Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
I was looking for something similar a while ago for a different project and found nothing free. There are plenty of paid datasets. I do think there should be some kind of open retailer database that lists locations and operating hours of places. It wouldn’t be too difficult to index most major retailer sites to get this information. It really should exist separate from openstreetmap. It’s definitely something I’d be interested in contributing to. On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Actually, the intent of my original question was a little different. I like the OSM data as it is and with tools such as the ones suggested here, its fairly easy to add new data over periods of time, however, I was curious, whether there is any open source project or movement to do something like localeze (http://www.neustarlocaleze.biz/directory/index.aspx) or dnb.com or yext.com or publisher.yp.com. For example, for a fee and restricted license, yp.com can give me phone numbers, websites, hours of operation, coupons for a local business. How do we make that available on OSM under odbl? -- Thanks Sachin On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Thank you! OnOsm.org looks promising. I have the same legality question about how Joi has suggested his links. However, I was able to click around on that website and was able to create a single poi in osm based on my personal knowledge. Followed below is the changeset info that Joi's url gave me, further, here is the url of the POI that I just added : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2922366101. I think this is pretty cool. Now, I just wonder who owns that site and if they have any licensing requirements for what I would do on their site. Changeset opened: 23012165 POI created: 2922366101 Changeset closed Thanks ahain! On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: onosm.org run by Ian Dees is a good one. It creates notes, which isn't perfect, but it's the best thing we have at the moment IMHO. - Serge On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
Am 18.06.2014 21:57, schrieb Sachin Dole: .. cool. Now, I just wonder who owns that site and if they have any licensing requirements for what I would do on their site. Every site targeted at a German audience*, including non-commercial ones, is required to have a so called Impressum stating who operates the site etc.. If you scroll down to the bottom you will find the link that will give you everything you want to know and more. As to the legality, there is just no way POIs from 4sq can be copied into OSM. However I suspect what the operator is simply doing is linking from the OSM POI to the corresponding 4sq meta information which is likely OK from an OSM pov, and maybe it is OK with 4sq too. Simon * don't get me started on the fact that OSM doesn't have it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] places of business listings
Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
YAPIS is something that can assist in it. I don't know the project well but it seems to extract POI from Foursquare and GeoCaching and something else. Examples: POI from Foursquare for Bonn http://yapis.geoclub.de/foursquare.php?lat=50.7358511lon=7.1006599 POI from Foursquare for Kópavogur http://yapis.geoclub.de/foursquare.php?lat=64.0886611lon=-21.826357252719 Users can use this info to add to the map using normal OSM editors, I just noticed a couple of these yesterday in Kópavogur. Would like to know more about YAPIS though if anyone on the list can divulge more - could integrate it into a thing I'm working on regarding POI (not just place of business) and data quality in OSM. --Jói Þann 18.6.2014 18:12, skrifaði Sachin Dole: Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com http://www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
On 18/06/14 19:47, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: YAPIS is something that can assist in it. I don't know the project well but it seems to extract POI from Foursquare and GeoCaching and something else. Examples: POI from Foursquare for Bonn http://yapis.geoclub.de/foursquare.php?lat=50.7358511lon=7.1006599 POI from Foursquare for Kópavogur http://yapis.geoclub.de/foursquare.php?lat=64.0886611lon=-21.826357252719 Users can use this info to add to the map using normal OSM editors, I just noticed a couple of these yesterday in Kópavogur. Are you sure the data is appropriately licensed? The URL suggests that the data has come from foursquare which almost certainly means it can't legally be added to OSM. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
onosm.org run by Ian Dees is a good one. It creates notes, which isn't perfect, but it's the best thing we have at the moment IMHO. - Serge On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
Thank you! OnOsm.org looks promising. I have the same legality question about how Joi has suggested his links. However, I was able to click around on that website and was able to create a single poi in osm based on my personal knowledge. Followed below is the changeset info that Joi's url gave me, further, here is the url of the POI that I just added : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2922366101. I think this is pretty cool. Now, I just wonder who owns that site and if they have any licensing requirements for what I would do on their site. Changeset opened: 23012165 POI created: 2922366101 Changeset closed Thanks ahain! On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: onosm.org run by Ian Dees is a good one. It creates notes, which isn't perfect, but it's the best thing we have at the moment IMHO. - Serge On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
Actually, the intent of my original question was a little different. I like the OSM data as it is and with tools such as the ones suggested here, its fairly easy to add new data over periods of time, however, I was curious, whether there is any open source project or movement to do something like localeze (http://www.neustarlocaleze.biz/directory/index.aspx) or dnb.com or yext.com or publisher.yp.com. For example, for a fee and restricted license, yp.com can give me phone numbers, websites, hours of operation, coupons for a local business. How do we make that available on OSM under odbl? -- Thanks Sachin On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Thank you! OnOsm.org looks promising. I have the same legality question about how Joi has suggested his links. However, I was able to click around on that website and was able to create a single poi in osm based on my personal knowledge. Followed below is the changeset info that Joi's url gave me, further, here is the url of the POI that I just added : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2922366101. I think this is pretty cool. Now, I just wonder who owns that site and if they have any licensing requirements for what I would do on their site. Changeset opened: 23012165 POI created: 2922366101 Changeset closed Thanks ahain! On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: onosm.org run by Ian Dees is a good one. It creates notes, which isn't perfect, but it's the best thing we have at the moment IMHO. - Serge On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] places of business listings
Other than coupons (which would do better in a separate database, not as part of OSM, since they are likely to change often), OSM already has tags for all of these pieces of data. Some mappers are capturing this information, but I am not aware of a project aimed specifically at capturing business data as opposed to non-business data. On June 18, 2014 3:10:47 PM CDT, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Actually, the intent of my original question was a little different. I like the OSM data as it is and with tools such as the ones suggested here, its fairly easy to add new data over periods of time, however, I was curious, whether there is any open source project or movement to do something like localeze (http://www.neustarlocaleze.biz/directory/index.aspx) or dnb.com or yext.com or publisher.yp.com. For example, for a fee and restricted license, yp.com can give me phone numbers, websites, hours of operation, coupons for a local business. How do we make that available on OSM under odbl? -- Thanks Sachin On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Thank you! OnOsm.org looks promising. I have the same legality question about how Joi has suggested his links. However, I was able to click around on that website and was able to create a single poi in osm based on my personal knowledge. Followed below is the changeset info that Joi's url gave me, further, here is the url of the POI that I just added : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2922366101. I think this is pretty cool. Now, I just wonder who owns that site and if they have any licensing requirements for what I would do on their site. Changeset opened: 23012165 POI created: 2922366101 Changeset closed Thanks ahain! On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: onosm.org run by Ian Dees is a good one. It creates notes, which isn't perfect, but it's the best thing we have at the moment IMHO. - Serge On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com wrote: Hello, Is there any ongoing project or effort to add places of business to OSM? I am looking for free/open source data such as the type provided by dnb or yellow pages api. I wont be surprised if there is none, but was wondering if there is any work on this. Thank you! Sachin Dole www.trelair.com - this is still a work in progress startup ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 -- President | Genvega Inc. | www.genvega.com | tel: 630.290.2561 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
