Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-29 Thread Margaret Leibovic
For Android, we have been discussing building a feature like this around
tab queues (the new open later feature we've been working on), but I
don't know of any desktop plans for something like this.

I agree the UX/product work around this idea could be tricky, so I'm not
sure dev-platform is the right place for this discussion. I would encourage
you to talk to Javaun about new ideas for private browsing, since he's the
product manager leading our private browsing 2.0 initiative.

Margaret



On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 2015-06-23 8:57 PM, Andreas Tolfsen wrote:

 On 23 Jun 2015, at 20:24, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote:

 Le 23 juin 2015 à 19:16, Eric Shepherd esheph...@mozilla.com a écrit :

 I thought we had an open in new private window option when right
 clicking links. Not a total solution but helps.


 My I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc was assuming an
 email client (not webmail), could be IRC, or anything else outside of the
 browser.


 Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating system
 for Firefox?  One for regular Firefox, and one for Firefox in private mode?


 We already have that, but that won't help for Karl's use case.

 The technical work involved in fixing what Karl is asking for is simple.
 The UX we want to expose the feature through is the more interesting
 question IMO.


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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-25 Thread Aaron Klotz

On 2015-06-24 4:27 PM, Nicholas Alexander wrote:


This would be valuable, I think.  We have a (new) flag for opening all 
links in PB mode; this should work with that.  Worth filing a ticket 
(if there is not yet one).


Nick

Filed bug 1177472.
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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-24 Thread Frederik Braun
On 24.06.2015 10:09, Karl Dubost wrote:
 
 Le 23 juin 2015 à 20:57, Andreas Tolfsen a...@mozilla.com a écrit :
 Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating system for 
 Firefox? 
 
 nope. Because only Firefox knows based on your preferences which domains you 
 always want in a private mode silo. Imagine a series of Firefox silos (or 
 buckets), in this bucket I only accept these domains, subdomains. Each silo 
 is unable to communicate with another one. So you are sure that when you 
 surfing a certain domain there will be no spill of your data, tracking, etc.
 
 
 

This reminds me of the great work Sid and Monica (from Firefox Security
Engineering) have done on explaining the notion of Contextual Identity
(http://www.w2spconf.com/2013/papers/s1p2.pdf)
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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-24 Thread Karl Dubost

Le 23 juin 2015 à 20:57, Andreas Tolfsen a...@mozilla.com a écrit :
 Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating system for 
 Firefox? 

nope. Because only Firefox knows based on your preferences which domains you 
always want in a private mode silo. Imagine a series of Firefox silos (or 
buckets), in this bucket I only accept these domains, subdomains. Each silo is 
unable to communicate with another one. So you are sure that when you surfing a 
certain domain there will be no spill of your data, tracking, etc.



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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-24 Thread shine nelson
I don't know if this helps, but I use 2 Firefox Add-ons that do an almost
expected behavior (with respect to the request in this thread).

1. Profilist https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/profilist - creates
multiple profiles.
2. Private Tab https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/private-tab -
adds a Open in New Private Tab / Window context menu option that opens
the links in Private Tab / Window.

No, I didn't create these add-ons and am not trying to promote them for
more downloads. I'm only trying to help.

Hope these satisfies your expectations.

Cheers,
~ shine

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Frederik Braun fbr...@mozilla.com wrote:

 On 24.06.2015 10:09, Karl Dubost wrote:
 
  Le 23 juin 2015 à 20:57, Andreas Tolfsen a...@mozilla.com a écrit :
  Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating
 system for Firefox?
 
  nope. Because only Firefox knows based on your preferences which domains
 you always want in a private mode silo. Imagine a series of Firefox silos
 (or buckets), in this bucket I only accept these domains, subdomains. Each
 silo is unable to communicate with another one. So you are sure that when
 you surfing a certain domain there will be no spill of your data, tracking,
 etc.
 
 
 

 This reminds me of the great work Sid and Monica (from Firefox Security
 Engineering) have done on explaining the notion of Contextual Identity
 (http://www.w2spconf.com/2013/papers/s1p2.pdf)
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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-24 Thread Nicholas Alexander
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Aaron Klotz akl...@mozilla.com wrote:

 I would like to see this as an addition to tab queues: having an option in
 the toast to choose to open the link in a private tab.


This would be valuable, I think.  We have a (new) flag for opening all
links in PB mode; this should work with that.  Worth filing a ticket (if
there is not yet one).

Nick
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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-24 Thread Ehsan Akhgari

On 2015-06-23 8:57 PM, Andreas Tolfsen wrote:

On 23 Jun 2015, at 20:24, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote:

Le 23 juin 2015 à 19:16, Eric Shepherd esheph...@mozilla.com a écrit :

I thought we had an open in new private window option when right clicking 
links. Not a total solution but helps.


My I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc was assuming an email 
client (not webmail), could be IRC, or anything else outside of the browser.


Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating system for 
Firefox?  One for regular Firefox, and one for Firefox in private mode?


We already have that, but that won't help for Karl's use case.

The technical work involved in fixing what Karl is asking for is simple. 
 The UX we want to expose the feature through is the more interesting 
question IMO.


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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-23 Thread Karl Dubost
Eric,

Le 23 juin 2015 à 19:16, Eric Shepherd esheph...@mozilla.com a écrit :
 I thought we had an open in new private window option when right clicking 
 links. Not a total solution but helps.

When you are in the browser already. :)

My I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc was assuming an email 
client (not webmail), could be IRC, or anything else outside of the browser.


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http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-23 Thread Andreas Tolfsen
On 23 Jun 2015, at 20:24, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote:
 Le 23 juin 2015 à 19:16, Eric Shepherd esheph...@mozilla.com a écrit :
 I thought we had an open in new private window option when right clicking 
 links. Not a total solution but helps.
 
 My I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc was assuming an email 
 client (not webmail), could be IRC, or anything else outside of the browser.

Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating system for 
Firefox?  One for regular Firefox, and one for Firefox in private mode?

Nevertheless I can’t help but feel that the plumbing of links by 
pattern/recognition is something which ideally should be handled at the 
program- or OS level, and that a specific set of patterns in Firefox would just 
be a way of mitigating bad design choices on behalf of the OS.

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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-23 Thread Aaron Klotz
I would like to see this as an addition to tab queues: having an option in
the toast to choose to open the link in a private tab.
On Jun 23, 2015 8:58 PM, Andreas Tolfsen a...@mozilla.com wrote:

 On 23 Jun 2015, at 20:24, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote:
  Le 23 juin 2015 à 19:16, Eric Shepherd esheph...@mozilla.com a écrit :
  I thought we had an open in new private window option when right
 clicking links. Not a total solution but helps.
 
  My I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc was assuming an
 email client (not webmail), could be IRC, or anything else outside of the
 browser.

 Is it an option to register two browser handlers in the operating system
 for Firefox?  One for regular Firefox, and one for Firefox in private mode?

 Nevertheless I can’t help but feel that the plumbing of links by
 pattern/recognition is something which ideally should be handled at the
 program- or OS level, and that a specific set of patterns in Firefox would
 just be a way of mitigating bad design choices on behalf of the OS.

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Re: [feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-23 Thread Eric Shepherd
I thought we had an open in new private window option when right clicking 
links. Not a total solution but helps.

Eric Shepherd
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Karl Dubost kdub...@mozilla.com wrote:
 
 Margaret,
 Let's hope it's the appropriate list (or maybe I should just open a bug about 
 it).
 
 For privacy reasons, I would love to have certain domain names (and/or links) 
 opened in specific silos. 
 
 Use case:
 I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc.
 As a user I want all Google Docs links opened automatically in a private 
 window. I can save this preference in a list of domain names where I would 
 love the same behavior. 
 
 
 Currently:
 1. I need to copy the link
 2. open a new private window
 3. paste the link
 
 
 I guess in the consequences for the platform, the link needs to be caught 
 very early on before any HTTP requests are done. 
 
 PS: An additional feature, A private window with privileged access to certain 
 parameters such as login/password which are saved from session to session but 
 only for this specific domain. 
 
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[feature] open certain domains into a private window

2015-06-23 Thread Karl Dubost
Margaret,
Let's hope it's the appropriate list (or maybe I should just open a bug about 
it).

For privacy reasons, I would love to have certain domain names (and/or links) 
opened in specific silos. 

Use case:
I'm reading an email with a link to Google Doc.
As a user I want all Google Docs links opened automatically in a private 
window. I can save this preference in a list of domain names where I would love 
the same behavior. 


Currently:
1. I need to copy the link
2. open a new private window
3. paste the link


I guess in the consequences for the platform, the link needs to be caught very 
early on before any HTTP requests are done. 

PS: An additional feature, A private window with privileged access to certain 
parameters such as login/password which are saved from session to session but 
only for this specific domain. 

-- 
Karl Dubost, Mozilla
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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