Re: svn commit: r1907958 - /subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html

2023-03-02 Thread Karl Fogel

On 02 Mar 2023, Daniel Sahlberg wrote:

Hi,

During the Infra Roundtable yesterday a new self-serve for 
creating
Jira accounts was announced. While I agree with Karl's 20+ year 
old
e-mail about issue creations [1], the self-serve will inevitable 
be

found and accounts will be created even if we don't link to it
ourselves. Thus i'm proposing to add a link to the
reporting-issues.html page. The request to add a reference to a
mailing list discussion is intended to encourage people to 
actually
use the mailing list before creating an issue (and an excuse to 
deny

an account if an issue has not been discussed on-list).


Wow, that is indeed an old email.  By the way, your reference 
accidentally pointed to a staging site -- here's the real URL:


https://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/issues.html#issues

Now, issue trackers have changed a lot since then.  Many modern 
trackers support conversational threads in a mailing-list-like 
way, so some of what that page says isn't as true today as it was 
in 2002.  I still think it's a good idea for people to post on the 
list or in some other non-tracker forum before filing an issue, 
but the argument for why is perhaps weaker now than it used to be.


Thanks for noticing the new self-serve and thinking ahead to the 
adjustment we should make!


Best regards,
-Karl

Please check and feel free to update (in particular any 
grammatical/

spelling errors).

(In the meantime, I've added a few links in the Jira description
pointing to https://subversion.apache.org/reporting-issues.html).

Kind regards,
Daniel

[1] http://svn_staging/docs/community-guide/issues.html#issues

Den tors 2 mars 2023 kl 08:53 skrev :

   Author: dsahlberg
   Date: Thu Mar  2 07:53:12 2023
   New Revision: 1907958
  
   URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1907958=rev

   Log:
   In site/staging:
  
   * reporting-issues.html: Add link to the Jira request account

   self-serve
  
   Modified:

       subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html
  
   Modified: subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html

   URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/staging/
   reporting-issues.html?rev=1907958=1907957=1907958=diff
   =
   =
   --- subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html (original)
   +++ subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html Thu Mar  2
   07:53:12 2023
   @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@
       your own complaints and requests, but in doing so, you'll
   increase
       the likelihood that we'll recognize them as 
   constructive.
  
   +You need to have an account to create issues. If you are

   already
   +   a committer, use your @apache.org account to sign in.
   Otherwise,
   +   you can apply for an account using the https://selfserve.apache.org/jira-account.html;
   +   >Self-serve Portal, please add a reference to the 
   mailing
   +   list discussion in the "Tell us a little [...]" input 
   field

   to
   +   speed up the review process.
  
    

    Handy Dandy Issue Tracker Queries
  
  


Re: svn commit: r1907958 - /subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html

2023-03-02 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:05 AM Daniel Sahlberg
 wrote:
>
> During the Infra Roundtable yesterday a new self-serve for creating Jira 
> accounts was announced.

Thanks for doing that! I meant to notify our dev@ list for those who
didn't see the announcement, but you beat me to it.

> Please check and feel free to update (in particular any grammatical/spelling 
> errors).

I would recommend to just change the comma before please to a period:

>> +   you can apply for an account using the > +   href="https://selfserve.apache.org/jira-account.html;
>> +   >Self-serve Portal, please add a reference to the mailing

So it reads: "Self-serve Portal. Please"

Otherwise, looks good. I agree that people will find the link, so may
as well document it.

Cheers,
Nathan


Re: Initial patch for storing the pristines-on-demand setting in the working copy (Issue 4889)

2023-03-02 Thread Evgeny Kotkov via dev
Evgeny Kotkov  writes:

> While working on the patch, I have stumbled across a couple of issues:
>
> A) `svn upgrade` without arguments fails for a working copy with latest format
>
>   $ svn checkout --compatible-version=1.15 wc
>   $ svn upgrade wc
>   $ svn: E155021: Working copy '…' is already at version 1.15 (format 32)
> and cannot be downgraded to version 1.8 (format 31)

While the work on pristine checksum kinds is blocked by a veto, I took a
look at other things we'd probably want to handle before the release.

I think that the above case qualifies as such, so I made a related improvement
by introducing a new config option and also fixed the described error:

- r1907964 introduces a new `compatible-version` config setting, to allow
  configuring the desired default wc compatibility level globally.

- r1907965 fixes an error when `svn upgrade` is called without any arguments
  for a working copy of the newer format.


Thanks,
Evgeny Kotkov


Re: svn commit: r1907958 - /subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html

2023-03-02 Thread Daniel Sahlberg
Hi,

During the Infra Roundtable yesterday a new self-serve for creating Jira
accounts was announced. While I agree with Karl's 20+ year old e-mail about
issue creations [1], the self-serve will inevitable be found and accounts
will be created even if we don't link to it ourselves. Thus i'm proposing
to add a link to the reporting-issues.html page. The request to add a
reference to a mailing list discussion is intended to encourage people to
actually use the mailing list before creating an issue (and an excuse to
deny an account if an issue has not been discussed on-list).

Please check and feel free to update (in particular any
grammatical/spelling errors).

(In the meantime, I've added a few links in the Jira description pointing
to https://subversion.apache.org/reporting-issues.html).

Kind regards,
Daniel



[1] http://svn_staging/docs/community-guide/issues.html#issues


Den tors 2 mars 2023 kl 08:53 skrev :

> Author: dsahlberg
> Date: Thu Mar  2 07:53:12 2023
> New Revision: 1907958
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1907958=rev
> Log:
> In site/staging:
>
> * reporting-issues.html: Add link to the Jira request account self-serve
>
> Modified:
> subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html
>
> Modified: subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html
> URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html?rev=1907958=1907957=1907958=diff
>
> ==
> --- subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html (original)
> +++ subversion/site/staging/reporting-issues.html Thu Mar  2 07:53:12 2023
> @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@
> your own complaints and requests, but in doing so, you'll increase
> the likelihood that we'll recognize them as constructive.
>
> +You need to have an account to create issues. If you are already
> +   a committer, use your @apache.org account to sign in. Otherwise,
> +   you can apply for an account using the  +   href="https://selfserve.apache.org/jira-account.html;
> +   >Self-serve Portal, please add a reference to the mailing
> +   list discussion in the "Tell us a little [...]" input field to
> +   speed up the review process.
>
>  
>  Handy Dandy Issue Tracker Queries
>
>
>