don't see that one happening in the coming years either.



On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira

Well... I'm not sure, but I think Issuezilla has been discontinued, so we
shouldn't expect news.

I am quite unhappy with what IssueZilla provides. Plus, it is a closed
source so we can't extend or change it.

trac[1] is widely used among opensource community. A Ticket in trac
is equivalent to an Issue in IZ. The workflow of QA process is quite
similar to IZ. Another salepoint of trac is that it supports wiki
format.

trac can also act as an svn. But a problem is that we must install
trac in the same server as svn because at  the moment, trac cannot
read remote svn.

trac also has it builtin wiki. I don't know if OOo wiki needs it( of
course, wiki format is a big salepoint of trac).


[1] http://trac.edgewall.org/

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-26 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira

Nguyen Vu Hung, 26-11-2008 06:55:

Hi all,

Sorry for duplicate myself but what do you think about this proposal?

* trac to IssueZilla!


I'm not the better person to talk about it, since it is much related to 
infrastructure.

Collabnet provide us hosting the site and some tools, like issuezilla.

Issuezilla has a interface with the code versioning system and the 
actual database is Collabnet responsibility.


Would be a massive effort to migrate to trac. We would loose the 
Collabnet support (which is very good), and I don't know how trac would 
handle our amount of data.


Simplifying, we would miss support and hosting.




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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-19 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nguyen Vu Hung, 12-11-2008 14:26:

  Sadly, we don't really have control over IssueZilla, so it's effectively
  impossible to change/enhance IZ's permission system.

 I have no idea about IssueZilla but is it an open source?
 If it is, Yes We Can Change.

 No, it is not.
 It's based on open source Bugzilla, but sadly it is not open source.

 Issuezilla is based on a very old version of Bugzilla, which lacks a lot
 of features and is much worse than the newer.

 Sadly collabnet provide us only this, since Issuezilla offers integration
 with other collabnet products.

 Well... I'm not sure, but I think Issuezilla has been discontinued, so we
 shouldn't expect news.
I am quite unhappy with what IssueZilla provides. Plus, it is a closed
source so we can't extend or change it.

trac[1] is widely used among opensource community. A Ticket in trac
is equivalent to an Issue in IZ. The workflow of QA process is quite
similar to IZ. Another salepoint of trac is that it supports wiki
format.

trac can also act as an svn. But a problem is that we must install
trac in the same server as svn because at  the moment, trac cannot
read remote svn.

trac also has it builtin wiki. I don't know if OOo wiki needs it( of
course, wiki format is a big salepoint of trac).


[1] http://trac.edgewall.org/



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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-12 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems
Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I find it very abnormal that the person who shoots an issue can't close it.

 abnormal is a somewhat strong word :), but yes.

 I suppose the ability to resolve/close issues is bound to the
 canconfirm privilege - which users don't initially have, instead they
 need to apply for it.
The life cycle of an issue is described here:
http://qa.openoffice.org/scdocs/issue_lifecycle.html
The one fires an issue knows his issue and he should be the owner of the it.
Therefore the permission to change the status of his issue.

 Sadly, we don't really have control over IssueZilla, so it's effectively
 impossible to change/enhance IZ's permission system.
I have no idea about IssueZilla but is it an open source?
If it is, Yes We Can Change.

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-12 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,

Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb:

Hi all,

I find it very abnormal that the person who shoots an issue can't close it.

Any comment?
  


This already works - see issue 96166
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96166
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_activity.cgi?id=96166

The user Thalion72 is my test user who has no special privilieges.



For the Spanish team, could you please take care of this issue and
closed it if corrected already?
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69425
  


The key point here is the question if it is corrected already. That 
means someone foirst needs to set the resouition (the submitter can do 
this). After this has been done, the issue can also be closed.


So - no need to change anything in Issue Tracker.

André

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-12 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:39 AM, André Schnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb:

 Hi all,

 I find it very abnormal that the person who shoots an issue can't close
 it.

 Any comment?


 This already works - see issue 96166
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=96166
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_activity.cgi?id=96166

 The user Thalion72 is my test user who has no special privilieges.
Does it working with existing issues?

This is one of my issue.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=95569
I am logging as vuhung but I cannot change the status of the issue.


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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-12 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,

Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb:


Does it working with existing issues?

This is one of my issue.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=95569
I am logging as vuhung but I cannot change the status of the issue.
  
Maybe something special with the status Started. I set the issue to 
fixe - can you test, if you are able to close it now?


Thanks,

André

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-12 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:01 AM, André Schnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb:

 Does it working with existing issues?

 This is one of my issue.
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=95569
 I am logging as vuhung but I cannot change the status of the issue.


 Maybe something special with the status Started. I set the issue to fixe -
 can you test, if you are able to close it now?
It works!



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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-12 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira

Nguyen Vu Hung, 12-11-2008 14:26:

 Sadly, we don't really have control over IssueZilla, so it's effectively
 impossible to change/enhance IZ's permission system.

I have no idea about IssueZilla but is it an open source?
If it is, Yes We Can Change.


No, it is not.
It's based on open source Bugzilla, but sadly it is not open source.

Issuezilla is based on a very old version of Bugzilla, which lacks a 
lot of features and is much worse than the newer.


Sadly collabnet provide us only this, since Issuezilla offers 
integration with other collabnet products.


Well... I'm not sure, but I think Issuezilla has been discontinued, so 
we shouldn't expect news.



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[dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-11 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
Hi all,

I find it very abnormal that the person who shoots an issue can't close it.

Any comment?


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Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:52 AM
Subject: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH
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Hi all,

For the Spanish team, could you please take care of this issue and
closed it if corrected already?
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69425

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [dev] Who can closes an issue[ was: Fwd: [l10n-dev] Spanish version : issue in OLH

2008-11-11 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany
 I find it very abnormal that the person who shoots an issue can't close it.

abnormal is a somewhat strong word :), but yes.

I suppose the ability to resolve/close issues is bound to the
canconfirm privilege - which users don't initially have, instead they
need to apply for it.

Sadly, we don't really have control over IssueZilla, so it's effectively
impossible to change/enhance IZ's permission system.

Ciao
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