Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-17 Thread Matthias Runge
On 16/10/14 15:32, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

 There are no Django applications that are part of the install sets of
 any of the Products or Spins so far as I am aware, so the risk to the
 Project deliverable dates would be minimal. I'd suggest bringing it to
 FESCo for a more complete risk-analysis, but I'd argue that we'd be
 better off shipping python-django as 1.7 and also the python-django16
 package in Fedora 21.

I opened a ticket:

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1357

Matthias
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Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Runge
Hello,

in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks
ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for
opinions, if an upgrade to Django-1.7 would be still acceptable.

I have a copr available containing Django-1.7 [1]

Thoughts?

Matthias

[1] https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/mrunge/django-1.7/
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Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Matthias Runge  wrote:

 Hello,

 in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks
 ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for
 opinions, if an upgrade to Django-1.7 would be still acceptable.

 I have a copr available containing Django-1.7 [1]

 Thoughts?


Does it bring any substantial benefits?  Does it break existing apps?

Rahul
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Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Runge
On 16/10/14 14:25, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Matthias Runge wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks
 ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for
 opinions, if an upgrade to Django-1.7 would be still acceptable.
 
 I have a copr available containing Django-1.7 [1]
 
 Thoughts?
 
 
 Does it bring any substantial benefits?  Does it break existing apps?
 
Two things to be considered:

- Django-1.6 will get out of maintenance when F21 is still released
(probably in March 2015)

- when running an app, the following lines in your wsgi file need to be
placed or replaced:

from django.core.wsgi import get_wsgi_application
application = get_wsgi_application()

instead of whatever was there earlier to define the application.


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Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher



On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 14:46 +0200, Matthias Runge wrote:
 On 16/10/14 14:25, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  Hi
  
  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Matthias Runge wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  in Fedora 21, we have Django-1.6. Django-1.7 was released a few weeks
  ago. As we're in feature freeze, but still pre-beta. I'd like to ask for
  opinions, if an upgrade to Django-1.7 would be still acceptable.
  
  I have a copr available containing Django-1.7 [1]
  
  Thoughts?
  
  
  Does it bring any substantial benefits?  Does it break existing apps?
  
 Two things to be considered:
 
 - Django-1.6 will get out of maintenance when F21 is still released
 (probably in March 2015)
 
 - when running an app, the following lines in your wsgi file need to be
 placed or replaced:
 
 from django.core.wsgi import get_wsgi_application
 application = get_wsgi_application()
 
 instead of whatever was there earlier to define the application.
 
 
 Matthias


There are no Django applications that are part of the install sets of
any of the Products or Spins so far as I am aware, so the risk to the
Project deliverable dates would be minimal. I'd suggest bringing it to
FESCo for a more complete risk-analysis, but I'd argue that we'd be
better off shipping python-django as 1.7 and also the python-django16
package in Fedora 21.


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Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Ryan S. Brown
On 10/16/2014 09:32 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
 snip
 
 There are no Django applications that are part of the install sets of
 any of the Products or Spins so far as I am aware, so the risk to the
 Project deliverable dates would be minimal. I'd suggest bringing it to
 FESCo for a more complete risk-analysis, but I'd argue that we'd be
 better off shipping python-django as 1.7 and also the python-django16
 package in Fedora 21.
 

+1

Shipping F21 with Django 1.6 as the default will *definitely* have us
kicking ourselves in 6 months. And shipping 1.7 by default will make
lots of Django users/devs happy.

Definitely bring it up to FESCo, but it's probably riskier to be
shipping something that will become unsupported within the release
lifetime than to upgrade to the newer version.
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RE: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread John Florian
 -Original Message-
 From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:devel-
 boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Ryan S. Brown
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 09:59
 To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21
 
 On 10/16/2014 09:32 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
  snip
 
  There are no Django applications that are part of the install sets of
  any of the Products or Spins so far as I am aware, so the risk to the
  Project deliverable dates would be minimal. I'd suggest bringing it to
  FESCo for a more complete risk-analysis, but I'd argue that we'd be
  better off shipping python-django as 1.7 and also the python-django16
  package in Fedora 21.
 
 
 +1
 
 Shipping F21 with Django 1.6 as the default will *definitely* have us kicking
 ourselves in 6 months. And shipping 1.7 by default will make lots of Django
 users/devs happy.
 
 Definitely bring it up to FESCo, but it's probably riskier to be shipping
 something that will become unsupported within the release lifetime than to
 upgrade to the newer version.


+1  -r

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Re: Django-1.7 for Fedora 21

2014-10-16 Thread Tomas Tomecek
Latest  greatest, please.

Especially since django 1.7 brought south (migrations) to core.

Also, in a couple of months, I believe that a lot of folks would love to use 
1.7, so let's make their life easier (by NOT doing 'pip install').

Tomas
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