Re: [DISCUSS] Java package change before the first ASF release?

[Puja Valiyil]

The only breaking change that I think we have had this far has been the 
artifacts moving to an Apache namespace.  I probably would have voted against 
doing that too.
I guess more importantly, I'd like us to get out a release soon rather than 
keep adding more features in.   Theoretically the next release will be much 
quicker, so holding off isn't like we are putting it off for another year.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik  wrote:
> 
> FYI: There are already a handful of package name changes and other breaking
> refactoring from 3.2.9 to 3.2.10.  This would be along those lines and not
> present any significant API changes.
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:30 AM Puja Valiyil  wrote:
>> 
>> -1 I think we should wait.  I'd like us to have one non-breaking official
>> release on Apache before we start adding changes that will greatly effect
>> end users.  Dramatically changing the Api seems like a bad idea since users
>> will have no choice but to update.
>> 
>> Theoretically once we get past the first release, they would occur on a
>> much more regular period.  So I don't think it's a big deal to wait until
>> we have a 4.0 release, and keep 3.2.10 as the current packaging.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:05 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 fix it before the next RC
>>> 
>>> We'll inconvenience some users now, but I'd rather fix it now, before the
>>> pool of users grows much larger.
>>> 
>>> The issue being that we have a number pull request outstanding, and it
>>> would break those pull requests. So we're somewhat inconveniencing
>>> ourselves.
>>> 
>>> We had some discussion before we moved it to Apache, and decided to hold
>>> off until after the move to Apache.
>>> 
>>> --Aaron
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:09 AM Josh Elser 
>> wrote:
 
 Convention in other Java-based ASF projects is to have a package of
 "org.apache". I was recently reminded that Rya still is using
 "mvm.rya...".
 
 Has there been any discussion about ultimately doing an s/package
 mvm.rya/package org.apache.rya/ in the future?
 
 I wanted to mention it before we got to another release candidate :).
 Long term, it's probably a good idea, but there's a good argument in
 doing a release of Rya at the ASF which maintains the old package name
 for the sake of your users.
 
 - Josh
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Java package change before the first ASF release?

[Aaron D. Mihalik]

FYI: There are already a handful of package name changes and other breaking
refactoring from 3.2.9 to 3.2.10.  This would be along those lines and not
present any significant API changes.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:30 AM Puja Valiyil  wrote:

> -1 I think we should wait.  I'd like us to have one non-breaking official
> release on Apache before we start adding changes that will greatly effect
> end users.  Dramatically changing the Api seems like a bad idea since users
> will have no choice but to update.
>
> Theoretically once we get past the first release, they would occur on a
> much more regular period.  So I don't think it's a big deal to wait until
> we have a 4.0 release, and keep 3.2.10 as the current packaging.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:05 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik 
> wrote:
> >
> > +1 fix it before the next RC
> >
> > We'll inconvenience some users now, but I'd rather fix it now, before the
> > pool of users grows much larger.
> >
> > The issue being that we have a number pull request outstanding, and it
> > would break those pull requests. So we're somewhat inconveniencing
> > ourselves.
> >
> > We had some discussion before we moved it to Apache, and decided to hold
> > off until after the move to Apache.
> >
> > --Aaron
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:09 AM Josh Elser 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Convention in other Java-based ASF projects is to have a package of
> >> "org.apache". I was recently reminded that Rya still is using
> >> "mvm.rya...".
> >>
> >> Has there been any discussion about ultimately doing an s/package
> >> mvm.rya/package org.apache.rya/ in the future?
> >>
> >> I wanted to mention it before we got to another release candidate :).
> >> Long term, it's probably a good idea, but there's a good argument in
> >> doing a release of Rya at the ASF which maintains the old package name
> >> for the sake of your users.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Java package change before the first ASF release?

[Puja Valiyil]

-1 I think we should wait.  I'd like us to have one non-breaking official 
release on Apache before we start adding changes that will greatly effect end 
users.  Dramatically changing the Api seems like a bad idea since users will 
have no choice but to update.

Theoretically once we get past the first release, they would occur on a much 
more regular period.  So I don't think it's a big deal to wait until we have a 
4.0 release, and keep 3.2.10 as the current packaging.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:05 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik  wrote:
> 
> +1 fix it before the next RC
> 
> We'll inconvenience some users now, but I'd rather fix it now, before the
> pool of users grows much larger.
> 
> The issue being that we have a number pull request outstanding, and it
> would break those pull requests. So we're somewhat inconveniencing
> ourselves.
> 
> We had some discussion before we moved it to Apache, and decided to hold
> off until after the move to Apache.
> 
> --Aaron
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:09 AM Josh Elser  wrote:
>> 
>> Convention in other Java-based ASF projects is to have a package of
>> "org.apache". I was recently reminded that Rya still is using
>> "mvm.rya...".
>> 
>> Has there been any discussion about ultimately doing an s/package
>> mvm.rya/package org.apache.rya/ in the future?
>> 
>> I wanted to mention it before we got to another release candidate :).
>> Long term, it's probably a good idea, but there's a good argument in
>> doing a release of Rya at the ASF which maintains the old package name
>> for the sake of your users.
>> 
>> - Josh
>> 

[DISCUSS] Java package change before the first ASF release?

[Josh Elser]

Convention in other Java-based ASF projects is to have a package of 
"org.apache". I was recently reminded that Rya still is using 
"mvm.rya...".


Has there been any discussion about ultimately doing an s/package 
mvm.rya/package org.apache.rya/ in the future?


I wanted to mention it before we got to another release candidate :). 
Long term, it's probably a good idea, but there's a good argument in 
doing a release of Rya at the ASF which maintains the old package name 
for the sake of your users.


- Josh