Re: Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-04 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
@ Samuel Rakitničan

Please re-send your massages and send later massages to below thread, thanks:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RM6SFL22AYOLZEFIO7IYHZPF72NFTWMS/
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Re: Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-04 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
Please send massages to below thread, thanks:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RM6SFL22AYOLZEFIO7IYHZPF72NFTWMS/
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Re: Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-03 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I forgot to say, it was between the hours 15-16 of 2 march (in local time) that 
I sent two e-mails to mentioned threads, but nor my e-mails and others e-mails 
was visible until 3 march 13:30-14:00. so it is actually 22-23 hours delay.
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Re: Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-03 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
On Sat, 2018-03-03 at 18:30 +0100, Timotheus Pokorra wrote:
> Hello Farhad,
> 
> > https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/threads.html#241887
> > 
> > Please do something for this problem, it is really bad situation
> > you
> > are waiting for e-mails and check the web page several times but
> > you
> > don't see anything! |:
> > 
> 
> I don't think that spinics.net is the official archiver of the
> Fedora 
> mailing lists.
> 
> As far as I know, the official mailing list archive for the users
> list 
> is located here:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproje
> ct.org/2018/3/
> 
> and it seems to be uptodate as far as I can see...
> 

Hello

Here is a big mis-understanding!!, I know that official archiver is 
"https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/; not "spinics.net" my mean was 
exactly "https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/; which uses HyperKitty and I 
used it to open some threads, I know that HyperKitty has some advantages over 
traditional archive software, but it seems there are some problems here, I also 
mentioned in the original massage that:

"I doubt to this situation and *searched internet* with *mentioned
titles* and *found mentioned links* "

I provided links from "spinics.net" just as reference comparison to 
"https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/;

I am sure the problem was not from my web browser (Firefox ESR 52) because I 
opened archives even with "Private Mode" which does not store and use cache.
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Re: Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-03 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I forgot to say, it was between the hours 15-16 of yesterday (in local
time) that I sent two e-mails to mentioned threads, but nor my e-mail
and others e-mails was visible until today 13:30-14:00. so it is
actually 22-23 hours delay.
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Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-03 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I forgot to say, it was between the hours 15-16 of yesterday (in local
time) that I sent two e-mails to mentioned threads, but nor my e-mail
and others e-mails was visible until today 13:30-14:00. so it is
actually 22-23 hours delay.
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Official archiver of Fedora mailing lists shows e-mails with one day delay!

2018-03-03 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
At few days ago I did open two threads:

1: "Fedora 26 & 27 are unable to boot with normal graphic mode on this
PC with AMD/ATI RS740 [Radeon 2100] GPU" in "Users"

https://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-users/threads.html#481765

2. "Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?" in
"devel"

https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/threads.html#241887

I did set "Delivery status" to disabled via web page and used official
archiver for viewing emails, but until noon today, it doesn't show new
e-mails, I doubt to this situation and searched internet with mentioned
titles and found mentioned links, so I noticed official archiver of
Fedora is not reliable!

Please do something for this problem, it is really bad situation you
are waiting for e-mails and check the web page several times but you
don't see anything! |:

It currently shows all new e-mails but not two hours ago.
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Re: Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?

2018-03-02 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 14:46 +, chicago wrote:
> Good question. What is in this 20+58MB? Is it all text? Does most of
> it it change infrequently?/Maybe we can diff it?

I don't know, I just ran "dnf upgrade" and it took metadata in
mentioned size, Fedora developers should answer to these questions.
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Re: Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?

2018-03-02 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 14:46 +, chicago wrote:
> Good question. What is in this 20+58MB? Is it all text? Does most of
> it it change infrequently?/Maybe we can diff it?

I don't know, I just ran "dnf upgrade" and it took metadata in
mentioned size, Fedora developers should answer to these questions.
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Why size of repositories metadata is too high in Fedora?

2018-03-01 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
Hello, in Debian (9, stable), size of all the official repositories metadata is 
maximum 10MB,
 while in Fedora, today I ran "dnf update" for first time after installing 
Fedora 27 (Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-27-1.6) and it took 20+58MB for two 
official repositories!

It is really too high, why there is such difference? why don't optimize it and 
fix this problem?
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Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-18 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I believe that everyone comes from MS Windows to Linux will need to YAST, 
currently it provides many modules that makes system management very easy:

* service management, what services are running, what are stopped, and user can 
change their status.
* systemd control
* hardware configuration and provide technical info about them
* many more modules for doing essential works

until Fedora does not provide YAST, it can not claim that is a good alternative 
for desktop users of MS Windows.
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Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
> 
> You seem to have missed this in Adam's email

No, I don't missed anything.
 
> i) just getting things right so we don't need a giant pile of
> configuration tools
> ii) tools written at more appropriate layers, mainly desktop
> environments

"so we don't need" What is his mean about "WE" ?!

* professional and long time system administrators?
* Fedora developers?
* amateur users? special users who come from windows?
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Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
> On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
> Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach.
> 
> It's not really a question of resources, but of not thinking this is
> the correct approach.

What is the correct approach?! Wasting lots of time on:
* reading bad-structured and complex man pages?
* search the internet through search engines and open tens of web pages and 
reading a bunch of out-dated and non-functional information?
* struggle with too many different tools that most of them are unknown for 
users due to lack of a central management tool like IBM AIX System Management 
Interface Tool  (SMIT)?
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YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-12 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
Hello, SUSE distributions have a system control panel that can configure many 
aspects of the system. It is the best feature I saw in SUSE, it is very 
interesting, useful and beneficial for all users.

* Why Fedora does not have such tool?

* How much money is need to develop such tool from scratch or port it from SUSE 
to Fedora/RHEL?

If Fedora provides such tool, it can attract many users from Ubuntu, Debian and 
others to Fedora.
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Re: Why Delta RPM is not available for firefox and there is no firefox-esr in the Fedora repository?

2017-04-07 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
Your description was complete and convincing. That link you did provide is only 
12.0MB !! it is really acceptable. Thank you

Fedora, Red Hat and RPM are really great!
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Re: Why Delta RPM is not available for firefox and there is no firefox-esr in the Fedora repository?

2017-04-07 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I had firefox-52.0-6.fc25 and there was no Delta RPM for firefox-52.0.2-2.fc25

Does Delta RPM is available only for the last installed version of software?
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Re: Why Delta RPM is not available for firefox and there is no firefox-esr in the Fedora repository?

2017-04-07 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I had firefox-52.0-6.fc25 and there was no Delta RPM for firefox-52.0.2-2.fc25

Does Delta RPM is available only for the installed recent version?
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