Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
Could you elaborate a bit. I don't quite understand what you mean... 2008/7/3 Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wonder if it would be possible in JOSM/Merkaartor to support some sort of 'default' country/province outlining so it is more easy to spot a position? Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
El Jueves, 3 de Julio de 2008, Stefan de Konink escribió: Chris Browet schreef: Could you elaborate a bit. I don't quite understand what you mean... Boundaries of countries, maybe province level that gives the user some idea what region he wants to zoom in to. Have you tried the slippy map chooser plugin? -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta compleja. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
Iván Sánchez Ortega schreef: El Jueves, 3 de Julio de 2008, Stefan de Konink escribió: Chris Browet schreef: Could you elaborate a bit. I don't quite understand what you mean... Boundaries of countries, maybe province level that gives the user some idea what region he wants to zoom in to. Have you tried the slippy map chooser plugin? I have not, and I bet the other 99.9% of our user base did not too. Looking at the slippy map screenshot, it is not even what I mean ;) Just a basic 'linestyle' outline will give the user a direct idea what is present (the world) in front of him and how it is presented (white lines, black colour) to him. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
In Merkaartor, you just have to activate one of the image background providers, e.g. Mapnik, to have a full map in the background... You can then move freely to wherever you want, CTRL+D Enter and you have the OSM data of the current view... 2008/7/3 Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Iván Sánchez Ortega schreef: El Jueves, 3 de Julio de 2008, Stefan de Konink escribió: Chris Browet schreef: Could you elaborate a bit. I don't quite understand what you mean... Boundaries of countries, maybe province level that gives the user some idea what region he wants to zoom in to. Have you tried the slippy map chooser plugin? I have not, and I bet the other 99.9% of our user base did not too. Looking at the slippy map screenshot, it is not even what I mean ;) Just a basic 'linestyle' outline will give the user a direct idea what is present (the world) in front of him and how it is presented (white lines, black colour) to him. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
From a userfriendly/newbie point of view wouldn't it be good if it was the other way around? Enabled by default, show what we have? Enabled by default? It's a matter of choice. I'd rather not have the user use bandwidth without him wanting to. Show what we have? There is a Zoom all function which adapt the view to show all downloaded data. But in essence I was talking about a vector representation, not bitmap perse (if bandwidth is any limitation). I'm afraid there is little chance to see that in Merkaartor (not worth the hassle vs. what we already have, IMHO). Maybe JOSM... ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
Chris Browet schreef: I'm afraid there is little chance to see that in Merkaartor (not worth the hassle vs. what we already have, IMHO). Maybe JOSM... Although now that I think of it, it could reasonably easily be done by generating static maps from OSM, thru Osmarender, only showing administrative areas... But still, there should be a real need for this... But isn't is much more easy? Something like downloading a static OSM file with administrative areas from a static webserver (one time) and present that in the main window. Just as indication for the user what a map looks like in the specific application. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
Yes, I suppose so... If such a file exists somewhere... 2008/7/3 Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris Browet schreef: I'm afraid there is little chance to see that in Merkaartor (not worth the hassle vs. what we already have, IMHO). Maybe JOSM... Although now that I think of it, it could reasonably easily be done by generating static maps from OSM, thru Osmarender, only showing administrative areas... But still, there should be a real need for this... But isn't is much more easy? Something like downloading a static OSM file with administrative areas from a static webserver (one time) and present that in the main window. Just as indication for the user what a map looks like in the specific application. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
I don't quite understand what you mean... Boundaries of countries, maybe province level that gives the user some idea what region he wants to zoom in to. Have you tried the slippy map chooser plugin? I have not, and I bet the other 99.9% of our user base did not too. Looking at the slippy map screenshot, it is not even what I mean ;) Just a basic 'linestyle' outline will give the user a direct idea what is present (the world) in front of him and how it is presented (white lines, black colour) to him. If I look at the screenshot of the josm slippy_map_chooser plugin, I can see the boundaries of countries. Regards, Raphael ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Browet schreef: I'm afraid there is little chance to see that in Merkaartor (not worth the hassle vs. what we already have, IMHO). Maybe JOSM... Although now that I think of it, it could reasonably easily be done by generating static maps from OSM, thru Osmarender, only showing administrative areas... But still, there should be a real need for this... But isn't is much more easy? Something like downloading a static OSM file with administrative areas from a static webserver (one time) and present that in the main window. Just as indication for the user what a map looks like in the specific application. Stefan Please be sure to do it in such a way that newbies to OSM/Merkaartor don't get easily confused when they see admin data pre-loaded. -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
I would stick with the slippy map as implemented in Merkaartor. And maybe, (really maybe) enhance the highest level map with country names. (can be special nodes, easy to maintain, easy to render and easy to get from the OSM database) In my opinion, a person that is not able to find his own country on a smoothly moving worldmap should not be mapping at streetlevel. Thomas Wood wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Browet schreef: I'm afraid there is little chance to see that in Merkaartor (not worth the hassle vs. what we already have, IMHO). Maybe JOSM... Although now that I think of it, it could reasonably easily be done by generating static maps from OSM, thru Osmarender, only showing administrative areas... But still, there should be a real need for this... But isn't is much more easy? Something like downloading a static OSM file with administrative areas from a static webserver (one time) and present that in the main window. Just as indication for the user what a map looks like in the specific application. Stefan Please be sure to do it in such a way that newbies to OSM/Merkaartor don't get easily confused when they see admin data pre-loaded. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Editor ideas / default country outlining
I wonder if it would be possible in JOSM/Merkaartor to support some sort of 'default' country/province outlining so it is more easy to spot a position? Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
