Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Internationalization (i18n) Working Group and Interest Group

2019-04-10 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:13 PM L. David Baron  wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 2019-04-09 13:55 +0300, Henri Sivonen wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:32 PM L. David Baron  wrote:
> > >
> > > The W3C is proposing revised charters for:
> > >
> > >   Internationalization (i18n) Working Group
> > >   https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
> > >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
> > >   diff from previous charter: 
> > > https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fcore%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
> > >
> > >   Internationalization (i18n) Interest Group
> > >   https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
> > >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
> > >   diff from previous charter: 
> > > https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fig%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
> > >
> > > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> > > Friday, May 3.
> > >
> > > Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> > > say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> > > support or oppose it.  (Absent specific comments, I'd be inclined to
> > > support the charters, because I think the i18n work at W3C has been
> > > generally effective.)
> >
> > Is the WG expected to continue to issue revisions to
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod-norm/ ? The document itself suggests
> > sending comments via GitHub issues. I don't see a charter item that
> > clearly covers the maintenance of this document. Should we ask for an
> > item that ensures that the group is explicitly chartered to continue
> > to maintain this document?
>
> I expect the wording at the start of section 2.1 (Normative
> Specifications) that says:
>
>   The formal documents produced by the Working Group are guidelines,
>   best practices, requirements, and the like. These are best
>   published as Working Group Notes.
>
> probably covers this.  Or does this document not fit within that
> description?

Oops. Sorry. Yes, those sentences cover it. Thanks. (I searched for
the case-insensitive string "note", but somehow I managed to miss the
second sentence you quoted.)

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Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Internationalization (i18n) Working Group and Interest Group

2019-04-09 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2019-04-09 13:55 +0300, Henri Sivonen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:32 PM L. David Baron  wrote:
> >
> > The W3C is proposing revised charters for:
> >
> >   Internationalization (i18n) Working Group
> >   https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
> >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
> >   diff from previous charter: 
> > https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fcore%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
> >
> >   Internationalization (i18n) Interest Group
> >   https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
> >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
> >   diff from previous charter: 
> > https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fig%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
> >
> > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> > Friday, May 3.
> >
> > Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> > say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> > support or oppose it.  (Absent specific comments, I'd be inclined to
> > support the charters, because I think the i18n work at W3C has been
> > generally effective.)
> 
> Is the WG expected to continue to issue revisions to
> https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod-norm/ ? The document itself suggests
> sending comments via GitHub issues. I don't see a charter item that
> clearly covers the maintenance of this document. Should we ask for an
> item that ensures that the group is explicitly chartered to continue
> to maintain this document?

I expect the wording at the start of section 2.1 (Normative
Specifications) that says:

  The formal documents produced by the Working Group are guidelines,
  best practices, requirements, and the like. These are best
  published as Working Group Notes.

probably covers this.  Or does this document not fit within that
description?

-David

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Re: Proposed W3C Charters: Internationalization (i18n) Working Group and Interest Group

2019-04-09 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:32 PM L. David Baron  wrote:
>
> The W3C is proposing revised charters for:
>
>   Internationalization (i18n) Working Group
>   https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
>   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
>   diff from previous charter: 
> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fcore%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
>
>   Internationalization (i18n) Interest Group
>   https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
>   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
>   diff from previous charter: 
> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fig%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
>
> Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> Friday, May 3.
>
> Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
> say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
> support or oppose it.  (Absent specific comments, I'd be inclined to
> support the charters, because I think the i18n work at W3C has been
> generally effective.)

Is the WG expected to continue to issue revisions to
https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod-norm/ ? The document itself suggests
sending comments via GitHub issues. I don't see a charter item that
clearly covers the maintenance of this document. Should we ask for an
item that ensures that the group is explicitly chartered to continue
to maintain this document?

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Proposed W3C Charters: Internationalization (i18n) Working Group and Interest Group

2019-04-08 Thread L. David Baron
The W3C is proposing revised charters for:

  Internationalization (i18n) Working Group
  https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-wg-charter.html
  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
  diff from previous charter: 
https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fcore%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-wg-charter.html

  Internationalization (i18n) Interest Group
  https://www.w3.org/2019/04/proposed-i18n-ig-charter.html
  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Apr/0004.html
  diff from previous charter: 
https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fig%2Fcharter-2016.html=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F04%2Fproposed-i18n-ig-charter.html

Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
Friday, May 3.

Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should
say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should
support or oppose it.  (Absent specific comments, I'd be inclined to
support the charters, because I think the i18n work at W3C has been
generally effective.)

-David

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 What I was walling in or walling out,
 And to whom I was like to give offense.
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