Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 01:41:39AM -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: The OSM webserver will tell you the ten people with home locations closest to your home location. It would be useful to be able to get more than that, for the purpose of inviting people to attend mapping parties so they can become more effective and enthusiastic OSM contributors. If you move your home location to the location of the mapping party, you can get ten people, and if you move it around some more, you can get more than just those ten. So, being intolerant of boring, repetitive activities, I've written a program to find OSM users by their home location. You give it a lat,lon, and the radius in degrees of the circle in which you want to find people, and it repeatedly changes your home location until it's gotten everyone. Is this program a good thing or a bad thing? If it's a good thing, then great, I'll use it. If it's a bad thing, then how do we stop other people less cooperative than myself from writing the same program? There are two issues here: First, the issue of server overload etc. This could be solved simply by creating regular dumps of users with their home locations. Kind of like the planet dumps. Its easier for users of the data and easier on the database. The other issue is privacy. Yes, people have willingly added a home location, but it is different if you get bulk access to this. I don't see this as a big issue considering that the home location is voluntary and that much more information about users is available from the main body of data itself, namely not only a home location but all the places they have ever edited data. But some people may not like this. And while we are on the topic: I think home location is a bit limiting. How about giving users the option to add an (unlimited) number of locations, maybe not as a point but as a bounding box and tag them. And make it explicit that this information is public. Users can use this to mark their home (location=home) or workplace (location=work). Or they can express an interest in some area (interest=changes). Applications external to the core can read this information and do things with it, such as producing personalized feeds of changes. Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Hello, I guess it all depends on whether the users have accepted to make public their location. I am not sure whether the site allows to decide whether to make public or not your location. Personally, while I understand your enthusiasm, I would find annoying to receive a pre-formatted message asking me to do more for Open Street Map. I am more than happy to help people in the same area as me, and I actually did contact someone editing my hometown for that very purpose. But I would get twitchy if it was done a mass scale. This is a hobby project for me and I would consider your practice to be a bit like bullying. But that's just me. However, it varies from people to people and if they choose to make their location public I see no reason not to send them an email. I just wouldn't like it. The key thing is that you have to be careful about privacy in this case. Emilie Laffray Russ Nelson wrote: The OSM webserver will tell you the ten people with home locations closest to your home location. It would be useful to be able to get more than that, for the purpose of inviting people to attend mapping parties so they can become more effective and enthusiastic OSM contributors. If you move your home location to the location of the mapping party, you can get ten people, and if you move it around some more, you can get more than just those ten. So, being intolerant of boring, repetitive activities, I've written a program to find OSM users by their home location. You give it a lat,lon, and the radius in degrees of the circle in which you want to find people, and it repeatedly changes your home location until it's gotten everyone. Is this program a good thing or a bad thing? If it's a good thing, then great, I'll use it. If it's a bad thing, then how do we stop other people less cooperative than myself from writing the same program? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Russ Nelson wrote: So, being intolerant of boring, repetitive activities, I've written a program to find OSM users by their home location. You give it a lat,lon, and the radius in degrees of the circle in which you want to find people, and it repeatedly changes your home location until it's gotten everyone. I had heard rumours that such a program existed... Is this program a good thing or a bad thing? If it's a good thing, then great, I'll use it. If it's a bad thing, then how do we stop other people less cooperative than myself from writing the same program? Well it's certainly bad from a technological point of view, and from the point of view of the stress it potentially places on the site. The correct way to solve the problem is to enhance the facilities the site offers for visualising mappers locations. We may also of course want to strengthen the privacy controls we offer users at the same time. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Emilie Laffray wrote: I guess it all depends on whether the users have accepted to make public their location. I am not sure whether the site allows to decide whether to make public or not your location. Well first of all we don't require anybody to give their location at all, though some people might want to (as it becomes their default map view when logged in) but not make it public. Secondly, if it is set then only people that have made their data public are visible, but of course all new members get that state automatically and can't change it. Plus anybody wanting to edit the map now needs to make their edits public. However, it varies from people to people and if they choose to make their location public I see no reason not to send them an email. I just wouldn't like it. The key thing is that you have to be careful about privacy in this case. I would suggest that we (a) add a new reveal my location preference and then (b) add better features for browsing a map with users who have chosen to reveal their location marked. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
How about a set of contact preferences? It would be easy to say allow other OSMers to contact me for mapping parties etc. Perhaps for old users this could be set to on by default, but we send them a little message so that they can change it straight away if they want to. Something like the ITOWorld OSM Mapper would be great on the site (or at least linked to), so that people can see activity in their areas of interest http://www.itoworld.com/static/osmmapper - Original Message From: Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com To: Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 9:26:02 Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations Hello, I guess it all depends on whether the users have accepted to make public their location. I am not sure whether the site allows to decide whether to make public or not your location. Personally, while I understand your enthusiasm, I would find annoying to receive a pre-formatted message asking me to do more for Open Street Map. I am more than happy to help people in the same area as me, and I actually did contact someone editing my hometown for that very purpose. But I would get twitchy if it was done a mass scale. This is a hobby project for me and I would consider your practice to be a bit like bullying. But that's just me. However, it varies from people to people and if they choose to make their location public I see no reason not to send them an email. I just wouldn't like it. The key thing is that you have to be careful about privacy in this case. Emilie Laffray Russ Nelson wrote: The OSM webserver will tell you the ten people with home locations closest to your home location. It would be useful to be able to get more than that, for the purpose of inviting people to attend mapping parties so they can become more effective and enthusiastic OSM contributors. If you move your home location to the location of the mapping party, you can get ten people, and if you move it around some more, you can get more than just those ten. So, being intolerant of boring, repetitive activities, I've written a program to find OSM users by their home location. You give it a lat,lon, and the radius in degrees of the circle in which you want to find people, and it repeatedly changes your home location until it's gotten everyone. Is this program a good thing or a bad thing? If it's a good thing, then great, I'll use it. If it's a bad thing, then how do we stop other people less cooperative than myself from writing the same program? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Joe Richards wrote: How about a set of contact preferences? It would be easy to say allow other OSMers to contact me for mapping parties etc. Perhaps for old users this could be set to on by default, but we send them a little message so that they can change it straight away if they want to. That's basically unenforceable though - we have no way of knowing what a message is about when somebody sends it. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Russ Nelson wrote: The OSM webserver will tell you the ten people with home locations closest to your home location. It would be useful to be able to get Ticket #1425 requested to return more than 10 nearby mappers too. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1425 -- Lennard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Joe Richards wrote: How about a set of contact preferences? It would be easy to say allow other OSMers to contact me for mapping parties etc. Perhaps for old users this could be set to on by default, but we send them a little message so that they can change it straight away if they want to. That's basically unenforceable though - we have no way of knowing what a message is about when somebody sends it. if we want to keep the map on the users' pages showing the nearest other users to them, we might as well offer this data publicly. as russ said, it's one script and a bunch of server load away from being public anyway. in my opinion it's evil to contact users who haven't opted in to be contacted. it's a valid point of view that they implicitly opted in, but i don't think this is what most users intended when they added a home location - it's certainly not what i intended. i like jochen's idea of being able to additionally put in a bbox (or maybe several) that are areas of interest - please contact me about OSM activities in this area. we could then make the users' home locations private, but show a map of which users are interested in areas near your home location. of course, a simple notify me about OSM activites in my area checkbox could make it very easy to create a bbox centred on your home location. this could also start allowing 3rd party sites to easily offer a follow changes in my areas of interest feature, which has been often requested. cheers, matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
On May 31, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Matt Amos wrote: if we want to keep the map on the users' pages showing the nearest other users to them, we might as well offer this data publicly. as russ said, it's one script and a bunch of server load away from being public anyway. Right. If we want to protect people's privacy, then we should change the map on the users' pages. We shouldn't claim to protect people's privacy and then do so ineffectually. in my opinion it's evil to contact users who haven't opted in to be contacted. it's a valid point of view that they implicitly opted in, but i don't think this is what most users intended when they added a home location - it's certainly not what i intended. By this principle, nobody -- not any individual editor, not the OSMF -- can send email to any user. And yet, OSM has an email system, and people are encouraged to use it to ask users about their edits. i like jochen's idea of being able to additionally put in a bbox (or maybe several) that are areas of interest - please contact me about OSM activities in this area. we could then make the users' home locations private, +1 And then create a way to Send an email to a location which gets archived so that people who come along later can see earlier messages posted to that location. If we could get those bounding boxes (to protect privacy, without usernames), that could also let us find the places in which nobody (or few people) are interested. If there are holes in the interest level, then the map isn't going to be very good in those locations. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Coastline Rendering
Hey all. I'm trying to render coastlines in an app that I am building using OSM data (The rendering engine just draws shapes and I have to determine what shapes to draw). I've been able to learn a lot from the wiki about how coastlines are created (anti-clockwise and joined end on end), but still have an issue with deciding where there is sea and where there is land if zoomed into an area with no features. From what I saw, there is a binary file somewhere that maps out the land / sea areas that you can query if you find no coastline ways etc. Is this the best / only approach? If so, where could I find this file? Should I create one myself? Does it work well over the whole globe? Does anyone with coastline rendering experience have any suggestions on how best to solve this problem? I'd really appreciate any input as I want to render coastlines in real-time using the data pretty much as is (i.e. not convert to shape files etc). This is for a client side application using real-time rendering, so I am looking for the fastest approach. Regards, Brendan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On May 31, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Matt Amos wrote: if we want to keep the map on the users' pages showing the nearest other users to them, we might as well offer this data publicly. as russ said, it's one script and a bunch of server load away from being public anyway. Right. If we want to protect people's privacy, then we should change the map on the users' pages. We shouldn't claim to protect people's privacy and then do so ineffectually. +1 - it probably doesn't matter so much in urban areas, where the inaccuracy of the home location is much greater than the distance between houses. in rural areas it's more of an issue... in my opinion it's evil to contact users who haven't opted in to be contacted. it's a valid point of view that they implicitly opted in, but i don't think this is what most users intended when they added a home location - it's certainly not what i intended. By this principle, nobody -- not any individual editor, not the OSMF -- can send email to any user. And yet, OSM has an email system, and people are encouraged to use it to ask users about their edits. sorry - i should have restricted my statement to unsolicited mass mails (i.e: spam) by other users. clearly the OSMF needs to be able to contact users in an official capacity (e.g: questionable edits, license changes, etc...), and OSM users may want to directly contact eachother to resolve similar issues on a less official level. it's difficult to enforce technically, but, in my opinion, we should be strongly discouraging mass sending of unsolicited messages. And then create a way to Send an email to a location which gets archived so that people who come along later can see earlier messages posted to that location. this is an interesting idea - what would you use it for? there's been lots of talk in the past about incorporating OSB into the main OSM site, which would have a similar set of features. If we could get those bounding boxes (to protect privacy, without usernames), that could also let us find the places in which nobody (or few people) are interested. If there are holes in the interest level, then the map isn't going to be very good in those locations. even with usernames - i think it's acceptable to say that a declaration of interest in an area is public knowledge. a map overlay shading by username would be very interesting/pretty/useful (delete as appropriate). cheers, matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Max size of changeset with josm (in kb)
Hi, I already got part of the answer - 50,000 (things; nodes, lines, areas -total) so now i want to know, what approx size (in mb, kb) is safe? I loaded a changeset of 358 kb and it seemed happy. Would 1 meg be too much? I know that there is a max geographical download area built in, (it's say's download area OK, size probably acceptable by server) but is there a time out or an exact max file size to download? (a squak level) (i know that i download a large area when im tracing from my GPS Tracks. (Victoria is about 8 megs) and so it takes a little time to load, so i dont load that big area any more, i just open that old Victoria file, then zoom to the area im working in, then get the latest updates for that small area. Also, is there an easy way i can chop the .osm file into 4 or 16 happy geographical area chunks? Thus, smaller file sizes to deal with. Thanks, Sam ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
On 31 May 2009, at 06:41, Russ Nelson wrote: The OSM webserver will tell you the ten people with home locations closest to your home location. It would be useful to be able to get more than that, for the purpose of inviting people to attend mapping parties so they can become more effective and enthusiastic OSM contributors. If you move your home location to the location of the mapping party, you can get ten people, and if you move it around some more, you can get more than just those ten. Sounds evil... but less evil than your current method of spamming everyone who has edited something nearby. -- Chris Jones, SUCS Admin http://sucs.org ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql problems
Hi Running osm2pgsql and running into problems. Trying to load all of planet.osm. From the osm2pgsql log, it appears that after it has finished loading all nodes, the process errors without notice. Looking in the postgresql log, at the time the log ends, there are these messages... 2009-05-29 15:14:34 PDT ERROR: unexpected EOF on client connection 2009-05-29 15:14:34 PDT CONTEXT: COPY planet_osm_line, line 1 2009-05-29 15:14:34 PDT STATEMENT: COPY planet_osm_line (osm_id,access,addr:flats,addr:housenumber,addr:interpolation,admin_level,aerialway,aeroway,amenity,area,barrier,bicycle,bridge,boundary,building,construction,cutting,disused,embankment,foot,highway,historic,horse,junction,landuse,layer,learning,leisure,lock,man_made,military,motorcar,name,name:en,name:ar,natural,oneway,power,power_source,place,railway,ref,religion,residence,route,service,sport,tourism,tracktype,tunnel,waterway,width,wood,z_order,way_area,way) FROM STDIN 2009-05-29 15:14:34 PDT ERROR: unexpected EOF on client connection ..followed by similar messages for the other tables. Anyone have any advice on how resolve/debug this problem. Thanks Mikel ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Alternative to lan/lon / zoomable search grid
. Hi, I've developed a polar search grid where the index can also be an intelligent postal code, see google mapplets http://www.volksnav.com/mapplet www.volksnav.com/mapplet. During a presentation to Google Zurich they've suggested to develop such tools also for OSM. Can anybody help me on that? Which environment is needed? Thank you in advance, Henry Koehler / VolksNav ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Tom Hughes schrieb: I would suggest that we (a) add a new reveal my location preference and then (b) add better features for browsing a map with users who have chosen to reveal their location marked +1 A better tool would be very fine. As the 10 persons are bit very much - especially in larger cities like Munich and under concern of the increasing number of people involved in OSM/mapping. Very welcome would be a map based tool to see who is mapping in a certain area. You can achieve this by changing your location. But this trick is not the best way IMHO. Best regards, Michael. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Matt Amos wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On May 31, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Matt Amos wrote: if we want to keep the map on the users' pages showing the nearest other users to them, we might as well offer this data publicly. as russ said, it's one script and a bunch of server load away from being public anyway. Right. If we want to protect people's privacy, then we should change the map on the users' pages. We shouldn't claim to protect people's privacy and then do so ineffectually. +1 - it probably doesn't matter so much in urban areas, where the inaccuracy of the home location is much greater than the distance between houses. in rural areas it's more of an issue... Well, my neighborhood happens to be surprisingly well mapped for TIGER, about the only obstacle for someone finding me is that it doesn't include elevation data, and I live in a nonoplex (think duplex, but 9 instead of 2). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Tom Hughes wrote: Emilie Laffray wrote: I guess it all depends on whether the users have accepted to make public their location. I am not sure whether the site allows to decide whether to make public or not your location. Well first of all we don't require anybody to give their location at all, though some people might want to (as it becomes their default map view when logged in) but not make it public. This feature alone makes me wish there was a remember me checkbox, since my laptop's always with me and nobody else uses it. I would suggest that we (a) add a new reveal my location preference and then (b) add better features for browsing a map with users who have chosen to reveal their location marked. I'm in favor. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] finding OSM users by their home locations
Matt Amos wrote: in my opinion it's evil to contact users who haven't opted in to be contacted. it's a valid point of view that they implicitly opted in, but i don't think this is what most users intended when they added a home location - it's certainly not what i intended. I'm not sure it's a valid point of view beyond the current assumption: You want to hear from other OSM users trying to contact you, without necessarily revealing contact information. It's generally OK to assume people want to hear from other humans, but not OK to assume they want automated or bulk messages without them opting in first. I think trying to push beyond that might result in folks reporting OSM messages as spam, which is an annoying and sometimes expensive problem to fix. Err on the conservative side of sending things en masse or automatically unless it's been specifically requested. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis error read-xml (NullPointerException)
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 17:42:02 +1000, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com
wrote:
Line 43 of RelationMemberWriter above deals with the relation member
role. Your osm file above is missing all of the role attributes on
relation members which would cause this problem to occur.
Perhaps xapi doesn't include the role attribute if it is empty ... I
thought it was mandatory ...
So maybe we should add a
if (member.getRole() == null) {
throw new IllegalArgumentException(no role for reltion-member
+ member.getElementID() + of relation + relation.getID());
}
to give better error-messages in this case.
or much better, add this to
RelationMenber:setRole(final String aRole)
so no illegal members can ever be created.
(and of cause call the setters from the constructor
as is good practice to make subclassing easier.)
Yep, I'd prefer to add it here so that it's not possible to create an
invalid member. I haven't done null checks anywhere so far due to the
amount of extra code it requires, but it sounds like it would be a good
idea, at least on the data classes.
Brett
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Re: [OSM-dev] JSON/GeoJSON output format for 0.6 api
Hi, Tels wrote: Well, one could fetch the data at z17, see it is below some $ARBITRARY_THRESHOLD, zoom out to z16m, fetch again, and if still below $THRESHOLD, repeat it until either there is too much data (display message) or the user-requested zoomlevel was reached. I think the ti...@home folks already keep a database that says how complex each level-12 tile is. So if we were not so busy telling them how they're technologically backwards and how their whole project is rubbish, they might just give us that. I also suspect that the size of a PNG tile would bear a halfway linear relationship to the amount of data on that tile, so a HEAD request against the tile server could work just as well. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [Tilesathome] I'd like a list of the file size of all z12 tilesets
2009/5/21 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I want to play with producing a heat map of the globe where heat is determined by the relative size of t...@h tilesets at z12. I could also use the tiles themselves, but I suppose the tilesets will be a better indicator of complexity. But whatever's easy. Could someone with access to the t...@h servers pretty please generate this for me? :) 20:51 spaetz http://tah.openstreetmap.org/media/filesizes.bz2 20:52 spaetz result of ls --file-type -l -R filesizes 20:52 spaetz takes some grepping, and cutting to get the raw sizes, but the info is in there. I converted it to something better using a hacky ad-hoc script (attached): http://u.nix.is/~avar/tile-sizes.txt.bz2 I went ahead and created a renderer so it now makes a heat map, it's under applications/rendering/tah-heatmap in svn: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/15441 Example output here: http://u.nix.is/~avar/osm-heatmap.png And how to run it: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/rendering/tah-heatmap/README Ideally this map would be mostly red around large capital areas and blue along most of the coastline and other sparsely mapped areas. But the heatmap() function I ripped from ViewCVS takes values between 0 and 1 (which I normalize to with $tile_size/$max_tile_size) and since most tiles fall towards the lower end of the size spectrum the map ends up being mostly blue. I've been trying to find an algorithm which would intelligently distribute these values so I'd get the blue/yellow/green/red colors which compose the canonical heat map, but such numeric crunching isn't my strongest side. Help would be appreciated. These are the min/max/average/median t...@h tile sizes, for reference: Min = 5472 Max = 38211510 Average = 551490 Median = 227879 Number of tiles = 937254 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [Tilesathome] I'd like a list of the file size of all z12 tilesets
2009/5/31 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: 2009/5/21 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I want to play with producing a heat map of the globe where heat is determined by the relative size of t...@h tilesets at z12. I could also use the tiles themselves, but I suppose the tilesets will be a better indicator of complexity. But whatever's easy. Could someone with access to the t...@h servers pretty please generate this for me? :) 20:51 spaetz http://tah.openstreetmap.org/media/filesizes.bz2 20:52 spaetz result of ls --file-type -l -R filesizes 20:52 spaetz takes some grepping, and cutting to get the raw sizes, but the info is in there. I converted it to something better using a hacky ad-hoc script (attached): http://u.nix.is/~avar/tile-sizes.txt.bz2 I went ahead and created a renderer so it now makes a heat map, it's under applications/rendering/tah-heatmap in svn: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/15441 Example output here: http://u.nix.is/~avar/osm-heatmap.png Using 32 times the median as the maximum value makes things somewhat better: http://u.nix.is/~avar/osm-heatmap-black-2.png ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Only method post is supported on this URI
2009/5/31 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: But I did see what was wrong: the upload URL has changed from http://www.openstreetmap.com/api to http://api.openstreetmap.org/api (notice the www-api and com-org). I don't know about .com, but http://www.openstreetmap.org/api works fine here. Rolf ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Only method post is supported on this URI
On 31 May 2009, at 14:04, Maarten Deen wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: I spent some time adding and changing stuff in JOSM, but when uploading I get the message Only method post is supported on this URI. This happens to me with the josm-latest (and the version from 21-05-2009). What is this error, what is going wrong? I don't know either, but deleting my 'preferences' file got uploading to work again. Thanks, but that made it worse initially. It just spat out errors trying to upload. But I did see what was wrong: the upload URL has changed from http://www.openstreetmap.com/api to http://api.openstreetmap.org/api (notice the www-api and com-org). Why have you been using www.openstreetmap.com? This has never been the default in JOSM, as far as I'm aware. You need to be using either http://www.openstreetmap.org/api or http://api.openstreetmap.org/api for it to work now that all other domains (including osm.org and openstreetmap.com) redirect to www.openstreetmap.org. Maybe we need to add this to http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPageSource ? Shaun I do remeber some talk about splitting the general www. URL, but I failed to tie this to changing the URL in JOSM. FWIW for others who have the same problem. Regards, Maarten ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Only method post is supported on this URI
Shaun McDonald wrote: On 31 May 2009, at 14:04, Maarten Deen wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: Maarten Deen writes: I spent some time adding and changing stuff in JOSM, but when uploading I get the message Only method post is supported on this URI. This happens to me with the josm-latest (and the version from 21-05-2009). What is this error, what is going wrong? I don't know either, but deleting my 'preferences' file got uploading to work again. Thanks, but that made it worse initially. It just spat out errors trying to upload. But I did see what was wrong: the upload URL has changed from http://www.openstreetmap.com/api to http://api.openstreetmap.org/api (notice the www-api and com-org). Why have you been using www.openstreetmap.com? This has never been the default in JOSM, as far as I'm aware. Probably because in the olden days there were no default settings and this was one of the URLs (_the_ URL?) to be used. Or I played around with it in the past and never knew it should be .org, I don't know. It always worked and now all of a sudden it doesn't. You need to be using either http://www.openstreetmap.org/api or http://api.openstreetmap.org/api for it to work now that all other domains (including osm.org and openstreetmap.com) redirect to www.openstreetmap.org. Maybe we need to add this to http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPageSource ? I saw that JOSM now fills the .org address as default, but if in the future the API URL changes than it would be a helpful addition. And in the OSM wiki too. Regards, Maarten ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
