Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2014-01-06 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
Hi Rob, Sorry for the really late reply / hope you remember this thread.

I got some assistance from the irc. I pulled the latest source using svn
checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid/trunk/qpid qpid
Then I ran patch -i QPID-5437.patch --dry-run -p0 in the Java branch.
The patch seemed successful. From there I did an ant build and got the
file qpid-all.jar
Looking for where I would go from here to get this running and bound to a
different IP?

I am finding that when I run it there is no main class specified.

On 12/19/13 6:11 PM, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5437 and attached
a
quick patch to allow for HTTP ports to be bound to a speicifc address in
the same way that AMQP ports are.  The patch is against the head of trunk
rather than 0.22, though I don't imagine it'd be too difficult to get it
to
apply to that version.

Hope this helps,
Rob


On 20 December 2013 00:51, Robbie Gemmell robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 19 December 2013 23:36, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

  So it looks like it will be a completely trivial fix to allow the HTTP
 port
  to bind to different interfaces... the JMX (as Robbie says) not so
 much...
  however if you don't need the JMX management plugin you can disable
it.
 

 It shouldnt be too much harder to implement for the JMX ports either, it
 would likely just need use of some custom RMIServerSocketFactory
 implementations, something we already do for other reasons (e.g
 QpidSslRMIServerSocketFactory to allow use of SSL config other than the
JVM
 default)

 The bit I was speaking to earlier is that the interfaces JMX listens on
are
 completely distinct from the single IP/host it can actually advertise
the
 JMXConnectorServer as being available at in the registry.


 
  If we patch up the HTTP management then all you'll need to do is
change
 the
  initial config file to be populated with something like
bindingAddress:
  ${openshift.app_ip} and then modify the qpid start script to set
that
  config parameter from the environment.
 
 
 You can pass -Dfoo=bar type values via the QPID_OPTS environment
variable
 the script makes available.


  Obviously if you are giving the users access to the http management
then
  they might try to do things like add more ports to the broker, and
then
 if
  they don't similarly restrict themselves to binding to only their
given
  address then you'd get conflicts... You could - I imagine prevent this
  either through locking down the Qpid config somewhat, or maybe at the
 Linux
  level...
 
  If you're willing to run a patched version of the code I can probably
 send
  you a patch by tmr which will allow the HTTP port to be bound to a
 specific
  address in the same way that the AMQP port is.
 
  Hope this helps,
  Rob
 
 
  On 20 December 2013 00:26, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
kcrum...@cisco.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi Keith, Rob.
  
   Thank you for your replies.
   I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a
 PaaS
   instance in a linux container.
  
   Scenario is
   User creates app: test in namespace test
   domain is example.com
   so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
   node1.example.com
   So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an
 entry:
   test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
   This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP
 which
   will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which
would
   just steal the port from the host machine.
   So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
   Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would
 also
   be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com
machine.
   This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists
on a
   linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add
qpid
 to
   the app.
  
   So right now what would happen is, the main server,
node1.example.comis
   running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with
an
   invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not
seem
  to
   be the proper way to handle the problem?
  
   Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective
apps..
 It
   seems that it'd be better to bind to the same ports on different IPs
 then
   to different ports on the same IP.
  
   Any thoughts?
  
   On 12/19/13 5:18 PM, Keith W keith.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hello Kyle,
   
   Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
   particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use
the
   Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
   address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the
Broker
   for that change to take effect.
   
   The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.
   
   
  
 
 

Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2014-01-06 Thread Rob Godfrey
So, when I'm developing I normally just start up the broker with

build/bin/qpid-server

from the qpid/java root.

From there you can either configure the IP through the config file or using
the web UI for the server.  The difference is that the HTTP port should now
allow binding address as an option (as the AMQP port does).  As previously
this isn't going to fix the JMX port, so JMS management will have to be
disabled.

Hope this helps,
Rob


On 6 January 2014 18:31, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) kcrum...@cisco.comwrote:

 Hi Rob, Sorry for the really late reply / hope you remember this thread.

 I got some assistance from the irc. I pulled the latest source using svn
 checkout http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid/trunk/qpid qpid
 Then I ran patch -i QPID-5437.patch --dry-run -p0 in the Java branch.
 The patch seemed successful. From there I did an ant build and got the
 file qpid-all.jar
 Looking for where I would go from here to get this running and bound to a
 different IP?

 I am finding that when I run it there is no main class specified.

 On 12/19/13 6:11 PM, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5437 and attached
 a
 quick patch to allow for HTTP ports to be bound to a speicifc address in
 the same way that AMQP ports are.  The patch is against the head of trunk
 rather than 0.22, though I don't imagine it'd be too difficult to get it
 to
 apply to that version.
 
 Hope this helps,
 Rob
 
 
 On 20 December 2013 00:51, Robbie Gemmell robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On 19 December 2013 23:36, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   So it looks like it will be a completely trivial fix to allow the HTTP
  port
   to bind to different interfaces... the JMX (as Robbie says) not so
  much...
   however if you don't need the JMX management plugin you can disable
 it.
  
 
  It shouldnt be too much harder to implement for the JMX ports either, it
  would likely just need use of some custom RMIServerSocketFactory
  implementations, something we already do for other reasons (e.g
  QpidSslRMIServerSocketFactory to allow use of SSL config other than the
 JVM
  default)
 
  The bit I was speaking to earlier is that the interfaces JMX listens on
 are
  completely distinct from the single IP/host it can actually advertise
 the
  JMXConnectorServer as being available at in the registry.
 
 
  
   If we patch up the HTTP management then all you'll need to do is
 change
  the
   initial config file to be populated with something like
 bindingAddress:
   ${openshift.app_ip} and then modify the qpid start script to set
 that
   config parameter from the environment.
  
  
  You can pass -Dfoo=bar type values via the QPID_OPTS environment
 variable
  the script makes available.
 
 
   Obviously if you are giving the users access to the http management
 then
   they might try to do things like add more ports to the broker, and
 then
  if
   they don't similarly restrict themselves to binding to only their
 given
   address then you'd get conflicts... You could - I imagine prevent this
   either through locking down the Qpid config somewhat, or maybe at the
  Linux
   level...
  
   If you're willing to run a patched version of the code I can probably
  send
   you a patch by tmr which will allow the HTTP port to be bound to a
  specific
   address in the same way that the AMQP port is.
  
   Hope this helps,
   Rob
  
  
   On 20 December 2013 00:26, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
 kcrum...@cisco.com
   wrote:
  
Hi Keith, Rob.
   
Thank you for your replies.
I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a
  PaaS
instance in a linux container.
   
Scenario is
User creates app: test in namespace test
domain is example.com
so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
node1.example.com
So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an
  entry:
test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP
  which
will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which
 would
just steal the port from the host machine.
So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would
  also
be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com
 machine.
This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists
 on a
linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add
 qpid
  to
the app.
   
So right now what would happen is, the main server,
 node1.example.comis
running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with
 an
invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not
 seem
   to
be the proper way to handle the problem?
   
Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective
 apps..
  It
seems that it'd be 

Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-20 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
Hi Rob,

Thank you a bunch I'm going to give this a try.



On 12/19/13 6:11 PM, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5437 and attached
a
quick patch to allow for HTTP ports to be bound to a speicifc address in
the same way that AMQP ports are.  The patch is against the head of trunk
rather than 0.22, though I don't imagine it'd be too difficult to get it
to
apply to that version.

Hope this helps,
Rob


On 20 December 2013 00:51, Robbie Gemmell robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 19 December 2013 23:36, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

  So it looks like it will be a completely trivial fix to allow the HTTP
 port
  to bind to different interfaces... the JMX (as Robbie says) not so
 much...
  however if you don't need the JMX management plugin you can disable
it.
 

 It shouldnt be too much harder to implement for the JMX ports either, it
 would likely just need use of some custom RMIServerSocketFactory
 implementations, something we already do for other reasons (e.g
 QpidSslRMIServerSocketFactory to allow use of SSL config other than the
JVM
 default)

 The bit I was speaking to earlier is that the interfaces JMX listens on
are
 completely distinct from the single IP/host it can actually advertise
the
 JMXConnectorServer as being available at in the registry.


 
  If we patch up the HTTP management then all you'll need to do is
change
 the
  initial config file to be populated with something like
bindingAddress:
  ${openshift.app_ip} and then modify the qpid start script to set
that
  config parameter from the environment.
 
 
 You can pass -Dfoo=bar type values via the QPID_OPTS environment
variable
 the script makes available.


  Obviously if you are giving the users access to the http management
then
  they might try to do things like add more ports to the broker, and
then
 if
  they don't similarly restrict themselves to binding to only their
given
  address then you'd get conflicts... You could - I imagine prevent this
  either through locking down the Qpid config somewhat, or maybe at the
 Linux
  level...
 
  If you're willing to run a patched version of the code I can probably
 send
  you a patch by tmr which will allow the HTTP port to be bound to a
 specific
  address in the same way that the AMQP port is.
 
  Hope this helps,
  Rob
 
 
  On 20 December 2013 00:26, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
kcrum...@cisco.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi Keith, Rob.
  
   Thank you for your replies.
   I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a
 PaaS
   instance in a linux container.
  
   Scenario is
   User creates app: test in namespace test
   domain is example.com
   so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
   node1.example.com
   So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an
 entry:
   test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
   This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP
 which
   will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which
would
   just steal the port from the host machine.
   So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
   Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would
 also
   be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com
machine.
   This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists
on a
   linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add
qpid
 to
   the app.
  
   So right now what would happen is, the main server,
node1.example.comis
   running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with
an
   invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not
seem
  to
   be the proper way to handle the problem?
  
   Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective
apps..
 It
   seems that it'd be better to bind to the same ports on different IPs
 then
   to different ports on the same IP.
  
   Any thoughts?
  
   On 12/19/13 5:18 PM, Keith W keith.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hello Kyle,
   
   Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
   particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use
the
   Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
   address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the
Broker
   for that change to take effect.
   
   The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.
   
   
  
 
 
http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Po
r
   ts.html#Java-Broker-Ports-Configuring
   
   You can't yet specify a binding address for HTTP Management or JMX.
   
   Hope this helps.
   
   
   
   
   On 19 December 2013 21:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
Sorry Kyle,
   
Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not
 the
   Java
broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to
  answer
   for
that component.
   
-Ted
   
   

Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)

I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as 127.1.244.129

The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and will 
need multiple running instances. This is not possible if everything tries to 
bind to localhost:8080.

Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the qpid 
documentation.




Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Gordon Sim

On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:


I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as 127.1.244.129

The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and will 
need multiple running instances. This is not possible if everything tries to 
bind to localhost:8080.

Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the qpid 
documentation.


Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind on.


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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
127.1.244.129

 The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and
will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if everything
tries to bind to localhost:8080.

 Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the
qpid documentation.

Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind
on.


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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Ted Ross

Kyle,

That feature was added in release 0.20 
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using an 
older version.


-Ted

On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:


On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
127.1.244.129

The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and
will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if everything
tries to bind to localhost:8080.

Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the
qpid documentation.

Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind
on.


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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz

On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:

Kyle,

That feature was added in release 0.20
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using an
older version.

-Ted

On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
 Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

 On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
 I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
 127.1.244.129

 The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and
 will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if
everything
 tries to bind to localhost:8080.

 Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the
 qpid documentation.
 Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind
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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Ted Ross

Sorry Kyle,

Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not the 
Java broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to 
answer for that component.


-Ted

On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz

On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:


Kyle,

That feature was added in release 0.20
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using an
older version.

-Ted

On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:


On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
127.1.244.129

The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and
will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if
everything
tries to bind to localhost:8080.

Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the
qpid documentation.

Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind
on.


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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Gordon Sim

On 12/19/2013 09:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz


Sorry, my mistake! I should have realised from the 8080 port.

I'm not sure about setting the interface, but one other way around the 
problem you described is to specify different ports for each of the 
broker instances.


E.g. qpid-server -prop qpid.amqp_port=1 -prop 
qpid.http_port=10001 -prop qpid.rmi_port=10002 -prop 
qpid.jmx_port=10003 -prop qpid.work_dir=/path/to/broker1


then

qpid-server -prop qpid.amqp_port=11000 -prop qpid.http_port=11001 
-prop qpid.rmi_port=11002 -prop qpid.jmx_port=11003 -prop 
qpid.work_dir=/path/to/broker2


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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
Hi gordon. This is an option I considered, but I am actually looking to
bind the host instead of port because I am running this on a PaaS. So
basically it would need to be useable by more than one person on one
machine. They would spin up an app, and add a qpid broker to it.
The PaaS allocates different ip's for applications which exist as CNAME
aliases on the host node. So app name qpid may exist on node: node1 as
qpid with an IP of 127.1.34.2 (random ip) and would need to bind to that
IP. The apps are in linux containers. So I know there is a possibility
here. I was desperately looking through the qpid documentation to see if
there's a way to do this on the java end.

Greatly appreciate the help, though.

Kyle 

On 12/19/13 5:04 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

On 12/19/2013 09:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
 Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
 qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz

Sorry, my mistake! I should have realised from the 8080 port.

I'm not sure about setting the interface, but one other way around the
problem you described is to specify different ports for each of the
broker instances.

E.g. qpid-server -prop qpid.amqp_port=1 -prop
qpid.http_port=10001 -prop qpid.rmi_port=10002 -prop
qpid.jmx_port=10003 -prop qpid.work_dir=/path/to/broker1

then

qpid-server -prop qpid.amqp_port=11000 -prop qpid.http_port=11001
-prop qpid.rmi_port=11002 -prop qpid.jmx_port=11003 -prop
qpid.work_dir=/path/to/broker2

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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Rob Godfrey
Hi Kyle,

the Java Broker uses a number of different ports, depending on which
plugins are enabled.  If I remember correctly there are some ports which
can be bound to only certain interfaces, but others (HTTP and JMX
management) which we cannot so restrict. As well as port conflicts you are
going to want to ensure that if you are running multiple broker instances
on the same server, each has its own locations for config files, password
files, etc.

The Java Broker stores all its configuration in a config file
${qpid.work_dir}/config.json (where ${qpid.work_dir} is the user's home
directory by default).  The initial broker config is taken from a template
inside the broker binaries and ultimately from static defaults (for things
like the HTTP management port being 8080).

The following sections of the documentation are probably useful here:

http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Getting-Started-CommandLine.html
http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Configuring-And-Managing.html#Java-Broker-Configuring-And-Managing-Configuration-Store

Using the above you should be able to see how you can create configurations
so that you avoid port number clashes.

For binding on the same port, this is possible for the AMQP port, but not
for management (JMX or HTTP)... So you'd either need to disable these
plugins (and have no easy way to manage your broker) or have different
ports for each interface.

For the AMQP port you need to set the bindingAddress parameter for the
port, e.g.:

{
authenticationProvider : passwordFile,
bindingAddress : 192.168.105.83,
id : 7236a3e5-9e74-440b-888b-2fdfcbe21695,
name : AMQP,
port : 5672
  }

is how that section looks in my config file right now on one broker I'm
running, while the other broker instance had a different bindingAddress.

I'm aware of people who are doing similar things for PaaS type
infrastructures who basically use a template initial config and then write
out different concrete values for the ports/etc for the initial config file
to be used for each new instance of a broker that is created.  After you'd
run your script to genearte the template for the new instance, you'd then
start up the broker with the --initial-config-path option to point at your
newly generated template. You might also want to consider other aspects
you's want in your initial config (such as authentication mechanisms, etc.).

I'm not sure whether there's any way we can fix the HTTP or JMX ports in
future ... possibly more of a chance with the HTTP management... but I'd
need to look into how jetty does its binding.

Hope this helps,
Rob


(As an aside: one enhancement here that would be really useful for these
PaaS scenarios (and I know someone raised a JIRA for it previously) is to
have some sort of mDNS registration in the broker so that a new instance's
ports could be resolved by name rather than having to add a separate
mechanism to propogoate the port numbers in use by an instance to clients
which wish to connect... however that doesn't exist yet).




On 19 December 2013 22:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:

 Sorry Kyle,

 Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not the Java
 broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to answer for
 that component.

 -Ted


 On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
 qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz

 On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:

  Kyle,

 That feature was added in release 0.20
 (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using an
 older version.

 -Ted

 On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

 On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

  On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
 127.1.244.129

 The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and
 will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if
 everything
 tries to bind to localhost:8080.

 Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the
 qpid documentation.

 Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind
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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Keith W
Hello Kyle,

Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use the
Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the Broker
for that change to take effect.

The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.

http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Ports.html#Java-Broker-Ports-Configuring

You can't yet specify a binding address for HTTP Management or JMX.

Hope this helps.




On 19 December 2013 21:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
 Sorry Kyle,

 Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not the Java
 broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to answer for
 that component.

 -Ted


 On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
 qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz

 On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:

 Kyle,

 That feature was added in release 0.20
 (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using an
 older version.

 -Ted

 On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

 On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
 127.1.244.129

 The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS and
 will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if
 everything
 tries to bind to localhost:8080.

 Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in the
 qpid documentation.

 Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will bind
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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Robbie Gemmell
It is not currently possible to specify an interface for the Java brokers
HTTP ports to bind (though it could be made possible...), it is only
possible to specify the port number currently. It does not bind just
localhost, it will listen on all interfaces.

Same for the JMX ports (though with the subtle restriction that even though
it listens on all interfaces JMX itself only supports advertising a single
ip/host for the JMXConnectorServer stub, without performing some extreme
compatibility-breaking hackery that is).

It is possible to configure an interface for the AMQP ports...

...I'm going to stop now as I see Rob and Keith have said everything I was
planning on. Thanks :)

Robbie

On 19 December 2013 23:07, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) kcrum...@cisco.comwrote:

 Hi gordon. This is an option I considered, but I am actually looking to
 bind the host instead of port because I am running this on a PaaS. So
 basically it would need to be useable by more than one person on one
 machine. They would spin up an app, and add a qpid broker to it.
 The PaaS allocates different ip's for applications which exist as CNAME
 aliases on the host node. So app name qpid may exist on node: node1 as
 qpid with an IP of 127.1.34.2 (random ip) and would need to bind to that
 IP. The apps are in linux containers. So I know there is a possibility
 here. I was desperately looking through the qpid documentation to see if
 there's a way to do this on the java end.

 Greatly appreciate the help, though.

 Kyle

 On 12/19/13 5:04 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 12/19/2013 09:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
  Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
  qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz
 
 Sorry, my mistake! I should have realised from the 8080 port.
 
 I'm not sure about setting the interface, but one other way around the
 problem you described is to specify different ports for each of the
 broker instances.
 
 E.g. qpid-server -prop qpid.amqp_port=1 -prop
 qpid.http_port=10001 -prop qpid.rmi_port=10002 -prop
 qpid.jmx_port=10003 -prop qpid.work_dir=/path/to/broker1
 
 then
 
 qpid-server -prop qpid.amqp_port=11000 -prop qpid.http_port=11001
 -prop qpid.rmi_port=11002 -prop qpid.jmx_port=11003 -prop
 qpid.work_dir=/path/to/broker2
 
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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto)
Hi Keith, Rob.

Thank you for your replies.
I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a PaaS
instance in a linux container.

Scenario is 
User creates app: test in namespace test
domain is example.com
so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
node1.example.com
So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an entry:
test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP which
will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which would
just steal the port from the host machine.
So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would also
be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com machine.
This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists on a
linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add qpid to
the app.

So right now what would happen is, the main server, node1.example.com is
running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with an
invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not seem to
be the proper way to handle the problem?

Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective apps.. It
seems that it'd be better to bind to the same ports on different IPs then
to different ports on the same IP.

Any thoughts?

On 12/19/13 5:18 PM, Keith W keith.w...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Kyle,

Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use the
Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the Broker
for that change to take effect.

The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.

http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Por
ts.html#Java-Broker-Ports-Configuring

You can't yet specify a binding address for HTTP Management or JMX.

Hope this helps.




On 19 December 2013 21:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
 Sorry Kyle,

 Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not the
Java
 broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to answer
for
 that component.

 -Ted


 On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
 qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz

 On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:

 Kyle,

 That feature was added in release 0.20
 (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using
an
 older version.

 -Ted

 On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface

 On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:

 I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
 127.1.244.129

 The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS
and
 will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if
 everything
 tries to bind to localhost:8080.

 Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in
the
 qpid documentation.

 Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will
bind
 on.


 
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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Rob Godfrey
So it looks like it will be a completely trivial fix to allow the HTTP port
to bind to different interfaces... the JMX (as Robbie says) not so much...
however if you don't need the JMX management plugin you can disable it.

If we patch up the HTTP management then all you'll need to do is change the
initial config file to be populated with something like bindingAddress:
${openshift.app_ip} and then modify the qpid start script to set that
config parameter from the environment.

Obviously if you are giving the users access to the http management then
they might try to do things like add more ports to the broker, and then if
they don't similarly restrict themselves to binding to only their given
address then you'd get conflicts... You could - I imagine prevent this
either through locking down the Qpid config somewhat, or maybe at the Linux
level...

If you're willing to run a patched version of the code I can probably send
you a patch by tmr which will allow the HTTP port to be bound to a specific
address in the same way that the AMQP port is.

Hope this helps,
Rob


On 20 December 2013 00:26, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) kcrum...@cisco.comwrote:

 Hi Keith, Rob.

 Thank you for your replies.
 I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a PaaS
 instance in a linux container.

 Scenario is
 User creates app: test in namespace test
 domain is example.com
 so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
 node1.example.com
 So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an entry:
 test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
 This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP which
 will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which would
 just steal the port from the host machine.
 So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
 Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would also
 be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com machine.
 This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists on a
 linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add qpid to
 the app.

 So right now what would happen is, the main server, node1.example.com is
 running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with an
 invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not seem to
 be the proper way to handle the problem?

 Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective apps.. It
 seems that it'd be better to bind to the same ports on different IPs then
 to different ports on the same IP.

 Any thoughts?

 On 12/19/13 5:18 PM, Keith W keith.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Kyle,
 
 Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
 particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use the
 Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
 address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the Broker
 for that change to take effect.
 
 The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.
 
 
 http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Por
 ts.html#Java-Broker-Ports-Configuring
 
 You can't yet specify a binding address for HTTP Management or JMX.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 
 On 19 December 2013 21:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
  Sorry Kyle,
 
  Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not the
 Java
  broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to answer
 for
  that component.
 
  -Ted
 
 
  On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
 
  Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
  qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz
 
  On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  Kyle,
 
  That feature was added in release 0.20
  (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be using
 an
  older version.
 
  -Ted
 
  On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
 
  Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option: --interface
 
  On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
 
  I am just curious if there is a way to bind qpid to an IP such as
  127.1.244.129
 
  The reason I ask is I'm looking to deploy many instances to a PaaS
 and
  will need multiple running instances. This is not possible if
  everything
  tries to bind to localhost:8080.
 
  Does anyone know of a way to configure this? I could not find in
 the
  qpid documentation.
 
  Yes, you can use --interface to restrict the interfaces qpidd will
 bind
  on.
 
 
 
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Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Robbie Gemmell
On 19 December 2013 23:36, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

 So it looks like it will be a completely trivial fix to allow the HTTP port
 to bind to different interfaces... the JMX (as Robbie says) not so much...
 however if you don't need the JMX management plugin you can disable it.


It shouldnt be too much harder to implement for the JMX ports either, it
would likely just need use of some custom RMIServerSocketFactory
implementations, something we already do for other reasons (e.g
QpidSslRMIServerSocketFactory to allow use of SSL config other than the JVM
default)

The bit I was speaking to earlier is that the interfaces JMX listens on are
completely distinct from the single IP/host it can actually advertise the
JMXConnectorServer as being available at in the registry.



 If we patch up the HTTP management then all you'll need to do is change the
 initial config file to be populated with something like bindingAddress:
 ${openshift.app_ip} and then modify the qpid start script to set that
 config parameter from the environment.


You can pass -Dfoo=bar type values via the QPID_OPTS environment variable
the script makes available.


 Obviously if you are giving the users access to the http management then
 they might try to do things like add more ports to the broker, and then if
 they don't similarly restrict themselves to binding to only their given
 address then you'd get conflicts... You could - I imagine prevent this
 either through locking down the Qpid config somewhat, or maybe at the Linux
 level...

 If you're willing to run a patched version of the code I can probably send
 you a patch by tmr which will allow the HTTP port to be bound to a specific
 address in the same way that the AMQP port is.

 Hope this helps,
 Rob


 On 20 December 2013 00:26, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) kcrum...@cisco.com
 wrote:

  Hi Keith, Rob.
 
  Thank you for your replies.
  I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a PaaS
  instance in a linux container.
 
  Scenario is
  User creates app: test in namespace test
  domain is example.com
  so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
  node1.example.com
  So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an entry:
  test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
  This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP which
  will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which would
  just steal the port from the host machine.
  So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
  Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would also
  be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com machine.
  This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists on a
  linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add qpid to
  the app.
 
  So right now what would happen is, the main server, node1.example.com is
  running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with an
  invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not seem
 to
  be the proper way to handle the problem?
 
  Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective apps.. It
  seems that it'd be better to bind to the same ports on different IPs then
  to different ports on the same IP.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  On 12/19/13 5:18 PM, Keith W keith.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello Kyle,
  
  Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
  particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use the
  Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
  address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the Broker
  for that change to take effect.
  
  The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.
  
  
 
 http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Por
  ts.html#Java-Broker-Ports-Configuring
  
  You can't yet specify a binding address for HTTP Management or JMX.
  
  Hope this helps.
  
  
  
  
  On 19 December 2013 21:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
   Sorry Kyle,
  
   Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not the
  Java
   broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to
 answer
  for
   that component.
  
   -Ted
  
  
   On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
  
   Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar:
   qpid-java-broker-0.22.tar.gz
  
   On 12/19/13 3:00 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
  
   Kyle,
  
   That feature was added in release 0.20
   (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-3351).  You may be
 using
  an
   older version.
  
   -Ted
  
   On 12/19/2013 03:15 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
  
   Hi. I did this and I got the error: Unrecognized option:
 --interface
  
   On 12/19/13 12:59 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote:
  
   On 12/19/2013 06:45 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
  
   I am just curious if there 

Re: Way to bind qpid to a different IP?

2013-12-19 Thread Rob Godfrey
I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5437 and attached a
quick patch to allow for HTTP ports to be bound to a speicifc address in
the same way that AMQP ports are.  The patch is against the head of trunk
rather than 0.22, though I don't imagine it'd be too difficult to get it to
apply to that version.

Hope this helps,
Rob


On 20 December 2013 00:51, Robbie Gemmell robbie.gemm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 19 December 2013 23:36, Rob Godfrey rob.j.godf...@gmail.com wrote:

  So it looks like it will be a completely trivial fix to allow the HTTP
 port
  to bind to different interfaces... the JMX (as Robbie says) not so
 much...
  however if you don't need the JMX management plugin you can disable it.
 

 It shouldnt be too much harder to implement for the JMX ports either, it
 would likely just need use of some custom RMIServerSocketFactory
 implementations, something we already do for other reasons (e.g
 QpidSslRMIServerSocketFactory to allow use of SSL config other than the JVM
 default)

 The bit I was speaking to earlier is that the interfaces JMX listens on are
 completely distinct from the single IP/host it can actually advertise the
 JMXConnectorServer as being available at in the registry.


 
  If we patch up the HTTP management then all you'll need to do is change
 the
  initial config file to be populated with something like bindingAddress:
  ${openshift.app_ip} and then modify the qpid start script to set that
  config parameter from the environment.
 
 
 You can pass -Dfoo=bar type values via the QPID_OPTS environment variable
 the script makes available.


  Obviously if you are giving the users access to the http management then
  they might try to do things like add more ports to the broker, and then
 if
  they don't similarly restrict themselves to binding to only their given
  address then you'd get conflicts... You could - I imagine prevent this
  either through locking down the Qpid config somewhat, or maybe at the
 Linux
  level...
 
  If you're willing to run a patched version of the code I can probably
 send
  you a patch by tmr which will allow the HTTP port to be bound to a
 specific
  address in the same way that the AMQP port is.
 
  Hope this helps,
  Rob
 
 
  On 20 December 2013 00:26, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) kcrum...@cisco.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi Keith, Rob.
  
   Thank you for your replies.
   I am actually at a point where I am trying to get qpid running on a
 PaaS
   instance in a linux container.
  
   Scenario is
   User creates app: test in namespace test
   domain is example.com
   so you create this app on your PaaS which exists on your server:
   node1.example.com
   So what will happen is you have a bind server which will create an
 entry:
   test-test.example.com CNAME IN node1.example.com
   This app will be spawned with an attribute OPENSHIFT_APP_TYPE_IP
 which
   will allow the user to bind to that IP instead of 127.0.0.1 which would
   just steal the port from the host machine.
   So for example, test-test.example.com could have an IP 127.1.2.3;
   Another user could create their own app too, say test2 which would
 also
   be allocated a different IP address on the node1.example.com machine.
   This server is then treated as a gateway to your app which exists on a
   linux container. From here I'd want the user to be able to add qpid
 to
   the app.
  
   So right now what would happen is, the main server, node1.example.comis
   running an http interface on port 8080 already. This will fail with an
   invalid port. I know you can configure the port, but that does not seem
  to
   be the proper way to handle the problem?
  
   Say you have 3 users who want to use qpid on their 3 respective apps..
 It
   seems that it'd be better to bind to the same ports on different IPs
 then
   to different ports on the same IP.
  
   Any thoughts?
  
   On 12/19/13 5:18 PM, Keith W keith.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hello Kyle,
   
   Yes, this is supported.  You can make the AMQP port bind to a
   particular interface using the binding address attribute. Use the
   Web Management Console to edit the AMQP port and specify a binding
   address (127.1.244.129 in your case).  Once done, restart the Broker
   for that change to take effect.
   
   The Java Broker docs describe the process of editing the port.
   
   
  
 
 http://qpid.apache.org/releases/qpid-0.22/java-broker/book/Java-Broker-Por
   ts.html#Java-Broker-Ports-Configuring
   
   You can't yet specify a binding address for HTTP Management or JMX.
   
   Hope this helps.
   
   
   
   
   On 19 December 2013 21:18, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote:
Sorry Kyle,
   
Gordon and I are giving you information about the C++ broker, not
 the
   Java
broker.  I will need to defer to one of the Java broker folks to
  answer
   for
that component.
   
-Ted
   
   
On 12/19/2013 04:03 PM, Kyle Crumpton (kcrumpto) wrote:
   
Hi Ted. I am using version 0.22. I actually got qpid from tar: