Re: Product branding

[Alex Harui]

Well, if the window is short, that's a problem.  GitHub is discarding
commits so I'm not sure it makes sense to push a bunch of changes today.
I've just pushed a test commit to see what happens.

I guess I can test building without the flex-sdk repo locally today.

-Alex

On 9/28/17, 10:08 AM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:

>For now, it seems convenient to do a few quick tweaks to the existing code
>(that uses the flex-sdk repo) to get folks like myself up and running with
>a working copy of Royale. Postponing having a way to set up Royale on a
>clean system (which mine is) makes it very difficult for new devs to join
>the project.
>
>The window is short, we can likely get a few former contributors back now
>the dust has settled... I understand that y'all have been working with the
>SDK on a daily basis for years and this might not seem a priority, but if
>setting up a dev machine is anything but dead simple - or at least very
>clear - it will make me less motivated. If I have to guess or ask about
>more than a few steps in getting this set up, you've lost me. So to speak.
>
>EdB
>
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Alex Harui 
>wrote:
>
>> My PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME does not point inside a flex-sdk repo.  It really
>> shouldn't.  We allowed it because some folks wanted to point to an
>>Apache
>> Flex IDE configuration, but Apache Flex works fine when developing
>>without
>> an IDE by pointing PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME elsewhere.  And that's safer since
>> you won't accidentally commit non-Apache bits.
>>
>> In Royale, I think we need to change the build to not need a flex-sdk
>>repo
>> at all and treat Apache Flex as an upstream dependency and work from the
>> latest releases.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/28/17, 8:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> That path to playerglobal should not be in flex-sdk.
>> >
>> >
>> >I was talking about the path in the PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment
>> >variable.
>> >That must point to the Flex SDK directory, but in the current
>>procedure in
>> >the READme, that doesn't exist yet. I'm rewriting the READme (and
>>adding
>> >helper targets in build.xml) to make the task of  a dev-ready Royale
>> >install a bit more streamlined.
>> >
>> >EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: Product branding

[Erik de Bruin]

For now, it seems convenient to do a few quick tweaks to the existing code
(that uses the flex-sdk repo) to get folks like myself up and running with
a working copy of Royale. Postponing having a way to set up Royale on a
clean system (which mine is) makes it very difficult for new devs to join
the project.

The window is short, we can likely get a few former contributors back now
the dust has settled... I understand that y'all have been working with the
SDK on a daily basis for years and this might not seem a priority, but if
setting up a dev machine is anything but dead simple - or at least very
clear - it will make me less motivated. If I have to guess or ask about
more than a few steps in getting this set up, you've lost me. So to speak.

EdB



On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Alex Harui 
wrote:

> My PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME does not point inside a flex-sdk repo.  It really
> shouldn't.  We allowed it because some folks wanted to point to an Apache
> Flex IDE configuration, but Apache Flex works fine when developing without
> an IDE by pointing PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME elsewhere.  And that's safer since
> you won't accidentally commit non-Apache bits.
>
> In Royale, I think we need to change the build to not need a flex-sdk repo
> at all and treat Apache Flex as an upstream dependency and work from the
> latest releases.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/28/17, 8:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:
>
> >>
> >> That path to playerglobal should not be in flex-sdk.
> >
> >
> >I was talking about the path in the PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment
> >variable.
> >That must point to the Flex SDK directory, but in the current procedure in
> >the READme, that doesn't exist yet. I'm rewriting the READme (and adding
> >helper targets in build.xml) to make the task of  a dev-ready Royale
> >install a bit more streamlined.
> >
> >EdB
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> >Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> >T. 06-51952295
> >I.
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>


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Re: Product branding

[Alex Harui]

My PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME does not point inside a flex-sdk repo.  It really
shouldn't.  We allowed it because some folks wanted to point to an Apache
Flex IDE configuration, but Apache Flex works fine when developing without
an IDE by pointing PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME elsewhere.  And that's safer since
you won't accidentally commit non-Apache bits.

In Royale, I think we need to change the build to not need a flex-sdk repo
at all and treat Apache Flex as an upstream dependency and work from the
latest releases.

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 9/28/17, 8:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:

>>
>> That path to playerglobal should not be in flex-sdk.
>
>
>I was talking about the path in the PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment
>variable.
>That must point to the Flex SDK directory, but in the current procedure in
>the READme, that doesn't exist yet. I'm rewriting the READme (and adding
>helper targets in build.xml) to make the task of  a dev-ready Royale
>install a bit more streamlined.
>
>EdB
>
>
>
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>
>Jan Luykenstraat 27
>3521 VB Utrecht
>
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Re: Product branding

[Erik de Bruin]

>
> That path to playerglobal should not be in flex-sdk.


I was talking about the path in the PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable.
That must point to the Flex SDK directory, but in the current procedure in
the READme, that doesn't exist yet. I'm rewriting the READme (and adding
helper targets in build.xml) to make the task of  a dev-ready Royale
install a bit more streamlined.

EdB



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Re: Product branding

[Alex Harui]

That path to playerglobal should not be in flex-sdk.  It could point to an
IDE package of Apache Flex though.

On 9/28/17, 3:48 AM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:

>Nope, I'm still in the READme of the asjs repo, I'm trying to understand
>and fix the circular dependencies in that document...
>
>E.g. in the prerequisites you are supposed to download the
>playerglobal.swc
>and put it in a folder that is only referenced by a relative path... I
>happen to understand that path is in the flex-sdk repo. But then it turns
>out that following the READme, you haven't installed that repo yet, nor is
>it mentioned as a prerequisite.
>
>I'm making adjustments as I go along and will commit them when I'm done.
>
>EdB
>
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Piotr Zarzycki
>
>wrote:
>
>> Erik,
>>
>> Are you going to work on changes in Wiki, that's what are you going to
>>do ?
>>
>> Thanks, Piotr
>>
>> 2017-09-28 11:54 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to get back in the game and that makes me read a lot of the
>> > documentation. Obviously all of it currently refers to Apache FlexJS.
>> >
>> > I would suggest we come up with a new product brand ("RoyaleJS"?) that
>> will
>> > set our efforts apart from previous efforts in the Apache Flex
>>project.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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