Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #22553: master branch updated

2011-04-26 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM,  sstri...@racket-lang.org wrote:
 sstrickl has updated `master' from d859642195 to f5de8bdabf.
  http://git.racket-lang.org/plt/d859642195..f5de8bdabf

 =[ 1 Commits ]==

 Directory summary:
  49.9% collects/slatex/private/
  50.0% collects/slatex/

 ~~

 f5de8bd Stevie Strickland sstri...@racket-lang.org 2011-04-26 12:57
 :
 | Move scmxlated source for slatex into private.
 |
 | Anyone using the sole export from slatex.rkt should really be using the
 | functions provided by slatex-wrapper.rkt instead, which I imagine is why
 | this has never been documented.
 :
  R collects/slatex/{ = private}/slatex.rkt (100%)
  M collects/slatex/README                       |    4 ++--
  M collects/slatex/slatex-wrapper.rkt           |    2 +-
  M collects/slatex/tests/test-docs-complete.rkt |    1 -

Any reason not to just document it instead? This code has been
unchanging forever and I don't think we want to break old scripts
whimsically.

Roby

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Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #22553: master branch updated

2011-04-26 Thread Stevie Strickland
On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM,  sstri...@racket-lang.org wrote:
 f5de8bd Stevie Strickland sstri...@racket-lang.org 2011-04-26 12:57
 :
 | Move scmxlated source for slatex into private.
 |
 | Anyone using the sole export from slatex.rkt should really be using the
 | functions provided by slatex-wrapper.rkt instead, which I imagine is why
 | this has never been documented.
 :
  R collects/slatex/{ = private}/slatex.rkt (100%)
  M collects/slatex/README   |4 ++--
  M collects/slatex/slatex-wrapper.rkt   |2 +-
  M collects/slatex/tests/test-docs-complete.rkt |1 -
 
 Any reason not to just document it instead? This code has been
 unchanging forever and I don't think we want to break old scripts
 whimsically.

I would imagine that any old scripts would be using the documented 
slatex-wrapper interface, especially since there's a lot of setup work done in 
that interface that would have to be duplicated otherwise.  Do we have reason 
to believe that people have been using the undocumented 
`slatex::process-main-tex-file' function instead?

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Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #22553: master branch updated

2011-04-26 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Stevie Strickland
sstri...@racket-lang.org wrote:
 On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM,  sstri...@racket-lang.org wrote:
 f5de8bd Stevie Strickland sstri...@racket-lang.org 2011-04-26 12:57
 :
 | Move scmxlated source for slatex into private.
 |
 | Anyone using the sole export from slatex.rkt should really be using the
 | functions provided by slatex-wrapper.rkt instead, which I imagine is why
 | this has never been documented.
 :
  R collects/slatex/{ = private}/slatex.rkt (100%)
  M collects/slatex/README                       |    4 ++--
  M collects/slatex/slatex-wrapper.rkt           |    2 +-
  M collects/slatex/tests/test-docs-complete.rkt |    1 -

 Any reason not to just document it instead? This code has been
 unchanging forever and I don't think we want to break old scripts
 whimsically.

 I would imagine that any old scripts would be using the documented 
 slatex-wrapper interface, especially since there's a lot of setup work done 
 in that interface that would have to be duplicated otherwise.  Do we have 
 reason to believe that people have been using the undocumented 
 `slatex::process-main-tex-file' function instead?

I don't know of people who are, but I think that in situations like
these we should err on the side of not-breaking-code.

In this case, I would document this function as roughly like the
@racketmodname[slatex] library function X, provided here for backwards
compatibility. New code should use X. or similar.

Is that any more difficult than what's been done?

Robby

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Re: [racket-dev] lots of new tests pushed

2011-04-26 Thread Chongkai Zhu

On 4/25/2011 7:00 PM, Robby Findler wrote:

I've just looked over the results from the first complete drdr run and
there were a few files that probably shouldn't have been checked, so
I've pushed something that removes them. (I only made it to the 's's
so I'll continue looking at the output more later.)

If you want help fixing your docs, please ask. If you want to just not
be bothered with this, please just tell me which collection is
bothering you, and I'll remove the check.



I want to just not be bothered with the SRFI docs. AFAICS, all SRFI docs 
are there.


Chongkai



Thanks,
Robby

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu  wrote:

I just pushed tests for all non-racket and non-scheme collections that
makes sure that all of the top-level libraries have their exports
fully documented. I left out info.rkt and tried to drop obviously bad
things from this list, but if you spot problems when drdr complains at
you, please just go edit the file to remove libraries that shouldn't
be there.

Robby


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Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #22553: master branch updated

2011-04-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen

I second your judgment. I think it should be a part of the exercise to exorcise 
such hidden interfaces. 


On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Stevie Strickland wrote:

 On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
 I don't know of people who are, but I think that in situations like
 these we should err on the side of not-breaking-code.
 
 In this case, I would document this function as roughly like the
 @racketmodname[slatex] library function X, provided here for backwards
 compatibility. New code should use X. or similar.
 
 Is that any more difficult than what's been done?
 
 Yes, because it is not roughly like any of those library functions, due to 
 all the setup that is skipped by using it directly.  This function is not 
 documented in Dorai's original documentation for slatex or in our own.  Thus, 
 anyone who has used that function was using an undocumented, unsupported 
 interface.  Part of this exercise, I assumed, was to decide which exports 
 were important to document, and which exports have been unintentionally 
 exported and thus should be unexported or considered `private'.  This looks 
 like a perfect example of the latter, instead of the former.
 
 I'm happy with putting it back and just removing it from the docs check 
 instead, but I figured the move into `private' would make it more clear that 
 this was _not_ something that should be used directly.
 
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[racket-dev] Typed Racket support for Ephemerons

2011-04-26 Thread Eric Dobson
I have added support for ephemerons to Typed Racket, and submitted a pull 
request on Github (https://github.com/plt/racket/pull/5). This patch is 
supposed to fix PR 11633.

Is there anything else I should do to get this patch integrated?

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Re: [racket-dev] Typed Racket support for Ephemerons

2011-04-26 Thread Vincent St-Amour
I've had a quick look at your patch, and it looks good to me. Did you
make sure that all of TR's tests still pass?

I'll pull that and commit it for you.

Vincent



At Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:19:38 -0400,
Eric Dobson wrote:
 
 I have added support for ephemerons to Typed Racket, and submitted a pull 
 request on Github (https://github.com/plt/racket/pull/5). This patch is 
 supposed to fix PR 11633.
 
 Is there anything else I should do to get this patch integrated?
 
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Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #22553: master branch updated

2011-04-26 Thread Robby Findler
OK.

Robby

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Felleisen
matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:

 I second your judgment. I think it should be a part of the exercise to 
 exorcise such hidden interfaces.


 On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Stevie Strickland wrote:

 On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
 I don't know of people who are, but I think that in situations like
 these we should err on the side of not-breaking-code.

 In this case, I would document this function as roughly like the
 @racketmodname[slatex] library function X, provided here for backwards
 compatibility. New code should use X. or similar.

 Is that any more difficult than what's been done?

 Yes, because it is not roughly like any of those library functions, due to 
 all the setup that is skipped by using it directly.  This function is not 
 documented in Dorai's original documentation for slatex or in our own.  
 Thus, anyone who has used that function was using an undocumented, 
 unsupported interface.  Part of this exercise, I assumed, was to decide 
 which exports were important to document, and which exports have been 
 unintentionally exported and thus should be unexported or considered 
 `private'.  This looks like a perfect example of the latter, instead of the 
 former.

 I'm happy with putting it back and just removing it from the docs check 
 instead, but I figured the move into `private' would make it more clear that 
 this was _not_ something that should be used directly.

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Re: [racket-dev] Typed Racket support for Ephemerons

2011-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Eric Dobson eric.n.dob...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have added support for ephemerons to Typed Racket, and submitted a pull 
 request on Github (https://github.com/plt/racket/pull/5). This patch is 
 supposed to fix PR 11633.

All of this looks good, except that `EphemeronTop' is unnecessary.
Since ephemerons are covariant, (Ephemeronof Any) is a supertype of
(Ephemeronof T) for any type T.

Vincent says that he'll change that and push the result.

Thanks!
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Re: [racket-dev] Typed Racket support for Ephemerons

2011-04-26 Thread Eric Dobson
The tests all pass (for me).

-Eric

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Eric Dobson eric.n.dob...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have added support for ephemerons to Typed Racket, and submitted a pull 
 request on Github (https://github.com/plt/racket/pull/5). This patch is 
 supposed to fix PR 11633.

 All of this looks good, except that `EphemeronTop' is unnecessary.
 Since ephemerons are covariant, (Ephemeronof Any) is a supertype of
 (Ephemeronof T) for any type T.

 Vincent says that he'll change that and push the result.

 Thanks!
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[racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Jon Rafkind
Here are some suggested items for the 5.1.1 release announcement. Please
respond with any additions/deletions. The stuff in parentheses are short
git sha1's. Use 'git show 12ab345' to see the commit.

ryan:
  * new ffi/file module (..needs description..) (9bc3457bb)

matthew
  * Removed drscheme, mred, and mred.app although mred for unix still
exists (8d9e10f34e)
  * The installed version of libffi can be used instead of the
distributed version (f3c3bb4441c)
  * `touch' and `future' are safe functions to execute inside futures
(857003378 3bf0f800a76)
  * A new streams library compatible with `for' has been added to the
racket collection as `racket/stream' (e652546bf52)
  * list-box% now supports multi-column (137d96c08917)

eli
  * chrome is a supported browser in drracket (52ca08a8a9a)
  * All 3rd party copyrighted code has had their licenses clarified or
changed to be compatible with the LGPL (f6f7e4eb3502 a3d00a910afb)

robby
  * Added a widget to the status line of DrRacket that can toggle line
numbers (c4e0559db4ca37)
  * The module browser graph is rendered much faster. (e928bd840c02)
  * Added `overlay/align', `underlay/align', `overlay/align/offset' and
'underlay/align/offset' (c1668d894e210)

stephen
  * The stepper now supports lazy racket (da456f2e37e54)

kathy
  * Addition of `define-wish' to the teaching languages and
corresponding addition of support for wishes in test reports and
check-expects (7758f508c56)
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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen

On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote:

 kathy
  * Addition of `define-wish' to the teaching languages and
 corresponding addition of support for wishes in test reports and
 check-expects (7758f508c56)

This wasn't supposed to go in. 
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Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.1, second call

2011-04-26 Thread Ryan Culpepper

On 04/25/2011 01:48 AM, Noel Welsh wrote:

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Ryan Culpepperry...@ccs.neu.edu  wrote:


* Noel Welshnoelwe...@gmail.com
  - Rackunit Tests
  - SRFI Tests
  - Ensure that all claimed srfi's are in the installer and they all
load into racket or drracket (as appropriate)



I'm going to have difficulty doing this in a reasonable timeframe. I'm
on holiday at the moment and working on a project proposal w/ May
deadline in free time. Sorry. FWIW, this code doesn't change very
often and is almost certainly ok.


I just ran the test scripts for Rackunit and the SRFIs without problems, 
so I'm marking your items as done.


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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Eli Barzilay
More things:

Casey:
  - Redex version of Jay's continuation mark transformation (3250ff84)
  - Other redex news?

Vincent:
  - TR's numeric tower is now built from unions of non-overlapping base
types.  (d4c93cc1)

Vincent/Sam: other TR news?

Vincent/Matthew: single precision flonums?

Matthew:
  - `file/resource'?
  - Recent speed thing.

Robby:
- make hard links be version specific (4f165d3b)?
- 2htdp/image news?
- builds on osx 64 bits

James/Matthew: futures news?  (future semaphores, `future' in future,
  more ...)

Generators have formals (generator formals body ...+)

Ryan: `racket/syntax' etc

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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread John Clements

On Apr 26, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote:

 More things:
 
 Casey:
  - Redex version of Jay's continuation mark transformation (3250ff84)
  - Other redex news?
 
 Vincent:
  - TR's numeric tower is now built from unions of non-overlapping base
types.  (d4c93cc1)
 
 Vincent/Sam: other TR news?
 
 Vincent/Matthew: single precision flonums?
 
 Matthew:
  - `file/resource'?
  - Recent speed thing.
 
 Robby:
 - make hard links be version specific (4f165d3b)?
 - 2htdp/image news?
 - builds on osx 64 bits
 
 James/Matthew: futures news?  (future semaphores, `future' in future,
  more ...)
 
 Generators have formals (generator formals body ...+)
 
 Ryan: `racket/syntax' etc

I know that Stephen wanted something on the lazy stepper

John



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Re: [racket-dev] better x86 performance

2011-04-26 Thread Vincent St-Amour
Here are the numbers for Racket, Typed Racket, Gambit and Larceny on
32 bits, and without Larceny on 64 bits.

Overall, we're competitive, but we're losing pretty hard on deriv.

Vincent

fastestgambitlarcenyrackettyped-racketcpstack5715 ms1.1311.461.44dderiv6200 ms1.4811.491.51deriv3096 ms11.343.083.13div7434 ms12.161.161.11fft5903 ms12.011.491.11graphs7656 ms1.471.201.021lattice25863 ms2.0711.501.41maze27678 ms3.643.581.001mazefun11693 ms1.5211.081.06nfa6419 ms1.2611.231.03nqueens6835 ms1.0411.041.07paraffins6950 ms11.951.431.22tak7669 ms1.541.561.001takl7325 ms2.321.641.351triangle8960 ms1.001.1011.09
fastestgambitrackettyped-racketcpstack5332 ms11.501.47dderiv5981 ms11.331.30deriv3064 ms12.372.32div7014 ms11.581.56fft3830 ms11.471.16graphs6794 ms1.221.011lattice27250 ms1.311.061maze27280 ms2.461.041mazefun12295 ms1.101.091nfa6794 ms11.391.15nqueens5651 ms11.211.09paraffins8679 ms11.521.20tak7916 ms11.021.00takl8252 ms1.621.131triangle6862 ms11.211.27


At Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:09:18 -0400,
Vincent St-Amour wrote:
 
 These are impressive speedups!
 
 Given how close we were to the fastest Scheme compilers on some of
 these, that may be enough to give us the lead.
 
 I'll run the benchmarks on different implementations tomorrow.
 
 Vincent
 
 
 At Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:11:21 -0600,
 Matthew Flatt wrote:
  
  The `assoc' example helped focus my attention on a long-unsolved issue
  with JIT-generated code, where non-tail calls from JIT-generated code
  to other JIT-generated code seemed more expensive than they should be.
  This effect showed up in `assq' and `assoc' through a high relative
  cost for calling `assq' or `assoc' on a short list (compared to calling
  the C implementation).
  
  This time, I finally saw what I've been missing: It's crucial to pair
  `call' and `ret' instructions on x86. That won't be news to compiler
  writers; it's a basic fact that I missed along the way.
  
  When the JIT generates a non-tail call from to other code that it
  generates, it sets up the called procedure's frame directly (because
  various computed values are more readily available before jumping to
  the called procedure). After setting up the frame --- including a
  return address --- the target code was reached using `jmp'. Later, the
  `ret' to return from the non-tail call would confuse the processor and
  caused stalls, because the `ret' it wasn't matched with its `call'.
  It's easy enough to put the return address in place using `call' when
  setting up a frame, which exposes the right nesting to the processor.
  
  The enclosed table shows the effect on traditional Scheme
  microbenchmarks. Improvements of 20% are common, and several improve by
  50% or more. It's difficult to say which real code will benefit, but I
  think the improvement is likely to be useful.
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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Ryan Culpepper

On 04/26/2011 03:45 PM, Robby Findler wrote:

I think the only possible ones for me (where me in the first line
really means Carl) that makes it into the big announcement are:

  - PLaneT development links are now version-specific


I think this deserves a mention.

What about parametric contracts? Or other contract changes?

Ryan




  - Added `overlay/align', `underlay/align', `overlay/align/offset' and
'underlay/align/offset' to 2htdp/image

but I'm fine if neither get mentioned.

Robby

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Eli Barzilaye...@barzilay.org  wrote:

More things:

Casey:
  - Redex version of Jay's continuation mark transformation (3250ff84)
  - Other redex news?

Vincent:
  - TR's numeric tower is now built from unions of non-overlapping base
types.  (d4c93cc1)

Vincent/Sam: other TR news?

Vincent/Matthew: single precision flonums?

Matthew:
  - `file/resource'?
  - Recent speed thing.

Robby:
- make hard links be version specific (4f165d3b)?
- 2htdp/image news?
- builds on osx 64 bits

James/Matthew: futures news?  (future semaphores, `future' in future,
  more ...)

Generators have formals (generator formals body ...+)

Ryan: `racket/syntax' etc

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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Ryan Culpepper

The new `racket/syntax' library contains facilities useful for writing
macros. The `syntax/srcloc' and `syntx/location' libraries have been
added for manipulating source locations.

The new `ffi/file' library is useful for writing foreign library
bindings that cooperate with Racket's security guard mechanism.

Ryan


On 04/26/2011 01:46 PM, Jon Rafkind wrote:

Here are some suggested items for the 5.1.1 release announcement. Please
respond with any additions/deletions. The stuff in parentheses are short
git sha1's. Use 'git show 12ab345' to see the commit.

ryan:
   * new ffi/file module (..needs description..) (9bc3457bb)

matthew
   * Removed drscheme, mred, and mred.app although mred for unix still
exists (8d9e10f34e)
   * The installed version of libffi can be used instead of the
distributed version (f3c3bb4441c)
   * `touch' and `future' are safe functions to execute inside futures
(857003378 3bf0f800a76)
   * A new streams library compatible with `for' has been added to the
racket collection as `racket/stream' (e652546bf52)
   * list-box% now supports multi-column (137d96c08917)

eli
   * chrome is a supported browser in drracket (52ca08a8a9a)
   * All 3rd party copyrighted code has had their licenses clarified or
changed to be compatible with the LGPL (f6f7e4eb3502 a3d00a910afb)

robby
   * Added a widget to the status line of DrRacket that can toggle line
numbers (c4e0559db4ca37)
   * The module browser graph is rendered much faster. (e928bd840c02)
   * Added `overlay/align', `underlay/align', `overlay/align/offset' and
'underlay/align/offset' (c1668d894e210)

stephen
   * The stepper now supports lazy racket (da456f2e37e54)

kathy
   * Addition of `define-wish' to the teaching languages and
corresponding addition of support for wishes in test reports and
check-expects (7758f508c56)
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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Ryan Culpepper ry...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
 On 04/26/2011 03:45 PM, Robby Findler wrote:

 I think the only possible ones for me (where me in the first line
 really means Carl) that makes it into the big announcement are:

  - PLaneT development links are now version-specific

 I think this deserves a mention.

 What about parametric contracts? Or other contract changes?

I don't think the one new combinator we have is really going to have
that big of an impact on our programmers (and partly because I think
we don't really have the right answer yet for how to fit things into
Racket  Typed Racket properly).

Robby

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Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v5.1.1, second call

2011-04-26 Thread Noel Welsh
Ok, thanks. That's 90% of the work done.
N.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Ryan Culpepper ry...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
 I just ran the test scripts for Rackunit and the SRFIs without problems, so
 I'm marking your items as done.

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[racket-dev] narrow menus in 5.1

2011-04-26 Thread Jon Rafkind
A user from #scheme on irc said drracket in 5.1 shows narrow menus. His 
system is ubuntu 10.10, the language is Portuguese.


http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=11565
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Re: [racket-dev] release blurb for 5.1.1

2011-04-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen


* The Universe protocol of 5.1 and its predecessors are incompatible. 

(Ouch, this requires a change to the HISTORY. Will push soon.) 
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Re: [racket-dev] narrow menus in 5.1

2011-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
This happens on my system as well, which is Ubuntu 11.04, but it
didn't happen until some point after 5.1, I believe.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jon Rafkind rafk...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
 A user from #scheme on irc said drracket in 5.1 shows narrow menus. His
 system is ubuntu 10.10, the language is Portuguese.

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