Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci

2012-08-13 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Paul Norman wrote:

  Although the project is not yet completely over, I would already 
  like to thank everyone involved for the great opportunity and the 
  kind support I received. Participating in GSoC with OSM was a lot of 
  fun - thanks!
 
 Speaking for myself, it's been good to see a GSoC project with regular
 communication with the community with results that are likely to be used.

Likely? I've already been using the improved Vespucci!

cheers,
Derick

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Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci

2012-08-13 Thread Jo
2012/8/13 Derick Rethans o...@derickrethans.nl

 On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Paul Norman wrote:

   Although the project is not yet completely over, I would already
   like to thank everyone involved for the great opportunity and the
   kind support I received. Participating in GSoC with OSM was a lot of
   fun - thanks!
 
  Speaking for myself, it's been good to see a GSoC project with regular
  communication with the community with results that are likely to be used.

 Likely? I've already been using the improved Vespucci!


I've been testing it myself and usability has improved tremendously.

On my wishlist:

* Enhance imagery tiles like JOSM does, instead of showing there is no
imagery at relatively high zoom (the amount of zoom needed to do useful
editing on a 7 screen).
* support for relations

I wish I were capable enough to help with the coding myself.

Cheers,

Polyglot
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Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci

2012-08-13 Thread Marcus Wolschon
I think the undo item is still showing in the ActionBar even when nothing
is to be undone.
This prevents the more important GPS item from showing prominently.
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[OSM-dev] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers

2012-08-13 Thread Katie Filbert
Would OSM folks be interested in being part of a devroom at FOSDEM?  It
could make sense to partner with the Wikimedia folks?

Who typically handles stuff like this?  I've not been to FOSDEM yet but
probably will go this year.

Cheers,
Katie

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Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main
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It would be awesome if we could put together a devroom at FOSDEM.

Over the last couple of years, FOSDEM has become my favorite
conference. The ethos of the conference is fantastic - totally
grassroots, transparent, and open. It draws an unbelievable crowd. The
technical breadth and depth of the talks is generally impressive. And
the Wikimedia/Mediawiki-related talks pack the rooms - at least they
did the last couple of years. We should have a much bigger presence at
this event - from my perspective, it seems like it is a fantastic
learning, community building, and recruiting opportunity - perhaps
even more so than most of the other conferences at which we have a
presence.

If folks think this would be something cool to do, it might also be
worth teaming with some other similarly-minded orgs with some overlap
- like Mozilla, Creative Commons, OLPC, CiviCRM, etc. From the
invitation for proposals, it sounds like this would increase our odds
at securing a devroom, it would certainly help us further
cross-pollinate, and ultimately strengthen the broader open source
community.

What do you all think?

Arthur

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl
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 Siebrand


  Original Message 
 Subject: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track
speakers
 From:Tias Guns t...@fosdem.org
 Date:Sun, August 12, 2012 14:40
 To:  Fosdem Announce fos...@lists.fosdem.org
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  help spread the word and make FOSDEM awesome 


 FOSDEM is a non-commercial event offering open source communities a
 place to meet, share ideas and collaborate. It is renowned for being
 highly developer-oriented and brings together 5000+ geeks from all over
 the world. FOSDEM will take place in Brussels, Belgium on the 2nd and
 3rd of February 2013.

 We invite proposals for *devrooms* and *main track talks*:


 *Main Track Talks*
 The main tracks host high-quality seminars for a broad and technical
 audience. Every track is organized around a theme (security, kernel,
 collaboration, ...). They are held in the two biggest auditoria and last
 50 minutes. Each of the talks is given by a speaker who gets their
 travel and accommodation costs reimbursed.

 To apply for a FOSDEM Main Track talk, visit
 https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_main_speakers.html

 To suggest a main track speaker that we should invite, mail
 prog...@fosdem.org


 *Devrooms*
 A devroom is a 'developer room' in which open source communities can
 organize their own schedule, made of presentations, brainstorming and
 hacking sessions. Our goal is to stimulate developer collaboration and
 cross-pollination between projects.

 Each year we receive more requests than we can host. To better achieve
 our goals, preference will be given to *proposals involving multiple,
 collaborating projects*. Projects with similar goals/domains that make
 separate requests will be asked to co-organize a devroom under their
 common theme.

 To propose organizing a devroom, visit
 https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_devrooms.html

 Note! Linux distributions should apply to the dedicated distribution
 mini-conference:
 https://fosdem.org/2013/distrominiconf.html


 *Key Dates*
 - 1 October: deadline for devroom proposals
 - mid October: devroom announcements
 - 1 November: deadline main track proposals
 - mid November: main track announcements
 - 2 and 3 February: FOSDEM 2013



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Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers

2012-08-13 Thread Jo
I'm adding talk-be to this discussion.

I'm living 30km from Brussels, so I can easily come to help with a stand or
a dev room. Last year I helped out at the Openstreetmap stand and there was
definitely an interest in the project.

Do you see a stand in a dev room as some sort of mapping party or an actual
effort to create/discuss code of editors/renderers/PostGIS and the like?

Polyglot

2012/8/13 Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com

 Would OSM folks be interested in being part of a devroom at FOSDEM?  It
 could make sense to partner with the Wikimedia folks?

 Who typically handles stuff like this?  I've not been to FOSDEM yet but
 probably will go this year.

 Cheers,
 Katie

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 From: Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org
 Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and
 main track speakers
 To: Siebrand mazel...@xs4all.nl, Wikimedia developers 
 wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Cc: mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org


 It would be awesome if we could put together a devroom at FOSDEM.

 Over the last couple of years, FOSDEM has become my favorite
 conference. The ethos of the conference is fantastic - totally
 grassroots, transparent, and open. It draws an unbelievable crowd. The
 technical breadth and depth of the talks is generally impressive. And
 the Wikimedia/Mediawiki-related talks pack the rooms - at least they
 did the last couple of years. We should have a much bigger presence at
 this event - from my perspective, it seems like it is a fantastic
 learning, community building, and recruiting opportunity - perhaps
 even more so than most of the other conferences at which we have a
 presence.

 If folks think this would be something cool to do, it might also be
 worth teaming with some other similarly-minded orgs with some overlap
 - like Mozilla, Creative Commons, OLPC, CiviCRM, etc. From the
 invitation for proposals, it sounds like this would increase our odds
 at securing a devroom, it would certainly help us further
 cross-pollinate, and ultimately strengthen the broader open source
 community.

 What do you all think?

 Arthur

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl
 wrote:
  Forwarded from fos...@lists.fosdem.org. Subscribe at
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  Siebrand
 
 
   Original Message
 
  Subject: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track
 speakers
  From:Tias Guns t...@fosdem.org
  Date:Sun, August 12, 2012 14:40
  To:  Fosdem Announce fos...@lists.fosdem.org
 
 --
 
   help spread the word and make FOSDEM awesome 
 
 
  FOSDEM is a non-commercial event offering open source communities a
  place to meet, share ideas and collaborate. It is renowned for being
  highly developer-oriented and brings together 5000+ geeks from all over
  the world. FOSDEM will take place in Brussels, Belgium on the 2nd and
  3rd of February 2013.
 
  We invite proposals for *devrooms* and *main track talks*:
 
 
  *Main Track Talks*
  The main tracks host high-quality seminars for a broad and technical
  audience. Every track is organized around a theme (security, kernel,
  collaboration, ...). They are held in the two biggest auditoria and last
  50 minutes. Each of the talks is given by a speaker who gets their
  travel and accommodation costs reimbursed.
 
  To apply for a FOSDEM Main Track talk, visit
  https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_main_speakers.html
 
  To suggest a main track speaker that we should invite, mail
  prog...@fosdem.org
 
 
  *Devrooms*
  A devroom is a 'developer room' in which open source communities can
  organize their own schedule, made of presentations, brainstorming and
  hacking sessions. Our goal is to stimulate developer collaboration and
  cross-pollination between projects.
 
  Each year we receive more requests than we can host. To better achieve
  our goals, preference will be given to *proposals involving multiple,
  collaborating projects*. Projects with similar goals/domains that make
  separate requests will be asked to co-organize a devroom under their
  common theme.
 
  To propose organizing a devroom, visit
  https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_devrooms.html
 
  Note! Linux distributions should apply to the dedicated distribution
  mini-conference:
  https://fosdem.org/2013/distrominiconf.html
 
 
  *Key Dates*
  - 1 October: deadline for devroom proposals
  - mid October: devroom announcements
  - 1 November: deadline main track proposals
  - mid November: main track announcements
  - 2 and 3 February: FOSDEM 2013
 
 
 
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Re: [OSM-dev] (Multi)Polygon handling

2012-08-13 Thread Peter Körner

Hi

Am 13.07.2012 14:41, schrieb nimix:

[1] https://github.com/nimix/osm_conv_tests


good start but I'd remove the .wkb files in favor of the wkt ones. You 
shouldn't have two versions of the expected output or you will get cases 
where the WKB and WKT differs. And it's unclear what the real expected 
result is.


Peter


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Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci

2012-08-13 Thread andrewg_oz
Hi Jan,

First of all, well done for all the work you've put into Vespucci. It's 
been a long time since I've done anything with Vespucci (or OSM in general, 
really) and you've certainly added quite a few nice things (and squished 
some bugs along the way).

Now that the OSM license change redaction has passed, there's quite a bit 
of field work to do - retrace roads and capture names for starters.

I've just installed a very recent Vespucci build of yours (downloaded 
today) and tried it out. It looks very nice and I like the action bar 
support, but I did note some issues:

1. The GPS location isn't showing up.
2. The tag editor preset system does not check for pre-existing key/value 
pairs, so you can end up with duplicates.

Also, while I like the new X to delete key/values in the tag editor, it has 
exacerbated the lack of space for the actual editable fields to the point 
where they're getting a bit difficult to use. I'm beginning to think that 
the tag editor needs a bit of a re-work to behave in a more Android way. 
I'll need to think about it but perhaps get rid of the static Key and 
Value text items and change each line so that it has the X, and a 
clickable key:value text that pops up a new editor (maybe a whole new 
activity) that just edits that pair. Where there is currently two blank 
fields would change to an Add button. If I have time I'll try something 
myself.

In any case, I'm looking forward to giving the new Vespucci a proper field 
test! Thanks again for your work.
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Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci

2012-08-13 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:58 PM, andrewg_oz andrew.greg...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Jan,

 First of all, well done for all the work you've put into Vespucci. It's
 been a long time since I've done anything with Vespucci (or OSM in general,
 really) and you've certainly added quite a few nice things (and squished
 some bugs along the way).

 Now that the OSM license change redaction has passed, there's quite a bit
 of field work to do - retrace roads and capture names for starters.

 I've just installed a very recent Vespucci build of yours (downloaded
 today) and tried it out. It looks very nice and I like the action bar
 support, but I did note some issues:

 1. The GPS location isn't showing up.


That's the issue I raised. It's in the overflow menu because the undo arrow
is showing, even though there's nothing to undo.


 2. The tag editor preset system does not check for pre-existing key/value
 pairs, so you can end up with duplicates.


This is allowed in the schema even as some editors are too limited to
support it.
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Re: [OSM-dev] (Multi)Polygon handling

2012-08-13 Thread nimix

Peter Körner wrote
 
 
 good start but I'd remove the .wkb files in favor of the wkt ones. You 
 shouldn't have two versions of the expected output or you will get cases 
 where the WKB and WKT differs. And it's unclear what the real expected 
 result is.
 

At the moment the .wkt and the .wkb files contain exactly the same geometry
so you can either compare against the .wkb or the .wkt file. They may only
get out of sync when people change the expected result and forget to change
both files, but I think this is a rare case that we can then solve from
commit history.



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[OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci

2012-08-13 Thread Séverin MENARD
Hi,

I follow with interest the improvements currently made on Vespucci. I did
not have yet the opportunity to test it (see second part of my email) but
will happen soon. I would like to know what are for you be the still
missing functions in Vespucci in comparison with a classic GPS
devices+paper forms+Walking paper.
On the humanitarian and development field, we may use specific presets; I
think I read Vespucci is now able to import specific ones, but is there
some limitation to this?

Otherwise (this is the second part I announced), which devices fit well
with Vespucci among cheap but nonetheless GPS accurate ones? So far, we
have tested on the field low profile devices like the Sony Ericsson Xperia
X10 mini (only a 2.6 screen) or Samsung 8600.

Sincerely,

Severin MENARD
Current HOT Acting Project Director
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