Re: [racket-dev] alarm-evt contract

[Matthew Flatt]

It sounds fine to me to change the docs.

At Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:00:03 -0400, Asumu Takikawa wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any reason for the documented contract on `alarm-evt` to
> specify a non-negative real? The function will happily accept negative
> inputs and it seems like that's desirable (if for some reason your
> computer clock is set to before 1970 for a good reason).
> 
> Cheers,
> Asumu

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[racket-dev] alarm-evt contract

[Asumu Takikawa]

Hi all,

Is there any reason for the documented contract on `alarm-evt` to
specify a non-negative real? The function will happily accept negative
inputs and it seems like that's desirable (if for some reason your
computer clock is set to before 1970 for a good reason).

Cheers,
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Re: [racket-dev] [racket] DrRacket Tools/plugins info wanted

[Robby Findler]

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Flatt  wrote:

> Currently, starting with minimal Racket and installing the "drracket"
> package gives you the following tools:
>
>  Browser
>  Check Syntax
>  Graphical Debugger
>  Macro Stepper
>  RackUnit DrRacket integeration
>  Repository Time Stamp
>  Slideshow
>  Version
>
>
Thanks. I think the RackUnit GUI is probably showing up only because
rackunit needs a GUI package separate from the text one (and then drracket
could depend only on the test one). I should look more into the slideshow
and browser ones. The others are either on Stephen's list, or are tiny, I
believe.


> BTW, DrRacket's "Choose Language" dialog should probably adapt better
> to the absence of all teaching languages.
>
>
Ah, thanks. On my list.

Robby


> At Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:01:31 -0500, Robby Findler wrote:
> > [moved to dev@] Would it be something to shoot for with the
> package-based
> > release: only getting a minimal set of tools/plugins (like Stephen's set)
> > when the drracket package is the only one installed (starting from a
> > minimal racket)?
> >
> > Robby
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle <
> > stephen.degabrie...@acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I delete anything that I recognise & don't use, (and leave the stuff I
> > > don't understand alone).
> > >
> > > I remove the teaching languages, slideshow, swindle, lazy.
> > >
> > > If you find racket doesn't launch you can always manually edit the
> > > preferences file.
> > >
> > > My suggested working minimum is
> > > Check Syntax
> > > Graphical Debugger
> > > Macro Stepper
> > >
> > > I like to include RackUnit
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > > [image: Inline image 1]
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen De Gabrielle 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jon Kleiser  >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> On one of my older Macs, DrRacket uses quite some time to launch, and
> I
> > >> wondered if disabling some of the 17 Tools in the Preferences could
> help.
> > >> Before disabling any of these, however, I'd like some info about what
> they
> > >> really do. Looking here didn't make me any wiser:
> > >>  > >>
> > html#%28part._.Tools%29<
> http://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/prefs-explanation.h
> > tml#%28part._.Tools%29>
> > >> >
> > >> ... except that those "tools" are also called "plugins".
> > >>
> > >> I cannot see that this page
> >  >>
> > >> has the info that I'm looking for either.
> > >>
> > >> /Jon
> > >> 
> > >>  Racket Users list:
> > >>  http://lists.racket-lang.org/**users<
> http://lists.racket-lang.org/users>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >   Racket Users list:
> > >   http://lists.racket-lang.org/users
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> --
> > [image/png "image.png"] [~/Desktop & open] [~/Temp & open]
> > .
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Re: [racket-dev] [racket] DrRacket Tools/plugins info wanted

[Matthew Flatt]

Currently, starting with minimal Racket and installing the "drracket"
package gives you the following tools:

 Browser
 Check Syntax
 Graphical Debugger
 Macro Stepper
 RackUnit DrRacket integeration
 Repository Time Stamp
 Slideshow
 Version

BTW, DrRacket's "Choose Language" dialog should probably adapt better
to the absence of all teaching languages.

At Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:01:31 -0500, Robby Findler wrote:
> [moved to dev@] Would it be something to shoot for with the package-based
> release: only getting a minimal set of tools/plugins (like Stephen's set)
> when the drracket package is the only one installed (starting from a
> minimal racket)?
> 
> Robby
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle <
> stephen.degabrie...@acm.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I delete anything that I recognise & don't use, (and leave the stuff I
> > don't understand alone).
> >
> > I remove the teaching languages, slideshow, swindle, lazy.
> >
> > If you find racket doesn't launch you can always manually edit the
> > preferences file.
> >
> > My suggested working minimum is
> > Check Syntax
> > Graphical Debugger
> > Macro Stepper
> >
> > I like to include RackUnit
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Stephen
> > [image: Inline image 1]
> >
> > --
> > Stephen De Gabrielle 
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jon Kleiser wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On one of my older Macs, DrRacket uses quite some time to launch, and I
> >> wondered if disabling some of the 17 Tools in the Preferences could help.
> >> Before disabling any of these, however, I'd like some info about what they
> >> really do. Looking here didn't make me any wiser:
> >>  >> 
> html#%28part._.Tools%29 tml#%28part._.Tools%29>
> >> >
> >> ... except that those "tools" are also called "plugins".
> >>
> >> I cannot see that this page 
> >
> >> has the info that I'm looking for either.
> >>
> >> /Jon
> >> 
> >>  Racket Users list:
> >>  http://lists.racket-lang.org/**users
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >   Racket Users list:
> >   http://lists.racket-lang.org/users
> >
> >
> 
> --
> [image/png "image.png"] [~/Desktop & open] [~/Temp & open]
> .
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Re: [racket-dev] Using new package system: rackunit still pointing to collects?

[Matthew Flatt]

Can you send me the output of `make' in a clean checkout, along with
information about your platform?

Thanks!

At Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:31:57 -0400 (EDT), "J. Ian Johnson" wrote:
> That dies saying it can't find ./if_mach.
> -Ian
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carl Eastlund" 
> To: "J. Ian Johnson" 
> Cc: "dev" 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:26:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [racket-dev] Using new package system: rackunit still pointing 
> to 
> collects?
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, instead you want to run 'make' at the top of the repository. 
> 
> Carl Eastlund 
> 
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> On Jul 29, 2013 12:23 PM, "J. Ian Johnson" < i...@ccs.neu.edu > wrote: 
> 
> 
> I've done a complete nuke of my local racket install, and many things have 
> just 
> broken. The two problems that affect me the most are the disappearance of 
> raco 
> doc and rackunit. 
> Is there a new incantation other than 
> ./configure ; make ; make install 
> in racket/src 
> 
> or am I experiencing growing pains with the package system that need fixing? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> -Ian 
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Re: [racket-dev] Using new package system: rackunit still pointing to collects?

[J. Ian Johnson]

That dies saying it can't find ./if_mach.
-Ian
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From: "Carl Eastlund" 
To: "J. Ian Johnson" 
Cc: "dev" 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:26:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [racket-dev] Using new package system: rackunit still pointing to 
collects?



Yes, instead you want to run 'make' at the top of the repository. 

Carl Eastlund 

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On Jul 29, 2013 12:23 PM, "J. Ian Johnson" < i...@ccs.neu.edu > wrote: 


I've done a complete nuke of my local racket install, and many things have just 
broken. The two problems that affect me the most are the disappearance of raco 
doc and rackunit. 
Is there a new incantation other than 
./configure ; make ; make install 
in racket/src 

or am I experiencing growing pains with the package system that need fixing? 

Thanks, 
-Ian 
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Re: [racket-dev] Using new package system: rackunit still pointing to collects?

[Carl Eastlund]

Yes, instead you want to run 'make' at the top of the repository.

Carl Eastlund

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On Jul 29, 2013 12:23 PM, "J. Ian Johnson"  wrote:

> I've done a complete nuke of my local racket install, and many things have
> just broken. The two problems that affect me the most are the disappearance
> of raco doc and rackunit.
> Is there a new incantation other than
>  ./configure ; make ; make install
> in racket/src
>
> or am I experiencing growing pains with the package system that need
> fixing?
>
> Thanks,
> -Ian
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[racket-dev] Using new package system: rackunit still pointing to collects?

[J. Ian Johnson]

I've done a complete nuke of my local racket install, and many things have just 
broken. The two problems that affect me the most are the disappearance of raco 
doc and rackunit.
Is there a new incantation other than
 ./configure ; make ; make install
in racket/src

or am I experiencing growing pains with the package system that need fixing?

Thanks,
-Ian
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