Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings. I'm happy to announce the general availability of our status.fedoraproject.org site. This site provides an easy way for Fedora contributors and users to check on the status of services provided by Fedora Infrastructure. The site auto reloads every minute, and also provides a rss feed at http://status.fedoraproject.org/changes.rss of any changes. If you run into a problem or issue that is not reflected at status.fedoraproject.org, please do report it to us in #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net or via ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/newticket We update the site status information manually so we need to be aware of the issue in order to keep the site accurate. As with everything in Fedora Infrastructure, this application is open source. Source is available from: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-status.git and is released under a GPLv2+ license. This application is hosted at https://openshift.redhat.com to avoid any issues with outages in our infrastructure affecting status reporting. Looks really cool, congrats to all that made it happen! Will there be banners for when maintenance is going to happen/in progress so that if there's an issue and we go there it will let us know if it's an unplanned outage or whether it's part of planned maintenance? Also it would be great if we could have a second section at the bottom for secondary arch koji too :) Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:45:49 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks really cool, congrats to all that made it happen! Will there be banners for when maintenance is going to happen/in progress so that if there's an issue and we go there it will let us know if it's an unplanned outage or whether it's part of planned maintenance? Yep. Planned outages are different appearing than a unplanned outage. ;) Also it would be great if we could have a second section at the bottom for secondary arch koji too :) We could look at setting secondary folks up with a similar instance? The code is all available in the git repo, you just need to setup a openshift instance to run it and and point dns to it. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:45:49 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks really cool, congrats to all that made it happen! Will there be banners for when maintenance is going to happen/in progress so that if there's an issue and we go there it will let us know if it's an unplanned outage or whether it's part of planned maintenance? Yep. Planned outages are different appearing than a unplanned outage. ;) Also it would be great if we could have a second section at the bottom for secondary arch koji too :) We could look at setting secondary folks up with a similar instance? The code is all available in the git repo, you just need to setup a openshift instance to run it and and point dns to it. I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla to this? -J kevin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/ in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:43:03 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:45:49 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks really cool, congrats to all that made it happen! Will there be banners for when maintenance is going to happen/in progress so that if there's an issue and we go there it will let us know if it's an unplanned outage or whether it's part of planned maintenance? Yep. Planned outages are different appearing than a unplanned outage. ;) Also it would be great if we could have a second section at the bottom for secondary arch koji too :) We could look at setting secondary folks up with a similar instance? The code is all available in the git repo, you just need to setup a openshift instance to run it and and point dns to it. I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla to this? It was suggested, but we don't actually run bugzilla.redhat.com or have anything to do with it. So it would be a bit difficult to try and report status on it when all we could see is 'it's down' or 'it seems to be up now' kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:43:03 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:45:49 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks really cool, congrats to all that made it happen! Will there be banners for when maintenance is going to happen/in progress so that if there's an issue and we go there it will let us know if it's an unplanned outage or whether it's part of planned maintenance? Yep. Planned outages are different appearing than a unplanned outage. ;) Also it would be great if we could have a second section at the bottom for secondary arch koji too :) We could look at setting secondary folks up with a similar instance? The code is all available in the git repo, you just need to setup a openshift instance to run it and and point dns to it. I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla to this? It was suggested, but we don't actually run bugzilla.redhat.com or have anything to do with it. So it would be a bit difficult to try and report status on it when all we could see is 'it's down' or 'it seems to be up now' That by itself would be enough for me. And for anyone who sees some failure and has no idea what's going on. Even with a not saying maintained by RH, not Fedora Inf, or somesuch. -J kevin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/ in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:26 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla to this? It was suggested, but we don't actually run bugzilla.redhat.com or have anything to do with it. So it would be a bit difficult to try and report status on it when all we could see is 'it's down' or 'it seems to be up now' That by itself would be enough for me. And for anyone who sees some failure and has no idea what's going on. Even with a not saying maintained by RH, not Fedora Inf, or somesuch. I'd really like to avoid that, because it would lead to: when is it going to be up? - no idea. It works for me, but not for otheruser, is there a network problem? - no idea. You are saying it's down, but it's up for me (mark it up, site goes down again because of some ongoing problem) Now it's down, please mark it down again - If we managed it, we would know the ongoing issue and could update when it was approprate/fully back up. And cases where we mark it down, when it's not, or only for some users, etc. It also opens the door for Oh, can you monitor my fedora related site and report on it there? which I REALLY don't want to do. The updates are a manual process, so it's already another step someone in Infrastructure has to do when there is an outage. Lets keep it to sites that Fedora Infrastructure directly manages. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote on 08/31/2012 12:46:31: From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: 08/31/2012 12:47 Subject: Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:26 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla to this? It was suggested, but we don't actually run bugzilla.redhat.com or have anything to do with it. So it would be a bit difficult to try and report status on it when all we could see is 'it's down' or 'it seems to be up now' That by itself would be enough for me. And for anyone who sees some failure and has no idea what's going on. Even with a not saying maintained by RH, not Fedora Inf, or somesuch. I'd really like to avoid that, because it would lead to: when is it going to be up? - no idea. It works for me, but not for otheruser, is there a network problem? - no idea. You are saying it's down, but it's up for me (mark it up, site goes down again because of some ongoing problem) Now it's down, please mark it down again - If we managed it, we would know the ongoing issue and could update when it was approprate/fully back up. And cases where we mark it down, when it's not, or only for some users, etc. It also opens the door for Oh, can you monitor my fedora related site and report on it there? which I REALLY don't want to do. The updates are a manual process, so it's already another step someone in Infrastructure has to do when there is an outage. Lets keep it to sites that Fedora Infrastructure directly manages. kevin [attachment signature.asc deleted by John Florian/EngMOp/MAS/DCC] -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel That makes lots of sense, but I suspect you'll get just as many why isn't bugzilla shown here? questions ... unless maybe the page had some hint that it only monitors sites directly managed by the Fedora Project, which is why sites like bugzilla, etc., etc. are not shown here. -- John Florian-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote on 08/31/2012 12:46:31: From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: 08/31/2012 12:47 Subject: Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:26 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla to this? It was suggested, but we don't actually run bugzilla.redhat.com or have anything to do with it. So it would be a bit difficult to try and report status on it when all we could see is 'it's down' or 'it seems to be up now' That by itself would be enough for me. And for anyone who sees some failure and has no idea what's going on. Even with a not saying maintained by RH, not Fedora Inf, or somesuch. I'd really like to avoid that, because it would lead to: when is it going to be up? - no idea. It works for me, but not for otheruser, is there a network problem? - no idea. You are saying it's down, but it's up for me (mark it up, site goes down again because of some ongoing problem) Now it's down, please mark it down again - If we managed it, we would know the ongoing issue and could update when it was approprate/fully back up. And cases where we mark it down, when it's not, or only for some users, etc. It also opens the door for Oh, can you monitor my fedora related site and report on it there? which I REALLY don't want to do. The updates are a manual process, so it's already another step someone in Infrastructure has to do when there is an outage. Lets keep it to sites that Fedora Infrastructure directly manages. kevin [attachment signature.asc deleted by John Florian/EngMOp/MAS/DCC] -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel That makes lots of sense, but I suspect you'll get just as many why isn't bugzilla shown here? questions ... unless maybe the page had some hint that it only monitors sites directly managed by the Fedora Project, which is why sites like bugzilla, etc., etc. are not shown here. I see your point, but I'm swayed by Kevin's logic. -J -- John Florian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/ in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:51:22 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: That makes lots of sense, but I suspect you'll get just as many why isn't bugzilla shown here? questions ... unless maybe the page had some hint that it only monitors sites directly managed by the Fedora Project, which is why sites like bugzilla, etc., etc. are not shown here. We could add something to that effect perhaps. Another issue is that we don't monitor bugzilla at all. With our other services if something goes down, we are paged and the first thing the person handling the outage can do is set the status. With no monitoring we would depend on someone telling us when things are down and someone who can update status being around to act on it. This would lead to it's status being out of sync a great deal more than services we monitor and manage. ;) I see your point, but I'm swayed by Kevin's logic. :) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:51:22 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: That makes lots of sense, but I suspect you'll get just as many why isn't bugzilla shown here? questions ... unless maybe the page had some hint that it only monitors sites directly managed by the Fedora Project, which is why sites like bugzilla, etc., etc. are not shown here. We could add something to that effect perhaps. +1 Another issue is that we don't monitor bugzilla at all. With our other services if something goes down, we are paged and the first thing the person handling the outage can do is set the status. With no monitoring we would depend on someone telling us when things are down and someone who can update status being around to act on it. This would lead to it's status being out of sync a great deal more than services we monitor and manage. ;) I see your point, but I'm swayed by Kevin's logic. :) Don't get a big head, now. . .;) -J kevin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/ in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote on 08/31/2012 13:56:34: From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: 08/31/2012 13:56 Subject: Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:51:22 -0500 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: That makes lots of sense, but I suspect you'll get just as many why isn't bugzilla shown here? questions ... unless maybe the page had some hint that it only monitors sites directly managed by the Fedora Project, which is why sites like bugzilla, etc., etc. are not shown here. We could add something to that effect perhaps. Another issue is that we don't monitor bugzilla at all. With our other services if something goes down, we are paged and the first thing the person handling the outage can do is set the status. With no monitoring we would depend on someone telling us when things are down and someone who can update status being around to act on it. This would lead to it's status being out of sync a great deal more than services we monitor and manage. ;) I'm not suggesting you monitor it at all, merely to have this page state that you don't. -- John Florian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
Kevin Fenzi wrote: We could add something to that effect perhaps. We will not and cannot monitor the following Fedora-related services: -Red Hat Bugzilla -RPMFusion -Fedora blogs -Fedora news sites -Your Grandma's Fedora laptop -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
Kevin Fenzi wrote: We could add something to that effect perhaps. We will not and cannot monitor the following Fedora-related services: -Red Hat Bugzilla -RPMFusion -Fedora blogs -Fedora news sites -Your Grandma's Fedora laptop Exactly! Great examples BTW and I really like the order they're presented in, starting with those everyone is likely to ask about first down to those that some will wonder about. -- John Florian-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:00:27 -0400 john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: We could add something to that effect perhaps. We will not and cannot monitor the following Fedora-related services: -Red Hat Bugzilla -RPMFusion -Fedora blogs -Fedora news sites -Your Grandma's Fedora laptop Exactly! Great examples BTW and I really like the order they're presented in, starting with those everyone is likely to ask about first down to those that some will wonder about. I'd prefer to avoid a list... how about: This site provides status only for services managed directly by Fedora Infrastructure kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com I'd prefer to avoid a list... how about: This site provides status only for services managed directly by Fedora Infrastructure That's short and simple and drives the point home clear enough, I think. -- John Florian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On 2012-08-31 12:32, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com I'd prefer to avoid a list... how about: This site provides status only for services managed directly by Fedora Infrastructure That's short and simple and drives the point home clear enough, I think. I preferred the list. The thing is, you can't assume everyone knows what is and isn't managed by Infrastructure. This would just change the question from 'why isn't Bugzilla listed?' to 'why isn't Bugzilla listed? isn't it maintained by infrastructure?' -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:13:04 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On 2012-08-31 12:32, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com I'd prefer to avoid a list... how about: This site provides status only for services managed directly by Fedora Infrastructure That's short and simple and drives the point home clear enough, I think. I preferred the list. The thing is, you can't assume everyone knows what is and isn't managed by Infrastructure. This would just change the question from 'why isn't Bugzilla listed?' to 'why isn't Bugzilla listed? isn't it maintained by infrastructure?' Then someone will ask about fedoraforum. Then someone will ask about fedora.ru Then someone will ask about the google+ fedora page... Then someone will ask about their Fedora mirrors... etc. The list could grow as long as the internet. ;) How about: This site is for the status of Fedora Infrastructure services. If you don't see a service here, it's not something we manage or provide status on. Contact that service for status information. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
Greetings. I'm happy to announce the general availability of our status.fedoraproject.org site. This site provides an easy way for Fedora contributors and users to check on the status of services provided by Fedora Infrastructure. The site auto reloads every minute, and also provides a rss feed at http://status.fedoraproject.org/changes.rss of any changes. If you run into a problem or issue that is not reflected at status.fedoraproject.org, please do report it to us in #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net or via ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/newticket We update the site status information manually so we need to be aware of the issue in order to keep the site accurate. As with everything in Fedora Infrastructure, this application is open source. Source is available from: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-status.git and is released under a GPLv2+ license. This application is hosted at https://openshift.redhat.com to avoid any issues with outages in our infrastructure affecting status reporting. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
Great, but the link under Fedora Packages App should be either undefined or https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/, not the current 404-pointing value of UNKNOWN. BTW, http://www.smolts.org/ returns 503 currently, but I do not know if this is somehow related with Everything seems to be working textual status (probably working is about the real service, not the front-page which fails at the moment) Kind Regards, Alek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:19:15 +0300 Alek Paunov a...@declera.com wrote: Great, but the link under Fedora Packages App should be either undefined or https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/, not the current 404-pointing value of UNKNOWN. Fixed. Thanks. BTW, http://www.smolts.org/ returns 503 currently, but I do not know if this is somehow related with Everything seems to be working textual status (probably working is about the real service, not the front-page which fails at the moment) Sadly, the web frontend does that when the backend is generating stats. We really need to set a sunset date and retire smolt. I was hoping the new census project would be up and running before then, but we can't keep smolt really limping along forever. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
On Aug 30, 2012 7:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: We really need to set a sunset date and retire smolt. I was hoping the new census project would be up and running before then, but we can't keep smolt really limping along forever. Tomorrow. Ok that might be unreasonable. Make it Monday. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
Greetings. I'm happy to announce the general availability of our status.fedoraproject.org site. This site provides an easy way for Fedora contributors and users to check on the status of services provided by Fedora Infrastructure. The site auto reloads every minute, and also provides a rss feed at http://status.fedoraproject.org/changes.rss of any changes. If you run into a problem or issue that is not reflected at status.fedoraproject.org, please do report it to us in #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net or via ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/newticket We update the site status information manually so we need to be aware of the issue in order to keep the site accurate. As with everything in Fedora Infrastructure, this application is open source. Source is available from: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-status.git and is released under a GPLv2+ license. This application is hosted at https://openshift.redhat.com to avoid any issues with outages in our infrastructure affecting status reporting. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce
