Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2009-01-11 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen skrev:
 Ceki Gulcu skrev  den 03-10-2008 21:53:
   
 Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent 
 instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger. 
 The 
   
 
 I think the agent instrumentation should not be announced until it is 
 ready.  In that regard I am quite interested in seeing what Real-World 
 Code Ralph can throw at it :)

   
Hi Ceki.

I have spent quite some time figuring out how to handle logging with 
object parameters with rogue toString() implementations and have found 
it too hard for me to get right in code, so I have delegated it to the 
developer using it to exclude these classes from the logging 
configuration (cheap, but works) by saying so in the documentation.

 Also, it is a problem that unless explicitly told not to, also JRE 
 classes are instrumented.  I have considered adding an origin check so 
 that you can disable/enable instrumentation based on which jar it comes 
 from.  Was the stuff you added lately to identify the jar from the 
 patch, hard to work with?
   
I also found a solution to this problem.  Basically it is only 
instrument a class if the slf4j API classes are available to it - that 
has turned out to work well for my real-life situations.

Also it is now robust against objects throwing exceptions when being 
toString'ed, as well as being able to show nested arrays of both objects 
and primitives.

It has taken quite some time but I finally now has this in a state where 
it will work with the multi-threaded real-life legacy applications I 
have at work, so unless you hear otherwise I would like to have it 
announced in the next release of slf4j.

I would appreciate your help in getting the jar file names right in the 
created manifest when you have the time.  I currently hard code them but 
it would be very nice if they could be extracted from the dependencies 
section.

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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-11-15 Thread Ceki Gulcu

Hello Thorbjørn,

Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
 
 What is your current estimate for the 1.5.6 release?

I would like to get logback 0.9.12 out the door first. SLF4J 1.5.6 will come 
later, probably in December.

 /Thorbjørn
 

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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-11-12 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
 The html files on the slf4j site are *not* generated nor transformed. To have 
 the same look and feel, each page includes javascript and css files.

 It is supposed to be extremely easy. Just have a look.

   
Ok.  Glad you kept it simple - it get rather confusing pretty easily.

 Once you modify a page, do

   cd logback-site
   mvn compile site:site

 That's it.

 Depending on the length of your documentation, you could start a new page or 
 alternatively add to the extensions page. As you see fit.
   

Ok.  I thought I only had commit rights in slf4j-ext, so I didn't just 
start playing around with the current files (plus I got it confused with 
the logback files, which didn't exactly help, but I digress...).

I've added an initial draft which hopefully should contain all the stuff 
that is relevant.  For now I've kept it in the single page, but it will 
most likely need to be split later.

What is your current estimate for the 1.5.6 release?

/Thorbjørn

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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-11-11 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
 Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent 
 instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger. 
 The 
   
I believe this is now as good as it is going to get at this point.  I 
still need to write the usage documentation where the actual wording 
depends on the context.  Could you please either provide a template page 
in slf4j-site or tell me how I should do this properly?

As it is together with the XLogger and the profiler it would make 
sense if it was a coherent whole.

Any thoughts?

/Thorbjørn
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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-15 Thread Ceki Gulcu

Yes, it's definitely an error. It was fixed in revision 1188.

Thank you Raplh.

Ralph Goers wrote:
 In writing the doc I noticed that THROWING_MARKER and CATCHING_MARKER 
 both have names of EXCEPTION and also are EXCEPTION_MARKERs, which 
 also has a name of EXCEPTION. Is this an error?

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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-14 Thread Ceki Gulcu

Hello Ralph,

Any progress on this item?

Ralph Goers wrote:
 Yes, that is fine with me.
 
 Ceki Gulcu wrote:
 Hello Ralph,

 There is no hard deadline on the release, although I would like to get it 
 done 
 sometime this week, or early next week. Does that sound feasible to you?

 Ralph Goers wrote:
   
 It depends on how long you want to wait. I'm pretty sure I can get that 
 documented by the end of the weekend.
 

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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-14 Thread Ralph Goers
In writing the doc I noticed that THROWING_MARKER and CATCHING_MARKER 
both have names of EXCEPTION and also are EXCEPTION_MARKERs, which 
also has a name of EXCEPTION. Is this an error?

Ceki Gulcu wrote:
 Hello Ralph,

 Any progress on this item?

 Ralph Goers wrote:
   
 Yes, that is fine with me.

 Ceki Gulcu wrote:
 
 Hello Ralph,

 There is no hard deadline on the release, although I would like to get it 
 done 
 sometime this week, or early next week. Does that sound feasible to you?

 Ralph Goers wrote:
   
   
 It depends on how long you want to wait. I'm pretty sure I can get that 
 documented by the end of the weekend.
 
 

   
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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-06 Thread Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Ceki Gulcu skrev  den 03-10-2008 21:53:
 Are there any remaining tasks? Thorbjørn is still working on agent 
 instrumentation. Ralph has volunteered to add documentation about XLogger. 
 The 
   
I think the agent instrumentation should not be announced until it is 
ready.  In that regard I am quite interested in seeing what Real-World 
Code Ralph can throw at it :)

Also, it is a problem that unless explicitly told not to, also JRE 
classes are instrumented.  I have considered adding an origin check so 
that you can disable/enable instrumentation based on which jar it comes 
from.  Was the stuff you added lately to identify the jar from the 
patch, hard to work with?


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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-06 Thread Ceki Gulcu

Hello Ralph,

There is no hard deadline on the release, although I would like to get it done 
sometime this week, or early next week. Does that sound feasible to you?

Ralph Goers wrote:
 It depends on how long you want to wait. I'm pretty sure I can get that 
 documented by the end of the weekend.
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Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Goers
Yes, that is fine with me.

Ceki Gulcu wrote:
 Hello Ralph,

 There is no hard deadline on the release, although I would like to get it 
 done 
 sometime this week, or early next week. Does that sound feasible to you?

 Ralph Goers wrote:
   
 It depends on how long you want to wait. I'm pretty sure I can get that 
 documented by the end of the weekend.
 
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