Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[jsimmons]

There's a 100% vertical writing mode demo here: 
https://www.chenhuijing.com/zh-type/
(Blog post about it here: 
https://www.chenhuijing.com/blog/chinese-web-typography/#lets-build-a-demo)



On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:39:34 AM UTC-4, masayuki nakano wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently reviewing bug 1358017 which tries to scroll vertical 
> writing mode contents horizontally with vertical mouse wheel operation 
> for some mice which have only vertical wheel and etc.
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1358017
> 
> I'd like to check actual behavior with actual devices on web sites which 
> use vertical writing-mode in real world before making it enabled in 
> release channel.
> 
> Does somebody know some lists of web sites which use vertical 
> writing-mode? Unfortunately, I don't know web sites which use 
> writing-mode heavily even though I usually read web sites written in 
> Japanese...
> 
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> Masayuki Nakano <masay...@d-toybox.com>
> Software Engineer, Mozilla

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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Masayuki Nakano]

On 4/11/2018 4:34 PM, Karl Dubost wrote:

Le 11 avr. 2018 à 15:14, Masayuki Nakano  a écrit :

However, oddly, I cannot show the preview on Firefox nor Nightly. When I click the 
"preview", the website says "saved the preview" but I cannot access the preview 
actually. It might be not available from Japan.

You need to register an account on kobo to see the preview.
Note that the thing is pretty badly implemented in both Chrome and Firefox.


Yeah, I created an account, but I couldn't access the preview UI. Where did you 
click or something to show preview?

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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Karl Dubost]

Le 11 avr. 2018 à 15:14, Masayuki Nakano  a écrit :
> However, oddly, I cannot show the preview on Firefox nor Nightly. When I 
> click the "preview", the website says "saved the preview" but I cannot access 
> the preview actually. It might be not available from Japan.

You need to register an account on kobo to see the preview.
Note that the thing is pretty badly implemented in both Chrome and Firefox. 

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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Masayuki Nakano]

On 4/10/2018 5:27 PM, Brian Birtles wrote:

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:19 AM,  wrote:


Thanks for sharing.

But it's not exactly what is being looked for. We are looking for
websites in an overall vertical writing mode, not ones mixed with
vertical writing text. That is, there should be a horizontal scrollbar
in the page, and the scrollbar controls the page's *major* scrolling
direction.



Did you see this example at the bottom of the page?

e.g. http://info.nicovideo.jp/indies-game-fest/history/

It doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar but it does scroll horizontally.


This is interesting case. This is not what we're looking for, but this 
is a case of web developers trying to fix the issue by themselves. I.e., 
they must be thinking that horizontal scroll isn't useful even if the 
block direction is completely horizontal.


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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Masayuki Nakano]

On 4/10/2018 5:53 PM, Karl Dubost wrote:

Masayuki,

Le 6 avr. 2018 à 17:26, Masayuki Nakano <masay...@d-toybox.com> a écrit :

Does somebody know some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?



Kobo Taiwan for example has preview of books in vertical writing mode.
see https://webcompat.com/issues/14152


Thank you.

However, oddly, I cannot show the preview on Firefox nor Nightly. When I 
click the "preview", the website says "saved the preview" but I cannot 
access the preview actually. It might be not available from Japan.


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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Masayuki Nakano]

On 4/10/2018 4:40 PM, Brian Birtles wrote:

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Masayuki Nakano <masay...@d-toybox.com>
wrote:


Does somebody know some lists of web sites which use vertical
writing-mode? Unfortunately, I don't know web sites which use writing-mode
heavily even though I usually read web sites written in Japanese...



For Japanese there is a list of showcase sites at:

http://tategaki.github.io/


Thank you Brian!

But interestingly and surprisingly, most web pages in the list use 
specifying only a some paragraphs. I.e., main block flow direction is 
top to bottom.


Only hatenablog's template causes horizontal scrollable elements like 
<http://oriha-katten.hatenablog.jp/>. This is what I'm interested in 
currently. Really interesting...


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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Botong Zhao]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:00 PM, <dev-platform-requ...@lists.mozilla.org>
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> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:19 AM, <z...@zjz.name> wrote:
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> > Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > But it's not exactly what is being looked for. We are looking for
> > websites in an overall vertical writing mode, not ones mixed with
> > vertical writing text. That is, there should be a horizontal scrollbar
> > in the page, and the scrollbar controls the page's *major* scrolling
> > direction.
> >
>
> Did you see this example at the bottom of the page?
>
> e.g. http://info.nicovideo.jp/indies-game-fest/history/
>
> It doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar but it does scroll horizontally.
>

Found this one in mongolian script:
http://www.mongolfont.com/mn/computer/history.html

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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Karl Dubost]

Masayuki,

Le 6 avr. 2018 à 17:26, Masayuki Nakano <masay...@d-toybox.com> a écrit :
> Does somebody know some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?


Kobo Taiwan for example has preview of books in vertical writing mode.
see https://webcompat.com/issues/14152



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Re: Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Brian Birtles]

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Masayuki Nakano <masay...@d-toybox.com>
wrote:

> Does somebody know some lists of web sites which use vertical
> writing-mode? Unfortunately, I don't know web sites which use writing-mode
> heavily even though I usually read web sites written in Japanese...
>

For Japanese there is a list of showcase sites at:

http://tategaki.github.io/
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Are there some lists of web sites which use vertical writing-mode?

[Masayuki Nakano]

Hi,

I'm currently reviewing bug 1358017 which tries to scroll vertical 
writing mode contents horizontally with vertical mouse wheel operation 
for some mice which have only vertical wheel and etc.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1358017

I'd like to check actual behavior with actual devices on web sites which 
use vertical writing-mode in real world before making it enabled in 
release channel.


Does somebody know some lists of web sites which use vertical 
writing-mode? Unfortunately, I don't know web sites which use 
writing-mode heavily even though I usually read web sites written in 
Japanese...


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