Re: [OSM-dev] API: version number of newly created objects.
2009/4/28 Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com Hi, I see in the api doc: Version numbers will most of the time begin at *1* and increase by *1*every time an element is changed but this behaviour is not guaranteed and should not be relied upon I understand that phrase as I cannot assume that a newly created object will be at version 1. As a creation PUT do not return the version number (AFAIK), does that mean that we are suppose to do a GET on the newly created object to get the version number? If you do a diff upload ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6#Diff_upload:_POST_.2Fapi.2F0.6.2Fchangeset.2F.23id.2Fupload) you will get the version number back in the response and if you update an existing individual object you will get the version number in the response, but, as you say, as documented, creating an individual object won't return the version... I don't know for sure, but, I'd hope that the version number starting at 1 bit is guaranteed even if the increase by 1 isn't... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent
2009/4/18 Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:23:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: After a few upload problems, a new torrent is available. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Bittorrent Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a tracker other than The Pirate Bay? Selfish and wrong. It may even help TPB if more high profile projects used their tracker for (legal) distribution. In terms of PR it could also be seen how an “open” data project abandoned an effective method of distributing open data. If TPB’s appeal fails, it sets a bad precedent for any other tracker out there. TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time... As such, it's not very effective for me, or all the other people in the world who find it blocked for them, and there are quite a lot... This is thanks to the negative PR that TPB already has... They've never helped themselves in this regard... If anything, TPB has done bad PR for BitTorrent, an open protocol and open source implementation developed for the efficient distribution of large datasets and now in common perception, a tool to enable one to easily obtain copyrighted materials... BitTorrent can be an effective method of distributing open data and setting up a tracker for a project isn't a massive job, other open projects may well be willing to share a tracker, which reduces that overhead... The way that BitTorrent works, you don't need to use the biggest, most popular tracker, you just need to have all the people wanting to share the file being able to connect to the same one/s... So anyway, in short, I agree with Paul, both from the PR point of view and from the point of view that hosting it on TPB make it useless to me... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] FW: using OpenStreetMap api
2009/4/15 Mohamad Ali mohamad@intellitrac.com.au I tried to contact 'legal-t...@openstreetmap.org' , no body reply.. It was only 10 hrs ago, be patient... :) Can I ask you a question , because I would like to be sure that I can use openstreetmap for commercial use, I would like to put openstreetmap on my website and people will access my site every day, Of course I will put the credits and licenses in my JavaScript code and link to openstreetmap in my website user interface,.. Is that enough or should I contact 'legal-talk'? Commercial use or the data and map tiles in their unmodified forms is allowed as long as you provide the required attribution... Anyone can use the data, which is the entire point of having an Open streetmap :) If you were to modify the data or tiles and then publish the results of those modifications I believe it can get more complex, so you'd need to check the license and perhaps discuss the issue on the legal-talk list if you needed to do that... If you are only looking to provide a slippy map view, and not use the data directly, you should check this page too which is specifically about using the tiles produced by the mapnik based tile server run by/for the project... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy The key bits that would be potentially relevant in your situation are 1) that you shouldn't bulk download tiles, i.e. don't download all the tiles in an area to host directly on your own server 2) the point on heavy users, which might not be an issue now, but, if your site is, or becomes, busy then you should look into either setting up your own local tile rendering instance, or, look at commercial providers of rendered tiles such that you are not overloading the project public tile server... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] openstreetmap.org as target for spamming?
2009/4/9 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com I'm using recaptcha in my Mediawiki installation too. Can recommend it. -S. 2009/4/9 Łukasz Jernaś deej...@srem.org On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: Maye someone with Rails skills could quickly grab an existing captcha solution and add it to http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/sites/rails_port/app/controllers/user_controller.rb ? All the ones I have seen so far appear to be manually done so I don't think a Captcha will help. OK. In this case it does look like they were automated (there are at least 300 or so that I have killed) so a captcha might help. Maybe http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ could help? Surely it would be more fitting to have some form of 'point to a place on a slippy map' type test wouldn't it? :) d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key
2009/4/3 Pierre-André Jacquod pjacq...@alumni.ethz.ch Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually I would map the building (closed way) and 2 nodes within at their actual position for postbox and atm, or is it a combined postbox and atm? exactly one above the other in the wall, like: -- | ATM | |- | postbox | --- regards Then shouldn't that be two nodes? with the atm one having a layer=1 tag? Similar to having a bar above a restaurant above a bank at the same position but on different floors... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tiling the Planet and Missing Nodes
2009/3/28 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de From my last run, way id 4043882 references node 365476284 that is not present in the dump. This is with planet version 090325. Grep reveals that 365476284 is only present in an nd tag as part of the ref= statement. :-( My question is: what is the right interpretation of a missing node? Should I simply pretend the node reference does not exist (e.g. delete the vertex from the way)? The idea with that situation is for ways: - Download the way; and just reupload it, then it will be solved in the next run (because the way download hides invisible nodes) This only fixes the problem of ways with nodes that shouldn't be there which I don't believe is always the case... In most cases, nodes that should be in a way have somehow become deleted, but, not from the way itself... The typically accepted 'fix' for these is to modify the way in Potlatch, which, as a byproduct of it's method of rewriting all related objects, restores the nodes to their prior undeleted state... To blindly rewrite these damaged ways removing the problem nodes would hide the problem but could leave the way itself inaccurate... These ways should be manually inspected to work out what the actual problem is and to repair it, or at the very least, a lot more logic needs to be used in any automated process... For relations: - Download the relation; remove all nodes/ways/relations that you know that don't exist. Reupload it; will you get a 200; job well done ;) Again, this isn't so simple... doing this would remove some errors (deleted objects in a relation) and introduce new ones (relations that are missing critical components or otherwise don't make sense)... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] planet.openstreetmap.org breakage
2009/3/19 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Grant Slater wrote: Patched planet files will become available shortly, but they too take time to generate. Are you saying you are going to regenerate all previous planet files? Isn't that a bit waste of resources? A significant use of resources, yes, but, a waste? Probably not... As copyright data has been found, it needs to be removed from distribution, for the API, the current version and history versions would need to be removed then it would be clean, but for the planet files, either a) all planet and patch files containing this data would need to be removed from distribution or b) past planet files would need to be modified to just remove this bad data... I personally feel that with all the cool things people have done with historical planet data value is demonstrated in having these historical planet files, so, where possible, it would be good to clean them, and the patch files, up rather than remove all the affected planet and patch files for ever... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Improvement of tile rendering
2009/3/18 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de Jon Burgess wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 00:48 +0100, Stefan de Konink wrote: Dane Springmeyer wrote: I should stress though that Mod_tile is the optimal solution for tile rendering for most OSM related purposes. I wonder if an Apache module is able to provide caching. I doubt it can, thus requires more bandwidth right? Yes it does caching. What make you think it can not? I am talking about client side caching. So a client says... hey I have an expire thingie or i have an e-tag should I refetch it? Here are the headers for a request and response for a single tile... GET /16/54640/26982.png HTTP/1.1 Host: b.tile.openstreetmap.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 Firefox/3.0.7 Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en,en-gb;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive Referer: http://www.informationfreeway.org/ HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:54:03 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) Etag: b3431afd380b6449ac17e631eef4536d Content-Length: 5338 Cache-Control: max-age=8987 Expires: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:23:50 GMT Keep-Alive: timeout=3, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: image/png So, it returns an Etag header, a cache-control header giving an approx 2.5hr max-age and an Expires header also giving the same 2.5hr age... Looks good to me :) d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis crashing due to lack of memory
2009/2/26 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com Hi, I have been trying to play with the planet file and extract information out of it. However, it crashed on me with an out of memory memory regarding heap space. I used the following command: osmosis --read-xml file=planet-090218.osm enableDateParsing=no --way-key-value keyValueList=highway.motorway,highway.motorway_link,highway.trunk,highway.trunk_link,highway.primary,highway.primary_link,highway.secondary,highway.tertiary,highway.unclassified,highway.road,highway.residential,highway.living_street,highway.service,highway.track,highway.pedestrian,highway.bus_guideway,highway.path,highway.cycleway,highway.footway,highway.bridleway,highway.byway,highway.steps,highway.toll_booth,highway.ford,cycleway.lane,cycleway.track,cycleway.opposite_lane,opposite_track,cycleway.opposite,tracktype.grade1,tracktype.grade2,tracktype.grade3,tracktype.grade4,tracktype.grade5,waterway.stream,waterway.river,waterway.riverbank,waterway.canal,waterway.dock,waterway.weir,waterway.dam --used-node --migrate --write-xml-0.6 file=E:\world\dump\roads\roads.osm I would love to avoid as much as possible to break the planet into bounding boxes, for the sake of simplicity initially. Maybe it is unrealistic but I would like to keep it that way. In osmosis.bat is the following line... REM # JAVACMD_OPTIONS - The options to append to the java command, typically used to modify jvm settings such as max memory. so, either modify osmosis.bat or, create a new file called osmosis.bat in the all users profile directory or your profile directory, to include a 'set JAVACMD_OPTIONS = -Xmx1024M' line (to set maximum memory usage to 1GB, if you have enough RAM)... I am using the planet file uncompressed with osmosis 0.30. Is there something I can do? Spending hours and then seeing your task crashing is pretty disheartening. Also, is there a way to use multicore efficiently? I have looked at the pages but I didn't see any convincing number. I was thinking of maybe of getting the file to be read in one drive and writing to the other one, therefore avoiding the IO hit of reading and writing at the same time on the same drive. Using a gzipped planet input and gzipped output may be quicker if your facing an IO bottleneck... the compression and decompression will use more CPU, but, significantly reduce the IO... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Mapnik layer fontset fonts
Hi Folks, Does anyone have a list of fonts (or other font config info) used on the tile server to produce the mapnik layer? I ask as I'm working on getting a multilayer/multilanguage (Asia centric) slippy map set up and I'm seeing characters disappearing at certain font sizes that render fine on the normal mapnik layer... The fontset I'm using contains the following as I'm concentrating on CJK at the moment... Font face_name=DejaVu Sans Book / Font face_name=AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni Regular / Font face_name=AR PL ZenKai Uni Medium / Font face_name=Sazanami Mincho Regular / Font face_name=Sazanami Gothic Regular / Font face_name=Baekmuk Dotum Regular / Font face_name=unifont Medium / If you want to have a look, the map is at http://osm.newportcoastsoftware.com the language layers can be selected in the normal way by clicking the plus at the right... The world has been rendered without captions to zoom level 5, and all caption layers have been also rendered to zoom level 5... Asia has been rendered without captions to zoom level 12, caption layers are still rendering, but currently default (name) and english (name:en) layers are available to at least zoom level 10... The layers available are: Base - Default, no captions base layer name captions - Captions using the 'name' tag for default names name:en captions - Captions using the 'name:en' tag for English names, falling back to name name:zh captions - Captions using the 'name:zh' tag for Chinese names, falling back to name name:zh_py captions - Captions using the 'name:zh_py' tag for Chinese Pinyin (Mandarin) names, falling back to name name:zh_pyt captions - Captions using the 'name:zh_pyt' tag for Chinese Pinyin names with tone marks, falling back to 'name:zh_py', falling back to name name:ja captions - Captions using the 'name:ja' tag for Japanese names, falling back to name name:ja_rm captions - Captions using the 'name:ja_rm' tag for romanised Japanese names, falling back to name Tiles are being generated with generate_tiles.py for viewing performance reasons, they are currently not being produced at 256 colours because of loss of transparency, which is kind of important for this :) as such, the tiles may be a bit big... Mapnik is current svn version, with only one line changed to make it build with boost 1.33 (centos 5) Database is being synced with diffs, but, there appears to have been a couple of diffs missed at some point the stylesheet is the one from svn, there do seem to be some differences to the current rendering style of the mapnik layer though, so may be a little out of date... index.html was blatently pinched from www.informationfreeway.org tile.openstreetmap.nl/README.txt instructions were useful in getting the database set up and the data into the database regionalised rendering details on the wiki provided the idea of using views Thanks, d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Mapnik layer has become confused by layers?
Hi folks, Not sure when this started, but, mapnik seems to be getting layers wrong when drawing objects... e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.297629lon=120.155582zoom=18layers=B000FTF In this view there is a two dual carriageway primary roads that meet at a junction at ground level (no layer tag), above the junction running north south is a dual carriageway trunk elevated road/viaduct (layer=2), above the primary roads, with some below the trunk and some above is a junction consisting of a number of trunk_link roads (various layer tags) linking the east west primary road to the trunk road... Mapnik appears to be currently drawing all trunk_link roads below everything else, even though they are tagged with layer tags of 1, 2 and 3 depending on which other ways they pass over, though it's difficult to see if it's drawing them under the trunk as there are no borders visible making it all appear to be at the same layer... Similar confusion is also visible in other places where the same road crosses other roads and there are link roads present... e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.27611lon=120.16596zoom=17layers=B000FTF- east west primary linked to north south trunk (bicycle flyover and roundabout between the two) e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.21797lon=120.171zoom=17layers=B000FTF- No link roads present here, but, double decker bridge with primary road at layer 1 and trunk at layer 2 rendered with the primary road above the trunk... e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.27895lon=120.19501zoom=17layers=B000FTFT- Primary links roads at layer 1 overlaid by unclassified roads with no layer tag osmarender seems to get it right, even if it does look a bit messy where the different layers join... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik layer has become confused by layers?
2009/2/13 D Tucny d...@tucny.com Hi folks, Not sure when this started, but, mapnik seems to be getting layers wrong when drawing objects... e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.297629lon=120.155582zoom=18layers=B000FTF In this view there is a two dual carriageway primary roads that meet at a junction at ground level (no layer tag), above the junction running north south is a dual carriageway trunk elevated road/viaduct (layer=2), above the primary roads, with some below the trunk and some above is a junction consisting of a number of trunk_link roads (various layer tags) linking the east west primary road to the trunk road... Mapnik appears to be currently drawing all trunk_link roads below everything else, even though they are tagged with layer tags of 1, 2 and 3 depending on which other ways they pass over, though it's difficult to see if it's drawing them under the trunk as there are no borders visible making it all appear to be at the same layer... Similar confusion is also visible in other places where the same road crosses other roads and there are link roads present... e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.27611lon=120.16596zoom=17layers=B000FTF- east west primary linked to north south trunk (bicycle flyover and roundabout between the two) e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.21797lon=120.171zoom=17layers=B000FTF- No link roads present here, but, double decker bridge with primary road at layer 1 and trunk at layer 2 rendered with the primary road above the trunk... e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.27895lon=120.19501zoom=17layers=B000FTFT- Primary links roads at layer 1 overlaid by unclassified roads with no layer tag osmarender seems to get it right, even if it does look a bit messy where the different layers join... The cloudmade minutely mapnik also get's this right... e.g. http://matt.sandbox.cloudmade.com/?lat=30.29722lon=120.15529zoom=18layers=B0 And a different area with layer issues that's not a road... http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.266499lon=120.129264zoom=18layers=B000FTTT http://matt.sandbox.cloudmade.com/?lat=30.266499lon=120.129264zoom=18layers=B000FTTT Showing a building with parking on much of the top, the parking area has holes using a multipolygon relation where parts of the building are taller than the parking level... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[josm-dev] Autocompletion of numbers and access to presets
Hi folks, I've been adding house/building/street numbers quite a bit recently, and something that's been frustrating me a bit has been autocompletion... For some things, such as keys and fixed values, autocompletion is nice, but especially for numbers, it can be a pain... My work flow is this, add node, click add property, type ad, autocompletes to addr:housenumber, tab to value box, type number, hit enter... Quite quick to do, and with house numbers there's a lot of them, so, speed is good... but... a problem I had at the start of entering house numbers, and one that's still cropping up at times is that the number gets auto completed... the result is that when I'm adding numbers, such as 11, 13, 15, I end up with 11, 132 and 154 due to the fact that 132 and 154 exist on another street somewhere... It's getting to be less of a problem as there are more numbers in the area, i.e. once 13 and 15 are in, it won't try to autocomplete subsequent 13s and 15s to longer numbers, but, it's still catching me out at times, especially if I've grabbed a different area... Using the address preset may help, but, as it stands, presets are not easily accessible, or, perhaps they are only easily accessible and not quickly accessible... I can put a shortcut on the toolbar which would help, but, I can't seem to apply a keyboard shortcut, if I want to access the address preset using only the keyboard, alt-p opens the present menu, but then I have to press the up arrow 10 times, the right arrow once then the up arrow twice... Not exactly quick... So... a couple of things that could help as far as I see... 1) The ability to restrict autocompletion to tags only or tags and a list of tags where the value can be autocompleted, or inversely, where the value shouldn't be autocompleted... Not sure how simple that would be to implement... Then autocompletion of addr:housenumber could be disabled... 2) The ability to access items off the presets menu by key strokes, i.e. Alt-P brings up the presets menu as now, 'b' opens the Building submenu, 'a' opens the Addresses preset window... Then Alt-P, b, a would get me to where I needed to be quicker than using the mouse... 3) The ability to assign keyboard shortcuts to preset items, right now it doesn't look like they can be assigned shortcuts in the shortcuts prefs, it could be useful if they could be as the keyboard access to a specific preset could be shortened beyond what's proposed in 2 if you need access to a certain preset often... I'm not sure if any of these options exist as it stands, there doesn't seem to be a way to configure them in the preferences screen if they do... and I'm afraid I'm not sure how hard it would be to implement them... But, potentially some things that could be considered if someone is those bits of the code... Thanks, d ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] api0.6 - only one value per key?
2009/1/28 marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:07:20 +, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: [Moved to dev; followups to dev] On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:58:25PM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I think multiple keys with the same name should be allowed for a node/way/relation. AFAIK it's only the editors that don't currently let you do this. Yes, the API and data format supports it, but only for another 2 months or so until we switch to 0.6 where it won't be allowed. I cannot find any such restriction in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/0.6 . Could someone please clarify this? I implemented no changes to attribute-handling for the 0.6-support in my software and need to know if I have to explicitely disallow this to happen, write test-cases,... . It's in there, under Related Database Improvements... - It is planned to create an unique index on the combination of object id and tag key, so that it will no longer be possible to have multiple identically named tags on the same object. This was possible until now but rarely used. The impact of this is being analysed. - The relations tables will receive an additional sequence_number column used for sorting the elements. Having the same member in the same relation twice will be allowed. The sequence_number column will not be exposed anywhere, it will just be used to store the sequence in which relation members where uploaded and to return them in the same sequence. d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] api0.6 - only one value per key?
2009/1/28 D Tucny d...@tucny.com 2009/1/28 marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:07:20 +, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: [Moved to dev; followups to dev] On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:58:25PM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I think multiple keys with the same name should be allowed for a node/way/relation. AFAIK it's only the editors that don't currently let you do this. Yes, the API and data format supports it, but only for another 2 months or so until we switch to 0.6 where it won't be allowed. I cannot find any such restriction in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/0.6 . Could someone please clarify this? I implemented no changes to attribute-handling for the 0.6-support in my software and need to know if I have to explicitely disallow this to happen, write test-cases,... . It's in there, under Related Database Improvements... - It is planned to create an unique index on the combination of object id and tag key, so that it will no longer be possible to have multiple identically named tags on the same object. This was possible until now but rarely used. The impact of this is being analysed. - The relations tables will receive an additional sequence_number column used for sorting the elements. Having the same member in the same relation twice will be allowed. The sequence_number column will not be exposed anywhere, it will just be used to store the sequence in which relation members where uploaded and to return them in the same sequence. And to reply to myself after noticing the subject... It's not one value per key as such that's being mentioned here, but, only single unique keys... i.e. you can't have multiple tags with the same key... An attempt to write for example, two name tags on an object in 0.6 should result in an error response from the API... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] 'Up-to-Date', serving ondemand live Mapnik data
2009/1/19 Christopher Schmidt crschm...@metacarta.com Hey, Using the osm2pgsql diff loading code, and osmosis's --rci, I've got an up to date copy of the Mapnik database being maintained on a server I have access to. I put together a little bookmarklet that lets you do a 'live view' of any area by pressing a button. http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ Since this is not tiled at all, the performance is not likely to be great, but it does make an interesting demo. As usual, the data is working from osmosis minutely diffs, so it will be delayed in the same way those are. For the record, loading daily diffs took about one hour apiece (after spending the 10.5 hours to get a planet loaded). (Range was from 45m to 70m; the latter was during a vaccum run, I believe.) All in all, a pretty simple task; just load a planet, load diffs with -a -- I did this manually to get caught up to the latest hour -- then turn on --rci. Feedback welcome, One quick note... It looks like UTF8 data has been broken at some point... example of area that this is visible below... http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=30.287874917085606lon=120.12903655645077zoom=16layers=F0F0B0F Apart from that little problem it looks pretty cool... Of course, if the mapnik layer was getting minutely diffs applied along with automatic marking of tiles with changes as dirty, that would be even cooler :) d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] 'Up-to-Date', serving ondemand live Mapnik data
2009/1/19 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, D Tucny wrote: One quick note... It looks like UTF8 data has been broken at some point... I guess that's what is meant by potential gotchas at the bottom of the Minutely Mapnik page: When creating your database, make sure you specify the encoding as utf-8, otherwise you will get crappy encoding issues. (This is currently the case for the Up-to-Date DB: I'll probably wait until the new planet is out, and update it after it comes out.) Ahh, hadn't read that page yet, thanks Frederik... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Fail
2009/1/17 Rolf Bode-Meyer rob...@gmail.com 2009/1/16 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-gis-osm-josm-...@silbe.org: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:21:27PM +0100, Pieren wrote: Where is the limit of making harder commands for _intentional_ actions just to prevent _unintentional_ actions ? It is very hard to find the right balance between newcomers and experimented users. This isn't about newcomers vs. experienced users. I _am_ experienced and during my normal work I _often_ move objects when I want to select something instead, just because JOSM binds two separate actions to the same input. Huh? What two separate actions? The same action (moving) _should_ need the same input (click and drag) regardless what is to be moved. I guess it's the select box and drag move being both the same that's referred to here... If there's a config option I have to set to prevent it from happening: Fine for me. I need special configs for most programs anyway, this won't make a difference. Having said above in my work with JOSM accidentally dragging a way almost only happens when I want to add a new node by clicking a virtual node. Right now CTRL *prevents* creating a new node when clicking on a virtual node. So from this experience I would see reversal of CTRL+click on a way as improvement. I preferred the old modeful JOSM, but, short of splitting out the modes again, perhaps some tweaking of the sensitivity to nearby objects would make it more difficult to select features you don't want to and easier to select them you do, as long as you are reasonably accurate with your clicking... d ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Potlatch - really BAD bug
2009/1/13 Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com Hello, We have just seen that a portion of the map I edited yesterday with Potlatch is now really broken, is missing lots of points and has its history broken. http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.86196lon=24.89171zoom=16layers=B000FTTT This is easily visible when comparing mapnik and osmarender views and confronting them with the data. What's even more weirder is the fact that if I try to edit with Potlatch, the way is displayed correctly, as if stale data was read of as if Mapnik's data was read. I tried to use JOSM and I saw that the broken data is shown (the straight line, not the old good data). I also tried changing the browser and the bug is reproducible (on Firefox and on Epiphany; platform is Debian GNU/Linux amd64 (x86_64) ). Please help, this is the worst bug I've seen in Potlatch and it has a huge impact on its usability and reliability. At the same time, I am starting to get worried about the correctness of the data I am seeing and I am worried about Potlatch trashing the data is touching. There was a post 12 hours ago to the talk list about the exact same thing... Richard the author of potlatch explained the issue in his reply to that post 11 hours ago as being a partial written save due to server load or network problems or some other weird issue, the result being that ways can contain nodes that are deleted... As Richard described in his mail, the best tool to fix this is potlatch itself, reopen the area in Potlatch, modify the way that has a problem, e.g. by moving a node then moving it back, then unselect it and the data will be resaved with any missing nodes reinstated... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] database history
2009/1/6 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com I was looking on the history of this way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/23322317/history and found, that the first 3 are completely the same (beside that the first entry and No. 2 and 3 have a different created by-tag), or am I missing something? Is this a case that can be found more often? If you have a look at the nodes in the way, some of them changed position... If I recall correctly, potlatch, the online editor save a new version of the way, and potentially all nodes within it, if any part of the way is modified... In this case, only changes to node positions occurred between the second and third versions being saved... Specifically, this node http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node/252528351/history d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem
2008/12/31 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de D Tucny wrote: I'm not seeing it... Let me first enlight you with the non-variated idea. You seem to miss the point that to see the rest of the way: 1) a request can be made with a new bbox like now is common practice if you want to edit a larger area But how do you know where the rest of the way is? Ascii art: Your viewport/bbox; --- | | | | | | | | | | --- Nodes in the way; --- | | | | |.. | | . . | | . | --- Explicit order of them; --- | | |26 | |. 3. | | . . 4 | | 1 . | --- How the editor draws it: --- | | | | |., o | | o,' ',. | | ',o | --- *see below for revisted thing* User thinks; mmm... that way is outside my bbox, lets request the area next to it. Now that area will also return a partial way; --- |---|-- | | | | |. | . | | | . . | | | | | | | ---|--- | | | -- The editor merges the result; --- | |-- | | |... . | | . . | | . . | ---| | |. | -- And now it can connect; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ---, | +-- | | | ,.,.-.--. | | .' '.,. , | | '. . | ---+, , | |.,| -- Attempting to use ASCII art to illustrate my example... OK, as an example... I get a bbox that covers a 500m x 500m area... 10 ways run through that area, including 2 I'm actually interested in... right now, as long as those 10 ways have nodes within the bbox I get them all and I can see how they interact and where they go after leaving my bbox giving a useful hint as to where to expand my bbox should I want to edit a way that leaves it... With your suggestion I could see that I could have say 1 line, between 2 nodes and and 5 additional standalone nodes, the only thing I know is that the two nodes joined are part of one way and the other 5 nodes are either not part of that way, or, if they are, that there are other nodes, somewhere outside of the bbox that connects them... if I select the one visible way, as none of the nodes are highlighted, I'd know that they were not part of that way, so, they must be either standalone nodes that are not part of a way, which, with their lack of tags would suggest that they were bad edits, or, they are indeed part of a way, but for which there are no other nodes to be connected to... if we assume that they were further highlighted in your suggestion to show that they were special way nodes as opposed to non way nodes, I'd know they were part of a way, but, I don't know which way or where infact additional nodes are... I can blindly extend the bbox and cross my fingers hoping I'll get more nodes to be able to visualise part of the way, or, I guess, the editor can be made to give me a list of ways that are missing nodes so that I can download them in full manually... bbox: --- | | | | | | | | | | --- Returned data: --- | . | | .| | . . | | .| | . . | --- Order of nodes (multiple ways): --- | 8 | | 4| | 3 4 | | 4| | 2 2 | --- How the editor draws them... --- | o | | o| | oo | | o| | o o | --- How I'd expect the editor to draw them, even with partial ways... o \ \ o o \| | -|\-|-- | | |. | o--|-+--+\---.|---o o--+-+.--\--+o o--|-+--+.\---|---o | . . \ | -|---|- \ | |o | o o Expanding bboxes gets some of the nodes, but, would need to be repeated in each direction to get all of them, with no guarantees if the bbox was not expanded far enough... 2) CLick on the way and do a full So replacing one request with multiple requests... erm... Assuming you could actually find the way... If a part of your way is visible you should be able to request it by the usual 'rest' command. /ways/[id] or alternatively multible bboxes
Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem
2008/12/29 Jeremy Adams mile...@king-nerd.com Hey all, There's an issue with the minute change file 200812290912-200812290913.osc.gz. It contains a way which has over 40k nodes. It's an administrative boundary which appears to enclose all of Quebec. It's way id is 29309772. When osmosis attempts to process this file it fails. The relevant parts of the error appear to be Unable to insert new way node and a pgsql error ERROR: smallint out of range. I'm sure I can find the way and split it into smaller chunks, but what's the process for getting the ROMA servers running again? Can we just remove the reference to the way in the changeset and continue updating? The way should be added back in once it's split and reuploaded, correct? -Jeremy The same problem happened on 31st October... Subject: HEADS UP osmosis pgsql schema users Was: psql osmosis simple shema / smallint out of range On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, i just discovered that osmosis was not able to apply the hourly osc file starting 2008-10-29T20:00:00Z - It failed with: 2008-10-31 11:09:52 CET ERROR: smallint out of range 2008-10-31 11:09:52 CET STATEMENT: INSERT INTO way_nodes (way_id, node_id, sequence_id) VALUES ($1, $2, $3) Is there a way with 2^16 aka 65536 nodes? Or did someone manage to enter a completely broken sequence number? ... [show rest of quotehttp://www.nabble.com/psql-osmosis-simple-shemasmallint-out-of-range-td20263104.html# ] ... [rest of quote removed] Its 2^15 because it signed - and yes - somebody managed to get abovE: osm= select max(sequence_id) from way_nodes; max --- 39767 (1 row) osm= select * from way_nodes where sequence_id = 39767; way_id | node_id | sequence_id --+---+- 28098452 | 308532457 | 39767 I converted the smallint to int ... Flo So, perhaps following Flo's lead and changing the smallint to int would be the best approach for dealing with getting the ROMA servers back up and running... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] internal server error: informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way[name=Vilhonvuorenkatu]
2008/12/23 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Hi, any idea why $ wget -O a ' http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way[name=Vilhonvuorenkatu]http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way%5Bname=Vilhonvuorenkatu%5D ' Warning: wildcards not supported in HTTP. --18:02:46-- http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way[name=Vilhonvuorenkatu]http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way%5Bname=Vilhonvuorenkatu%5D = `a' Resolving www.informationfreeway.org... 80.68.90.42 Connecting to www.informationfreeway.org|80.68.90.42|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/way%5bname=Vilhonvuorenkatu%5d[following] --18:02:46-- http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/way%5bname=Vilhonvuorenkatu%5d = `a' Resolving osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org... 137.110.119.130 Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org|137.110.119.130|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 501 Internal Server Error 18:03:13 ERROR 501: Internal Server Error. fails with internal server error? Because all osmxapi requests are currently failing with an internal server error? d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Osmarender not always showing latest data
I'm seeing the same elsewhere too... Quite a few things are showing older versions or not showing up at all while in the same tile features added today are present... Way 28728177 is an example of one that is missing from the t...@h rendering at as of now... d 2008/12/16 Rowland Shaw rowland.s...@gmail.com Looks like osmarender is doing something odd again: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.5443lon=0.75487zoom=16layers=0B00FTTT And this time a re-render from informationfreeway is not fixing it :( (It appears to have lost a bunch of fixes I did around 2008-11-27 21:25:52). Bizarrely the Mapnik layer is better in this area... 2008/12/16 Milenko mile...@king-nerd.com: mile...@king-nerd.com wrote: I haven't figured out how the server got out of sync with the main api yet. My best guess is that I somehow missed part of a day or a few hours when I initially brought the server online. If I remember correctly the timeframes are about the same. Okay, hopefully it was a once off. The only issue I've had with --rci was during the api outtage last weekend. The main server produced a 0-byte minute diff during the outtage and osmosis wouldn't scan past that file. I had to apply the hourly diff and then go from there. Can you let me know if this happens again? That seems odd. I should never create 0 byte diffs. At a minimum they should be 110 bytes which is an osmChange file containing no data. I don't update the server timestamp until a diff file is successfully generated and available. That way clients should never download an invalid file. The only exception to this is when utf-8 issues crop up in the main db and osmosis generates a dodgy file on the server that can't be processed. If it comes up again I'll let you know. Like I said, it was during the outtage so maybe the db went down as osmosis was opening the file for writing or something like that. -Jeremy ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] bulk_import.pl
2008/12/15 Wolfgang W. Wasserburger o...@wasserburger.at Hi all, I should do some large imports for Austria; the data has allready merged node ids and is organzied in osm-change files; imports are also discussed with the local community. Import sizes seem to be to large to use JOSM, so we have to do bulk_imports. Reading some Wiki pages I could not find out how to install the pearl script. Trying it on Win XP or Ubuntu I had no chance to get it running. Has omeone a 5 step tip how to get it running? It would help me a lot. best regards from Vienna, Austria (no kangaroos here ;-) Wolfgang Wolfgang, How far are you getting? The script itself doesn't need much installing, but, there are a few dependencies... If you are missing any then when you run the script like 'perl bulk_upload.pl' it should fail with an error message telling you what is missing... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] surveillance cams not shown in any render
2008/12/12 Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com 2008/12/11 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: On 11 Dec 2008, at 19:48, Ulf Lamping wrote: Eddy Petrișor schrieb: Solution 1: add an extra tag traffic which can be yes for such cameras Solution 2: new value for man_made: man_made=traffic_surveillance for such cameras Solution 3: Use highway=speed_camera which is already used ~500 times and also will show up at least in JOSM. Real solution: use a custom rendering of the map data: http://osm.vdska.de/ Why would I prefer to use a custom rendering instead of clarifying the tags, usage and quirks and push for rendering support in Mapnik and Osmarender? If everything that could be tagged (well, everything can be tagged due to the flexibility of the tagging scheme) got tagged and got rendered on a map the map would be very feature full, but, probably useless... Mapnik can render anything you want... The Mapnik layer on OSM doesn't render everything, it aims to provide a generic useful view of the data... osmarender can render anything you want, but, the osmarender layer on OSM also doesn't render everything... With the data stored in OSM and everyone's different requirements for maps, I think it would be awesome if there was a way that people could easily build maps with the information and features that they want, whether that's by multiple layers of rendered data that can be overlaid or whether it's just finding a way of providing users with a lower cost entry to being able to extract the information from OSM and get it rendered, all is good... Right now, custom rendering of the map data is still somewhat above beginner level difficulty... But... Custom output based on OSM data would seem to be the way forward, but, it's not necessarily a service that OSM should provide, if the generation of these renderings was done by OSM it would consume a lot of OSMs resources, both in terms of people's time in development as well as financial resources in building the infrastructure to support it... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] surveillance cams not shown in any render
2008/12/12 Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com 2008/12/12 80n 80n...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/11 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: On 11 Dec 2008, at 19:48, Ulf Lamping wrote: Eddy Petrișor schrieb: Solution 1: add an extra tag traffic which can be yes for such cameras Solution 2: new value for man_made: man_made=traffic_surveillance for such cameras Solution 3: Use highway=speed_camera which is already used ~500 times and also will show up at least in JOSM. Real solution: use a custom rendering of the map data: http://osm.vdska.de/ Why would I prefer to use a custom rendering instead of clarifying the tags, usage and quirks and push for rendering support in Mapnik and Osmarender? Speed cameras did used to be rendered in Osmarender. Not sure whether it has been removed deliberately (some people are opposed to helping motorists I am not clear how marking cameras *is* helping people break the law. They rather help them *not* break the law. At least here in Romania, such cameras are marked as present at the entry in the area where they are present, so the only help is to pinpoint the location, instead of being aware of an area. I'm sorry, but... The speed limit doesn't only apply where cameras are located... Marking speed cameras doesn't help people not break the law, it would only help people avoid being caught for breaking the law... Personally I find myself slightly speeding (up to 5-7km/h more than legal) occasionaly in villages or hamlets, since the legal speed (50km/h) is between gears, but I am extra-careful in the surveilled areas in order not to get fined accidentally. I'm sure you have many gears that cover speeds below 50km/h... The reality of it is that you, like many drivers, prefer to drive a little faster... The legal speed limit is 50km/h, it doesn't mean you have to drive 50km/h, it means you must not exceed 50km/h... I know that technically/legally I am speeding, but technically, the tachometers could have errors and practically my speeding could be compensated by good reaction time, while somebody else, even under legal speed limit might not have that skill. You are right, your speedometer could be inaccurate and while you think you are speeding, it may be that the real speed is lower... But... It could also be that the real speed is higher if errors are present... I agree also that someone with good reaction times and good driving skills could be safer at a higher speed than someone with slower reaction times and/or poor driving skills... but... the law is the law... It doesn't make you less guilty of speeding if you are a good driver... But, it might make the difference between being charged with speeding and dangerous or careless driving... What I am trying to say is that the the legal speed limit is an artificial way to keep accidents under control, but since I am careful even when I speeding, the goal is achieved anyway, and I think *that* is the important part. Whatever anyone's feelings on what a law is supposed to be for and how that should or should not affect them is really irrelevant when it comes to mapping... (almost back on topic here ;)) If you want to lobby for the laws to be changed, you a free to go chase that... but... OSM is about the data... Recording the speed limit on a road will help people avoid breaking the law (if they have that data available to them while driving on the road)... Recording where safety/speed/control/enforcement/whatever else type of cameras are could be useful to people who want to speed but don't want to get caught... But... I don't feel it has a place on the standard map... break the law) or accidentally (never attribute to malice...). I always thought that the Mapnik render was a render for general usage, but slightly biased toward driving and pedestrian usage. That's way I thought it would be appropriate for cameras to be rendered in Mapnik and Osmarender. Many features are valuable to everyone... Many features are valuable to some... Some features appear on the map... Location of speed cameras wouldn't in my opinion be of use to law abiding citizens... Marking of speed limit changes would be more useful I feel... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] surveillance cams not shown in any render
2008/12/12 Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com 2008/12/12 D Tucny d...@tucny.com: 2008/12/12 Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com 2008/12/11 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Eddy Petrișor schrieb: Solution 1: add an extra tag traffic which can be yes for such cameras Solution 2: new value for man_made: man_made=traffic_surveillance for such cameras Solution 3: Use highway=speed_camera which is already used ~500 times and also will show up at least in JOSM. And what happens for intersections that are both surveilled and do have traffic lights? You just add another distinct node just for that? Yes, one for the location of the CCTV camera sounds good... Also, I think the idea to call it *speed* camera is not that great since it can detect/trigger/be used for other traffic-related fines, such as illegal overtakes, level crossing related illegalities, etc. Are you sure? Typically there are two types of camera, those that are used for automatic recording of offenses, speed cameras, red light cameras, etc... and then there are CCTV cameras for surveillance and monitoring of traffic, typically recorded but manually operated... Is there a need to have 2 different values for those types? I think that it would be better if an extra tag would be used to make that distinction. In fact, as a driver you'd be more aware that you should be extra-careful not to accidentally break the law, no matter the local surveillance type. I'd suggest that surveillance cameras or CCTV should be grouped together and enforcement snapshot capturing cameras relating only to roads should be grouped together... I'm sure there are plenty of privacy enthusiasts that would love to make a map of CCTV coverage allowing them to walk in it's shadows, so, they could go with the surveillance tag and make a map using that, also, I'm sure there are people who'd like to break traffic laws, so they could make a map of enforcement cameras to allow them to know where they could be caught by an automatic law enforcement device... I'd suggest that surveillance and enforcement are sufficiently different that they are split... So I think this pair would do the trick. k=highway v=traffic_surveillance k=surveillance v=manual/speed/automatic/red_light/all And why, if is already used, is not documented on the Map_Features page? Is a discussion as this one necessary first? The Map Features page doesn't document everything that is widely used, it doesn't even document everything that is rendered... There are many proposed tags that are widely used but haven't made it on to Map Features, there are some tags on Map Features that are very rarely used... There are more tags that don't appear as proposed tags or on Map Features but have been used widely... Whether a positive or a negative thing, individuals thoughts on it vary, tags are free text, you could invent your own tag and use it as you saw fit for anything you wanted, but you wouldn't have to document it, renders wouldn't have to support it... Of course, but I'd rather have documented things/situations that match any of these: - are commonly used (which the current page seems to cover quite well) - are likely to be used in exceptional situations but aren't clearly documented (sometimes documented on other pages with or without links from the Feture page) - are likely to raise questions for newbies (sometimes documented directly on that page) I'd love a document entitled 'How to map - A tag for every circumstance, all in full detail with illustrations!'... But... Such a thing a) doesn't exist and b) would be virtually impossible to put together and maintain with the flexibility of tagging in OSM... You're welcome to try if you want to though... ;) d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Crowd sourced Testing of OSM API 0.6
2008/12/11 Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, As the 0.6 XML API is now feature complete, I'd like to start a push for getting it tested, to iron on the final bugs prior to going live. Can you all please take a look at the following page to find out more about testing the 0.6 API: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Crowd_sourced_Testing And then please put your testing hats on to find the bugs. One quick question... erm... ok, two actually now, well, one's a problem... Uploading a changeset doesn't seem to have a real progress bar... it shows full from the start is this supposed to work? Second issue, not sure if it's been fixed, I'll update to the latest release when it finishes downloading, but, while waiting for the upload to complete the following happened... I'd guess it was a connection reset or something, but, not sure what JOSM was doing in trying to retry... Defaults for osm-server.version differ: 0.6 != 0.5 upload to: http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/25/upload...conn ected backing off for 10 seconds...retrying (9 left) Defaults for osm-server.version differ: 0.6 != 0.5 upload to: http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/25/close...Defau lts for osm-server.version differ: 0.6 != 0.5 connected Defaults for osm-server.version differ: 0.6 != 0.5 upload to: http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/25/close...Defau lts for osm-server.version differ: 0.6 != 0.5 connected Path: trunk URL: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk Repository Root: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn Repository UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b Revision: 1097 Node Kind: directory Last Changed Author: framm Last Changed Rev: 1097 Last Changed Date: 2008-12-01 02:04:27 +0100 (Mon, 01 Dec 2008) java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected end of file from server java.net.SocketException at org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmServerWriter.stopChangeset(OsmServerWriter.java:475) at org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmServerWriter.uploadOsm(OsmServerWriter.java:156) at org.openstreetmap.josm.actions.UploadAction$2.realRun(UploadAction.java:152) at org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.PleaseWaitRunnable.run(PleaseWaitRunnable.java:84) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(Unknown Source) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source) at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source) at org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmServerWriter.stopChangeset(OsmServerWriter.java:416) ... 6 more ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editing outside of bounding box
2008/12/9 Dominik Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, It seems to be that editing data outside of a bounding box generates a warning in JOSM. (This is not a JOSM question!) At first, it seems to be obvious: delete a way with all its nodes, where some nodes could be part of way thats not loaded into the editor. Okay, but where exactly is the problem? The editor will try to delete the node, will recieve a 412 Error and recognize hey i can't delete that node because... and it is all fine. Do I miss something important? I think the idea is the warn you beforehand rather than the first warning being that the upload for a certain node number has failed, then having to mess around trying to recover that node so that the rest of your upload can continue until the next node fails... Or are you suggesting that when uploading it should just ignore errors that could be considered to be user error? The API should keep the data in sync these days and with the next version will do even more to ensure that's the case... But... Having the editor warn you of potential problems before you start bouncing off the API does to me seem like a good idea... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Toll Booth - One Side of Road
2008/12/6 MilesTogoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wondering what is the best way to tag a toll booth that is only on one side of the road (one direction) In the US we have many of these at bridges. Is there separation between the two directions of traffic across the bridge? If so, then it would be best for it to be two separate one way ways... Then putting the toll booth just on one side wouldn't be a problem... d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Chinese font questiong! (中文 字体问题)
2008/8/11 Grant Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit wrote: hi all : see title! Subject: 中文字体问题 Google Translate Subject: Chinese character issue Where is the problem? What is wrong with the Chinese characters? Google Translate: 哪里是问题呢？ 有什么不妥的中文字符？ http://www.google.cn/language_tools?hl=zh-CN Maybe it's just the randomness of font availability on renderers of the osmarender layer. Since Mapnik has been fixed it is now looking good. 可能这个问题就是不是每个人有中文的书体在osmarender的层． Mapnik现在修好了所以现在蛮好看． (Apologies for poor quality of Chinese) d ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
