Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Andy Shevchenko
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:
 For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target?
I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for working on jack2, but the
question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far
as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball
name.

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Fedora 14 and firefox

2010-07-20 Thread Eric Tanguy
I read somewhere that firefox 4 would be out in november. Fedora 14 will 
be released at the end of october. So will fedora 14 include firefox 4 ?
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Re: trouble locally reproducing koji build error

2010-07-20 Thread Andreas Schwab
Zach Carter z.car...@f5.com writes:

 Howeverthe question remains, why did it build just fine with the function 
 header as-is on a rawhide machine and in my local mockbuild, but not when the 
 build was run on the koji server?  Some difference in the autotools, g++ 
 compiler, boost?   Any theories?  

Have you tried looking at config.log?

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Christof Damian
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 00:33, Roland McGrath rol...@redhat.com wrote:
 My opinion is that a branch called F-n/master is the nicest thing.
 Actually, all else being equal, I'd probably go for it being called
 fn/master, since gratuitous caps and punctuation in branch names is
 not a normal git convention.  (But I only really care about the
 structure of the names, not the spelling.)

same here. I also prefer lower case. (package names and dist tags are
lower-case too).

I would avoid the magic with HEAD, it might be to confusing.

master might also be confusing, but I can't think of anything better
at the moment. f13/update or f13/release came to mind, but they
are not very good either.
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Re: Booting from SCSI CDROM

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Howarth
On 10/07/10 18:50, Emilio Fernandes wrote:
 Hi all again...

 I have a motherboard that has no entries IDEs only sata.
 When I try to install fedora 8 on this machine by the cdrom, the
 instalation process started normally but when will it start anaconda
 does not find the cdrom:/ks8.cfg. The cdrom is sata. I tried to pass
 multiple arguments to the kernel, such as hda=none, hda=noprobe,
 ide0=noprobe, ide=nodma, max_scsi_luns=1 among other attempts but all
 failed, I wonder if anyone knows some other parameters to the kernel I
 can help.
 The fedora 8 cd's with the vmlinuz and initrd.img of kernel 2.6.23.

Fedora 8 reached its End of Life on 7th January 2009 and as such you're 
unlikely to find any support for it here. Why aren't you trying to 
install a more recent (supported) release?

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2010-07-20 Thread Rawhide Report
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Re: Fedora 14 and firefox

2010-07-20 Thread Chris Jones
It'll come through as an update in the updates repo, I suspect. There
might be a beta version included depending on its stability at the
time of a F14 release I guess.

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Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-20 Thread Cole Robinson
On 07/19/2010 06:41 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:


 In a systemd world we can fix this in a much nicer way:
 libvirtd.service would just have a Wants: iscsid.service in it. That
 way when libvirtd is started iscsid is started too. And if people use
 iscsid in other areas too they can just add a single symlink
 (/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/iscsid.service →
 /lib/systemd/system/iscsid.service) and it is started on boot, regadless
 whether libvirtd is enabled or not.
 
 I'm afraid that is not how the relation between libvirt and
 iscsi-initiator-utils works. I don't know exactly what libvirt needs
 iscsi-initiator-utils for, but I think it does not require
 iscsid to be running. I guess we need to involve one of the
 libvirt guys into this discussion to tell us what exactly libvirt uses
 iscsi-initiator-utils for.
 

Libvirt allows connecting to an iscsi target, using that storage as a local
'libvirt storage pool'. AIUI all libvirt uses is iscsiadm.

Here's a list of commands it can run behind the scenes:

ISCSIADM --mode session
ISCSIADM --mode iface
ISCSIADM --mode iface --interface $IFNAME --op new
ISCSIADM --mode iface --interface $IFNAME --op update --name
iface.initiatorname --value $IQN
ISCSIADM --mode discovery --type sendtargets --portal $PORTAL
ISCSIADM --mode node --portal portal --targetname $TARGETPATH --interface
$IFACE $ACTION
ISCSIADM --mode node --portal portal --targetname $TARGETPATH $ACTION
ISCSIADM --mode session -r $SESSION -R
ISCSIADM --mode discovery --type sendtargets --portal $PORTAL

You can check the relevant code here:

http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=blob;f=src/storage/storage_backend_iscsi.c;hb=HEAD

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Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
  I think the problem was that the iscsid service was on by default, so
  when things like libvirt install it iscsid would always start but many
  times not be needed.
 
  In a systemd world we can fix this in a much nicer way:
  libvirtd.service would just have a Wants: iscsid.service in it. That
  way when libvirtd is started iscsid is started too. And if people use
  iscsid in other areas too they can just add a single symlink
  (/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/iscsid.service →
  /lib/systemd/system/iscsid.service) and it is started on boot, regadless
  whether libvirtd is enabled or not.
 
 I'm afraid that is not how the relation between libvirt and
 iscsi-initiator-utils works. I don't know exactly what libvirt needs
 iscsi-initiator-utils for, but I think it does not require
 iscsid to be running. I guess we need to involve one of the
 libvirt guys into this discussion to tell us what exactly libvirt uses
 iscsi-initiator-utils for.

libvirt doesn't directly care about iscsid at all. It just issues
commands using iscsiadm to login/out of targets  query LUNs, etc.
If iscsiadm requires that iscsid be running in order to work, then
I guess it should activate it when required ?

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Intending to retire xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd package

2010-07-20 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
Hi,

I would like to retire the xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd package before it gets
into F-14.

Kernel based modesetting (KMS) and xorg-x11-drv-ati work really nicely
and radeonhd's upstream appears stalled and has no support for KMS, so I
do not see any advantage to Fedora in carrying a radeonhd package any
more.

If no one wants to pick xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd, I will start following 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
in a few days.

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gathering useful statistics for Package Maintainers

2010-07-20 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello,

we would like to help Package Maintainers to increase public participation in
their activities. We believe that an important step in achieving that is in
rewarding the most active participants with fame in different top
tens, ladders and charts. Therefore we would like to extend the current
Fedora Community website [1] with different statistics regarding user
participation in different areas relevant to your team. We have called
this project Fedora Hall of Fame [2]. This information can then be used
in different newsletters (FWN, etc) to praise the best people and motivate
the others.

The information we hope to receive from you is:
1. What are the most important tools you would like to have tracked?
For example it can be your wiki, mailing lists, Bugzilla, Koji, Bodhi,
Transifex, packages' source code, and so on.
2. What are the most important characteristics you would like to see
gathered? For example: # of wiki edits, # of new bug reports, # of
package updates released, etc. Some of our ideas are at [3].

In short, we're looking for hints which statistical data would help
this team most in evaluating your best contributors.

We can't promise you we will gather exactly the information that you
would like to see. But if you tell us what you need, we can concentrate
on the relevant tasks for you rather than on the irrelevant.

Feel free to ask for any details.[4]

Thanks,
Kamil Páral


[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kparal/Idea:Fedora_Hall_of_Fame
[3] 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kparal/Idea:Fedora_Hall_of_Fame#Hall_of_Fame_proposal
[4] This email was sent to many teams' mailing lists, so it might be
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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 17:07 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: 

 I've been struggling with a particular wrinkle in dist-git, how fedpkg
 is supposed to reliably discover what Fedora release a packager is
 working on.

In other words: How does fedpkg map the currently checked out git HEAD
to a Fedora release? (Unless fedpkg is specifically given a Fedora
release to build for on the command line.) 

 In the CVS world, we used a branch file.  This is OK, but I think it
 would be cleaner if we didn't have to rely upon that.  It's the last
 file that wouldn't be exact across all the Fedora releases if a package
 is kept in sync.  So what I'd like to do is rely upon discovering the
 top level upstream branch, say F-13.  

100% Ack.

 This gets difficult if we allow maintainers to create and operate on
  their own upstream branches (which we should), as I have not found a
  reliable way to work from a local branch to which remote branch it
  tracks to which top level remote branch it was created from.

Is this problem solvable at all? Every merge commit has (at least) two
parents. If you have once merged the F-12 branch into the F-13 branch,
how can fedpkg decide which of the parents was the real one to track
back to?

 One suggestion has been to make use of directory based branching, so
 that any maintainer created branch is in a subdir of a top level branch.

This phrasing might be a little confusing. We are NOT talking about
having different branches' files in different subdirectories on the
filesystem here, like we were doing with the CVS checkouts. We are
talking about branches named like directories (e.g. 'F-13/foo').
  
 EG we'd a user could create an F-13/kernel-2.7 branch, and call it
 whatever they want locally.  fedpkg would be able to work from the local
 branch name to what it tracks (origin/F-13/kernel-2.7) and walk down the
 path from origin/ to discover F-13.  Then fedpkg can assume F-13 for the
 branch and do all the dist conversions and koji target discovery from
 that.  This doesn't put too much restraint on what maintainers call
 their branches, particularly locally.
 
 The wrinkle with the above though is the base top level branch.  When we
 do this with directories, it's not possible to have a simple origin/F-13
 branch that a user could interact with (git checkout F-13 would
 automatically detect that there is an origin/F-13 remote branch and
 setup a local F-13 branch to track it and still allow for an
 F-13/foobar branch.  So we have to make the first base upstream branch
 F-13/something.  One suggested something has been to call it HEAD,
 because git seems to have another short cut that would allow you to do
 git checkout -b origin/F-13 and since it finds an origin/F-13/HEAD it
 will automatically use that.  HEAD seems to be a special name in this
 context.  However it is pointed out that using HEAD here could be
 confusing to people who are more familiar with git and naming
 conventions.  Another suggestion is to call it F-13/master since
 master is a more appropriate and expected name.  However that means
 you can't use the short cut and have to do a full git checkout -b F-13
 origin/F-13/master.  Since you have to use the full path here, we
 aren't bound by the name master and we could name it anything we want,
 something that might make sense to Fedora or dist-git.

I would call it something short and sweet and to the point. Using
F-13/HEAD appears hackish, and does things one might not expect, so I
would be careful with that. 

Whether it is called F-13/master, F-13/koji, or F-13/official, however,
I don't care, as long as it is consistent over all packages.

 Now, these are fairly low details which can be hidden behind fedpkg
 (there is a proposed patch to give fedpkg a 'switch-branch' command that
 will switch you from one to the other, and we can make calls to F-13
 attempt origin/F-13/master or whatever), but I feel that this is a
 detail I shouldn't just decide on my own.  So, I welcome the discussion.

My first idea would be for fedpkg to do something similar to the
following when trying to find out the target to build for:

  0. If --target F-13 is given, use that as target.
 If not, continue.
  1. Determine the current git branch ($origbranch=$curbranch).
  2. Check 'git config branch.$curbranch.fedora-target'.
 If set, use that as target. If not, continue.
  3. Check whether $curbranch starts with F-13/. If so,
 use F-13 as the target. If not, continue.
  4. Check what branch $curbranch is tracking.
 If it tracks one, set curbranch to that branch and
 go to step 2.
 Otherwise, bail out and ask for --target or
 'git config branch.$origbranch.fedora-target' to be set.

This would allow

  * Easy building of the currently checked out branch for all targets
with something like fedpkg mockbuild --target F-13.

  * Easy building of some special local branch for F-13 by default
even if it is not called F-13/foo.

  * Building of branches for the 

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:09:50PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
 
 Seriously?  Nobody has an opinion here?  Or will this just be another
 case of ZOMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS STUPID THING as soon as it rolls out...
 
I'm not around enough right now to be able to test anything :-(.

I also don't really understand the choices you're presenting since they're
based on git conventions that I don't know.  master is just a convention in
git?  HEAD is treated specially but doesn't exist normally in a repository?

I think the only way to do this is to implement one thing and then be
willing to either change that (or let someone else contribute work to change
it) once people use it and tell you ZOMG WHY [...].

That said, I don't think I'd use either HEAD or master as the branch name
since they both have some sort of association with how git itself works
unless the name actually matches 100% with the concept that you're trying to
express here.  When you make a UI choice where a feature has the same name
as another feature but they are onlt 80% compatible you cause problems for
the people that try to do something in that 20% space.  When they switch
from one feature to the other they run into incompatibilities, googling
will turn up the wrong feature, they will ask on IRC and get answers that
concern the wrong feature, etc.  It's better to have a distinct name for
something that is different.

-Toshio


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Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 07/19/2010 08:19 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Rahul Sundarammethe...@gmail.com  wrote:

 It is all listed at

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TillMaas

 Rahul
  

 Thanks mate.

 Chris

I found the following more immediately useful:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/till

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Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 19.07.10 13:52, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote:

 I am noticing the following in F14
 
 type=1400 audit(1279559591.480:31): avc:  denied  { read } for  pid=526
 comm=udevd name=/ dev=autofs ino=9519
 scontext=system_u:system_r:udev_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:autofs_t:s0 tclass=dir
 type=1400 audit(1279559595.968:35): avc:  denied  { read } for  pid=880
 comm=blkid name=/ dev=autofs ino=9522
 scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:autofs_t:s0 tclass=dir
 type=AVC msg=audit(1279559629.289:59): avc:  denied  { read } for
 pid=2013 comm=vgchange name=/ dev=autofs ino=9522
 scontext=system_u:system_r:lvm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:autofs_t:s0 tclass=dir
 type=PATH msg=audit(1279559629.289:59): item=0 name=/dev/mqueue
 inode=9522 dev=00:21 mode=040755 ouid=0 ogid=0 rdev=00:00
 obj=system_u:object_r:autofs_t:s0
 
 These AVC messages indicate lots of daemons that are trying to list the
 contents of a directory labeled autofs_t.  udevd, blkid, vgchange.
 
 Do you have any idea what is going on here?  Am I going to have to allow
 all daemons to list the contents of autofs_t?

Those are the automount directories we install for /dev/mqueue,
/dev/hugepages, /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc, and the other API mounts. On
first access those automount points will be replaced by the actual file
systems. That allows us to make the mounts available right-away without
actually having to load the modules implementing them.

I am not entirely sure though why those processes actually access those
dirs in this case. Maybe they are iterating through the files in /dev?
Smells a bit broken to me.

 Will I have to allow all daemons to list the contents of hugetlbfs_t?

Well, I see no reason why the LVM tools, or udev might need to access
the mqueue or hugetlbfs file system. They should not need access to it.

 Or could these be leaks?

No, unlikely.

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Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
 For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target?
 I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for working on jack2, but the

No problem. Although I was the one collecting the pieces, it was
rather a collective work. Thanks to everyone who is involved. We need
to do some testing now, and clean up the glitches before F-14.

 question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far
 as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball
 name.


I thought about doing that once. Jack1's and jack2's source codes are
distributed on the same website [1],  We know that JACK stands for
Jack-Audio-Connection-Kit.  So there shouldn't be any confusion.

Sadly, there is no unique agreement on the package name across
distribution. As far as I know, we were the only distro distributing
jack1 under the full name jack-audio-connection-kit. There is also a
very different project called jack [2], although we don't have it on
Fedora. This adds more to the subtlety as Mandriva distributes this
jack as just jack.

What do other maintainers think?

Orcan

[1] http://jackaudio.org/download
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Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 20.07.10 16:04, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote:

 I am not entirely sure though why those processes actually access those
 dirs in this case. Maybe they are iterating through the files in /dev?
 Smells a bit broken to me.

OK, the udevd is a result from /lib/udev/devices/ which is copied to
/dev early on boot by udevd. Kay says that this dir reeally should not
be put in /lib/udev/devices/.

Still puzzled why LVM wants with /dev/mqueue though. Anybody from LVM
around who can say something about this?

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Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Andy Shevchenko
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
 question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far
 as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball
 name.

 I thought about doing that once. Jack1's and jack2's source codes are
 distributed on the same website [1],  We know that JACK stands for
 Jack-Audio-Connection-Kit.  So there shouldn't be any confusion.

There is rule in Fedora
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageNamingGuidelines#General_Naming

In our case it's a bit odd. However, I vote to call package in the
same way as main tarball.

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Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Booth
When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was 
fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including 
updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. 
Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.

I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this, 
hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is 
obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it 
hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were 
updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem 
to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...

Here's yum.log from this morning. Can anybody offer any guesses?

Jul 20 09:56:21 Updated: 2:gimp-libs-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:25 Updated: libvirt-client-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:28 Updated: 1:qt-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:30 Updated: 1:qt-sqlite-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:31 Updated: libvirt-python-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:33 Updated: iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.0.872-7.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:34 Updated: ffmpeg-libs-0.6-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:36 Updated: openldap-2.4.21-9.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:37 Updated: v8-2.3.0-1.20100716svn5088.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:38 Updated: m17n-contrib-1.1.10-5.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:56:41 Updated: xsane-common-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:42 Updated: mplayer-common-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:47 Updated: chromium-libs-6.0.467.0-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:48 Updated: 1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:49 Updated: 4:perl-libs-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:50 Updated: 1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:56:52 Updated: 1:perl-Pod-Simple-3.07-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:03 Updated: 4:perl-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:03 Updated: 1:perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.20-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:05 Updated: 4:perl-devel-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:07 Updated: perl-Test-Harness-3.17-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:09 Updated: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.55-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:10 Updated: 1:perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:11 Updated: 1:perl-Package-Constants-0.02-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:11 Updated: 1:perl-IO-Zlib-1.09-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:12 Updated: perl-Archive-Tar-1.62-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:57:32 Updated: selinux-policy-3.7.19-37.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:57:33 Installed: compat-db-headers-4.7.25-15.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:57:36 Updated: papyon-0.4.9-1.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:57:47 Installed: oxygen-icon-theme-4.4.5-1.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:57:48 Updated: xdg-utils-1.0.2-20.20100709.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:02 Updated: 2:gimp-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:03 Updated: flex-static-2.5.35-11.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:04 Updated: smc-fonts-common-4.4-1.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:05 Updated: koji-1.4.0-2.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:06 Updated: flex-2.5.35-11.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:07 Updated: 2:gimp-help-browser-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:08 Updated: xsane-gimp-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:10 Updated: compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:10 Updated: 4:perl-suidperl-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:14 Updated: chromium-6.0.467.0-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:16 Updated: mencoder-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:17 Updated: mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:19 Updated: xsane-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:20 Updated: openldap-clients-2.4.21-9.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:21 Updated: ffmpeg-0.6-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:24 Updated: libvirt-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:30 Updated: 1:qt-x11-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:32 Updated: mysql-libs-5.1.48-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:33 Updated: clutter-1.2.10-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:35 Updated: telepathy-gabble-0.9.11-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:36 Updated: upower-0.9.5-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:38 Updated: libgnomekbd-2.30.2-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:40 Updated: ppp-2.4.5-9.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:41 Updated: cairomm-1.8.4-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:42 Updated: ibus-m17n-1.3.0-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:43 Updated: 3:traceroute-2.0.15-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:44 Updated: xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-17.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:45 Updated: finger-0.17-41.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:46 Updated: farsight2-0.0.20-2.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 09:58:47 Updated: fedora-packager-0.4.2.3-1.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:48 Updated: 
fedora-easy-karma-0-0.7.20100709git561718c8.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:51 Updated: smc-meera-fonts-4.4-1.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:52 Updated: fedora-kde-icon-theme-0.0.2-3.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:58:54 Updated: telepathy-butterfly-0.5.12-1.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:59:58 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.7.19-37.fc13.noarch
Jul 20 09:59:59 Updated: 1:perl-Module-Build-0.3500-114.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 10:00:00 Updated: perl-HTML-Parser-3.66-1.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 10:00:02 Updated: redhat-lsb-4.0-5.fc13.x86_64
Jul 20 10:00:02 Updated: m17n-contrib-maithili-1.1.10-5.fc13.noarch

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Jonathan MERCIER
Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit :
 When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was 
 fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including 
 updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. 
 Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.
 
 I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this, 
 hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is 
 obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it 
 hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were 
 updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem 
 to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...
 
 Here's yum.log from this morning. Can anybody offer any guesses?
 
 Jul 20 09:56:21 Updated: 2:gimp-libs-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:25 Updated: libvirt-client-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:28 Updated: 1:qt-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:30 Updated: 1:qt-sqlite-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:31 Updated: libvirt-python-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:33 Updated: iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.0.872-7.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:34 Updated: ffmpeg-libs-0.6-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:36 Updated: openldap-2.4.21-9.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:37 Updated: v8-2.3.0-1.20100716svn5088.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:38 Updated: m17n-contrib-1.1.10-5.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:56:41 Updated: xsane-common-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:42 Updated: mplayer-common-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:47 Updated: chromium-libs-6.0.467.0-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:48 Updated: 1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:49 Updated: 4:perl-libs-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:50 Updated: 1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:56:52 Updated: 1:perl-Pod-Simple-3.07-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:03 Updated: 4:perl-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:03 Updated: 1:perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.20-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:05 Updated: 4:perl-devel-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:07 Updated: perl-Test-Harness-3.17-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:09 Updated: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.55-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:10 Updated: 1:perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:11 Updated: 1:perl-Package-Constants-0.02-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:11 Updated: 1:perl-IO-Zlib-1.09-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:12 Updated: perl-Archive-Tar-1.62-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:57:32 Updated: selinux-policy-3.7.19-37.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:57:33 Installed: compat-db-headers-4.7.25-15.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:57:36 Updated: papyon-0.4.9-1.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:57:47 Installed: oxygen-icon-theme-4.4.5-1.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:57:48 Updated: xdg-utils-1.0.2-20.20100709.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:02 Updated: 2:gimp-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:03 Updated: flex-static-2.5.35-11.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:04 Updated: smc-fonts-common-4.4-1.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:05 Updated: koji-1.4.0-2.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:06 Updated: flex-2.5.35-11.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:07 Updated: 2:gimp-help-browser-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:08 Updated: xsane-gimp-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:10 Updated: compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:10 Updated: 4:perl-suidperl-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:14 Updated: chromium-6.0.467.0-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:16 Updated: mencoder-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:17 Updated: mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:19 Updated: xsane-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:20 Updated: openldap-clients-2.4.21-9.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:21 Updated: ffmpeg-0.6-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:24 Updated: libvirt-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:30 Updated: 1:qt-x11-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:32 Updated: mysql-libs-5.1.48-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:33 Updated: clutter-1.2.10-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:35 Updated: telepathy-gabble-0.9.11-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:36 Updated: upower-0.9.5-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:38 Updated: libgnomekbd-2.30.2-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:40 Updated: ppp-2.4.5-9.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:41 Updated: cairomm-1.8.4-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:42 Updated: ibus-m17n-1.3.0-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:43 Updated: 3:traceroute-2.0.15-1.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:44 Updated: xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-17.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:45 Updated: finger-0.17-41.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:46 Updated: farsight2-0.0.20-2.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 09:58:47 Updated: fedora-packager-0.4.2.3-1.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:48 Updated: 
 fedora-easy-karma-0-0.7.20100709git561718c8.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:51 Updated: smc-meera-fonts-4.4-1.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:52 Updated: fedora-kde-icon-theme-0.0.2-3.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:58:54 Updated: telepathy-butterfly-0.5.12-1.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:59:58 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.7.19-37.fc13.noarch
 Jul 20 09:59:59 Updated: 1:perl-Module-Build-0.3500-114.fc13.x86_64
 Jul 20 10:00:00 Updated: 

KDE-SIG meeting report (29/2010)

2010-07-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the 
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
 to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 29/2010

Time: 2010-07-20 14:00 UTC

Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-07-20

Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2010-07-20/kde-sig.2010-07-20-14.04.html

Meeting log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-20/kde-
sig.2010-07-20-14.04.log.html
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= Participants =
* Jaroslav Reznik
* Kevin Kofler
* Rex Dieter
* Steven Parrish
* Than Ngo
* Radek Novacek
* kalev
* nucleo
* dgilmore 

and KDEPIM guests ;-)
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= Agenda =
*  topics to discuss:
  o F-14: to kdepim-4.5 or not to kdepim-4.5, that is the question
  o include both plasma-nm and nm-applet on kde spin?
  o cmake macros: drop -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON (by default)? 
* recent bugs:
  o fedora-kde-icon-theme : Inherits=oxygen not working as expected 
[1]

= Summary =
F-14: to kdepim-4.5 or not to kdepim-4.5, that is the question

* AGREED: kde-sig (majority) agrees to not include kdepim-4.5 in F-14
  o but we need strong statement from upstream
+ release schedule
+ stable datastorage (so no data loss while updating)
+ data migration issues solved 

include both plasma-nm and nm-applet on kde spin?

* AGREED: revert recent change to spin-kickstarts, do not include nm-
applet on kde spin
  o it's a non sense to ship both (not easy to switch, space etc.) 
* more testing needed for plasma-nm
  o HELP: kde-sig'ers test test  test plasma-nm 
* what's the minimal functionality? 

cmake macros: drop -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON (by default)?

* AGREED: (majority) NACK'd cmake proposal to drop -
DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON 

fedora-kde-icon-theme : Inherits=oxygen not working as expected

* several reports recently about mimetypes with '?' icons
  o problem with inherit code loading
  o suspect: kdebase-runtime-4.1.1-iconthemes-inherit.patch 

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= Next Meeting =

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2010-07-27

= Links =

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/615621
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Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Booth
On 20/07/10 16:19, Jonathan MERCIER wrote:
 Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit :
 When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was
 fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including
 updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon.
 Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.

 I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this,
 hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is
 obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it
 hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were
 updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem
 to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...

 Here's yum.log from this morning. Can anybody offer any guesses?

...

 you can check this file: ~/.mission-control/accounts/accounts.cfg

That file contains all my account info. Also, I've just discovered 
empathy-debugger, which is full of messages like this:

publish_to_all_am_prepared_cb: Failed to prepare account manager: Failed 
to execute program /usr/libexec/mission-control-5: Success

So the question is, what might have killed mission control?

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Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Matthias Runge
On 07/18/2010 11:05 PM, Till Maas wrote:
 Hi,

 I cannot maintain my packages or handle anything else until further
 notice, because I had an accident.

 Regards
 Till

I'm sorry to hear and get well soon. I hope it's nothing serious.

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Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Jonathan MERCIER
Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:28 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit :
 On 20/07/10 16:19, Jonathan MERCIER wrote:
  Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit :
  When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was
  fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including
  updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon.
  Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.
 
  I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this,
  hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is
  obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it
  hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were
  updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem
  to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...
 
  Here's yum.log from this morning. Can anybody offer any guesses?
 
 ...
 
  you can check this file: ~/.mission-control/accounts/accounts.cfg
 
 That file contains all my account info. Also, I've just discovered 
 empathy-debugger, which is full of messages like this:
 
 publish_to_all_am_prepared_cb: Failed to prepare account manager: Failed 
 to execute program /usr/libexec/mission-control-5: Success
 
 So the question is, what might have killed mission control?
 
 Matt

I think you can open a bug.
you cancheck if file /usr/libexec/mission-control-5 exist but not more.

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Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Brian Pepple
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote:
 When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was
 fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including
 updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon.
 Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.

 I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this,
 hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is
 obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it
 hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were
 updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem
 to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...

Yeah, neither tp-gabble or tp-butterfly should be causing this.
tp-gabble's update only changed where tp-gabble looks for ssl
certificated on Fedora, and tp-butterfly was only a bugfix release. I
saw a bug report similar to this recently, but haven't been able to to
reproduce this.

Later,
/B
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Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Booth
On 20/07/10 17:22, Brian Pepple wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Matthew Boothmbo...@redhat.com  wrote:
 When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was
 fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including
 updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon.
 Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.

 I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this,
 hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is
 obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it
 hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were
 updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem
 to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...

 Yeah, neither tp-gabble or tp-butterfly should be causing this.
 tp-gabble's update only changed where tp-gabble looks for ssl
 certificated on Fedora, and tp-butterfly was only a bugfix release. I
 saw a bug report similar to this recently, but haven't been able to to
 reproduce this.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616506

It seems empathy and everything related to it has lost the ability to 
execute programs.

Matt
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Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:04 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
  For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target?
  I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for working on jack2, but the
 
 No problem. Although I was the one collecting the pieces, it was
 rather a collective work. Thanks to everyone who is involved. We need
 to do some testing now, and clean up the glitches before F-14.
 
  question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far
  as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball
  name.
 
 
 I thought about doing that once. Jack1's and jack2's source codes are
 distributed on the same website [1],  We know that JACK stands for
 Jack-Audio-Connection-Kit.  So there shouldn't be any confusion.
 
 Sadly, there is no unique agreement on the package name across
 distribution. As far as I know, we were the only distro distributing
 jack1 under the full name jack-audio-connection-kit. There is also a
 very different project called jack [2], although we don't have it on
 Fedora. This adds more to the subtlety as Mandriva distributes this
 jack as just jack.
 
 What do other maintainers think?

jack-audio-connection-kit is the official name of the project and it
has been the suggested name for packages - I could try to dig through my
very old email and find an email from Paul on the subject. I have used
that name since 2001 or so (version 0.37) - I may have been one of the
first if not the first to package Jack as part of Planet CCRMA. 

The jack1 tarball is actually named jack-audio-connection-kit, not
jack. As mentioned above jack2 is a different code base that
implements the same official jack API and was developed independently.
Its developer chose to name the tarball jack (I don't know why, we could
ask). 

Who knows what the future could bring. I certainly don't know :-)
When/if jack2 becomes the official jack maybe the tarball will change to
jack-audio-connection-kit. Of jack1 could evolve, supplant the current
jack2 as the next version, and the tarball would still be
jack-audio-connection-kit. I would keep the current name. 

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Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread yunus

 Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 ? 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a ?crit :
  When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was 
  fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including 
  updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. 
  Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.
  
  I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this, 
  hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is 
  obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it 
  hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were 
  updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem 
  to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...
  
  Here's yum.log from this morning. Can anybody offer any guesses?
  
  Jul 20 09:56:21 Updated: 2:gimp-libs-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:25 Updated: libvirt-client-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:28 Updated: 1:qt-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:30 Updated: 1:qt-sqlite-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:31 Updated: libvirt-python-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:33 Updated: iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.0.872-7.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:34 Updated: ffmpeg-libs-0.6-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:36 Updated: openldap-2.4.21-9.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:37 Updated: v8-2.3.0-1.20100716svn5088.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:38 Updated: m17n-contrib-1.1.10-5.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:56:41 Updated: xsane-common-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:42 Updated: mplayer-common-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:47 Updated: chromium-libs-6.0.467.0-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:48 Updated: 1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:49 Updated: 4:perl-libs-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:50 Updated: 1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:56:52 Updated: 1:perl-Pod-Simple-3.07-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:03 Updated: 4:perl-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:03 Updated: 1:perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.20-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:05 Updated: 4:perl-devel-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:07 Updated: perl-Test-Harness-3.17-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:09 Updated: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.55-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:10 Updated: 1:perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:11 Updated: 1:perl-Package-Constants-0.02-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:11 Updated: 1:perl-IO-Zlib-1.09-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:12 Updated: perl-Archive-Tar-1.62-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:57:32 Updated: selinux-policy-3.7.19-37.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:57:33 Installed: compat-db-headers-4.7.25-15.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:57:36 Updated: papyon-0.4.9-1.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:57:47 Installed: oxygen-icon-theme-4.4.5-1.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:57:48 Updated: xdg-utils-1.0.2-20.20100709.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:02 Updated: 2:gimp-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:03 Updated: flex-static-2.5.35-11.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:04 Updated: smc-fonts-common-4.4-1.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:05 Updated: koji-1.4.0-2.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:06 Updated: flex-2.5.35-11.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:07 Updated: 2:gimp-help-browser-2.6.10-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:08 Updated: xsane-gimp-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:10 Updated: compat-db47-4.7.25-15.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:10 Updated: 4:perl-suidperl-5.10.1-114.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:14 Updated: chromium-6.0.467.0-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:16 Updated: mencoder-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:17 Updated: mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:19 Updated: xsane-0.997-10.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:20 Updated: openldap-clients-2.4.21-9.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:21 Updated: ffmpeg-0.6-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:24 Updated: libvirt-0.8.2-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:30 Updated: 1:qt-x11-4.6.3-8.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:32 Updated: mysql-libs-5.1.48-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:33 Updated: clutter-1.2.10-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:35 Updated: telepathy-gabble-0.9.11-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:36 Updated: upower-0.9.5-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:38 Updated: libgnomekbd-2.30.2-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:40 Updated: ppp-2.4.5-9.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:41 Updated: cairomm-1.8.4-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:42 Updated: ibus-m17n-1.3.0-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:43 Updated: 3:traceroute-2.0.15-1.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:44 Updated: xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-17.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:45 Updated: finger-0.17-41.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:46 Updated: farsight2-0.0.20-2.fc13.x86_64
  Jul 20 09:58:47 Updated: fedora-packager-0.4.2.3-1.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:48 Updated: 
  fedora-easy-karma-0-0.7.20100709git561718c8.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:51 Updated: smc-meera-fonts-4.4-1.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:52 Updated: fedora-kde-icon-theme-0.0.2-3.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:58:54 Updated: telepathy-butterfly-0.5.12-1.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:59:58 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.7.19-37.fc13.noarch
  Jul 20 09:59:59 

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote:
 When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was 
 fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including 
 updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. 
 Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.
 
 I can't see anything obvious in yum.log which might have caused this, 
 hence this email rather than a BZ or some negative karma. This is 
 obviously a serious problem which I'd like to see others avoid if it 
 hasn't already escaped updates-testing. The only suspects I had were 
 updates to telepathy-butterfly and telepathy-gabble, but they don't seem 
 to run any scripts. Don't see anything relating to gconf either...
 
 Here's yum.log from this morning. Can anybody offer any guesses?

A handy alternative to looking at the yum.log:

yum history list

then you can see the transactions by date.

then:

yum history info transaction id 

to get a lot of info on what changed.

http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/YumHistory

for more info.

-sv



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[Bug 612875] perl-Class-C3 FTBFS : BuildRequires Self!

2010-07-20 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612875

Mark Chappell trem...@tremble.org.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 07/20/2010 05:52 AM, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 17:07 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: 
 
 I've been struggling with a particular wrinkle in dist-git, how fedpkg
 is supposed to reliably discover what Fedora release a packager is
 working on.
 
 In other words: How does fedpkg map the currently checked out git HEAD
 to a Fedora release? (Unless fedpkg is specifically given a Fedora
 release to build for on the command line.) 

That's right.

 
 In the CVS world, we used a branch file.  This is OK, but I think it
 would be cleaner if we didn't have to rely upon that.  It's the last
 file that wouldn't be exact across all the Fedora releases if a package
 is kept in sync.  So what I'd like to do is rely upon discovering the
 top level upstream branch, say F-13.  
 
 100% Ack.
 
 This gets difficult if we allow maintainers to create and operate on
  their own upstream branches (which we should), as I have not found a
  reliable way to work from a local branch to which remote branch it
  tracks to which top level remote branch it was created from.
 
 Is this problem solvable at all? Every merge commit has (at least) two
 parents. If you have once merged the F-12 branch into the F-13 branch,
 how can fedpkg decide which of the parents was the real one to track
 back to?

I don't think it is solvable, without enforcing some form of naming
convention.

 
 One suggestion has been to make use of directory based branching, so
 that any maintainer created branch is in a subdir of a top level branch.
 
 This phrasing might be a little confusing. We are NOT talking about
 having different branches' files in different subdirectories on the
 filesystem here, like we were doing with the CVS checkouts. We are
 talking about branches named like directories (e.g. 'F-13/foo').

I'm going to make it slightly more confusing here, but bear with me.  As
far as the client is concerned and maintainer checkouts, there will not
be a subdirectory.  These are real git branches and you switch between
them which will update your working copy.  The branches would just be
named with a directory like structure.

Now, on the back end, the git repo server, the git metadata would
actually create a F-13 directory and put things like the master and
other files within that directory.  Clients don't care about this, but
it does make some things convenient when looking at the git repo structure.

There is also a fedpkg command that will setup your git checkouts to
look like it did with CVS, where you have module/devel module/F-13
module/F-12 etc...  and there would be a clone/checkout in each of
those subdirs from the appropriate remote branch.

   
 EG we'd a user could create an F-13/kernel-2.7 branch, and call it
 whatever they want locally.  fedpkg would be able to work from the local
 branch name to what it tracks (origin/F-13/kernel-2.7) and walk down the
 path from origin/ to discover F-13.  Then fedpkg can assume F-13 for the
 branch and do all the dist conversions and koji target discovery from
 that.  This doesn't put too much restraint on what maintainers call
 their branches, particularly locally.

 The wrinkle with the above though is the base top level branch.  When we
 do this with directories, it's not possible to have a simple origin/F-13
 branch that a user could interact with (git checkout F-13 would
 automatically detect that there is an origin/F-13 remote branch and
 setup a local F-13 branch to track it and still allow for an
 F-13/foobar branch.  So we have to make the first base upstream branch
 F-13/something.  One suggested something has been to call it HEAD,
 because git seems to have another short cut that would allow you to do
 git checkout -b origin/F-13 and since it finds an origin/F-13/HEAD it
 will automatically use that.  HEAD seems to be a special name in this
 context.  However it is pointed out that using HEAD here could be
 confusing to people who are more familiar with git and naming
 conventions.  Another suggestion is to call it F-13/master since
 master is a more appropriate and expected name.  However that means
 you can't use the short cut and have to do a full git checkout -b F-13
 origin/F-13/master.  Since you have to use the full path here, we
 aren't bound by the name master and we could name it anything we want,
 something that might make sense to Fedora or dist-git.
 
 I would call it something short and sweet and to the point. Using
 F-13/HEAD appears hackish, and does things one might not expect, so I
 would be careful with that. 
 
 Whether it is called F-13/master, F-13/koji, or F-13/official, however,
 I don't care, as long as it is consistent over all packages.
 
 Now, these are fairly low details which can be hidden behind fedpkg
 (there is a proposed patch to give fedpkg a 'switch-branch' command that
 will switch you from one to the other, and we can make calls to F-13
 attempt origin/F-13/master or whatever), but I 

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 05:30:04PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote:
 It seems empathy and everything related to it has lost the ability to 
 execute programs.

What if you setenforce 0?

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Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-07-20)

2010-07-20 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:41:39PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
 meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
 irc.freenode.net.
 

I must send my regrets for todays meeting, I've got to run an errand
this afternoon and I suspect I won't be back in time. I'll leave my
client idling in the channel and review the logs when I get back.

Apologies for the late notice, it's just come up at the last minute.

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
 That said, I don't think I'd use either HEAD or master as the branch name
 since they both have some sort of association with how git itself works
 unless the name actually matches 100% with the concept that you're trying to
 express here.

This is nothing more or less than our convention for git branch names, so
the generic git conventions for branch names exactly match the concept.


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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
 My first idea would be for fedpkg to do something similar to the
 following when trying to find out the target to build for:
 
   0. If --target F-13 is given, use that as target.
  If not, continue.
   1. Determine the current git branch ($origbranch=$curbranch).
   2. Check 'git config branch.$curbranch.fedora-target'.
  If set, use that as target. If not, continue.
   3. Check whether $curbranch starts with F-13/. If so,
  use F-13 as the target. If not, continue.
   4. Check what branch $curbranch is tracking.
  If it tracks one, set curbranch to that branch and
  go to step 2.
  Otherwise, bail out and ask for --target or
  'git config branch.$origbranch.fedora-target' to be set.

I'd suggested something just about like this.  Jesse is concerned by the
fact that some local state (the .git/config file in your local repo)
affects this.  I think the fear is that you could easily manage to
confuse yourself about what magic cookie is driving your dwim build
target behavior, so another developer you're collaborating with might
end up having a local git repo you both looks the same as yours, but
builds pick a different target.

My first suggestion was not to have the magical leading F-n/
matching at all.  Rather, just have fedpkg front-end commands set and
show the state of branch.SOMEBRANCH.fedora-target settings.  e.g.,
'fedpkg checkout foo' would both do 'git checkout foo' and set the
branch.foo.fedora-target automatically.

I can see both sides of Jesse's point about the extra locally-confusable
magic setting here.


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Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:16:04PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote:
 When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was 
 fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including 
 updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. 
 Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it.
 
  Recently mission control started to crash for me:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615749

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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-07-20)

2010-07-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-07-20)
===

Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:04 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-20/fesco.2010-07-20-19.30.log.html

Meeting summary
---
* init process  (nirik, 19:30:04)
  * kylem notting and mclasen indicated they would be unable to attend
today.  (nirik, 19:30:50)
  * ajax also unable to attend  (nirik, 19:31:43)

* #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
  (nirik, 19:34:51)

* #382 Implementing Stable Release Vision  (nirik, 19:36:57)

* #409 Feature Request: GNUstep  (nirik, 19:41:37)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/GNUstep has some
info  (nirik, 19:42:38)
  * Feature is approved.  (nirik, 19:50:24)

* #423 F14Feature: GoldLinkerDefault -
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GoldLinkerDefault  (nirik,
  19:50:33)
  * will revisit later in the meeting hopefully with jlaw around.
(nirik, 19:52:35)

* #432 Add new FPL to fesco list  (nirik, 19:52:46)
  * AGREED: will re-add stickster for a bit.  (nirik, 19:54:42)

* #439: dist-git rollout plan  (nirik, 19:56:33)
  * LINK: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/webfiles/   (nirik, 20:13:26)
  * AGREED: Go forth and GIT. Move forward at F14 branch time with a
migration.  (nirik, 20:21:00)

* Till Maass unavailable  (nirik, 20:21:39)

* #431 Exception for Recoll bundling other libraries modified  (nirik,
  20:26:21)
  * AGREED: exception granted in this case.  (nirik, 20:29:19)

* #433 F14Feature: CryptographyInKernel -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CryptographyInKernel  (nirik,
  20:29:26)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 20:37:51)

* #434 F14Feature - DNSSEC_on_workstations -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNSSEC_on_workstations
  (nirik, 20:38:32)
  * will ask questions of feature owner and revisit next week.  (nirik,
20:40:57)
  * ACTION: mjg59 to ask for more input on this feature.  (nirik,
20:43:08)

* #435 F14Feature: F14EclipseHelios -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F14EclipseHelios  (nirik,
  20:43:11)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 20:45:39)

* #436 F14Feature: KDE45 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE45
  (nirik, 20:45:45)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 20:47:20)

* #437 F14Feature: MemoryDebuggingTools -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MemoryDebuggingTools  (nirik,
  20:47:27)
  * AGREED: Feature is approved.  (nirik, 20:49:22)

* #438 F14Feature: Ruby_1.87 -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ruby_1.8.7  (nirik, 20:49:29)
  * will gather more info and revisit next week.  (nirik, 20:55:15)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 20:56:03)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.7/MassRebuild
(dmalcolm, 20:57:15)

* Python 2.7 mass rebuild  (nirik, 20:57:15)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.7/MassRebuild
(dmalcolm, 20:57:19)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 21:14:49)

Meeting ended at 21:17:10 UTC.
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19:30:10 mjg59 \o/
19:30:50 nirik #info kylem notting and mclasen indicated they would be unable 
to attend today.
19:31:02 nirik so, hopefully we still have quorum. ;)
19:31:14 pjones ajax is also out
19:31:27 mjg59 Oops.
19:31:43 SMParrish I am here, but expecting a delivery soon so may have to 
jet for a few
19:31:43 nirik #info ajax also unable to attend
19:31:54 nirik so, we never everyone else...
19:32:14 * cwickert is sorry to be late
19:32:14 pjones we what?
19:32:22 Oxf13 hrm.  those are some of the key people I wanted around for the 
dist-git discussion.
19:33:10 pjones so right now it's nirik, smparrish, cwickert, mjg59, and 
pjones?
19:33:11 nirik pjones: in order for 5 of the 9 of us to be present.
19:33:39 nirik yep. Seems we do have 5 folks.
19:33:41 cwickert nirik: I can leave again if you want me to ;)
19:34:06 pjones smparrish only counts as half, right?  since he's going to be 
gone soon anyway?
19:34:07 Southern_Gentlem yep you barely have a quorium (under roberts rules 
of order)
19:34:08 nirik cwickert: would make for a shorter meeting, but please do 
stay. ;)
19:34:11 drago01 which means everyone has veto powers ;)
19:34:38 pjones Southern_Gentlem: we don't actually subscribe to robert's 
rules in any way...
19:34:42 nirik ok, lets go ahead and get started...
19:34:51 nirik #topic #351 Create a policy 

[389-devel] Please Review: (adminserver) Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP

2010-07-20 Thread Nathan Kinder


From 56824d9699ad2f471ac4ec30c24c0600735e42f7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nathan Kinder nkin...@redhat.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:18:00 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP.

When using PerLDAP built against OpenLDAP, the URL parsing works
a bit differently.  This patch makes the Admin Server perl code
work with PerLDAP that uses either OpenLDAP or MozLDAP under the
covers.
---
 admserv/newinst/src/AdminUtil.pm.in |   10 +-
 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/admserv/newinst/src/AdminUtil.pm.in 
b/admserv/newinst/src/AdminUtil.pm.in
index d3808cc..587d408 100644
--- a/admserv/newinst/src/AdminUtil.pm.in
+++ b/admserv/newinst/src/AdminUtil.pm.in
@@ -168,7 +168,15 @@ sub getConfigDSConn {
 my $host = $h-{host};
 my $port = $h-{port};
 my $basedn = $h-{dn};
-if ($h-{options}  LDAP_URL_OPT_SECURE) {
+
+# If PerLDAP was build using OpenLDAP, we must check the URL scheme
+# to see if we're using LDAPS.  If MozLDAP is being used, we need
+# to check for the secure option.
+if ($h-{scheme}) {
+if ($h-{scheme} eq ldaps) {
+$certdir = getCertDir($configdir);
+}
+} elsif ($h-{options}  LDAP_URL_OPT_SECURE) {
 $certdir = getCertDir($configdir);
 }
 
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Re: [389-devel] Please Review: (adminserver) Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP

2010-07-20 Thread Rich Megginson
Nathan Kinder wrote:

 

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Re: [389-devel] Please Review: (adminserver) Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP

2010-07-20 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 07/20/2010 02:27 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
 Nathan Kinder wrote:

 

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Thanks.  Pushed to master.

Counting objects: 11, done.
Delta compression using 2 threads.
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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 09:03 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:09:50PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
  
  Seriously?  Nobody has an opinion here?  Or will this just be another
  case of ZOMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS STUPID THING as soon as it rolls out...
  
 I'm not around enough right now to be able to test anything :-(.
 
 I also don't really understand the choices you're presenting since they're
 based on git conventions that I don't know.  master is just a convention in
 git?  HEAD is treated specially but doesn't exist normally in a repository?
 
 I think the only way to do this is to implement one thing and then be
 willing to either change that (or let someone else contribute work to change
 it) once people use it and tell you ZOMG WHY [...].

Definitely this is where I stand. It's too new and different for me to
have a reliable mental map of it to know what to think.
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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 07/20/2010 03:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 09:03 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:09:50PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:

 Seriously?  Nobody has an opinion here?  Or will this just be another
 case of ZOMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS STUPID THING as soon as it rolls out...

 I'm not around enough right now to be able to test anything :-(.

 I also don't really understand the choices you're presenting since they're
 based on git conventions that I don't know.  master is just a convention in
 git?  HEAD is treated specially but doesn't exist normally in a repository?

 I think the only way to do this is to implement one thing and then be
 willing to either change that (or let someone else contribute work to change
 it) once people use it and tell you ZOMG WHY [...].
 
 Definitely this is where I stand. It's too new and different for me to
 have a reliable mental map of it to know what to think.

Thankfully it's pretty easy to move this stuff around if we need to
after the conversion.  It may break people's existing clones, but those
are cheap.

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Roland McGrath wrote:
 My first suggestion was not to have the magical leading F-n/
 matching at all.  Rather, just have fedpkg front-end commands set and
 show the state of branch.SOMEBRANCH.fedora-target settings.  e.g.,
 'fedpkg checkout foo' would both do 'git checkout foo' and set the
 branch.foo.fedora-target automatically.

+1 to this. After switching from CVS to git for my own projects over the 
course of the past year I am beginning to see the high value in 
branching with git. Linus' suggestion of using branches everywhere is 
something hard to grasp at first but it is the right direction.

Here's one nice feature I'd like to see for a simple scenario of when 
upstream releases a new stable version:

1. Edit the 'master' branch spec file.
2. git commit my change.
3. git rebase my F-* branches to master.
4. Submit my builds!

Keeping separate directories per release seems cumbersome and I just 
submitted my first package yesterday. You guys have been doing far too 
much work with the current method of package upkeep. :P
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Outage: Updates - 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC

2010-07-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
There will be an outage starting at 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC, which will
last approximately 3 hours. Outages will be small but noticeable for
small segments as systems are updated and rebooted.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:

date -d '2010-07-21 16:00 UTC'

Reason for outage: Updates to xen and other critical packages require
rebooting servers to take effect.

Affected Services:

BFO - http://boot.fedoraproject.org/
Bodhi - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/
Buildsystem - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/
CVS / Source Control
DNS - ns1.fedoraproject.org, ns2.fedoraproject.org
Docs - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/
Email system
Fedora Account System - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/
Fedora Hosted - https://fedorahosted.org/
Fedora People - http://fedorapeople.org/
Fedora Talk - http://talk.fedoraproject.org/
Main Website - http://fedoraproject.org/
Mirror List - https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/
Mirror Manager - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/
Package Database - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/
Smolt - http://smolts.org/
Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
Start - http://start.fedoraproject.org/
Torrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
Translation Services - http://translate.fedoraproject.org/
Wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Unaffected Services:

Ticket Link:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2280

Contact Information:

Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to
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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 07/20/2010 03:32 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 Roland McGrath wrote:
 My first suggestion was not to have the magical leading F-n/
 matching at all.  Rather, just have fedpkg front-end commands set and
 show the state of branch.SOMEBRANCH.fedora-target settings.  e.g.,
 'fedpkg checkout foo' would both do 'git checkout foo' and set the
 branch.foo.fedora-target automatically.
 
 +1 to this. After switching from CVS to git for my own projects over the 
 course of the past year I am beginning to see the high value in 
 branching with git. Linus' suggestion of using branches everywhere is 
 something hard to grasp at first but it is the right direction.
 
 Here's one nice feature I'd like to see for a simple scenario of when 
 upstream releases a new stable version:
 
 1. Edit the 'master' branch spec file.
 2. git commit my change.
 3. git rebase my F-* branches to master.
 4. Submit my builds!
 
 Keeping separate directories per release seems cumbersome and I just 
 submitted my first package yesterday. You guys have been doing far too 
 much work with the current method of package upkeep. :P

I think you've misunderstood the proposal.  There won't be separate
directories per release, just separate branches.  The branch names will
look like they have directory structure though, which will help
programatically detect the Fedora target.

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Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Rafael Aquini
Hello all,

Sundarammethe...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  It is all listed at
 
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TillMaas


Despite I'm don't have sponsorship yet, I'd like to help as much as I can.
If it is possible, I'd like to be co-maintainer of some packages of yours.

Regards and I hope you get well very soon Till!

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Partial mass rebuild for Python 2.7 coming soon (I hope)

2010-07-20 Thread David Malcolm
I'm planning to do a partial mass-rebuild for Python 2.7.

This would cover all Python 2 users within the distribution, roughly
1000 src.rpms.

Some notes can be seen at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.7/MassRebuild

I hoped to start this tomorrow (2010-07-21) at 16:00 UTC, but it looks
like I need to wait until at least after the outage that's due for that
time [1]. Further, I'm still waiting to hear back to see if the build
should be done with the gold linker, rather than gnu-ld [2].  I will
delay the build until after a decision is made on this.

This may mean that I'll wait until 2010-07-22.

Some areas of uncertainty remain:
- the script to do this, as written, assumes no build ordering is
needed.  I know that some ordering is needed, and plan to manually order
the first four builds which I hope is the bulk of it, but it's not clear
to me if more is needed; I'm running some tests to try to better
determine this.

Hope this makes sense
Dave

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2280
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GoldLinkerDefault


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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 17:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

 Here's one nice feature I'd like to see for a simple scenario of when 
 upstream releases a new stable version:
 
 1. Edit the 'master' branch spec file.
 2. git commit my change.
 3. git rebase my F-* branches to master.
 4. Submit my builds!

Uhm. Rebase, i.e. rewriting branch history, and requiring a git push
-f to force non-fast-forward merging of the public branches? Is that
really a good idea?

I would have presumed something like (using pseudo names for the
branches)

  F-13 --o-m
  /
  master O
  \
  F-12 -o--m

if you are keeping F-12 and F-13 in sync or

  devel  ---O
 \
  F-13   -m
   \
  F-12   ---m

if you are keeping all three branches devel, F-13, F-12 in sync.

A subsequent push (without -f) of the F-13 and F-12 (and devel in the
second case) branches and a build request would conclude the process.

BTW, while typing the above, I have noted that master or devel or
f13 are quite easy to type, while F-13 with capital letter and
hyphen is relatively complicated. Perhaps that could be an argument when
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Re: Partial mass rebuild for Python 2.7 coming soon (I hope)

2010-07-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:02 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
 I'm planning to do a partial mass-rebuild for Python 2.7.


Please, when you hit build failures, and you will if you can
provide a link to a failure report that is easily searchable(if not
sorted by) primary package owner.  That will help me,help you, do any
clean up for packages I have some modicum of clue about and feel
accountable for.

Good luck.

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Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 15:42 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

 Perhaps someone could put together a wiki page for lazy sysadmins with
 a QA? ie, I used to do this in upstart/sysvinit, how do I do it with
 systemd?

 Jóhann Guðmundsson (viking_ice) has been working on something along
 these lines:

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd

 it was mentioned in the QA meeting a few weeks back.

I have a few requests for things to add to that page :-)

* What replaces chkconfig
* What replaces /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME start | stop ?

Similarly, for packaging guidelines updates, how do we install
packages that provide services and have them not start up?

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Iain Arnell
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Christof Damian chris...@damian.net wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 00:33, Roland McGrath rol...@redhat.com wrote:
 My opinion is that a branch called F-n/master is the nicest thing.
 Actually, all else being equal, I'd probably go for it being called
 fn/master, since gratuitous caps and punctuation in branch names is
 not a normal git convention.  (But I only really care about the
 structure of the names, not the spelling.)

 same here. I also prefer lower case. (package names and dist tags are
 lower-case too).


+1 for lower-case branch names without punctuation.

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 7/20/2010 19:13, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote:
 BTW, while typing the above, I have noted that master or devel or
 f13 are quite easy to type, while F-13 with capital letter and
 hyphen is relatively complicated. Perhaps that could be an argument when
 choosing branch names.

Using names like f13, el5, and so forth would also keep dist-git 
consistent with git branch naming conventions.  If we were to do 
something like that we might as well just use the value of %{dist}.

If rawhide development is supposed to happen on origin/master, then how 
do branches for rawhide work?  Does fedpkg just default to building for 
rawhide when a branch doesn't appear in a release's branch namespace?
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Reminder: Fedora 14 Feature Freeze is Next Week (2010-07-27)

2010-07-20 Thread John Poelstra
It's hard to believe, but the window for full blown feature development 
closes soon.  A friendly reminder that next Tuesday, July 27, 2010 is 
Feature Freeze for Fedora 14.

Feature Freeze means that all accepted feature for the release are 
*significantly* feature complete, ready for testing, and have a 
current status.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Policy.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Milestones#Feature_Freeze

If you have any questions about what this means, please ask now.

Features which are not significantly feature complete at Feature Freeze 
will be be allowed to remain on an exception basis by FESCo or deferred 
to Fedora 15.

Thank you,
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Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:04 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
  question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far
  as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball
  name.
 

 I thought about doing that once. Jack1's and jack2's source codes are
 distributed on the same website [1],  We know that JACK stands for
 Jack-Audio-Connection-Kit.  So there shouldn't be any confusion.


 jack-audio-connection-kit is the official name of the project and it
 has been the suggested name for packages.

Yes. Therefore I think we are safe from the guidelines' point of view:
When naming a package, the name should match the upstream tarball or
project name from which this software came.
from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageNamingGuidelines#General_Naming

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Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
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On 07/20/2010 08:55 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
 On 7/20/2010 19:13, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote:
 BTW, while typing the above, I have noted that master or devel or
 f13 are quite easy to type, while F-13 with capital letter and
 hyphen is relatively complicated. Perhaps that could be an argument when
 choosing branch names.
 
 Using names like f13, el5, and so forth would also keep dist-git 
 consistent with git branch naming conventions.  If we were to do 
 something like that we might as well just use the value of %{dist}.

That was going to be my next question, although that would bring back
the c in fc13 and fc14 since that's what the dist value is.  We could
bite the bullet and change the dist value to remove the c, and just
manually keep track of making sure that builds on older releases won't
be newer than builds on the newer branches.  not sure if we want to go
through that pain at this point.

 
 If rawhide development is supposed to happen on origin/master, then how 
 do branches for rawhide work?  Does fedpkg just default to building for 
 rawhide when a branch doesn't appear in a release's branch namespace?

Yes. Branches of rawhide would be of the form origin/branch so if we
don't find one of our expected f(c)??,el?,olpc? we default to building
for rawhide.


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Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/20 Andy Shevchenko andy.shevche...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:
 For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target?
 I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for working on jack2, but the
 question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far
 as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball
 name.

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Package name jack conflicts with some other opensource softwares,
it'll better to persuade jack-audio-connection-kit upstream to avoid
of using jack as package name.

FYI, debian use jackd2 as package name for jack-audio-connection-kit 2.

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dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
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It was suggested to keep the Makefile that exists in every package
module/branch in CVS right now, but set it up so that any Make command
issued would print a reminder to the user that the Make system has been
retired and to use fedpkg.  I could use some word smithing on this
message.  What I have right now is this:

$ make tag
Make system retired, please use fedpkg.  See fedpkg --help

Suggestions on what to put in here?

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Re: dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 22:38 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
 $ make tag
 Make system retired, please use fedpkg.  See fedpkg --help
 
 Suggestions on what to put in here?
Might be nice to already print the equivalent command:

$ make tag
Make system retired, please use fedpkg. 
The equivalent function is: 
For more information see fedpkg --help

But that might be a bit long though.

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rpms/perl-Class-Autouse/devel perl-Class-Autouse.spec,1.19,1.20

2010-07-20 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Class-Autouse/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv18031

Modified Files:
perl-Class-Autouse.spec 
Log Message:
* Tue Jul 20 2010 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1.29-9
- Reenable pmv test.



Index: perl-Class-Autouse.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Class-Autouse/devel/perl-Class-Autouse.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.19
retrieving revision 1.20
diff -u -p -r1.19 -r1.20
--- perl-Class-Autouse.spec 5 May 2010 11:17:18 -   1.19
+++ perl-Class-Autouse.spec 20 Jul 2010 06:49:58 -  1.20
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:  perl-Class-Autouse
 Version:   1.29
-Release:   8%{?dist}
+Release:   9%{?dist}
 Summary:   Run-time class loading on first method call
 License:   GPL+ or Artistic
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -49,8 +49,6 @@ chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 %check
-# remove until fix of Perl::MinimalVersion and version.pm
-rm -rf t/99_pmv.t
 make test AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
 
 %files
@@ -60,6 +58,9 @@ make test AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 20 2010 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1.29-9
+- Reenable pmv test.
+
 * Fri Apr 30 2010 Marcela Maslanova mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.29-8
 - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0
 

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File Set-IntSpan-1.14.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2010-07-20 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Set-IntSpan:

700bdabd4343cc1dd29fde70ecbd18e2  Set-IntSpan-1.14.tar.gz
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rpms/perl-Set-IntSpan/devel .cvsignore, 1.8, 1.9 perl-Set-IntSpan.spec, 1.19, 1.20 sources, 1.8, 1.9

2010-07-20 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Set-IntSpan/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv21927

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Set-IntSpan.spec sources 
Log Message:
* Tue Jul 20 2010 Ralf Corsépius rc040...@freenet.de  - 1.14.1
- Upstream update.



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Set-IntSpan/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- .cvsignore  31 Oct 2007 03:38:37 -  1.8
+++ .cvsignore  20 Jul 2010 07:09:52 -  1.9
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Set-IntSpan-1.13.tar.gz
+Set-IntSpan-1.14.tar.gz


Index: perl-Set-IntSpan.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Set-IntSpan/devel/perl-Set-IntSpan.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.19
retrieving revision 1.20
diff -u -p -r1.19 -r1.20
--- perl-Set-IntSpan.spec   6 May 2010 11:52:49 -   1.19
+++ perl-Set-IntSpan.spec   20 Jul 2010 07:09:52 -  1.20
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Set-IntSpan
-Version:1.13
-Release:6%{?dist}
+Version:1.14
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl module for managing sets of integers
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -51,6 +51,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 20 2010 Ralf Corsépius rc040...@freenet.de  - 1.14.1
+- Upstream update.
+
 * Thu May 06 2010 Marcela Maslanova mmasl...@redhat.com - 1.13-6
 - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Set-IntSpan/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- sources 31 Oct 2007 03:38:37 -  1.8
+++ sources 20 Jul 2010 07:09:52 -  1.9
@@ -1 +1 @@
-c1633328e9bfece889abe0949992ce04  Set-IntSpan-1.13.tar.gz
+700bdabd4343cc1dd29fde70ecbd18e2  Set-IntSpan-1.14.tar.gz

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Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2010-07-20 Thread buildsys


perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Data-Alias

2010-07-20 Thread buildsys


perl-Data-Alias has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
On i386:
perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-DBI-Dumper

2010-07-20 Thread buildsys


perl-DBI-Dumper has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-DBI-Dumper-2.01-8.fc12.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0)
On i386:
perl-DBI-Dumper-2.01-8.fc12.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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[Bug 616626] New: python-pip pkg conflict with perl-pip

2010-07-20 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: python-pip pkg conflict with perl-pip

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616626

   Summary: python-pip pkg conflict with perl-pip
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-pip
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: asto...@redhat.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com,
mmasl...@redhat.com, phalli...@excelsiorsystems.net
Depends on: 616399
Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---
  Clone Of: 616399


+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #616399 +++

Description of problem:
Attempting to do a wildcard install of both python and perl packages results a
file conflict for both python-pip and perl-pip

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
python-pip 0.6.3-1  perl-pip 1.16-1

How reproducible:
100%

Steps to Reproduce:
1. yum install python* perl*
2.
3.

Actual results:
Running Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/bin/pip conflicts between attempted installs of
python-pip-0.6.3-1.fc13.noarch and perl-pip-1.16-1.fc13.noarch


Expected results:
No conflicts

Additional info:


--- Additional comment from phalli...@excelsiorsystems.net on 2010-07-20
14:26:35 EDT ---

Well, I think the Debian approach
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551926) should be done here. 
Both packages should have to rename their /usr/bin/pip.  Something like
/usr/bin/pip-perl and /usr/bin/pip-python.  That way completion will work at
least.

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