Re: Plan to deprecate pytz in Fedora 35+

2021-02-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:39:30PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 18. 02. 21 17:16, Felix Schwarz wrote:
> >Hi Miro,
> >
> >I can understand the desire to remove pytz and I have to mention
> >that I don't have any specific upstream feedback.
> >
> >However certbot/babel do support pretty old versions of Python.
> >Adding a separate code path for Python 3.x+ might be a pretty
> >tough sell and might contribute to the "let's advertise snaps only
> >for distribution" mindset.

I think there shouldn't be resistance from certbot to drop the dependency.
certbot should be deployable in really minimal environments, so I expect
people would be happy to drop the dependency.

Zbyszek

> Hi Felix.
> 
> Disclaimer: We are not removing pytz as long as there are packages
> that depend on it.
> 
> For babel, I follow this: https://github.com/python-babel/babel/issues/716
> 
> Since we have marked the pytz package unwanted for ELN and we have
> babel in ELN (trough sphinx), we'll most likely try to help there
> (or get rid of babel from ELN's sphinx).
> 
> BTW There's backports.zoneinfo for Python 3.6+, so we'll see how
> long babel needs to support Python 2.
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Fedora-Cloud-33-20210219.0 compose check report

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210218.0):

ID: 782628  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782628
ID: 782640  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782640

Passed openQA tests: 6/7 (x86_64), 6/7 (aarch64)
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[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2021-02-19 - 95% PASS

2021-02-18 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2021/02/19/report-389-ds-base-2.0.3-20210219git845e0f9ff.fc33.x86_64.html
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License field correction: python-pyrsistent is now “MIT and BSD” instead of “MIT”

2021-02-18 Thread Benjamin Beasley
The License field for python-pyrsistent is now “MIT and BSD” instead of “MIT”; 
this is a correction rather than an upstream change.
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[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2021-02-18 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  10  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-87e6bb3010   
chromium-88.0.4324.150-1.el8
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-610589457a   
prosody-0.11.8-1.el8
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-bfa4482ae0   
libmysofa-1.2-4.el8


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing

koji-1.24.0-1.el8

Details about builds:



 koji-1.24.0-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2021-83d966f8b3)
 Build system tools

Update Information:

Update to 1.24.0 upstream release. See https://pagure.io/koji/blob/master/f/docs
/source/release_notes/release_notes_1.24.rst for more details

ChangeLog:

* Thu Feb 18 2021 Kevin Fenzi  - 1.24.0-1
- Update to 1.24.0. Fixes rhbz#1930032


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Retired standalone man-pages-it in favor of man-pages-l10n subpackage

2021-02-18 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Hi,

FYI, I have retired the standalone man-pages-it package, which is superseded 
by a recently added subpackage (with higher EVR) of man-pages-l10n, on 
F34/Branched and Rawhide. See:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1930270

man-pages-l10n is the new upstream for Italian translations of manpages.

Kevin Kofler
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[Bug 1919730] Please build perl-Net-XMPP for EPEL 8

2021-02-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919730
Bug 1919730 depends on bug 1919731, which changed state.

Bug 1919731 Summary: Please build perl-XML-Stream for EPEL 8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919731

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1919731] Please build perl-XML-Stream for EPEL 8

2021-02-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919731

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-XML-Stream-1.24-17.el8
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2021-02-19 01:10:58



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2021-c5324b6008 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 stable
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If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[389-devel] please review: PR 4636 - UI - Migrate Toast Notifications to PF4 Alerts

2021-02-18 Thread Mark Reynolds

https://github.com/389ds/389-ds-base/pull/4636

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OCaml 4.12

2021-02-18 Thread Jerry James
Richard, I see that the OCaml 4.12 release is not expected to happen
until next week, after the beta freeze:

https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/ocaml-4-12-0-first-release-candidate/7294

Some of my OCaml packages are currently not installable, due to the
dynlink hiccup, I think.  Rather than enter beta freeze with them in
this state, I would like to rebuild them.  I was thinking about
proceeding with the updates needed for OCaml 4.12, since I have to
build these packages anyway, and the updated versions also work with
OCaml 4.11.  As a reminder, these are the updates:

- ocaml-base: 0.14.0 -> 0.14.1
- ocaml-migrate-parsetree: 1.8.0 -> 2.1.0
- ocaml-ppxlib: 0.15.0 -> 0.22.0
- ocaml-bisect-ppx: 2.5.0 -> 2.6.0
- ocaml-tyxml: apply this pull request to switch to ppxlib:
https://github.com/ocsigen/tyxml/pull/271
- ocaml-lwt: 5.3.0 -> 5.4.0
- ocaml-ppx-deriving: 5.1 -> 5.2.1
- ocaml-ppx-optcomp: 0.14.0 -> 0.14.1
- ocaml-ppx-sexp-conv: 0.14.1 -> 0.14.2
- ocaml-sedlex: 2.2 -> 2.3
- ocaml-ppx-custom-printf: 0.14.0 -> 0.14.1
- ocaml-ppx-fields-conv: 0.14.1 -> 0.14.2
- Retire ocaml-ppx-tools-versioned

along with a number of other package builds just to fix dependencies.
That would also simplify things for you when OCaml 4.12 is released,
as all of these updates would already be in place.  What do you think?

Also, I would like to update ocaml-ocamlgraph to version 2.0.0 at some
point.  The only Fedora consumers are frama-c and ocaml-dose3.  The
current version of frama-c can already be built with either ocamlgraph
1.x or 2.x.  The version of ocaml-dose3 in Fedora (5.0.1) cannot be
built with ocamlgraph 2.x.  However, upstream has moved here:

https://gitlab.com/irill/dose3

and released a 6.x series that supports ocamlgraph 2.x.
Unfortunately, there are issues with moving to version 6.x.  First,
and easiest, the new versions depend on camlbz2 and parmap, neither of
which are in Fedora.  I've put together spec files for those two and
can submit them for review if nobody else wants to do so.  Second,
upstream removed support for RPM in this commit:

https://gitlab.com/irill/dose3/-/commit/e656b5783f1fc5fd75e0e2716b0a40aca282ad72

I don't know why.  The commit message does not give a reason, and this
change is not mentioned in the project changelog.  I assume RPM
support is important for the Fedora build of ocaml-dose3.  I don't
know what the best approach is to resolve this issue, but it is
blocking the ocamlgraph update.  Any thoughts on the matter are
appreciated.

Regards,
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HEADS UP: Python dist RPM generators switched from "pkg_resources" to "packaging"

2021-02-18 Thread Miro Hrončok

Hello Pythonistas,

We have just shipped a medium size implementation chanage of Python dist RPM 
generators (the thing that automatically generates python3.Xdist(...) / 
python3dist(...) requires and provides).


Details:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-generators/pull-request/30

We don't anticipate issues, but if you see some troubles wrt python3.Xdist() or 
 python3dist() dependencies in Fedora 34+, do let me know.


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Re: granite soname bump and wingpanel library name change

2021-02-18 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 6:14 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> The elementary OS 6 development is finally heading towards the finish
> line, and the upcoming granite and wingpanel updates will have an
> soname change (granite) and a renamed library (wingpanel-2 ->
> wingpanel-3). In both cases, the ABI change is primarily caused by the
> removal of long deprecated APIs.
>
> I have been doing nightly builds [0] of all elementary / Pantheon
> components against the new versions of both libraries for a while, and
> I have not seen any problems related to the use of those two
> libraries.
>
> I will update granite and wingpanel next week for both Rawhide and
> F34. If no stable release is available for granite and wingpanel at
> that point (which is likely), I will use a pre-release snapshot
> (upstream has assured me that no further ABI changes are planned
> between now and the final release). I have been testing nightly
> snapshots on Fedora 34 for a while, and the snapshot builds are
> already comparable wrt. stability to the latest stable builds that are
> currently available on Fedora.
>
> I know that this is kinda late for F34, but not doing it for F34 would
> limit any future elementary / Pantheon updates to Fedora 35+. The
> elementary OS 6 release (based on ubuntu 20.04 LTS) is coming together
> much later than expected, and this is why I waited so long with
> pushing these two library changes, but the upcoming F34 Beta Freeze
> means there's no more waiting :)
>
> All builds will be done by me in side tags in the correct order
> (granite ← plank ← gala ← wingpanel ← other builds). I am main
> maintainer of most dependent packages (not listed below), but I will
> also handle rebuilds of packages owned by other packagers:

I have started the builds for rawhide and f34 today, and have not
encountered any trouble so far.

However, submitting all ~80 builds will take a while, since there are
no stable releases of most components yet and I need to update most
packages to git snapshots to get support for the latest libraries.

After the builds that require switching to snapshot builds are done, I
will submit the "plain rebuilds":

> - agenda
> - appeditor
> - bookworm
> - coin
> - dippi
> - elementary-planner
> - ephemeral
> - fondo
> - harvey
> - minder
> - notes-up
> - nutty
> - optimizer
> - quilter
> - sequeler
> - taxi
> - vgrive

I hope to be able to finish the side tag builds and submit bodhi
updates for them by tomorrow or Saturday.

Fabio
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Fedora-34-20210218.n.0 compose check report

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images:

Xfce raw-xz armhfp

Failed openQA tests: 25/183 (x86_64), 22/124 (aarch64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-34-20210217.n.0):

ID: 781834  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781834
ID: 781853  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781853
ID: 781858  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781858
ID: 781862  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_browser
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781862
ID: 781865  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781865
ID: 781866  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781866
ID: 781955  Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz desktop_printing@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781955
ID: 782073  Test: aarch64 universal support_server@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782073
ID: 782080  Test: aarch64 universal install_iscsi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782080
ID: 782304  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_login
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782304
ID: 782305  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782305

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-34-20210217.n.0):

ID: 781783  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso mediakit_repoclosure
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781783
ID: 781896  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso mediakit_repoclosure@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781896
ID: 781902  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_btrfs_preserve_home@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781902
ID: 781907  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_freeipa_replication_master@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781907
ID: 781908  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
install_blivet_btrfs_preserve_home_uefi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781908
ID: 781914  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_role_deploy_domain_controller@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781914
ID: 781916  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781916
ID: 781917  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_freeipa_replication_replica@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781917
ID: 781928  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join_kickstart@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781928
ID: 781932  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781932
ID: 781933  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_freeipa_replication_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781933
ID: 781952  Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz desktop_browser@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781952
ID: 781975  Test: x86_64 universal install_arabic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781975
ID: 781982  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781982
ID: 781990  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781990
ID: 781991  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781991
ID: 781992  Test: x86_64 universal install_cyrillic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781992
ID: 781995  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781995
ID: 781996  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781996
ID: 782022  Test: x86_64 universal install_package_set_kde
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782022
ID: 782034  Test: x86_64 universal install_european_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782034
ID: 782047  Test: aarch64 universal install_arabic_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782047
ID: 782054  Test: aarch64 universal install_asian_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782054
ID: 782062  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782062
ID: 782065  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782065
ID: 782067  Test: aarch64 universal install_cyrillic_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782067
ID: 782069  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782069
ID: 782079  Test: aarch64 universal install_european_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782079
ID: 782085  

Review swap

2021-02-18 Thread Jerry James
Hi all,

Recent versions of jmol have a new dependency, jni-inchi:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1929958

Who would like to swap reviews?
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Fedora-IoT-34-20210218.0 compose check report

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 4/15 (aarch64), 1/16 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-34-20210215.0):

ID: 782296  Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso podman@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782296
ID: 782302  Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso podman_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782302

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-IoT-34-20210215.0):

ID: 782283  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782283
ID: 782288  Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782288
ID: 782297  Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782297

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/16 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-IoT-34-20210215.0):

ID: 782273  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/782273

Passed openQA tests: 14/16 (x86_64), 11/15 (aarch64)
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[389-devel] please review: PR 4635 - UI - Migrate CustomCollapse to PF4 ExpandableSection

2021-02-18 Thread Mark Reynolds

https://github.com/389ds/389-ds-base/pull/4635

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[EPEL-devel] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Committee

2021-02-18 Thread tdawson
Dear all,

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[Test-Announce] Fedora-IoT 34 RC 20210218.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2021-02-18 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora-IoT 34 RC 20210218.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
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Re: Plan to deprecate pytz in Fedora 35+

2021-02-18 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 18. 02. 21 17:16, Felix Schwarz wrote:

Hi Miro,

I can understand the desire to remove pytz and I have to mention that I don't 
have any specific upstream feedback.


However certbot/babel do support pretty old versions of Python. Adding a 
separate code path for Python 3.x+ might be a pretty tough sell and might 
contribute to the "let's advertise snaps only for distribution" mindset.


Hi Felix.

Disclaimer: We are not removing pytz as long as there are packages that depend 
on it.


For babel, I follow this: https://github.com/python-babel/babel/issues/716

Since we have marked the pytz package unwanted for ELN and we have babel in ELN 
(trough sphinx), we'll most likely try to help there (or get rid of babel from 
ELN's sphinx).


BTW There's backports.zoneinfo for Python 3.6+, so we'll see how long babel 
needs to support Python 2.


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Re: Don't update to the latest f33! (fwd)

2021-02-18 Thread David Both



Thanks for this information. See in-line.

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, Michael Catanzaro wrote:


 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 10:46:53
 From: Michael Catanzaro 
 Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora
 
 To: David Both 
 Cc: Development discussions related to Fedora
 ,
 Steve Dickson 
 Subject: Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 10:39 am, David Both  wrote:


  Ok, so I manage my network using DHCP on an internal server for all except
  that server and my Linux firewall/router which both use a complete static
  configuration for networking.

  My DHCP server does provide DNS resolver information which, in order, is
  my internal BIND server (same physical server host), 8.8.8.8, and 8.8.4.4.
  But my hosts were not getting that information. I think the difference
  between the working and failing hosts is possibly (experiments required)
  left-over ifcfg files some of which specified DHCP but also name servers
  while others specified DHCP but did not specify name servers, as well as
  some newer hosts that do not have any ifcfg files. I have also noticed
  that ifcfg files are no longer created automatically but work when
  created. I missed that information also.


 OK, so DHCP is not working somehow. Are you running NetworkManager? That is
 my #1 guess right now, because without NetworkManager, you have no easy way
 to get DNS configuration from DHCP to systemd-resolved. systemd-resolved
 doesn't configure itself: that's the responsibility of a higher-level
 management layer, usually NetworkManager, or alternatively systemd-networkd.
 You can configure it manually with your own scripts if you're really
 hardcore. But if you have disabled NetworkManager, then my recommendation
 would be to disable systemd-resolved as well. If you *are* running
 NetworkManager, then unfortunately we're probably going to need to debug
 NetworkManager to figure out why the configuration from DHCP is getting
 dropped. I don't know how to help with that, but that also seems unlikely
 because nobody has reported bugs related to that as far as I know.

 If you are running NetworkManager, here are some more general
 troubleshooting steps that I had typed up to send before reading the above:


I am running NetworkManager. I had disabled and stopped systemd-resolved on GP 
after other hosts failed. After starting systemd-resolved everything looks to 
be configured correctly:


[root@david ~]# resolvectl
Global
Protocols: LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported
 resolv.conf mode: foreign
 DNS Servers: 192.168.0.52
Fallback DNS Servers: 1.1.1.1 8.8.8.8 1.0.0.1 8.8.4.4 2606:4700:4700:: 
2001:4860:4860:: 2606:4700:4700::1001 2001:4860:4860::8844

   DNS Domain: both.org

Link 2 (enp0s31f6)
Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6
  Protocols: +DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported
DNS Servers: 192.168.0.52 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
 DNS Domain: both.org ~.

Link 3 (vboxnet0)
Current Scopes: none
  Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported

But everything is working and has been on my primary workstation - which is why 
I did not see this until I upgraded to F33 on other hosts. This host has no 
ifcfg file.


I really need to experiment with this a bit. I will get back to you with my 
results.




 The most important thing to do is to check the output of 'resolvectl' and
 look for anything suspicious. Ideally the DNS server you want things going
 to will be listed under each desired network interface with +DefaultRoute
 set. Hopefully something will be obviously wrong there, but if not, you can
 post the output of 'resolvectl' here for us to take a look.

 To ensure systemd-resolved's configuration doesn't get bypassed, you'll also
 want to ensure you're running Fedora's new default configuration, which you
 should be, since users should be automatically upgraded. But just in case,
 it's good to check:

 * Ensure NetworkManager is running ('systemctl status
 NetworkManager.service'). If not, you're on your own and should consider
 disabling systemd-resolved since it's not worth trying to use manually.
 * Ensure systemd-resolved is running: 'systemctl status
 systemd-resolved.service'
 * Ensure /etc/resolv.conf is symlinked to
 /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf (this ensures anything reading it
 manually gets pointed to systemd-resolved's IP address, 127.0.0.53)
 * Ensure the hosts line in 

Re: Plan to deprecate pytz in Fedora 35+

2021-02-18 Thread Felix Schwarz

Hi Miro,

I can understand the desire to remove pytz and I have to mention that I don't 
have any specific upstream feedback.


However certbot/babel do support pretty old versions of Python. Adding a 
separate code path for Python 3.x+ might be a pretty tough sell and might 
contribute to the "let's advertise snaps only for distribution" mindset.


Felix
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Fedora 34 compose report: 20210218.n.0 changes

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-34-20210217.n.0
NEW: Fedora-34-20210218.n.0

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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 10:39 am, David Both  
wrote:


Ok, so I manage my network using DHCP on an internal server for all 
except that server and my Linux firewall/router which both use a 
complete static configuration for networking.


My DHCP server does provide DNS resolver information which, in order, 
is my internal BIND server (same physical server host), 8.8.8.8, and 
8.8.4.4. But my hosts were not getting that information. I think the 
difference between the working and failing hosts is possibly 
(experiments required) left-over ifcfg files some of which specified 
DHCP but also name servers while others specified DHCP but did not 
specify name servers, as well as some newer hosts that do not have 
any ifcfg files. I have also noticed that ifcfg files are no longer 
created automatically but work when created. I missed that 
information also.


OK, so DHCP is not working somehow. Are you running NetworkManager? 
That is my #1 guess right now, because without NetworkManager, you have 
no easy way to get DNS configuration from DHCP to systemd-resolved. 
systemd-resolved doesn't configure itself: that's the responsibility of 
a higher-level management layer, usually NetworkManager, or 
alternatively systemd-networkd. You can configure it manually with your 
own scripts if you're really hardcore. But if you have disabled 
NetworkManager, then my recommendation would be to disable 
systemd-resolved as well. If you *are* running NetworkManager, then 
unfortunately we're probably going to need to debug NetworkManager to 
figure out why the configuration from DHCP is getting dropped. I don't 
know how to help with that, but that also seems unlikely because nobody 
has reported bugs related to that as far as I know.


If you are running NetworkManager, here are some more general 
troubleshooting steps that I had typed up to send before reading the 
above:


The most important thing to do is to check the output of 'resolvectl' 
and look for anything suspicious. Ideally the DNS server you want 
things going to will be listed under each desired network interface 
with +DefaultRoute set. Hopefully something will be obviously wrong 
there, but if not, you can post the output of 'resolvectl' here for us 
to take a look.


To ensure systemd-resolved's configuration doesn't get bypassed, you'll 
also want to ensure you're running Fedora's new default configuration, 
which you should be, since users should be automatically upgraded. But 
just in case, it's good to check:


* Ensure NetworkManager is running ('systemctl status 
NetworkManager.service'). If not, you're on your own and should 
consider disabling systemd-resolved since it's not worth trying to use 
manually.
* Ensure systemd-resolved is running: 'systemctl status 
systemd-resolved.service'
* Ensure /etc/resolv.conf is symlinked to 
/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf (this ensures anything reading it 
manually gets pointed to systemd-resolved's IP address, 127.0.0.53)
* Ensure the hosts line in /etc/nsswitch.conf looks like this: files 
mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] myhostname dns


(Remember to never edit /etc/nsswitch.conf manually, instead edit 
/etc/authselect/user-nsswitch.conf and then run 'sudo authselect 
apply-changes'.)


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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread David Both

;-)

Response to earlier email:

Thanks for the informative response Michael.

I plan to read the content at those links in some depth. What I see so far does 
describe how name resolution now works and hints at why this is being done. Even
had I read that it would not have prepared me for the possibility that the 
resolver would fail so completely in my relatively simple environment. Nor does 
it
suggest how to return to a working resolver, either by returning to either nss 
option or correcting the systemd-resolved configuration -- and I still do not

know how to approach that. I will continue to read.

I guess that there are more places to get the information than I have previously 
been aware, but that still doesn't mean that most users will find it or
understand it. I read stuff like this all the time but totally missed that. I 
can't imagine how most regular users and busy-to-their-eyeballs sysadmins will 
run

across this and then know how to connect the dots between change and symptom.

It took me a good bit of experimenting to figure out that /etc/resolv.conf is 
now just a link and the specific link used defines how name resolution actually
works. My usual procedure with resolver problems is to cat /etc/resolv.conf but 
that does not tell me it is a link. I only realized that a major change had been
made by doing a long listing while looking for old or conflicting files. Then I 
was on track to figure it out.


I think your statement about name resolution being bad would only be true if I
were part of one of the edge cases for which the old way failed. This is from a 
user standpoint where "all is good until it fails" rather than a developer
standpoint where "it suck behind the scenes so it needs fixed even if it breaks 
things for a while."


I do like most of what systemd does. I do think that perhaps better testing of 
possible failure modes and circumstances as well as communication of possible 
problems, their symptoms, known fixes, and circumventions would help. And it 
needs to be obvious to anyone looking for that information.






Response to this email:

Ok, so I manage my network using DHCP on an internal server for all except that 
server and my Linux firewall/router which both use a complete static 
configuration for networking.


My DHCP server does provide DNS resolver information which, in order, is my 
internal BIND server (same physical server host), 8.8.8.8, and 8.8.4.4. But my 
hosts were not getting that information. I think the difference between the 
working and failing hosts is possibly (experiments required) left-over ifcfg 
files some of which specified DHCP but also name servers while others specified 
DHCP but did not specify name servers, as well as some newer hosts that do not 
have any ifcfg files. I have also noticed that ifcfg files are no longer created 
automatically but work when created. I missed that information also.




I am willing to help with this.

Thanks!



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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, Michael Catanzaro wrote:


Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:34:52
From: Michael Catanzaro 
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora

To: David Both ,
Development discussions related to Fedora 
Cc: Steve Dickson 
Subject: Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:30 am, Michael Catanzaro  
wrote:

 We don't set DNS there intentionally because it eliminates any benefit of
 using split DNS. Your static global DNS= configuration in resolved.conf is
 used for *every* request, *in addition* to per-link DNS configuration. So
 if you have per-link DNS configuration from DHCP -- which almost everybody
 will except in cloud environments like this -- then you would wind up with
 two parallel DNS queries going out for every lookup, where whichever
 finishes first wins. That's not a good default.


Well I should clarify: it *is* a good default for cloud or server 
environments where it is guaranteed that DHCP will not provide any DNS 
configuration and you just need a simple, static DNS config. So if the cloud 
provider inserted its DNS config here, that was probably the right thing to 
do. It just needs to not use commas. :P


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Re: ELN SIG Launch

2021-02-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:19:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> * All Fedora hardware resources are provided/funded by Red Hat, Inc.
> * This project is taking place within the Fedora community and infrastructure.
> * This project is clearly beneficial to Red Hat, Inc.
> * Projects beneficial to Red Hat, Inc. tend to get additional funding
> and personnel over time which benefits Fedora as a whole.

I want to add an additional thing:

Is Red Hat getting preferential treatment here? No. Anyone else wants to
show up with hardware, funding, dedicated work time, and other resources to
work on something in Fedora that fits within our mission and fits our
values, and we'll work to figure out a way to fit it in.



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Re: Status update for the new AAA system

2021-02-18 Thread Aurelien Bompard
Hey folks!

Some update since last time:
- we re-ran the import script with the suggested optimisation, it was faster 
but still took about 52 hours, so we'll run an incremental updater until we go 
to prod. There are still ways we can cut down on the number of imported 
accounts (not importing disabled accounts for example).
- we're making progress on the 2FA issue, still ironing out the details
- we're also hardening the security settings for the new webapp, Noggin, so 
that it fits our application security policy.

At that point our aim is to migrate production early March.
We'll keep you posted!

Aurélien
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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread Tomasz Torcz
Dnia Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 02:37:54PM +, Sven Kieske napisał(a):
> On Do, 2021-02-18 at 08:30 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Fedora will never configure static DNS servers for you in 
> > 
> > resolved.conf. That config file was manually edited with improper 
> > 
> > syntax to wind up in this broken state. My guess is that it was edited 
> > 
> > by the VPS provider, but who knows.
> 
> still, as a user and sysadmin I would expect
> any service to loudly complain (at least in a logfile)
> about syntax errors in it's configfile, no matter how
> the wrong config got there in the end, if by cfgmgmt, hand edited
> or other system tools.
> 
> but there is no such warning, or did I miss this information?

It complains for me:

% rg ^DNS= /etc/systemd/resolved.conf 
19:DNS=1.1.1.1,1.0.0.1

systemd-resolved[23515]: Failed to add DNS server address '1.1.1.1,1.0.0.1', 
ignoring: Invalid argument

This is with systemd-246.10-1.fc33.x86_64

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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread Sven Kieske
On Do, 2021-02-18 at 08:30 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Fedora will never configure static DNS servers for you in 
> 
> resolved.conf. That config file was manually edited with improper 
> 
> syntax to wind up in this broken state. My guess is that it was edited 
> 
> by the VPS provider, but who knows.

still, as a user and sysadmin I would expect
any service to loudly complain (at least in a logfile)
about syntax errors in it's configfile, no matter how
the wrong config got there in the end, if by cfgmgmt, hand edited
or other system tools.

but there is no such warning, or did I miss this information?

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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:30 am, Michael Catanzaro 
 wrote:
We don't set DNS there intentionally because it eliminates any 
benefit of using split DNS. Your static global DNS= configuration in 
resolved.conf is used for *every* request, *in addition* to per-link 
DNS configuration. So if you have per-link DNS configuration from 
DHCP -- which almost everybody will except in cloud environments like 
this -- then you would wind up with two parallel DNS queries going 
out for every lookup, where whichever finishes first wins. That's not 
a good default.


Well I should clarify: it *is* a good default for cloud or server 
environments where it is guaranteed that DHCP will not provide any DNS 
configuration and you just need a simple, static DNS config. So if the 
cloud provider inserted its DNS config here, that was probably the 
right thing to do. It just needs to not use commas. :P


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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Fedora will never configure static DNS servers for you in 
resolved.conf. That config file was manually edited with improper 
syntax to wind up in this broken state. My guess is that it was edited 
by the VPS provider, but who knows.


We don't set DNS there intentionally because it eliminates any benefit 
of using split DNS. Your static global DNS= configuration in 
resolved.conf is used for *every* request, *in addition* to per-link 
DNS configuration. So if you have per-link DNS configuration from DHCP 
-- which almost everybody will except in cloud environments like this 
-- then you would wind up with two parallel DNS queries going out for 
every lookup, where whichever finishes first wins. That's not a good 
default.


On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 6:52 am, David Both  
wrote:
I do not believe that this is just about lack of fallback and the 
silent fail.
Although that is probably true, it is also about the "silent" change 
from nss to

systemd-resolved and THEN the silent change to zero default fallback.

There was a series of silent changes that brought this failure to 
light.


There are different opinions on the fallback. The opinion that won in 
the end was removing the fallback to expose problems rather than hide 
them. I think that's an OK end result, but I agree it's unfortunate 
that happened in a post-release update such that installing updates can 
break a "working" (sort of) configuration. There's not really anything 
to be done about it now.


Everything still goes through nss, and you can switch from nss-resolve 
back to nss-dns if you want to (but it will be worse).


Not only do I not see the need for a change to a new name service 
client, the
lack of information about the changeover to users outside this list 
is a
terrible example for its lack of communication. Although I try to 
read the
release notes I sometimes seem to miss things or fail to read them 
altogether.


In addition to the release notes:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved#Release_Notes

And the discussion of upgrade/compatibility impact on the change page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved#Upgrade.2Fcompatibility_impact

We also have two blog posts:

https://fedoramagazine.org/systemd-resolved-introduction-to-split-dns/

https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2020/12/17/understanding-systemd-resolved-split-dns-and-vpn-configuration/

In particular, my blog post attempts to explain how terrible our DNS 
resolution was without systemd-resolved. It was bad. Fedora users 
deserve a decent DNS resolver.


Exception: I suspect we might have a real problem for cloud servers 
without DHCP, which I reported in 
https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/10.



My remaining question is, where can I find a complete description of
systemd-resolved and what its design goals are?


systemd-resolved(8)

There is also this upstream documentation on how systemd-resolved 
handles VPNs:


https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/docs/RESOLVED-VPNS.md

That's specific to VPN configuration and intended for people writing 
third-party VPN software, but it shows pretty clearly exactly how 
systemd-resolved decides where to send your DNS, so if you are really 
trying to understand it's good to read.


Michael

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Plan to deprecate pytz in Fedora 35+

2021-02-18 Thread Miro Hrončok

Hello Pythonistas,

We (me and Gwyn) plan to deprecate pytz in Fedora 35+:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecatePytz

The change is not submitted yet because of missing content in this section:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecatePytz#How_to_migrate_to_the_standard_library

I'm sending it here to the Fedora's Python list for early feedback before I 
collect some links to put into that section.


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Re: Change in glibc about _STAT_VER in Fedora rawhide?

2021-02-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2020-11-27 at 12:28 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Jan Pazdziora:
> 
> > So do you recommend for fakechroot to hardcode something like
> > 
> > --- a/src/libfakechroot.h
> > +++ b/src/libfakechroot.h
> > @@ -224,4 +224,14 @@ int fakechroot_try_cmd_subst (char *, const
> > char *, char *);
> >  int snprintf(char *, size_t, const char *, ...);
> >  #endif
> > 
> > +#ifndef _STAT_VER
> > +#if defined (__aarch64__)
> > +#define _STAT_VER 0
> > +#elif defined (__x86_64__)
> > +#define _STAT_VER 1
> > +#else
> > +#define _STAT_VER 3
> > +#endif
> > +#endif
> > +
> >  #endif
> > 
> > for all the arches?
> 
> Yes, the fakeroot case is really quite unusual, I think.

I just fixed fakeroot build on F35 , but the same fix doesn't work for
F34 ?!?


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889862#c16


> > > There's a Fedora-specific hack in rawhide glibc to bring back the
> > > __xstat and related symbols for linking.  This in the process of
> > > being
> > > upstreamed.
> > 
> > Does that include __fxstatat64? And is the hack already in
> > glibc-2.32.9000-16.fc34 or is it on the way to rawhide?
> 
> Looking at the current rawhide buildroot, it's already there:
> 
> # eu-readelf --symbols=.dynsym /lib64/libc.so.6 | grep __fxstat64
>  1059: 000f1880 84 FUNCGLOBAL DEFAULT   15
> __fxstat64@@GLIBC_2.2.5
> 
> The @@ means it's available for linking.
> 
> It's missing from upstream right now, but we'll fix that before the
> upstream release.
> 
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Re: ELN SIG Launch

2021-02-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:25 AM Stephen Gallagher  wrote:
> Is this a Fedora project or a Red Hat project using Fedora resources?
>
> Yes.

OK, so this was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek joke as a way to
acknowledge the question that came up in the original ELN discussions
and identify that the answer is essentially "both". This was much
clearer in the original draft of this email that I wrote when it was
followed by a FAQ entry titled "Can you just say the quiet part out
loud, please?" I reworked that into the "What is the benefit of ELN?"
section and the nuance of the relationship between the two questions
was lost. I should have dropped the joke question to avoid
side-tracking the conversation.

FWIW, Stephen Smoogen had it mostly right in his response, but I'll
state it here:

* All Fedora hardware resources are provided/funded by Red Hat, Inc.
* This project is taking place within the Fedora community and infrastructure.
* This project is clearly beneficial to Red Hat, Inc.
* Projects beneficial to Red Hat, Inc. tend to get additional funding
and personnel over time which benefits Fedora as a whole.

> What is the benefit of ELN?
>
> The advent and refocus of CentOS Stream has provided a clearer story around 
> RHEL development. Fedora remains the development hub for the next major RHEL 
> release, while CentOS Stream fills that upstream role for stabilization and 
> updates. Thus, some of us have started exploring ways to ensure that Fedora 
> builds on its valuable position in the ecosystem.
>
>
> We decided to focus on streamlining the process by which Fedora is forked and 
> becomes Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Historically, we would pick a Fedora 
> release, replicate its dist-git history internally and then proceed to make 
> all the changes, tweaks, and hideous hacks needed to bootstrap RHEL. All of 
> this would take place “behind the firewall,” and while we would usually pull 
> in many of the changes from at least one subsequent Fedora release, for the 
> most part this was effectively closed-source development from this point 
> onwards until release.
>
>
> With CentOS Stream on the horizon, plans are already in motion for more of 
> the internal mechanisms being made public and visible. Therefore we decided 
> to look at making the bootstrapping process a more continuous effort, rather 
> than a complex ritual performed once every three years at midnight during a 
> full moon. Thus, the seeds of ELN were born.
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Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

2021-02-18 Thread David Both


I do not believe that this is just about lack of fallback and the silent fail. 
Although that is probably true, it is also about the "silent" change from nss to 
systemd-resolved and THEN the silent change to zero default fallback.


There was a series of silent changes that brought this failure to light.

Not only do I not see the need for a change to a new name service client, the 
lack of information about the changeover to users outside this list is a 
terrible example for its lack of communication. Although I try to read the 
release notes I sometimes seem to miss things or fail to read them altogether.


I am not sure I know how that bit can be fixed but I think it is an organic part 
of this failure. Perhaps such deep and basic changes should be mentioned in the 
release announcements along with a BOLO for related failures.


Do not misunderstand me. I really like systemd overall. Perhaps you have seen my 
series of articles about various systemd tools at Opensource.com. But this bit 
does seem a little extreme. I think I have an idea for a new article. "The 
layers of Linux." ;-)


Anyway, my personal approach to this is a return to nss by disabling 
systemd-resolved until the problem is well and truly fixed. And my name 
resolution is now working exactly as it should.


My remaining question is, where can I find a complete description of 
systemd-resolved and what its design goals are?


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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, Ed Greshko wrote:


Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:11:12
From: Ed Greshko 
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora

To: Steve Dickson ,
Development discussions related to Fedora 
Subject: Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

On 18/02/2021 09:18, Steve Dickson wrote:


 On 2/17/21 6:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

 On 18/02/2021 05:11, Steve Dickson wrote:

 I agree... ignoring syntax error or parsing error just does not seem
 like the appropriate thing to do... Error out! Tell me what is broken
 so I can fix it!!

 Replace the "," with a " " in the DNS= entry of
 /etc/systemd/resolved.conf file.

 And if you didn't format it that way, find out who did.

 That is the question!!! I upgraded and DNS broke!

 I didn't even know there was a /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
 file until this unfortunate experience...


I know this won't make you feel any better.  But the problem you've seen has 
probably always existed

on your system but was "hidden" from view.

Previously the default for FallbackDNS as shown in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf 
was


#FallbackDNS=1.1.1.1 8.8.8.8 1.0.0.1 8.8.4.4 2606:4700:4700:: 
2001:4860:4860::

 2606:4700:4700::1001 2001:4860:4860::884

But many folks complained that they didn't want a Fallback defined pointing 
to Google or

other "services".  So, it was removed and is now

#FallbackDNS=

Meaning none are defined.

So, previously, if your DNS= entry was incorrect you'd be protected by the 
existence of the Fallback being

defined.  Now, they are not.

So, whoever supplied the badly formatted /etc/systemd/resolved.conf file is 
the "real" culprit.


If I recall, you're using a VM supplied by a vendor?  If so, have you 
notified them?




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Fedora-Rawhide-20210218.n.0 compose check report

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images:

Xfce raw-xz armhfp
Minimal raw-xz armhfp

Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
3 of 43 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** 
below

Failed openQA tests: 41/183 (x86_64), 27/124 (aarch64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20210217.n.0):

ID: 781344  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_master
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781344
ID: 781345  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_replica
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781345
ID: 781353  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_remote_logging_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781353
ID: 781356  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_updates
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781356
ID: 781358  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_remote_logging_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781358
ID: 781359  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781359
ID: 781367  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781367
ID: 781371  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781371
ID: 781375  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_login
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781375
ID: 781378  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781378
ID: 781381  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781381
ID: 781409  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781409
ID: 781427  Test: aarch64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781427
ID: 781432  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_server@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781432
ID: 781434  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
install_repository_hd_variation@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781434
ID: 781440  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_freeipa_replication_master@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781440
ID: 781442  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781442
ID: 781450  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_freeipa_replication_replica@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781450
ID: 781465  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781465
ID: 781466  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_freeipa_replication_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781466
ID: 781482  Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz 
desktop_update_graphical@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781482
ID: 781488  Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz desktop_printing@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781488
ID: 781542  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781542
ID: 781553  Test: x86_64 universal support_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781553
ID: 781554  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781554
ID: 781572  Test: x86_64 universal install_iscsi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781572
ID: 781596  Test: aarch64 universal install_anaconda_text@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781596

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20210217.n.0):

ID: 781316  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso mediakit_repoclosure
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781316
ID: 781323  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781323
ID: 781325  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_role_deploy_domain_controller **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781325
ID: 781332  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781332
ID: 781346  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781346
ID: 781386  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781386
ID: 781391  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781391
ID: 781395  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_browser **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781395
ID: 781398  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781398
ID: 781399  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781399
ID: 781429  Test: aarch64 

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20210218.n.0 changes

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20210217.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20210218.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images:  0
Added packages:  20
Dropped packages:2
Upgraded packages:   109
Downgraded packages: 3

Size of added packages:  35.10 MiB
Size of dropped packages:7.73 MiB
Size of upgraded packages:   4.65 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 8.55 MiB

Size change of upgraded packages:   -455.75 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: -5.00 KiB

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: KDE_Appliance raw-xz armhfp
Path: Spins/armhfp/images/Fedora-KDE-armhfp-Rawhide-20210218.n.0-sda.raw.xz

= DROPPED IMAGES =

= ADDED PACKAGES =
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Summary: C++ API for the cairo graphics library
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Size:1.27 MiB

Package: efitools-1.9.2-3.fc35
Summary: Tools to manipulate EFI secure boot keys and signatures
RPMs:efitools
Size:479.81 KiB

Package: jo-1.4-1.fc35
Summary: Small utility to create JSON objects
RPMs:jo
Size:169.46 KiB

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Summary: User Manager for KDE
RPMs:kuser
Size:1.22 MiB

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Summary: Compatibility library to use Stdlib.Bigarray when possible
RPMs:ocaml-bigarray-compat ocaml-bigarray-compat-devel
Size:252.58 KiB

Package: ocaml-ctypes-0.18.0-1.fc35
Summary: Combinators for binding to C libraries without writing any C
RPMs:ocaml-ctypes ocaml-ctypes-devel ocaml-ctypes-doc
Size:8.07 MiB

Package: ocaml-integers-0.4.0-1.fc35
Summary: Various signed and unsigned integer types for OCaml
RPMs:ocaml-integers ocaml-integers-devel ocaml-integers-doc
Size:1.69 MiB

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RPMs:ocaml-luv ocaml-luv-devel ocaml-luv-doc
Size:20.13 MiB

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Summary: PowerPC FSI Debugger
RPMs:pdbg pdbg-devel pdbg-libs
Size:161.90 KiB

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Summary: A python library to control interactive applications
RPMs:python3-aexpect
Size:51.37 KiB

Package: python-avocado-82.0-1.module_f35+11432+cbc1455d
Summary: Framework with tools and libraries for Automated Testing
RPMs:python-avocado-bash python-avocado-common python-avocado-examples 
python3-avocado python3-avocado-plugins-glib python3-avocado-plugins-golang 
python3-avocado-plugins-loader-yaml python3-avocado-plugins-output-html 
python3-avocado-plugins-result-upload python3-avocado-plugins-resultsdb 
python3-avocado-plugins-varianter-cit python3-avocado-plugins-varianter-pict 
python3-avocado-plugins-varianter-yaml-to-mux
Size:890.92 KiB

Package: python-batalgorithm-0.3.1-1.fc35
Summary: Bat Algorithm for optimization
RPMs:python3-batalgorithm
Size:13.19 KiB

Package: python-maya-0.6.1-1.fc35
Summary: Datetimes for Humans
RPMs:python3-maya
Size:29.55 KiB

Package: python-requests-credssp-1.0.0-10.fc35
Summary: This package allows for HTTPS CredSSP authentication using the 
requests library.
RPMs:python3-requests-credssp
Size:38.85 KiB

Package: python-tkrzw-0.1.4-2.fc35
Summary: TKRZW Python bindings
RPMs:python-tkrzw-doc python3-tkrzw
Size:435.57 KiB

Package: rust-codespan-reporting-0.9.5-2.fc35
Summary: Beautiful diagnostic reporting for text-based programming languages
RPMs:rust-codespan-reporting+default-devel 
rust-codespan-reporting+serde-devel rust-codespan-reporting+serialization-devel 
rust-codespan-reporting-devel
Size:77.75 KiB

Package: rust-cxxbridge-flags-0.5.10-1.fc35
Summary: Compiler configuration of the `cxx` crate (implementation detail)
RPMs:rust-cxxbridge-flags+c++14-devel rust-cxxbridge-flags+c++17-devel 
rust-cxxbridge-flags+c++20-devel rust-cxxbridge-flags+default-devel 
rust-cxxbridge-flags-devel
Size:37.79 KiB

Package: rust-cxxbridge-macro-0.5.10-2.fc35
Summary: Implementation detail of the `cxx` crate
RPMs:rust-cxxbridge-macro+default-devel rust-cxxbridge-macro-devel
Size:49.83 KiB

Package: rust-link-cplusplus-1.0.5-2.fc35
Summary: Link libstdc++ or libc++ automatically or manually
RPMs:rust-link-cplusplus+default-devel rust-link-cplusplus+libc++-devel 
rust-link-cplusplus+libcxx-devel rust-link-cplusplus+libstdc++-devel 
rust-link-cplusplus+libstdcxx-devel rust-link-cplusplus+nothing-devel 
rust-link-cplusplus-devel
Size:60.08 KiB

Package: rust-proc-quote-0.3.2-4.fc35
Summary: Procedural macro implementation of quote!
RPMs:rust-proc-quote+default-devel rust-proc-quote-devel
Size:34.37 KiB


= DROPPED PACKAGES =
Package: gnome-getting-started-docs-3.38.0-2.fc34
Summary: Help a new user get started in GNOME
RPMs:gnome-getting-started-docs gnome-getting-started-docs-cs 
gnome-getting-started-docs-de gnome-getting-started-docs-es 
gnome-getting-started-docs-fr gnome-getting-started-docs-gl 
gnome-getting-started-docs-hu gnome-getting-started-docs

Fedora-Cloud-32-20210218.0 compose check report

2021-02-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20210217.0):

ID: 781299  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781299
ID: 781311  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/781311

Passed openQA tests: 6/7 (x86_64), 6/7 (aarch64)
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[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2021-02-18 - 95% PASS

2021-02-18 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2021/02/18/report-389-ds-base-2.0.3-20210218gita355b30b2.fc33.x86_64.html
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Re: restic update and src.fedoraproject.org and Self Introduction

2021-02-18 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:19:26PM -0500, Kevin Anderson wrote:
> Thank you! I'm unsure of what I was doing wrong initially but I
> appreciate your help in resolving it!

As James pointed out you'll need to use fedpkg if you're not a packager.
The workflow is documented at:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/ci/pull-requests/#_you_are_not_a_packager


Pierre


> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 9:17 PM James Cassell
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, at 8:06 PM, Kevin Anderson wrote:
> > [...]
> > > The issue is that when I attempt to push over HTTPS I get an
> > > authentication failure. I have tried with an API key as well as with
> > > my FAS password using my FAS username (kanderson) for both. Is it
> > > expected that I can't push, even to a fork, if I am not a part of a
> > > packagers group?
> >
> > re-clone the repo using `fedpkg clone --anonymous`, then `git remote add 
> > fork `, then you can follow the prompts when you attempt to 
> > push to your fork. (it'll get you to open a browser and sign-in there)
> >
> > V/r,
> > James Cassell
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