EPEL epel beta report: 20140307 changes

2014-03-07 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Fri Mar  7 08:15:02 UTC 2014

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EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2014-03-07 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing:
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11560/fail2ban-0.8.10-4.el5
 139  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12091/bip-0.8.9-1.el5
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12169/gc-7.1-6.el5
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0581/augeas-1.2.0-1.el5
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0541/drupal7-ctools-1.4-1.el5
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0645/easy-rsa-2.2.2-1.el5
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0702/mod_auth_shadow-2.3-2.el5
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0745/imapsync-1.584-2.el5
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0752/libssh-0.5.5-2.el5


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing

drupal6-link-2.11-1.el5
drupal7-domain-3.11-1.el5
drupal7-fivestar-2.0-0.8.rc1.el5
drupal7-l10n_update-1.0-0.4.rc1.el5
drupal7-path_breadcrumbs-3.0-0.8.rc2.el5
drupal7-tmgmt-1.0-0.6.rc1.el5

Details about builds:



 drupal6-link-2.11-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0767)
 Defines simple link field types

Update Information:

Updated to 2.11
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2207273
Here is where you give an explanation of your update.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1071271 - drupal6-link-2.11 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1071271
  [ 2 ] Bug #829763 - Review Request: drupal6-link - Link module for Drupal6
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=829763




 drupal7-domain-3.11-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0775)
 A domain-based access control system

Update Information:

Updated to 3.11
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2208987

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1071895 - drupal7-domain-3.11 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1071895




 drupal7-fivestar-2.0-0.8.rc1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0778)
 Enables fivestar ratings on content, users, etc

Update Information:

Updated to 2.0-rc1
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2208927

ChangeLog:

* Thu Mar  6 2014 Shawn Iwinski shawn.iwin...@gmail.com - 2.0-0.8.rc1
- Updated to 2.0-rc1 (BZ #1066281; release notes 
https://drupal.org/node/2208927)

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1066281 - drupal7-fivestar-2.0-rc1 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1066281




 drupal7-l10n_update-1.0-0.4.rc1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0770)
 Provides automatic downloads and updates for translations

Update Information:

Updated to 1.0-rc1
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2204871

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1070105 - drupal7-l10n_update-1.0-rc1 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1070105




 drupal7-path_breadcrumbs-3.0-0.8.rc2.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0765)
 Allows creation of custom breadcrumbs for any page using contexts

Update Information:

Updated to 3.0-rc2
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2197523

ChangeLog:

* Thu Mar  6 2014 Shawn Iwinski shawn.iwin...@gmail.com - 3.0-0.8.rc2
- Updated to 3.0-rc2 (BZ #1066282; release notes 

EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2014-03-07 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
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 684  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12079/bip-0.8.9-1.el6
  31  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0440/fwsnort-1.6.4-1.el6
  26  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0483/boinc-client-7.2.33-3.git1994cc8.el6
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0538/drupal7-ctools-1.4-1.el6
  16  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0590/oath-toolkit-2.0.2-4.el6
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0644/easy-rsa-2.2.2-1.el6
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0653/perl-CGI-Application-4.50-4.el6
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0700/v8-3.14.5.10-6.el6
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0695/mod_auth_shadow-2.3-2.el6
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0730/php-sabre-dav-1.8.9-1.el6
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0747/imapsync-1.584-2.el6
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0751/libssh-0.5.5-2.el6
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0756/rubygem-rbovirt-0.0.6-2.el6


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing

cube-4.2.2-1.el6
drupal6-link-2.11-1.el6
drupal7-domain-3.11-1.el6
drupal7-fivestar-2.0-0.8.rc1.el6
drupal7-l10n_update-1.0-0.4.rc1.el6
drupal7-path_breadcrumbs-3.0-0.8.rc2.el6
drupal7-tmgmt-1.0-0.6.rc1.el6
fedocal-0.5.1-1.el6
php-twig-Twig-1.15.1-1.el6
psad-2.2.3-1.el6
python-oslo-sphinx-1.1-1.el6
python-sure-1.2.5-1.el6
racoon2-20100526a-27.el6

Details about builds:



 cube-4.2.2-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0781)
 CUBE Uniform Behavioral Encoding generic presentation component

Update Information:

CUBE (CUBE Uniform Behavioral Encoding) is a generic presentation component 
suitable for displaying a wide variety of performance metrics for parallel 
programs including MPI and OpenMP applications. CUBE allows interactive 
exploration of a multidimensional performance space in a scalable fashion.  
Scalability is achieved in two ways: hierarchical decomposition of individual 
dimensions and aggregation across different dimensions. All performance metrics 
are uniformly accommodated in the same display and thus provide the ability to 
easily compare the effects of different kinds of performance behavior.




 drupal6-link-2.11-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0779)
 Defines simple link field types

Update Information:

Updated to 2.11
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2207273
Here is where you give an explanation of your update.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1071271 - drupal6-link-2.11 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1071271
  [ 2 ] Bug #829763 - Review Request: drupal6-link - Link module for Drupal6
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=829763




 drupal7-domain-3.11-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0773)
 A domain-based access control system

Update Information:

Updated to 3.11
* Release notes: https://drupal.org/node/2208987

ChangeLog:

* Thu Mar  6 2014 Shawn Iwinski shawn.iwin...@gmail.com - 3.11-1
- Updated to 3.11 (BZ #1071895; release notes https://drupal.org/node/2208987)
* Sat Aug  3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.10-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1071895 - drupal7-domain-3.11 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1071895




 drupal7-fivestar-2.0-0.8.rc1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0772)
 Enables fivestar ratings on content, users, etc

Update Information:

Updated to 

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Petr Viktorin

On 03/06/2014 06:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:50:37PM +0100, drago01 wrote:

For instance we named a release beefy miracle and that might have
been offensive for some people (ex. in India)., but
apparently no one cared enough to officially complain.


Additionally, there is a fundamental difference here. The problem isn't that
someone might be offended -- people might be (and are) offended by anything.
The problem is that the logo refers to a marginalized race of people using
stereotyped imagery. While many people do not eat beef and hold cows sacred,
the beefy miracle logo does not make any reference to those people. If it
did, it too would have been a problem.


It seems this tabooization of stereotypes[0] is a North American concept 
(though, as I was surprised to learn, apparently there are entire fields 
of study around this area, which I admit I'm not familiar with).
I don't get how referring to a marginalized people using stereotyped 
imagery should be considered offensive in Fedora while sacrilege 
should not. I really don't see any fundamental difference. (Though -- or 
maybe because -- neither are offensive to me personally.)


Please, consider that there are cultures other than your own. What seems 
inherently right for you may seem confusing or even absurd to others, 
and on the other hand what seems trivial to you might be a huge issue 
for others.


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[0] Pardon me if this simplification is offensive. The whole concept is 
foreign to me.


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ANN Retiring pdftk for F20+

2014-03-07 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Hello,

I have reitiered pdftk for F-20 and rawhide. 

The rationals for this steps are:

1.) pdftk is a C++ programm which calls methods of a Java library called
iText. To do this, gcj with CNI support is required. The support of this
technology is discontinued in Fedora Linux. Therefore you can't make
any successfuls builds for pdftk on Fedora Linux anymore.

2.) pdftk2 may dempends of iText5 or later which is not provides on Fedora
during licensing issues.

Best Regards:

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F21 System Wide Change: jQuery

2014-03-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: jQuery =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/jQuery

Change owner(s): T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com

jQuery is a fast, small, and feature-rich JavaScript library. It makes things 
like HTML document traversal and manipulation, event handling, animation, and 
Ajax much simpler with an easy-to-use API that works across a multitude of 
browsers. With a combination of versatility and extensibility, jQuery has 
changed the way that millions of people write JavaScript.

Traditionally, a copy of jQuery has been included with every web application 
that requires it. This change will migrate many of those applications to a 
shared system copy of jQuery. Both the 1.x branch of jQuery that supports 
Internet Explorer 6 and the 2.x branch of jQuery that only works with modern 
web browsers will be provided. 

== Detailed description ==
Traditionally, a copy of jQuery has been included with every web application 
that requires it. This change will migrate many of those applications to a 
shared system copy of jQuery.

The following packages will be provided:

* js-jquery - The latest version of the jQuery 2.x branch, suitable for web 
applications that are only compatible with modern web browsers that fully 
support modern web standards.
* js-jquery1 - The latest version of the jQuery 1.x branch, suitable for web 
applications that endeavor to be compatible with older web browsers such as 
Internet Explorer 6.
* js-jquery-migrate - The jQuery migrate plugin, which is a compatibility shim 
that enables web applications that depend on older versions of jQuery to work 
with the latest version, so that they can be ported away from old, unsupported 
jQuery versions that may potentially have security issues. 

== Scope ==

Proposal owners:
=== New Packages ===
In addition to the new packages described above, several support packages must 
be introduced to enable proper building and minification of jQuery packages in 
Fedora. For more information, see the dependencies section.

Other developers:
=== Migrating Web Applications === 

Web applications that depend on modern versions of jQuery will simply be 
ported to use the systemwide version instead,

Web applications that use older versions of jQuery ( 1.6.4 but 1.9) will be 
ported to use jquery-migrate and the systemwide version of jQuery. Packagers 
will be encouraged to work with upstream to migrate to the latest version of 
jQuery without jquery-migrate, since using this plugin re-enables misfeatures 
rightly removed from jQuery core that are XSS holes waiting to happen.

Maintainers of web applications that use extremely old versions of jQuery ( 
1.6.4) will be strongly encouraged to work with upstream to migrate to the 
latest versions of jQuery and update their packages. However, current Fedora 
policy regarding bundled libraries permits these packages to be grandfathered 
in, so I am unable to force any action here.

Preliminary repoqueries have been performed to identify potentially affected 
packages, see the dependencies section for more details.

=== Migrating documentation frameworks === 
Certain documentation frameworks, such as python-sphinx, ship copies of jQuery 
as well. These frameworks will be modified to use a symlink or other means so 
that they too can use the new systemwide versions.

Policies and guidelines: None other than those needed for JavaScript packaging 
in general.

Release Engineering: No special attention required. 
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread H . Guémar
Hi,

I don't think that worrying about perpetuating offensive stereotypes
is specifc to the US, we have similar controversies in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banania#Controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Controversies

Anyway, the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable in Fedora
should be that no one should be offended by something that directly
refers to him or his origins in a negative or hurtful way.
I have no opinion about the Cherokee logo, as an European citizen, it
looks to me very innocent (a little child playing) but if it offends
native americans, it should be fixed anyway.

my 2 cts,
H.
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Re: ANN Retiring pdftk for F20+

2014-03-07 Thread Joachim Backes
On 03/06/2014 12:52 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have reitiered pdftk for F-20 and rawhide. 
 
 The rationals for this steps are:
 
 1.) pdftk is a C++ programm which calls methods of a Java library called
 iText. To do this, gcj with CNI support is required. The support of this
 technology is discontinued in Fedora Linux. Therefore you can't make
 any successfuls builds for pdftk on Fedora Linux anymore.

And what about pdfchain?

Joachim Backes

 Best Regards:
 
 Jochen Schmitt
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 03/06/2014 09:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

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On 03/06/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which has
a similar problem with Fedora Board which in turn dismissed my
concern and failed to answer my follow up question and I gave up
on it.  That is of course artwork that Fedora itself is upstream
of rather than merely something we package.  One would hope that
the new standard applies to concerns outside of U.S as well.


That's the crux of the issue, offensive is really interpreted as
  offensive to people in the USA. That just does not make sense
for a worldwide distribution, nor even for an international
company.



This statement is blatantly false.


And I consider this to be blatantly naive. You will always find somebody 
who complains about something and you will always find situations, which 
were things are far from being clear.


Just consider the F20 swastika background and a Fedora release once 
having been called Werewulf. As a German, both incidents caused me to 
raise an eye-brow, but weren't worth it to make a fuzz about.


That said, it would seem common sense to me for FESCO to have contacted 
some official representative of the American Indian People or the 
Cherokee Nation/People and ask for their opinion.


Did this happen? What did these representatives say?

Ralf

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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread drago01
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
 On 03/06/2014 09:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

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 On 03/06/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

 Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which has
 a similar problem with Fedora Board which in turn dismissed my
 concern and failed to answer my follow up question and I gave up
 on it.  That is of course artwork that Fedora itself is upstream
 of rather than merely something we package.  One would hope that
 the new standard applies to concerns outside of U.S as well.


 That's the crux of the issue, offensive is really interpreted as
   offensive to people in the USA. That just does not make sense
 for a worldwide distribution, nor even for an international
 company.


 This statement is blatantly false.


 And I consider this to be blatantly naive. You will always find somebody who
 complains about something and you will always find situations, which were
 things are far from being clear.

 Just consider the F20 swastika background and a Fedora release once having
 been called Werewulf. As a German, both incidents caused me to raise an
 eye-brow, but weren't worth it to make a fuzz about.

 That said, it would seem common sense to me for FESCO to have contacted some
 official representative of the American Indian People or the Cherokee
 Nation/People and ask for their opinion.

 Did this happen? What did these representatives say?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681339#c31
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Petr Viktorin

On 03/07/2014 10:59 AM, H. Guémar wrote:

Hi,

I don't think that worrying about perpetuating offensive stereotypes
is specifc to the US, we have similar controversies in Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banania#Controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Controversies


Well, read the second article. 92% of the Dutch public don't perceive 
Zwarte Piet as racist. I'm not saying it is or is not, or that it 
should or should not be fixed; I'm saying that there is a culture where 
this is not perceived as a big deal, as opposed to USA where political 
correctness is a big deal.



Anyway, the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable in Fedora
should be that no one should be offended by something that directly
refers to him or his origins in a negative or hurtful way.


My point is that the list him/her and his/her origins seems rather 
arbitrary. Why is e.g. his/her religion not on the list?
I'm not saying where the line should be drawn, that is obviously 
something a single person (or a single culture) shouldn't decide.


(By the way, excluding females by saying he when you mean anybody is 
seriously offensive to some. Again, from what I can tell, this is a big 
issue in the American culture.)



I have no opinion about the Cherokee logo, as an European citizen, it
looks to me very innocent (a little child playing) but if it offends
native americans, it should be fixed anyway.


I also don't see how anyone could be offended by it, but I understand 
that there is a culture that I don't understand :)


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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 03/07/2014 11:53 AM, drago01 wrote:

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:

On 03/06/2014 09:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:


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On 03/06/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:


Rahul Sundaram wrote:


I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which has
a similar problem with Fedora Board which in turn dismissed my
concern and failed to answer my follow up question and I gave up
on it.  That is of course artwork that Fedora itself is upstream
of rather than merely something we package.  One would hope that
the new standard applies to concerns outside of U.S as well.



That's the crux of the issue, offensive is really interpreted as
   offensive to people in the USA. That just does not make sense
for a worldwide distribution, nor even for an international
company.



This statement is blatantly false.



And I consider this to be blatantly naive. You will always find somebody who
complains about something and you will always find situations, which were
things are far from being clear.

Just consider the F20 swastika background and a Fedora release once having
been called Werewulf. As a German, both incidents caused me to raise an
eye-brow, but weren't worth it to make a fuzz about.

That said, it would seem common sense to me for FESCO to have contacted some
official representative of the American Indian People or the Cherokee
Nation/People and ask for their opinion.

Did this happen? What did these representatives say?


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681339#c31


OK, that's better than nothing, but this still is just one individual's 
position and is far from being an official position.


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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 6 March 2014 18:51, Tim Lauridsen tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not showing app, because they have bad looking icons, seems like a bad idea
 to me.

I'm not sure anyone will be surprised in my goal of making the
applications we show users have high quality content. XPM icons are a
good first step, then it'll be things like missing icon transparency,
AppData, translated AppData over the next few releases. The
alternative is we set the bar so high that only a dozen or so apps are
visible at first and the software center is useless for most users. I
also hope people are noticing the *hundreds* of upstream bugs I've
opened trying to raise the bar for all applications, rather than just
a thou shall do X, Y, Z.

I'm working at the moment on a tool that packagers and upstreams can
use to find out issues and recommendations. When it's finished enough
for some feedback I'll post some links.

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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2014-03-06, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 XPM is an old standard for icons used by a very small number of
 desktop packages in Fedora. The XPM icons are normally small, mostly 8
 bit, and usually without an alpha channel and look very bad in the
 software center.

 I'm going to propose for F21 that we drop support for XPM in the
 metadata extractor and only show apps with GIF, PNG and SVG icons. The
 list of affected GUI applications is here:

GIF is an old standard for icons used by a very small number of
desktop packages in Fedora. The GIF icons are normally small, mostly 8
bit, and usually without an alpha channel and look very bad in the
software center.

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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Satyajit Sahoo satyajit.ha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Apps with ugly icons and ugly design results in bad user experience
 IMO. They should not be displayed in the software center


The quaility of an application has nothing todo, with at fancy icon, not
showning the icon is ok, but don't show the application is not IMO
what will be the next ?  qt apps ? gtk2 apps
I agree with Richard that it would be very bad to set the bar to high, no
user want a software center there only shows 5% of the available apps
no matter, how slick it looks

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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 March 2014 11:42, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote:
 GIF is an old standard for icons used by a very small number of
 desktop packages in Fedora.

Also valid. The *two* applications in Fedora using gif icons are
asymptote and imagej.

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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.03.2014 12:57, schrieb Tim Lauridsen:
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Satyajit Sahoo satyajit.ha...@gmail.com 
 mailto:satyajit.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Apps with ugly icons and ugly design results in bad user experience
  IMO. They should not be displayed in the software center
 
 The quaility of an application has nothing todo, with at fancy icon, not 
 showning the 
 icon is ok, but don't show the application is not IMO what will be the next?  
 qt apps? gtk2 apps 

+1000

this new age function follows form is ridiculous, some people seems really
to prefer a horrible buggy but shiny application to a perfect working one



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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 March 2014 11:57, Tim Lauridsen tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote:
 what will be the next ?  qt apps ? gtk2 apps

No, because that would be ridiculous. Hiding applications using GTK1
would of course be okay.

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[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 07. Mar 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting: Proposal for cancel due to empty agenda

2014-03-07 Thread Phil Knirsch
No agenda for today, so i'd propose to cancel the meeting today and 
prepare another more detailed review of the Tech Specs and a checkup of 
the takslist of dglimore next week.


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Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-07 Thread Susi Lehtola
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:52:27 -0500
Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:
  That are the two reasons why I'm not able to support pdftk on
  Fedora anymore and was forced to reitred this package. I'm sorry
  for nayone who maintaining any package with dependencies on this
  package.
 
 This is why pdftk died. We can't include iText5+ because of its
 licensing issues.

But isn't it AGPL licensed, which is a free license..?
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qt-creator arm build timing out

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro Mani

Hi,

I'm trying to build qt-creator [1], but the builds fail due to the arm 
build timing out. Is there anyway I can increase the timeout?


Thanks,
Sandro


[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6604270
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Re: qt-creator arm build timing out

2014-03-07 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:53:24 +0100
Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to build qt-creator [1], but the builds fail due to the
 arm build timing out. Is there anyway I can increase the timeout?

can you resubmit with parallel make disabled for ARM? Building heavy C++
code in parallel with only 4GB RAM leads to heavy swapping which slows
down the build.


Dan

 
 Thanks,
 Sandro
 
 
 [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6604270
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Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-07 Thread Michal Srb

On 03/07/2014 01:30 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote:

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:52:27 -0500
Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:

That are the two reasons why I'm not able to support pdftk on
Fedora anymore and was forced to reitred this package. I'm sorry
for nayone who maintaining any package with dependencies on this
package.

This is why pdftk died. We can't include iText5+ because of its
licensing issues.

But isn't it AGPL licensed, which is a free license..?


See here:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001656.html

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Re: qt-creator arm build timing out

2014-03-07 Thread Sandro Mani


On 07.03.2014 14:05, Dan Horák wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:53:24 +0100
Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I'm trying to build qt-creator [1], but the builds fail due to the
arm build timing out. Is there anyway I can increase the timeout?

can you resubmit with parallel make disabled for ARM? Building heavy C++
code in parallel with only 4GB RAM leads to heavy swapping which slows
down the build.


Thanks, done.

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ABRT 2.2 with Python 3 support heading to Fedora

2014-03-07 Thread Richard Marko
Hi,

ABRT 2.2 adds support for Python 3 in form of two new packages:
- abrt-python3 providing an API for problem manipulation and
- abrt-addon-python3 adding support for collecting unhandled exceptions
in python 3 applications.

Packages are now available in rawhide and will land in updates-testing
for f19 and f20 soon. They will get pulled automatically by abrt-cli and
abrt-desktop virtual packages in future.

Please help testing these, especially if you maintain some python 3
applications.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/abrt-2.2.0-1.fc20,libreport-2.2.0-1.fc20
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/abrt-2.2.0-1.fc19,libreport-2.2.0-1.fc19
RFE: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047085


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Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 07. Mar 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting: Proposal for cancel due to empty agenda

2014-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Phil Knirsch pknir...@redhat.com wrote:
 No agenda for today, so i'd propose to cancel the meeting today and prepare
 another more detailed review of the Tech Specs and a checkup of the takslist
 of dglimore next week.

Agreed.

As an aside, I've missed this meeting the past couple of weeks because
I'm inept at calendar entries.  Just to make sure, we're sticking with
the current UTC time it is at now for future meetings right?  The US
switches to DST this weekend and the EU does at the end of the month.
Could get confusing.

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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-07 12:16 GMT+01:00 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de:

 On 03/07/2014 11:53 AM, drago01 wrote:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681339#c31


 OK, that's better than nothing, but this still is just one individual's
 position and is far from being an official position.


See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1230#comment:30 for a far better
explanation; with that, I didn't think official position was necessary.
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Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 07. Mar 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting: Proposal for cancel due to empty agenda

2014-03-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Phil Knirsch pknir...@redhat.com wrote:
  No agenda for today, so i'd propose to cancel the meeting today and prepare
  another more detailed review of the Tech Specs and a checkup of the
  takslist
  of dglimore next week.
 
 Agreed.

I'm ok too.

 As an aside, I've missed this meeting the past couple of weeks because
 I'm inept at calendar entries.  Just to make sure, we're sticking with
 the current UTC time it is at now for future meetings right?  The US
 switches to DST this weekend and the EU does at the end of the month.
 Could get confusing.

This month, it's going to be 5 hours difference. And as many of us has
meetings scheduled in Eastern time and it means earlier meeting for
EU folks, I'd say stick with current time - in the US, move EU one
hour earlier. Let's take a look on the new time in the end of this
month.

Not could get confusing, it's always confusing... 

Jaroslav

 
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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 07.03.2014 14:31, schrieb Josh Boyer:
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
 I this project dead?  I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots 
 and roller-derby sounded promising.  Any other tools out there?

 There's a recent snapshot/rollback thread on the desktop list that relates 
 to this. LVM thin provisioning support is in the Fedora 20 installer (it 
 fails to produce a bootable system, the post-install fix for which is listed 
 in Fedora 20 common bugs).

 However, if OSTree is used, then there isn't a hard requirement on either 
 LVM Thin Provisioning or Btrfs.
 
 I don't think that's accurate.  OSTree doesn't touch /home from what I
 remember.  It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree
 as possible /etc.  People likely still want snapshot and rollback for
 their actual _data_ as well

i don't think people *really* like to restore a snapshot of /usr
without /var/lib/rpm if they only know what that means at the end



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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-07 12:35 GMT+01:00 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com:

 I'm not sure anyone will be surprised in my goal of making the
 applications we show users have high quality content. XPM icons are a
 good first step, then it'll be things like missing icon transparency,
 AppData, translated AppData over the next few releases.


I don't think such technological restrictions will achieve your goal.

If you really want nice screenshots and well-written descriptions, just
do it and propose a manually-curated application list.[1]

If you want the application packagers and upstreams to be responsible for
the content so that you don't have to, with the associated pride or shame
about the content falling on the individual author of that content, that's
also an option.

AFAICS having the application packagers and upstreams to be responsible for
the content, but still reviewing it and looking for technological
indications that the content is sub-par, and adding code and rules to
enforce technological restrictions, has the disadvantages of both - you are
still doing manual reviews and extra work complicating the software by
adding technological restrictions[2], but you don't actually have the power
to avoid low-quality content.
Mirek


[1] We haven't had a good flamewar this week :)
[2] XPM is an indication of poor quality only because there's such a
correlation within the current appdata collection; this correlation may go
away in a month (The technological response to XPM is no longer supported
is clearly to take the existing XPM picture and convert it into something
else.)
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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 13:19 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 says who?
 
 as long GTK1 is not forbidden in Fedora there is no valid
 reason for that statement - you may prefer not having a
 function at all if it is not beautiful enough for you
 
 *but*
 
 * beautiful is in the eye of the beholder
 * you should hestitate make such proposals based on your eyes

Microsoft, Apple, and Google set requirements that apps must follow if
they want to appear in the software center in order to ensure a good
user experience. I absolutely think we need to do the same to be
competitive. Ancient icons are a good heuristic that the app is
unmaintained and not something the user really wants to install.


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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 03/07/2014 02:32 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:

2014-03-07 12:16 GMT+01:00 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de
mailto:rc040...@freenet.de:

On 03/07/2014 11:53 AM, drago01 wrote:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681339#c31


OK, that's better than nothing, but this still is just one
individual's position and is far from being an official position.


See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1230#comment:30  for a far
better explanation; with that, I didn't think official position was
necessary.


I think it is, because history tells you'll often find overzealous 
second-column activists, who are trying to defend or enforce positions, 
the first column or the broad mass never carried.


Unfortunately, I am not in a position to estimate what applies, here.

That said, if a Cherokee official would pronounce the negative position 
on the logo towards upstream, if I were upstream, I'd rename the 
project, because of this. If no Cherokee official would speak up, I'd 
not change anything about the project, but would have my very private 
thoughts about Fedora's and Red Hat's leadership.


Ralf


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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 07.03.2014 15:08, schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
 On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 13:19 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 says who?

 as long GTK1 is not forbidden in Fedora there is no valid
 reason for that statement - you may prefer not having a
 function at all if it is not beautiful enough for you

 *but*

 * beautiful is in the eye of the beholder
 * you should hestitate make such proposals based on your eyes
 
 Microsoft, Apple, and Google set requirements that apps must follow if
 they want to appear in the software center in order to ensure a good
 user experience. I absolutely think we need to do the same to be
 competitive. Ancient icons are a good heuristic that the app is
 unmaintained and not something the user really wants to install

if i want it the Apple and Microsoft way i just install Windows
or go out an buy a Mac - i am using Linux because it is *not*
Windows and *not *OSX*

speaking of freedom and freedom of choice and then come with
restrictions here and there is somehow strange

you hardly can call i do not show an app because i do not like
the icon a good user expierience - where do you draw the line?

that may end in there is no app for what i current need to do
and so i can't use that operating system at all while the app
was there but someone decided to hide it



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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 07.03.2014 15:08, schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
 Ancient icons are a good heuristic that the app is unmaintained 
 and not something the user really wants to install

Ancient icons are a good heuristic that a app if it does what i
need the next week or month does not get a complete rewrite
with a total different UI and that i want to use it *because*
of that to prevent my personal workflow changing all the time
by random decisions



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Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 07. Mar 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting: Proposal for cancel due to empty agenda

2014-03-07 Thread Phil Knirsch

On 03/07/2014 02:29 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Phil Knirsch pknir...@redhat.com wrote:

No agenda for today, so i'd propose to cancel the meeting today and prepare
another more detailed review of the Tech Specs and a checkup of the takslist
of dglimore next week.


Agreed.

As an aside, I've missed this meeting the past couple of weeks because
I'm inept at calendar entries.  Just to make sure, we're sticking with
the current UTC time it is at now for future meetings right?  The US
switches to DST this weekend and the EU does at the end of the month.
Could get confusing.

josh



Right, i remember the month of clock switch hell. And yes, i'd propose 
to stick with UTC for now. Even if it doesn't work for a few folks 
things should settle down in 3-4 weeks.


Thanks  regards and have a great weekend!

Phil

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Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
 On 03/06/2014 06:41 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:03:46PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:

 pdftk has a hard dependency on GCJ because it's a C++ program that
 uses a Java library (iText) through CNI.  I once tried to rewrite
 the C++ part in Java, but the existing command line parser is quite
 involved, so I didn't quite get there.

 Switch to pdftk version 2 doesn't change the basic architecture of
 the program.

 (We really want to get rid of GCJ.)

 An additional reason is the fact, that pdftk2 may depend on iText5 or later.
 For licensing reasons Fedora only provides iText-2.1.7 at the last release
 of iText wihout any known licensing issues.

 That are the two reasons why I'm not able to support pdftk on Fedora
 anymore and was forced to reitred this package. I'm sorry for nayone
 who maintaining any package with dependencies on this package.

 This is why pdftk died. We can't include iText5+ because of its
 licensing issues.


Sorry I am missing something. Why can't we keep the old pdftk that
works with itext2?

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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net 
wrote:


i don't think people *really* like to restore a snapshot of /usr
without /var/lib/rpm if they only know what that means at the end



On an rpm-ostree system, /var/lib/rpm is a symlink to /usr/share/rpm.

And that's only because I wanted to avoid depending on a small patch
to rpm to have it look in /usr/share/rpm automatically if /var/lib/rpm
doesn't exist.

If you follow this, you'll realize this also means it's immutable - rpm 
is

not involved in the upgrade process.  When you download a new tree,
you also download an entire new copy of the rpmdb.  And yes, it's an
efficiency hit.  On the other hand, every upgrade is atomic.


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Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
  On 03/06/2014 06:41 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:03:46PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
 
  pdftk has a hard dependency on GCJ because it's a C++ program that
  uses a Java library (iText) through CNI.  I once tried to rewrite
  the C++ part in Java, but the existing command line parser is quite
  involved, so I didn't quite get there.
 
  Switch to pdftk version 2 doesn't change the basic architecture of
  the program.
 
  (We really want to get rid of GCJ.)
 
  An additional reason is the fact, that pdftk2 may depend on iText5 or
  later.
  For licensing reasons Fedora only provides iText-2.1.7 at the last release
  of iText wihout any known licensing issues.
 
  That are the two reasons why I'm not able to support pdftk on Fedora
  anymore and was forced to reitred this package. I'm sorry for nayone
  who maintaining any package with dependencies on this package.
 
  This is why pdftk died. We can't include iText5+ because of its
  licensing issues.
 
 
 Sorry I am missing something. Why can't we keep the old pdftk that
 works with itext2?

Check the whole thread - because of GCJ dependency. iText is second
issue. The first could be fixed by rewrite of offending part of code
to Java but someone would have to do it first. That's how I understand
this situation.

Jaroslav

 
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Re: [389-devel] strcasestr vs. PL_strcasestr

2014-03-07 Thread Rich Megginson

On 03/07/2014 07:15 AM, Carsten Grzemba wrote:

Hi Nathan,

is there special reason why you use /strcasestr/ in ACL plugin instead 
of /PL_strcasestr/.

It presents me some headache to build 1.3.2 on Solaris 10.
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/389/ds.git/commit/ldap/servers/plugins/acl?id=95214606df95deb1cf9a30044fe64f780c030b34


No, there is no reason to use strcasestr.  We should be using 
PL_strcasestr for portability.




Carsten


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https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47731

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47731/0001-Ticket-47731-A-tombstone-entry-is-deleted-by-ldapdel.patch

Description: A tombstone deletion by ldapdelete op from client is
supposed to fail. The failure from SLAPI_PLUGIN_BETXNPOSTOPERATION was
ignored in 389-ds-base-1.2.11 plugin_call_func and it was not passed to
the backend to abort. This patch added the check in the same way as in
389-ds-base-1.3.1 and newer.
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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org 
wrote:


I don't think that's accurate.  OSTree doesn't touch /home from what I
remember.  It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree
as possible /etc.  People likely still want snapshot and rollback for
their actual _data_ as well.

Exactly, I think block/filesystem level storage are potential 
complements.


Many competently-maintained systems already have backup solutions for 
data though.  In fact, Anaconda defaults to having it on a separate 
partition in some configurations precisely so that one can just blow 
away the root partition and preserve /home.


Also, remember than on an OSTree system, /home is just a symlink to 
/var/home - *all* local mutable state lives in /var.



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F21 System Wide Change: u-boot syslinux by default

2014-03-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: u-boot syslinux by default =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/u-boot_syslinux

Change owner(s): Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us

Add syslinux support to u-boot enabling both pxelinux and extlinux support. 
simplifying booting arm machines, making anaconda installs easy and overall 
providing for a better user experience. Default u-boot to using syslinux config 
files for booting. pxelinux for network and extlinux for local booting. 

== Detailed description ==
u-boot has support for booting using syslinux style configuration files, this 
change is to default to using it on all supported systems. 

=== Benefit to Fedora ===
This takes away the complexity of booting arm systems. There is no need to 
know addresses or to wrap images with mkimage. Users will get a menu that 
allows them to choose which kernel to boot. making things like a boot.img will 
be possible. Initiating installs via anaconda will also be much more simple 
and straight forward. 

== Scope ==
* Proposal owners: default u-boot to loading extlinux.conf files. anaconda to 
write a devicetreedir line in extlinux.conf on arm systems. appliance-creator 
to write out a devicetreedir in extlinux.conf on arm systems
* Other developers: grubby to update extlinux.conf appropriately.
* Release engineering: None
* Policies and guidelines: None
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Re: review swap: cscppc, cswrap

2014-03-07 Thread nonamedotc
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On 03/06/2014 10:30 AM, Kamil Dudka wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is anyone willing to review or swap reviews of the following 
 packages?
 
 * cscppc - A compiler wrapper that runs cppcheck in background, 
 available at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1066026
 
 * cswrap - Generic compiler wrapper, available at 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1066028
 
 Basic info and motivation for adding these packages to Fedora is 
 available at 
 http://kdudka.fedorapeople.org/static-analysis-devconf14.pdf.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Kamil
 

Hi Kamil,

I have taken cswrap for review. I will take cscppc also after
finishing cswrap.

Mukundan.
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Self Introduction: Adrien Vergé

2014-03-07 Thread Adrien Vergé
Hi everybody,

I'm a French Fedora user and I'm trying to become a package maintainer for the
system I have been using for years!  Usually I write C and Python for personal
stuff, I am also involved in projects (currently, tracing on Linux with
LTTng) and contributed to the Linux kernel.

I would like to be a package maintainer for PhotoCollage [1], which I also
develop upstream.  I submitted the package for review [2], can someone look
at it? :)

Thanks!

[1]: https://github.com/adrienverge/PhotoCollage
[2]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073978
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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:57 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:

 The quaility of an application has nothing todo, with at fancy icon,
 not showning the icon is ok, but don't show the application is not IMO
 what will be the next ?  qt apps ? gtk2 apps 

Consider the option of assuming good faith.

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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy

On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
 
 On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
 
 Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning
 Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
 Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
 
 [1] 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
 
 
 I this project dead?  I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots 
 and roller-derby sounded promising.  Any other tools out there?
 
 There's a recent snapshot/rollback thread on the desktop list that relates 
 to this. LVM thin provisioning support is in the Fedora 20 installer (it 
 fails to produce a bootable system, the post-install fix for which is listed 
 in Fedora 20 common bugs).
 
 However, if OSTree is used, then there isn't a hard requirement on either 
 LVM Thin Provisioning or Btrfs.
 
 I don't think that's accurate.

Which part? OSTree doesn't require either LVM thinp or Btrfs. It works on plain 
ext4 or XFS.


  OSTree doesn't touch /home from what I
 remember.  It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree
 as possible /etc.  People likely still want snapshot and rollback for
 their actual _data_ as well.

Orion didn't mention /home, and Roller Derby doesn't directly address it 
either.  Both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper can, but snapshots coincide 
with system updates. More useful is a regularly timed snapshot of the user's 
home, .e.g. hourly with age based clean-up.


Chris Murphy

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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 March 2014 14:08, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
 Microsoft, Apple, and Google set requirements that apps must follow if
 they want to appear in the software center in order to ensure a good
 user experience.

This is something I absolutely want to do. We already rate the
applications in GNOME 3.12 depending on how many positive attributes
they have (the star ratings) and I think it's fine to set a minimum
standard and slowly raise the bar over time. Showing 500 applications
that hits some absolute minimum level is much better than showing an
additional 500 basically crap applications.

Richard.
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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 03/07/2014 09:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:


On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:


On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:


Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning
Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport



I this project dead?  I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots and 
roller-derby sounded promising.  Any other tools out there?




Orion didn't mention /home, and Roller Derby doesn't directly address it 
either.  Both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper can, but snapshots coincide 
with system updates. More useful is a regularly timed snapshot of the user's 
home, .e.g. hourly with age based clean-up.


I'm actually not that interested in tying in with yum updates etc.  I'm just 
looking for a tool that might help with managing LVM snapshots in general - 
and specifically for managing snapshots of VMs.  Something I could perhaps say 
have take a snapshot every X hours and keep the latest Y snapshots.




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Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 07.03.2014 18:16, schrieb Dan Williams:
 On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 00:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 * change requests that would have broken compatibility with the existing 
 implementations of the protocol already in wide use for little to no 
 practical benefit, such as nitpicking about the names of some D-Bus methods.
 
 So just because something is in use, but hasn't been standardized or
 been through any kind of standardization discussion, it should
 automatically be adopted as-is?  I think not...

in case of changes gaining less to zero - YES

you can't make vague specifications not forbid naming things in
a way, wait months and years until it is widely used and then
come out and say oh and now we strictly say how to use it and
expect everybody out there to change any existing code

that happens way too often in the open source world while in
a company you get instantly fired acting that way and demand
all others to sped their time for changes you enforce if you
can't prove a very good reason for doing so



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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy

On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote:

 2014-03-07 14:31 GMT+01:00 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org:
 remember.  It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree
 as possible /etc.  People likely still want snapshot and rollback for
 their actual _data_ as well.
 
 (Choosing a random point in the conversation...)
 
 I'm starting to think that snapshots are never the right tool, at best a 
 local optimization:
 For the OS and application code and static data: What we really want is the 
 ability to reinstall/redeploy this data if it became lost or corrupted.  We 
 don't really want point-in-time snapshots; snapshots are only a local 
 optimization allowing us to redeploy the version that has been installed 
 yesterday.  An ideal technology would allow instant deployment of both old 
 and new versions (redeploying and old version and deploying a new version 
 have structurally the same effect on a filesystem), then snapshots wouldn't 
 be needed.
I find for my use case that snapshots are frequently the right tool. But that's 
because of the workflow/use case I have. Snapshots aren't inherently good.

If Fedora.next is to be more stable/production oriented than previous Fedora's, 
then the problem Roller Derby is attempting to solve also changes. I think 
OSTree may eventually address the OS/application coherent updates problem 
better than the far less granular snapshot strategies to date, but it remains 
to be seen if we're going to have the same problem or concerns that initiate 
the desire for rollbacks in the first place.

If all we're looking to do in the near term is make yum/dnf and Gnome offline 
updates safer, that could happen relatively quickly with existing tools. But it 
would require a hard dependency on either LVM thinp or Btrfs snapshots, and 
changes to perform the update in a chroot on the snapshots rather than the 
active tree. But that's still significantly easier than maintaining dozens or 
hundreds of snapshots which both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper do.

Windows and OS X don't do atomic updates either. Windows essentially becomes 
unusable as updates are applied. OS X application updates require the 
application to be quit first, which it'll offer to do and then relaunch after 
the update; while system updates are applied only after user logout, and then 
the system reboots. But both their OS trees (system binaries minus apps) are 
static. They're essentially identical on every deployment. So they have a known 
initial quantity and quality, being updated. So they don't have nearly as much 
failsafe testing of the actual update process because of this. The updates 
themselves just don't fail. Therefore a rollback is a reinstallation. They 
don't even keep the old kernel around when it's updated, while our GRUB menu to 
fallback to the prior kernel is a kind of rollback.

So it sounds to me like OSTree could enable maybe a dozen common trees (rather 
than almost infinite today). Since they're common, they're also relatively 
stable, aided by the fact their start and end states during the course of an 
update are known. But multiple trees are also more flexible than the Windows/OS 
X paradigm where they have basically one tree, the only variation of which is 
its version as provided by those companies.

 For users' data: What we really want is backups—definitely on a different 
 disk, ideally off-site.  An ideal technology would allow continuous 
 replication of the data elsewhere.  Snaphots are at best a way to quickly 
 access a backup from the past hour, but are not at all a replacement for a 
 backup.
Right. Whether GF2 or Gluster or other, I'd like local SSD performance for my 
home, with a (nearly) syncronous local network replicant, and an async offsite. 
My preference is a time based snapshot, and that is like any other user data, 
it gets replicated to the network (be it a NAS or an ARM gluster cluster), and 
that's replicated offsite.

 For configuration: What we really want is a VCS, dealing with changesets, 
 documenting who has changed what, when and why.  Snapshots are a really poor 
 VCS.
 Obviously we don't have all that technology that we really want, or at 
 least not in a way that is ready to deploy, but we kind of have snapshots.  
 Let's just not think that snapshots are right.


To do VCS correctly requires application opt-in, and an API to manage it. How 
do I get revision control with file formats that don't support it like RTF, 
txt, PNG, TIFF, etc? Well it's non-trivial because when I share the document 
via email or copy it to a thumb drive, it necessarily contains only one 
version: current. Yet when it's backed up and restored, versions must present? 
So where and how are the versions stored, and how does the user interact with 
the application in an intuitive manner?

One possible idea:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/14/#versioning-internals

This isn't using fs snapshots at all.


Chris 

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


 in case of changes gaining less to zero - YES


If a single desktop environment wants to just implement something, they can
go ahead and do so but that doesn't make it a real specification.  For
other desktop environments to adopt it, it needs to be a collaborative and
shared effort.  Part of that is addressing concerns and bringing more
clarity so that multiple implementations are compatible.  Unstated
assumptions lead precisely to the kind of problems you are talking about.

Rahul
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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy

On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:

 On 03/07/2014 09:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
 
 On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
 
 Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning
 Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
 Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
 
 [1] 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
 
 
 I this project dead?  I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots 
 and roller-derby sounded promising.  Any other tools out there?
 
 
 Orion didn't mention /home, and Roller Derby doesn't directly address it 
 either.  Both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper can, but snapshots coincide 
 with system updates. More useful is a regularly timed snapshot of the user's 
 home, .e.g. hourly with age based clean-up.
 
 I'm actually not that interested in tying in with yum updates etc.  I'm just 
 looking for a tool that might help with managing LVM snapshots in general - 
 and specifically for managing snapshots of VMs.  Something I could perhaps 
 say have take a snapshot every X hours and keep the latest Y snapshots.

I don't think Roller Derby applies here. Virt-manager and virsh support VM 
snapshots. 

You could schedule snapshots with a script using virsh. But I don't know that 
it will create LVM snapshots, and even if it did you wouldn't want it to 
because they're slow. There soon will be LVM thinp support in libvirt but I 
don't think it's there yet. Instead, use qcow2 files for this. In my Fedora 20 
installation as a benchmarking tool tests, the fastest installs I got were 
Btrfs in the guest, writing into a qcow2 file with xattr +C on a Btrfs host, 
with the unsafe cache setting. Even plain ext4 on an LV wasn't faster.


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Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 07.03.2014 18:33, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 in case of changes gaining less to zero - YES
 
 If a single desktop environment wants to just implement something, they can 
 go ahead and do so but that doesn't
 make it a real specification.  For other desktop environments to adopt it, it 
 needs to be a collaborative and
 shared effort.  Part of that is addressing concerns and bringing more clarity 
 so that multiple implementations are
 compatible.  Unstated assumptions lead precisely to the kind of problems you 
 are talking about

i know that all and aware that it is not perfect but if others adopt
something existing and already widely used they hardly can demand to
change all existing code

if you take the word specification strong you need also to refuse any RFC
because request for comments is not a spacification by it's meaning and
at least you have to forget any draft RFC, some of them are used for decades
and where never finished but nobody changes them and say and that is now
the standard, anyhting out there with different behavior is no longer
standard confrom

honestly you should be careful in general with specification and standard
because there are only a few institutions world wide in the position to define
a standard at all

the rest are de-facto standards



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Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Reindl Harald  wrote:

 i know that all and aware that it is not perfect but if others adopt
 something existing and already widely used they hardly can demand to
 change all existing code


There is no need to assume that clarifying something requires changing
existing code and changing existing code doesn't necessarily require
breaking compatibility and if you are bothered by breakages, you should be
rallying against KDE dropping XEmbed as well but that isn't really a
practical viewpoint.



 if you take the word specification strong you need also to refuse any RFC


Only if you take it out of context

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/

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Re: review swap: cscppc, cswrap

2014-03-07 Thread Kamil Dudka
Hi Mukundan,

On Friday, March 07, 2014 09:29:09 nonamedotc wrote:
 I have taken cswrap for review. I will take cscppc also after
 finishing cswrap.

thank you very much for taking the reviews!

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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Emily Dirsh
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:


 Am 07.03.2014 18:16, schrieb Ryan Lerch:
  IMHO, the proposal was less of
 
  let's remove ugly icons
 
  and more
 
  lets hide applications that use icons in this particular format that
 doesn't support the features of the software
  application

 IMHO you did not read the proposal itself
 scroll down - i pasted it again in this message


IMHO Ryan is exactly correct - and you're coming off as a bit
condescending. The proposal is about a particular image format which
doesn't scale well to the size we need in the software center and doesn't
have an alpha channel. It's not a judgement on the design of the icon.



  It is still possible to have ugly icons, they just have to be in PNG,
 GIF or SVG format

 and that is why and look very bad defined by the format is flawed


if you take a small bitmap and scale it up it will look bad, no matter how
well it's designed otherwise. That's just a limitation of the format, and
saying so is not flawed.



  Original-Nachricht 
 Betreff: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM
 icons
 Datum: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 15:41:00 +
 Von: Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com
 An: Development discussions related to Fedora 
 devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

 XPM is an old standard for icons used by a very small number of
 desktop packages in Fedora. The XPM icons are normally small, mostly 8
 bit, and usually without an alpha channel and look very bad in the
 software center.

 I'm going to propose for F21 that we drop support for XPM in the
 metadata extractor and only show apps with GIF, PNG and SVG icons. The
 list of affected GUI applications is here:

 TeXmacs
 cycle
 flamerobin
 gnurobots
 linsmith
 mup
 pari-gp
 pgadmin3
 qtel
 qucs
 xsensors

 As usual, I'd like to push packagers to get upstream to ship a more
 modern (and high resolution, *with* alpha channel) icon in PNG or SVG
 format, but packagers can also just replace the icon referenced in the
 .desktop file if upstream is unwilling / dead and a good replacement
 is available.

 Comments welcome,


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Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.03.2014 20:42, schrieb Przemek Klosowski:
 On 03/07/2014 11:21 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
 On 7 March 2014 14:08, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
 Microsoft, Apple, and Google set requirements that apps must follow if
 they want to appear in the software center in order to ensure a good
 user experience.
 This is something I absolutely want to do. We already rate the
 applications in GNOME 3.12 depending on how many positive attributes
 they have (the star ratings) and I think it's fine to set a minimum
 standard and slowly raise the bar over time. Showing 500 applications
 that hits some absolute minimum level is much better than showing an
 additional 500 basically crap applications.

 This decision should belong to the user, though. It's one thing to default to 
 showing only five-star applications
 (GTK2, icon with transparency, AppData with translations) while allowing the 
 user to widen the criteria to show
 more applications. It is quite another thing to make an unilateral decision 
 to take out an entire class that fails
 to satisfy some arbitrary requirement.
 
 I do realize that the app installer becomes more complex, with the 'number of 
 stars' selector, and having to make
 up application data that the app itself failed to provide, but I think 
 cost/benefit justifies that effort.
 
 I feel old and cranky arguing this point but the app markets for portable 
 devices are a _counterexample_ to a
 thesis that pretty metadata guarantees better application quality. At least 
 on portable devices the old-line stuff
 simply does not install so it is irrelevant; on Fedora it can be installed 
 and would be useful to someone, if only
 they can discover its existence when using the pretty, default application 
 installer. As another data point, I just
 introduced 'units' to another person that missed it in spite of being in the 
 business of scientific
 data/calculations. Fedora should make it easier, not more difficult, for 
 people to discover such useful things.

*exactly* my point and even if i do not use any GUI for install/update
packages i care about because others should have the same options as
i had many years ago to find their *alternative* to Windows/OSX



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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:17 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
 On 03/07/2014 10:59 AM, H. Guémar wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I don't think that worrying about perpetuating offensive stereotypes
  is specifc to the US, we have similar controversies in Europe:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banania#Controversy
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Controversies
 
 Well, read the second article. 92% of the Dutch public don't perceive 
 Zwarte Piet as racist. I'm not saying it is or is not, or that it 
 should or should not be fixed; I'm saying that there is a culture where 
 this is not perceived as a big deal, as opposed to USA where political 
 correctness is a big deal.

Please, keep the term 'political correctness' out of it, as it is an
inherently problematic term. It was invented by one side of the
meta-debate as a stick with which to beat the other side, so its use in
any ostensibly unbiased evaluation is inappropriate.

  Anyway, the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable in Fedora
  should be that no one should be offended by something that directly
  refers to him or his origins in a negative or hurtful way.
 
 My point is that the list him/her and his/her origins seems rather 
 arbitrary. Why is e.g. his/her religion not on the list?

There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
your race/color/general genetic origin.

Still, drawing a line that simple would imply we could go around
joyfully insulting religions left right and centre, and mostly people
tend to refrain from doing that out of politeness if nothing else. But
still, it seems like an important factor to consider.
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread drago01
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:17 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
 On 03/07/2014 10:59 AM, H. Guémar wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I don't think that worrying about perpetuating offensive stereotypes
  is specifc to the US, we have similar controversies in Europe:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banania#Controversy
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Controversies

 Well, read the second article. 92% of the Dutch public don't perceive
 Zwarte Piet as racist. I'm not saying it is or is not, or that it
 should or should not be fixed; I'm saying that there is a culture where
 this is not perceived as a big deal, as opposed to USA where political
 correctness is a big deal.

 Please, keep the term 'political correctness' out of it, as it is an
 inherently problematic term. It was invented by one side of the
 meta-debate as a stick with which to beat the other side, so its use in
 any ostensibly unbiased evaluation is inappropriate.

  Anyway, the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable in Fedora
  should be that no one should be offended by something that directly
  refers to him or his origins in a negative or hurtful way.

 My point is that the list him/her and his/her origins seems rather
 arbitrary. Why is e.g. his/her religion not on the list?

 There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
 you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
 your race/color/general genetic origin.

Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / whatever.
There is is the option of just ignore.

But unfortunatly a lot of people don't think that way.
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 22:52 +0100, drago01 wrote:

  There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
  you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
  your race/color/general genetic origin.
 
 Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / whatever.
 There is is the option of just ignore.

That is not a true choice. Ignoring the effect of marginalization that
such offensive texts ignore is, effectively, opting into it.

I'm gay. I can choose to ignore it when people yell 'faggot!' at me,
but it's not a choice I should be forced, required or expected to make,
and in a sense, it feels like a betrayal to the group being
discriminated against to do so. Not speaking out is, in a sense,
tantamount to accepting that sort of treatment as OK. (Not to criticize
those in this or other commonly-discriminated-against groups who do
choose to ignore offensive acts; there *are* valid reasons to make that
choice in some circumstances, but it is not OK to say well, that's just
what you should always do.)

 But unfortunatly a lot of people don't think that way.

There are reasons why.
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread drago01
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 22:52 +0100, drago01 wrote:

  There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
  you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
  your race/color/general genetic origin.

 Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / 
 whatever.
 There is is the option of just ignore.

 That is not a true choice. Ignoring the effect of marginalization that
 such offensive texts ignore is, effectively, opting into it.

 I'm gay. I can choose to ignore it when people yell 'faggot!' at me,

Well there is a difference between a direct attack on you and a
random image somewhere.
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 07.03.2014 23:33, schrieb Adam Williamson:
 On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 22:52 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
 you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
 your race/color/general genetic origin.

 Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / 
 whatever.
 There is is the option of just ignore.
 
 That is not a true choice. Ignoring the effect of marginalization that
 such offensive texts ignore is, effectively, opting into it.
 
 I'm gay. I can choose to ignore it when people yell 'faggot!' at me,
 but it's not a choice I should be forced, required or expected to make,
 and in a sense, it feels like a betrayal to the group being
 discriminated against to do so. Not speaking out is, in a sense,
 tantamount to accepting that sort of treatment as OK. (Not to criticize
 those in this or other commonly-discriminated-against groups who do
 choose to ignore offensive acts; there *are* valid reasons to make that
 choice in some circumstances, but it is not OK to say well, that's just
 what you should always do.)
 
 But unfortunatly a lot of people don't think that way.
 
 There are reasons why

not really good ones

it is indeed a amercian phenomenon always feel personally abused
by anything and if there is no actual reason people feel abused
because they are ignored - if i seek for a reason to feel abused
i will find one - mailing lists with english speakers prove that

that is the same as german people are not allowed to criticize
isreal even if they are 100% right because of their history
while most where even not born at that time

what about people live their live and just ignore things they
don't like? life would be too easy? so hwat





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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 23:57 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 22:52 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 
   There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
   you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
   your race/color/general genetic origin.
 
  Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / 
  whatever.
  There is is the option of just ignore.
 
  That is not a true choice. Ignoring the effect of marginalization that
  such offensive texts ignore is, effectively, opting into it.
 
  I'm gay. I can choose to ignore it when people yell 'faggot!' at me,
 
 Well there is a difference between a direct attack on you and a
 random image somewhere.

There's a difference in immediacy and degree, but not in kind. It all
ultimately contributes to the same effect.
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[Test-Announce] 2014-03-10 @ ** 15:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2014-03-07 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2014-03-10
# Time: ** 15:00 UTC **
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net

Greetings testers!

It's meeting time again on Monday! Note that daylight saving time begins
over the weekend in North America, and we usually follow the NA changes,
so this meeting will be at 15:00 UTC. If you're in North America or
somewhere else the daylight savings change kicks in this weekend, the
meeting will be at the same local time as usual for you. If you're
somewhere where daylight saving kicks in later (or not at all), the
meeting will be an hour earlier than usual until daylight saving kicks
in in your region.

The .next tech specs seem to be firming up, so I thought it'd be
interesting to talk about plans for testing to them, and also about
storage validation testing in light of the agreements we've made there.

== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
1. Previous meeting follow-up
  * adamw and cmurf and anyone else interested to keep watching and
driving the product WG discussions on filesystems
  * adamw to ask fesco to consider KDE release blocking status
  * adamw to propose disabling of autokarma on depcheck fail (to FESCo) as
a stopgap till more reliable depcheck with taskotron
2. Fedora.next plans
  * desktop technical spec: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification
  * server spec: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Technical_Specification
  * Storage validation plan: can we improve it now?
  * Testing to the specs: how far can we go?
3. Open floor
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Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:

 Sorry I am missing something. Why can't we keep the old pdftk that
 works with itext2?

 Check the whole thread - because of GCJ dependency. iText is second
 issue. The first could be fixed by rewrite of offending part of code
 to Java but someone would have to do it first. That's how I understand
 this situation.


The only things I read in the thread are GCJ is abandoned and we
really want to get rid of GCJ. Am I supposed to come to the
conclusion that the GCJ package is dropped from Fedora? If so, where
is this decision made? Why was it made without consulting GCJ users?

We have so many abandoned projects packaged in Fedora. I don't
understand the rush to drop one of them.

If GCJ is not dropped, what is the reason for retiring pdftk then?
(sorry it's Friday night, my deduction skill are at their lowest)

Best,
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Broken dependencies: perl-PDL

2014-03-07 Thread buildsys


perl-PDL has broken dependencies in the epel-7 tree:
On ppc64:
perl-PDL-2.7.0-2.el7.1.ppc64 requires perl(PDL::Slatec)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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[perl-HTML-Mason/f19] (6 commits) ...Merge cleanup.

2014-03-07 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes:

  2206752... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
  4aba44b... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  a31a458... Upstream update. (*)
  6eb97de... Upstream update. (*)
  60eb7fe... Upstream update. (*)
  22cc415... Merge cleanup.

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[perl-HTML-Mason/f19: 6/6] Merge cleanup.

2014-03-07 Thread corsepiu
commit 22cc415bfa4491c90a5f12e3bf64a0b1ca228a28
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Fri Mar 7 08:58:01 2014 +0100

Merge cleanup.

 perl-HTML-Mason.spec |   12 
 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-HTML-Mason.spec b/perl-HTML-Mason.spec
index df9a8f0..f739710 100644
--- a/perl-HTML-Mason.spec
+++ b/perl-HTML-Mason.spec
@@ -94,18 +94,6 @@ make test
 - Upstream update.
 - Filter duplicate Requires:.
 
-* Tue Oct 15 2013 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1:1.52-1
-- Upstream update.
-
-* Fri Aug 16 2013 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1:1.51-1
-- Upstream update.
-
-* Fri Aug 09 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1:1.50-3
-- Perl 5.18 rebuild
-
-* Sat Aug 03 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1:1.50-2
-- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild
-
 * Thu Mar 21 2013 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1:1.50-1
 - Upstream update.
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File Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2014-03-07 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon:

51acf0cb00cc01a2c8f560d74dd6c593  Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00.tar.gz
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[perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon] Upstream update.

2014-03-07 Thread corsepiu
commit 53959ba8189a399c795ca10ac6f13b14c6e0ef01
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Fri Mar 7 10:05:51 2014 +0100

Upstream update.

 .gitignore|2 +-
 perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec |5 -
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index ba92686..6f7b7a6 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1 @@
-/Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-0.99.tar.gz
+/Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec 
b/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec
index 95d7572..ae7c8e7 100644
--- a/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec
+++ b/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon
-Version:   0.99
+Version:   1.00
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Extract translatable strings from source
 License:   MIT
@@ -75,6 +75,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Mar 07 2014 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1.00-1
+- Upstream update.
+
 * Tue Feb 04 2014 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.99-1
 - Upstream update.
 - Remove redundant explicit R: perl(YAML::Loader).
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index be60663..3d7effd 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-c88e75b607a424c04613765cebb5  Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-0.99.tar.gz
+51acf0cb00cc01a2c8f560d74dd6c593  Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00.tar.gz
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[perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon/f20] Upstream update.

2014-03-07 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes:

  53959ba... Upstream update. (*)

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File IO-All-0.59.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-IO-All:

9273e98b35032f8a6eaff5db3681abb9  IO-All-0.59.tar.gz
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[perl-IO-All] Update to 0.59

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 677b2fe4253a32e19e7519a7fde17b54460bdd20
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Fri Mar 7 10:23:30 2014 +

Update to 0.59

- New upstream release 0.59
  - Fix possible infinite loop in t/accept.t (GH#42)
  - Fix yet another utf8 validation issue (GH#38)
  - Fix warnings running t/tie.t on Windows (GH#37)

 perl-IO-All.spec |8 +++-
 sources  |2 +-
 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-IO-All.spec b/perl-IO-All.spec
index 73c836c..5e4200f 100644
--- a/perl-IO-All.spec
+++ b/perl-IO-All.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-IO-All
-Version:0.58
+Version:0.59
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:IO::All Perl module
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -94,6 +94,12 @@ make %{?_smp_mflags} test RELEASE_TESTING=1
 %{_mandir}/man3/IO::All::Temp.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Mar  7 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.59-1
+- Update to 0.59
+  - Fix possible infinite loop in t/accept.t (GH#42)
+  - Fix yet another utf8 validation issue (GH#38)
+  - Fix warnings running t/tie.t on Windows (GH#37)
+
 * Mon Mar  3 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.58-1
 - Update to 0.58
   - Fix canonpath on MSWin32
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 1d76298..7b88a21 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-b3b45f9b20311ddb104947dfd6615448  IO-All-0.58.tar.gz
+9273e98b35032f8a6eaff5db3681abb9  IO-All-0.59.tar.gz
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[perl-IO-All/epel7] Update to 0.59

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  677b2fe... Update to 0.59 (*)

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[perl-IO-All] Created tag perl-IO-All-0.59-1.fc21

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-IO-All-0.59-1.fc21' was created pointing to:

 677b2fe... Update to 0.59
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[perl-IO-All] Created tag perl-IO-All-0.59-1.el7

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-IO-All-0.59-1.el7' was created pointing to:

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[Bug 1073861] New: please provide epel7 builds

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073861

Bug ID: 1073861
   Summary: please provide epel7 builds
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Getopt-Simple
  Assignee: jan.kle...@gmail.com
  Reporter: psime...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jan.kle...@gmail.com,
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The racoon2 package in epel7 depends on perl-Getopt-Simple which is present in
Fedora and most likely epel6 but not in epel7. Please start the epel7 branch
and provide builds.

See:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/epel7/Requests

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File ExtUtils-Helpers-0.022.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-ExtUtils-Helpers:

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[perl-ExtUtils-Helpers] Update to 0.022

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 6b99baa9c39453ee5dbdb5b5c2c015addd8e7b95
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Fri Mar 7 13:55:49 2014 +

Update to 0.022

- New upstream release 0.022
  - Cleaned up remains of former functions
  - Skip IO layers on 5.8 for 5.6 compatibility
  - Don't swallow pl2bat exceptions
- Drop patch for using Text::ParseWords  3.24; even EL-5 has it

 ExtUtils-Helpers-0.016-old-Text::ParseWords.patch |   11 ---
 perl-ExtUtils-Helpers.spec|   30 +++-
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-ExtUtils-Helpers.spec b/perl-ExtUtils-Helpers.spec
index aca8e01..fb83a3a 100644
--- a/perl-ExtUtils-Helpers.spec
+++ b/perl-ExtUtils-Helpers.spec
@@ -1,18 +1,14 @@
-# We don't really need Text::ParseWords ≥ 3.24
-%global old_tpw %(perl -MText::ParseWords -e 'print 
(($Text::ParseWords::VERSION)  3.24 ? 1 : 0);' 2/dev/null || echo 0)
-
 # Test suite needs patching if we have Test::More  0.88
 %global old_test_more %(perl -MTest::More -e 'print (($Test::More::VERSION)  
0.88 ? 1 : 0);' 2/dev/null || echo 0)
 
 Name:  perl-ExtUtils-Helpers
-Version:   0.021
-Release:   4%{?dist}
+Version:   0.022
+Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Various portability utilities for module builders
 Group: Development/Libraries
 License:   GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:   https://metacpan.org/release/ExtUtils-Helpers
 Source0:   
http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/L/LE/LEONT/ExtUtils-Helpers-%{version}.tar.gz
-Patch2:ExtUtils-Helpers-0.016-old-Text::ParseWords.patch
 Patch3:ExtUtils-Helpers-0.021-old-Test::More.patch
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(id -nu)
 BuildArch: noarch
@@ -26,11 +22,15 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(File::Basename)
 BuildRequires: perl(File::Copy)
 BuildRequires: perl(File::Spec::Functions)
 BuildRequires: perl(Module::Load)
-BuildRequires: perl(Text::ParseWords) = 3.22
+BuildRequires: perl(strict)
+BuildRequires: perl(Text::ParseWords) = 3.24
+BuildRequires: perl(warnings)
 # Test Suite
 BuildRequires: perl(Cwd)
-BuildRequires: perl(File::Find)
-BuildRequires: perl(File::Temp)
+BuildRequires: perl(File::Spec)
+BuildRequires: perl(IO::Handle)
+BuildRequires: perl(IPC::Open3)
+BuildRequires: perl(lib)
 BuildRequires: perl(Test::More)
 # Release Tests
 # perl-Pod-Coverage-TrustPod - perl-Pod-Eventual - perl-Mixin-Linewise -
@@ -50,11 +50,6 @@ modules.
 %prep
 %setup -q -n ExtUtils-Helpers-%{version}
 
-# We don't really need Text::ParseWords ≥ 3.24
-%if %{old_tpw}
-%patch2
-%endif
-
 # Test suite needs patching if we have Test::More  0.88
 %if %{old_test_more}
 %patch3
@@ -85,6 +80,13 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %{_mandir}/man3/ExtUtils::Helpers::Windows.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Mar  7 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.022-1
+- Update to 0.022
+  - Cleaned up remains of former functions
+  - Skip IO layers on 5.8 for 5.6 compatibility
+  - Don't swallow pl2bat exceptions
+- Drop patch for using Text::ParseWords  3.24; even EL-5 has it
+
 * Wed Sep  4 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.021-4
 - Skip the release tests when bootstrapping
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 1488811..c0054e3 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-94aa8eaf92def26d9af0cb25fcb1570f  ExtUtils-Helpers-0.021.tar.gz
+cf4fd6f8caa6daac33bc9e93162b  ExtUtils-Helpers-0.022.tar.gz
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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-03-07 Thread buildsys


perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On armhfp:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-03-07 Thread buildsys


perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide 
tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
On i386:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
On armhfp:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
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Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-03-07 Thread buildsys


mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
On i386:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
On armhfp:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi

2014-03-07 Thread buildsys


perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi-0.21-16.fc21.x86_64 requires 
libswipl.so.6.6.1()(64bit)
On i386:
perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi-0.21-16.fc21.i686 requires libswipl.so.6.6.1
On armhfp:
perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi-0.21-16.fc21.armv7hl requires 
libswipl.so.6.6.1
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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[perl-Email-Abstract/epel7] Do not BR packages that are not present in el7

2014-03-07 Thread Lubomir Rintel
commit 6154c8d5bf3654510f44dce7f86edc87113acab5
Author: Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk
Date:   Fri Mar 7 15:02:58 2014 +0100

Do not BR packages that are not present in el7

 perl-Email-Abstract.spec |   10 --
 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Email-Abstract.spec b/perl-Email-Abstract.spec
index ee6f5cd..ad6336d 100644
--- a/perl-Email-Abstract.spec
+++ b/perl-Email-Abstract.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Email-Abstract
 Version:3.007
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:1%{?dist}.1
 Summary:Unified interface to mail representations
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -17,8 +17,11 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.96
 BuildRequires:  perl(lib)
 BuildRequires:  perl(strict)
 BuildRequires:  perl(warnings)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Mail::Message), perl(Scalar::Util)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Scalar::Util)
+%if 0%{?rhel} == 0
+BuildRequires:  perl(Mail::Message)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Email::MIME)
+%endif
 BuildArch:  noarch
 
 Requires:  perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version))
@@ -55,6 +58,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Mar 07 2014 Lubomir Rintel (GoodData) lubo.rin...@gooddata.com - 
3.007-1.1
+- Do not BR packages that are not present in el7
+
 * Wed Jan 08 2014 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 3.007-1
 - Upstream update (RHBZ #1049728).
 - Reflect upstream BR:-changes.
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[perl-ExtUtils-Helpers] Created tag perl-ExtUtils-Helpers-0.022-1.fc21

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-ExtUtils-Helpers-0.022-1.fc21' was created pointing 
to:

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[Bug 1073956] New: perl-Data-Dumper-2.151 is available

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073956

Bug ID: 1073956
   Summary: perl-Data-Dumper-2.151 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Data-Dumper
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: mmasl...@redhat.com,
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Latest upstream release: 2.151
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 2.145-292.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-Dumper/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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[Bug 1073957] New: perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.24 is available

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073957

Bug ID: 1073957
   Summary: perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.24 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com



Latest upstream release: 3.24
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 3.22-1.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/ExtUtils-ParseXS/

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stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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Re: [perl-Email-Abstract/epel7] Do not BR packages that are not present in el7

2014-03-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 03/07/2014 03:03 PM, Lubomir Rintel wrote:

commit 6154c8d5bf3654510f44dce7f86edc87113acab5
Author: Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk
Date:   Fri Mar 7 15:02:58 2014 +0100

 Do not BR packages that are not present in el7

  perl-Email-Abstract.spec |   10 --
  1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Email-Abstract.spec b/perl-Email-Abstract.spec
index ee6f5cd..ad6336d 100644
--- a/perl-Email-Abstract.spec
+++ b/perl-Email-Abstract.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
  Name:   perl-Email-Abstract
  Version:3.007
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:1%{?dist}.1
  Summary:Unified interface to mail representations
  Group:  Development/Libraries
  License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -17,8 +17,11 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.96
  BuildRequires:  perl(lib)
  BuildRequires:  perl(strict)
  BuildRequires:  perl(warnings)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Mail::Message), perl(Scalar::Util)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Scalar::Util)
+%if 0%{?rhel} == 0
+BuildRequires:  perl(Mail::Message)
  BuildRequires:  perl(Email::MIME)
+%endif


Are you sure this step is helpful?

These requirements also are run-time requirements, which means all you 
are doing is to remove BR: which expose runtime-requirements,

but actually are shipping a crippled package.

IMO, the correct fix would be to add the missing perl-modules to rhel 
and not to remove these BRs.


Ralf

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[Bug 1073958] New: perl-Net-GitHub-0.57 is available

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073958

Bug ID: 1073958
   Summary: perl-Net-GitHub-0.57 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Net-GitHub
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: psab...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: mmasl...@redhat.com,
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Latest upstream release: 0.57
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 0.56-1.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-GitHub/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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[Bug 1073964] New: perl-Test-Strict-0.23 is available

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073964

Bug ID: 1073964
   Summary: perl-Test-Strict-0.23 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Test-Strict
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: psab...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
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Latest upstream release: 0.23
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 0.22-2.fc20
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-Strict/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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[Bug 1073967] New: perl-XML-LibXML-2.0111 is available

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073967

Bug ID: 1073967
   Summary: perl-XML-LibXML-2.0111 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-XML-LibXML
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com,
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Latest upstream release: 2.0111
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 2.0110-1.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/XML-LibXML/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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[Bug 1073968] New: perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.89 is available

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073968

Bug ID: 1073968
   Summary: perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.89 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-XML-LibXSLT
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, z...@fastmail.fm



Latest upstream release: 1.89
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 1.88-1.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/XML-LibXSLT/

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[Bug 1073861] please provide epel7 builds

2014-03-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073861

Jan Klepek jan.kle...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED



--- Comment #1 from Jan Klepek jan.kle...@gmail.com ---
i was wondering when epel7 will be ready, this answers that.

branch requested

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[389-devel] please review: Ticket 47729 - Directory Server crashes if shutdown during a replication initialization

2014-03-07 Thread Mark Reynolds

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47729

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47729/0001-Ticket-47729-Directory-Server-crashes-if-shutdown-du.patch

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[389-devel] Please review: [389 Project] #47735: e_uniqueid fails to set if an entry is a conflict entry

2014-03-07 Thread Noriko Hosoi

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47735

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47735/0001-Ticket-47735-e_uniqueid-fails-to-set-if-an-entry-is-.patch

Bug Description:
When an entry is turned to be a conflict entry, its nsUniqueId has
a mdcsn info as a subtype like this:
 nsUniqueId;mdcsn-5319136f00020001: c5e0d787-a58f11e3-b7f9dfd1-acc3d5e4
In this case, the attribute type is assigned to the berval type
as follows:
 type.bv_val = nsUniqueId;mdcsn-5319136f00020001
 type.bv_len = 37
The subtyped stateinfo is processed in 
str2entry_state_information_from_type,

which modifies type.bv_val to nsUniqueId, but type.bv_len remains 37.
str2entry_fast has this logic to set e_uniqueid, where the nsUniqueId
with stateinfo fails to set the value to e_uniqueid.
 if ( type.bv_len == 10 
  PL_strncasecmp (type.bv_val, nsUniqueId, type.bv_len) == 0 ){

Fix Description: This patch resets the length of the type with the
basetype length 10 before the if expression is called for setting
e_uniqueid.

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[389-devel] Please review (take 2): [389 Project] #47735: e_uniqueid fails to set if an entry is a conflict entry

2014-03-07 Thread Noriko Hosoi

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47735/0001-Ticket-47735-e_uniqueid-fails-to-set-if-an-entry-is-.2.patch


   git patch file (master; take 2) -- merged 2 args into 1 in
   str2entry_state_information_from_type (Thanks to Rich for his
   suggestion). 


Noriko Hosoi wrote:

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47735

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47735/0001-Ticket-47735-e_uniqueid-fails-to-set-if-an-entry-is-.patch 



Bug Description:
When an entry is turned to be a conflict entry, its nsUniqueId has
a mdcsn info as a subtype like this:
 nsUniqueId;mdcsn-5319136f00020001: 
c5e0d787-a58f11e3-b7f9dfd1-acc3d5e4

In this case, the attribute type is assigned to the berval type
as follows:
 type.bv_val = nsUniqueId;mdcsn-5319136f00020001
 type.bv_len = 37
The subtyped stateinfo is processed in 
str2entry_state_information_from_type,

which modifies type.bv_val to nsUniqueId, but type.bv_len remains 37.
str2entry_fast has this logic to set e_uniqueid, where the nsUniqueId
with stateinfo fails to set the value to e_uniqueid.
 if ( type.bv_len == 10 
  PL_strncasecmp (type.bv_val, nsUniqueId, type.bv_len) == 0 ){

Fix Description: This patch resets the length of the type with the
basetype length 10 before the if expression is called for setting
e_uniqueid.

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[389-devel] Please review: [389 Project] #47737: Under heavy stress, failure of turning a tombstone into glue makes the server hung

2014-03-07 Thread Noriko Hosoi

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47737

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47737/0001-Ticket-47737-Under-heavy-stress-failure-of-turning-a.patch

  Turning a tombstone entry to a glue entry is done in a while loop
  (create_glue_entry:urp_glue.c)  Unless the transformation is successful
  (or LDAP_NO_SUCH_OBJECT), it cannot exit from the loop.  But under a
  stress, there could be a tombstone and a conflict entry coexist, and
  do_create_glue_entry keeps returning LDAP_ALREADY_EXISTS.  In such a case,
  we need to give up greating a glue.
  {{{
  [..] NSMMReplicationPlugin - conn=7 op=1939 csn=531a144300070003:
  Can't created glue entry
  ou=test,ou=projects,o=bees,ou=organizations,dc=cvsdude,dc=com
  uniqueid=ee68e001-a62811e3-bc8ab407-12c832a2, error 68
  [..] NSMMReplicationPlugin - conn=7 op=1939 csn=531a144300070003:
  Can't created glue entry
  ou=test,ou=projects,o=bees,ou=organizations,dc=cvsdude,dc=com
  uniqueid=ee68e001-a62811e3-bc8ab407-12c832a2, error 68
  [..] NSMMReplicationPlugin - conn=7 op=1939 csn=531a144300070003:
  Can't created glue entry
  ou=test,ou=projects,o=bees,ou=organizations,dc=cvsdude,dc=com
  uniqueid=ee68e001-a62811e3-bc8ab407-12c832a2, error 68
  [..]
  }}}


  {{{
  Thread 32 (Thread 0x7f6ac77fe700 (LWP 24906)):
  #0  0x7f6ae4e3e74d in fsync () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-
  template.S:81
  #1  0x7f6ae5492e8b in pt_Fsync (fd=0x7f6ae81b15c0) at
  ../../../nspr/pr/src/pthreads/ptio.c:1530
  #2  0x7f6ae6e8afe7 in vslapd_log_error (fp=0x7f6ae81b15c0,
  subsystem=0x7f6adb19ad90 NSMMReplicationPlugin,
  fmt=0x7f6adb1a6fa0 %s: Can't created glue entry %s uniqueid=%s, error
  %d\n, ap=0x7f6ac77f7438, locked=1)
  at ldap/servers/slapd/log.c:1953
  #3  0x7f6ae6e8aa52 in slapd_log_error_proc_internal
  (subsystem=0x7f6adb19ad90 NSMMReplicationPlugin,
  fmt=0x7f6adb1a6fa0 %s: Can't created glue entry %s uniqueid=%s, error
  %d\n, ap_err=0x7f6ac77f7420,
  ap_file=0x7f6ac77f7438) at ldap/servers/slapd/log.c:1809
  #4  0x7f6ae6e8b1d5 in slapi_log_error (severity=0,
  subsystem=0x7f6adb19ad90 NSMMReplicationPlugin,
  fmt=0x7f6adb1a6fa0 %s: Can't created glue entry %s uniqueid=%s, error
  %d\n) at ldap/servers/slapd/log.c:1994
  #5  0x7f6adb17a6b3 in create_glue_entry (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90,
  sessionid=0x7f6ac77f7690 conn=7 op=1939 csn=531a144300070003,
  dn=0x7f6aa40c6370,
  uniqueid=0x7f6aa40bee60 ee68e001-a62811e3-bc8ab407-12c832a2,
  opcsn=0x7f6aa40bee40)
  at ldap/servers/plugins/replication/urp_glue.c:257
  #6  0x7f6adb1791eb in urp_add_resolve_parententry (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90,
  sessionid=0x7f6ac77f7690 conn=7 op=1939 csn=531a144300070003,
  entry=0x7f6aa40badf0, parententry=0x0,
  opcsn=0x7f6aa40bee40) at ldap/servers/plugins/replication/urp.c:908
  #7  0x7f6adb177e29 in urp_add_operation (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90) at
  ldap/servers/plugins/replication/urp.c:165
  #8  0x7f6adb15ae22 in multimaster_bepreop_add (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90) at
  ldap/servers/plugins/replication/repl5_plugins.c:711
  #9  0x7f6ae6eade99 in plugin_call_func (list=0x7f6ae830fd90,
  operation=450, pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90, call_one=0)
  at ldap/servers/slapd/plugin.c:1453
  #10 0x7f6ae6eadd59 in plugin_call_list (list=0x7f6ae830fd90,
  operation=450, pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90)
  at ldap/servers/slapd/plugin.c:1415
  #11 0x7f6ae6eabfe1 in plugin_call_plugins (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90,
  whichfunction=450) at ldap/servers/slapd/plugin.c:398
  #12 0x7f6adc085696 in ldbm_back_add (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90) at
  ldap/servers/slapd/back-ldbm/ldbm_add.c:257
  #13 0x7f6ae6e478aa in op_shared_add (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90) at
  ldap/servers/slapd/add.c:681
  #14 0x7f6ae6e468b4 in do_add (pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90) at
  ldap/servers/slapd/add.c:258
  #15 0x7f6ae7379935 in connection_dispatch_operation
  (conn=0x7f6ae71e3f48, op=0x7f6aa40b6330, pb=0x7f6aa40b7f90)
  at ldap/servers/slapd/connection.c:579
  #16 0x7f6ae737b32c in connection_threadmain () at
  ldap/servers/slapd/connection.c:2339
  #17 0x7f6ae5494c86 in _pt_root (arg=0x7f6ae84eb130) at
  ../../../nspr/pr/src/pthreads/ptthread.c:204
  #18 0x7f6ae4e37d15 in start_thread (arg=0x7f6ac77fe700) at
  pthread_create.c:308
  #19 0x7f6ae495453d in clone () at
  ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:114
  }}}



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