Re: New version of Copr

[John Harris]

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:33:58 PM MST Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 06. 09. 19 v 3:29 John Harris napsal(a):
> 
> > Well, that could be much better handled with a simple "Contact owner"
> > button  that sends the owner an email.
> 
> 
> We have this for ages. See upper right corner of:
>   https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/mock/mock/
> And no, it does not work. People do not fill it. People barely use it. The
> communication is not archived/visible and therefore miss the network
> effect.

Most likely, that will continue to be the case. The communication thing there 
will go unused, and you'll still be asked to act instead of the owners.

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Re: New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 06. 09. 19 v 3:29 John Harris napsal(a):
> Well, that could be much better handled with a simple "Contact owner" button 
> that sends the owner an email.

We have this for ages. See upper right corner of:
  https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/mock/mock/
And no, it does not work. People do not fill it. People barely use it. The 
communication is not archived/visible and
therefore miss the network effect.

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Re: New version of Copr

[John Harris]

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 10:16:16 AM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 9/5/19 9:55 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 09:17:49AM -0700, John Harris wrote:
> >> Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does
> >> it
> >> rely on Discourse for that feature?
> > 
> > I think it's pretty clearly a useful feature, although I won't speak to
> > any
> > inefficiency. And I'm glad to see that it _does_ use Discourse -- better
> > to
> > tie into something made for discussion than to home-brew a new thing.
> 
> I wonder... perhaps it could make a thread per user/group instead of per
> project? That would reduce the traffic a lot, and I would expect that
> would capture the need for discussion with the owner?
> 
> kevin

Well, that could be much better handled with a simple "Contact owner" button 
that sends the owner an email.

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Re: New version of Copr

[Kevin Kofler]

John Harris wrote:
> Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does it
> rely on Discourse for that feature?

What is particularly annoying is that it is all in JavaScript. Basic website 
functionality should work without JavaScript.

(But there are already other offenders in Fedora, e.g., Bodhi since 2.0.0 
has not allowed filing updates without JavaScript anymore.)

Kevin Kofler
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Re: New version of Copr

[Pavel Raiskup]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 2:28:08 PM CEST Dominik Turecek wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Today, we have released a new version of Copr.
> Main highlights from the release was the addition
> of discussion panels in Copr projects and speed
> optimization of front page.
> 
> For more information, see:
>  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-4aca9d983d

Also, few days back we enabled F31 in Copr, I forgot to cc fedora-devel when I
was announcing that:

https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/copr-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org/thread/NHFUW4OEOKT2CWBUY34ZY4BMD4OQIL5T/

Pavel


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Re: New version of Copr

[Gerald B. Cox]

If I understand the discussion here:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/can-the-copr-category-be-removed-from-the-latest-list/2420

Alot of the traffic can be dealt with using the "do not list this category
in latest" function - and there will be an RFE for the "new" category.  The
one
thing that I believe can and should be fixed by discourse as a bug would be
the fact that the COPR items are appearing in the RSS feeds, i.e.
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/latest.rss and most likely
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/new.rss


It just needs to be reported to discourse so it can be addressed.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On 9/5/19 9:55 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 09:17:49AM -0700, John Harris wrote:
> >> Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does
> it
> >> rely on Discourse for that feature?
> >
> > I think it's pretty clearly a useful feature, although I won't speak to
> any
> > inefficiency. And I'm glad to see that it _does_ use Discourse -- better
> to
> > tie into something made for discussion than to home-brew a new thing.
>
> I wonder... perhaps it could make a thread per user/group instead of per
> project? That would reduce the traffic a lot, and I would expect that
> would capture the need for discussion with the owner?
>
> kevin
>
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Re: New version of Copr

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 9/5/19 9:55 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 09:17:49AM -0700, John Harris wrote:
>> Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does it 
>> rely on Discourse for that feature?
> 
> I think it's pretty clearly a useful feature, although I won't speak to any
> inefficiency. And I'm glad to see that it _does_ use Discourse -- better to
> tie into something made for discussion than to home-brew a new thing.

I wonder... perhaps it could make a thread per user/group instead of per
project? That would reduce the traffic a lot, and I would expect that
would capture the need for discussion with the owner?

kevin



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Re: New version of Copr

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 09:17:49AM -0700, John Harris wrote:
> Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does it 
> rely on Discourse for that feature?

I think it's pretty clearly a useful feature, although I won't speak to any
inefficiency. And I'm glad to see that it _does_ use Discourse -- better to
tie into something made for discussion than to home-brew a new thing.

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Re: New version of Copr

[John Harris]

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:56:13 AM MST Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Between them, between the maintainer as they very
> often contact us to do something with the content of the projects or file
> bug reports against Copr to do something with a failing application built
> in Copr. And we are closing it because we are not the packagers.

I'm sorry, but I don't see what providing, essentially, a "comments" box will 
do about this. Most of that communication, I'm sure we'd all prefer to keep 
private..

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Re: New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 04. 09. 19 v 18:17 John Harris napsal(a):
> Has the new version been tested without "discussion"s? If not, I would 
> imagine 
> it'd be much faster with that feature disabled.

Yes. It has been tested with and without discussions. Discussion are not on 
front pages and does not affect loading time
of front page.
They are presented on project detail page and use async javascript and 
discussion is being loaded after the page itself
has been shown. I.e., it does not have affect the speed.


> Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does it 
> rely on Discourse for that feature?

Because Discourse is the best. I considered Disqus, but it is not open source 
(which we want to support), we considered
to code something directly in Copr, but we decided to not reinvent wheel and 
spend our time delivering something unique,
which have bigger benefits. We considered maintaining our own instance, but 
again that would consume some engineer who
can do something more useful.
Yet, we want to allow users to share their feedback about projects. Between 
them, between the maintainer as they very
often contact us to do something with the content of the projects or file bug 
reports against Copr to do something with
a failing application built in Copr. And we are closing it because we are not 
the packagers.
As Red Hat is already paying for Fedora Discourse instance, we decided to 
utilize this as there will be no additional
cost and Copr is in fact already part of Fedora ecosystem.

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Re: New version of Copr

[John Harris]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:28:08 AM MST Dominik Turecek wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Today, we have released a new version of Copr.
> Main highlights from the release was the addition
> of discussion panels in Copr projects and speed
> optimization of front page.
> 
> For more information, see:
>  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-4aca9d983d
> 
> Dominik

Has the new version been tested without "discussion"s? If not, I would imagine 
it'd be much faster with that feature disabled.

Does the inefficiency of that feature outweigh its usefulness? Why does it 
rely on Discourse for that feature?

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Re: New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 04. 09. 19 v 14:44 Kamil Paral napsal(a):
> 
> The discussion page is a neat idea. For some projects, I see "start 
> discussion" button, but for others, I see just
> "Loading Discussion..." that eventually changes to "Error embedding".

Yes, the loading takes too long when the topic has to be created and the 
Discourse javascript times out.
If you reload the page, it should load correctly since then.

This is a case of old projects. Or projects which should not be shown on front 
page.
All new projects should have created topic on Discussion.f.o in advance within 
60 seconds as it consume our RSS feed.

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Re: New version of Copr

[Kamil Paral]

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:29 PM Dominik Turecek  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Today, we have released a new version of Copr.
> Main highlights from the release was the addition
> of discussion panels in Copr projects and speed
> optimization of front page.
>

The discussion page is a neat idea. For some projects, I see "start
discussion" button, but for others, I see just "Loading Discussion..." that
eventually changes to "Error embedding".
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New version of Copr

[Dominik Turecek]

Hello.

Today, we have released a new version of Copr.
Main highlights from the release was the addition
of discussion panels in Copr projects and speed
optimization of front page.

For more information, see:
 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-4aca9d983d

Dominik
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New version of Copr (includes dist-git)

[Miroslav Suchý]

It is my pleasure to announce that we just upgraded
  https://copr.fedoraproject.org

It includes several major improvements:

* UI converted to PatternFly [1]. Most visible change is that tables
(e.g. list of builds) can be sorted using any column and you can filter
visible rows using any value.

* dist-git support -- We store your SRPM in dist-git now. It is not
accessible directly using fedpkg (it is in plan later). Dist-git is
browsable via cgit [2]. This allows us to offer you upload of SRPM
directly from your workstation. Just navigate to:
  New Build - Upload SRPM
or if you upgrade to python-copr-1.58-1 (submitted to updates just
today) then you can do:
  copr-cli build name/project ./some.src.rpm
While we assume that uploading SRPM will be most popular method, we
preserved option to pass SRPM url.
You can see new state of your build - Importing. It is obviously the
moment when we import your SRPM into dist-git.

* In project properties (Edit tab) you can now add you email if you want
to be contacted by users in case of some problems with your project.

* We improved queue handling of various architectures. This should fix
those long waiting time of PPC64LE builds.

Big kudos go to Valentin G., Adam Š. and Jakub K., who implemented those
features.

[1] https://www.patternfly.org/
[2] http://copr-dist-git.fedorainfracloud.org/cgit/

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Re: New version of Copr (includes dist-git)

[Johnny Robeson]

On Wed, 2015-08-12 at 10:31 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
 It is my pleasure to announce that we just upgraded
   https://copr.fedoraproject.org
 
 It includes several major improvements:
 
 * UI converted to PatternFly [1]. Most visible change is that tables
 (e.g. list of builds) can be sorted using any column and you can 
 filter
 visible rows using any value.
 
 * dist-git support -- We store your SRPM in dist-git now. It is not
 accessible directly using fedpkg (it is in plan later). Dist-git is
 browsable via cgit [2]. This allows us to offer you upload of SRPM
 directly from your workstation. Just navigate to:
   New Build - Upload SRPM
 or if you upgrade to python-copr-1.58-1 (submitted to updates just
 today) then you can do:
   copr-cli build name/project ./some.src.rpm
 While we assume that uploading SRPM will be most popular method, we
 preserved option to pass SRPM url.
 You can see new state of your build - Importing. It is obviously 
 the
 moment when we import your SRPM into dist-git.
 
 * In project properties (Edit tab) you can now add you email if you 
 want
 to be contacted by users in case of some problems with your project.
 
 * We improved queue handling of various architectures. This should 
 fix
 those long waiting time of PPC64LE builds.
 
 Big kudos go to Valentin G., Adam Š. and Jakub K., who implemented 
 those
 features.
 
 [1] https://www.patternfly.org/
 [2] http://copr-dist-git.fedorainfracloud.org/cgit/
 
 Mirek Suchý
 
Thanks to everybody involved in this. I'm especially happy with the
SRPM upload!
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Re: New version of Copr (includes dist-git)

[Josef Stribny]

On 08/12/2015 11:50 AM, Johnny Robeson wrote:

On Wed, 2015-08-12 at 10:31 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:

It is my pleasure to announce that we just upgraded
   https://copr.fedoraproject.org

It includes several major improvements:

* UI converted to PatternFly [1]. Most visible change is that tables
(e.g. list of builds) can be sorted using any column and you can
filter
visible rows using any value.

* dist-git support -- We store your SRPM in dist-git now. It is not
accessible directly using fedpkg (it is in plan later). Dist-git is
browsable via cgit [2]. This allows us to offer you upload of SRPM
directly from your workstation. Just navigate to:
   New Build - Upload SRPM
or if you upgrade to python-copr-1.58-1 (submitted to updates just
today) then you can do:
   copr-cli build name/project ./some.src.rpm
While we assume that uploading SRPM will be most popular method, we
preserved option to pass SRPM url.
You can see new state of your build - Importing. It is obviously
the
moment when we import your SRPM into dist-git.

* In project properties (Edit tab) you can now add you email if you
want
to be contacted by users in case of some problems with your project.

* We improved queue handling of various architectures. This should
fix
those long waiting time of PPC64LE builds.

Big kudos go to Valentin G., Adam Š. and Jakub K., who implemented
those
features.

[1] https://www.patternfly.org/
[2] http://copr-dist-git.fedorainfracloud.org/cgit/

Mirek Suchý


Thanks to everybody involved in this. I'm especially happy with the
SRPM upload!

Great release! Thanks!

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New version of Copr (includes dist-git)

[Miroslav Suchy]

It is my pleasure to announce that we just upgraded
  https://copr.fedoraproject.org

It includes several major improvements:

* UI converted to PatternFly [1]. Most visible change is that tables
(e.g. list of builds) can be sorted using any column and you can filter
visible rows using any value.

* dist-git support -- We store your SRPM in dist-git now. It is not
accessible directly using fedpkg (it is in plan later). Dist-git is
browsable via cgit [2]. This allows us to offer you upload of SRPM
directly from your workstation. Just navigate to:
  New Build - Upload SRPM
or if you upgrade to python-copr-1.58-1 (submitted to updates just
today) then you can do:
  copr-cli build name/project ./some.src.rpm
While we assume that uploading SRPM will be most popular method, we
preserved option to pass SRPM url.
You can see new state of your build - Importing. It is obviously the
moment when we import your SRPM into dist-git.

* In project properties (Edit tab) you can now add you email if you want
to be contacted by users in case of some problems with your project.

* We improved queue handling of various architectures. This should fix
those long waiting time of PPC64LE builds.

Big kudos go to Valentin G., Adam Š. and Jakub K., who implemented those
features.

[1] https://www.patternfly.org/
[2] http://copr-dist-git.fedorainfracloud.org/cgit/

Mirek Suchý

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Re: New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchý]

On 01/28/2014 06:01 AM, Michael Stahnke wrote:
 Are there plans to add ARM?

It is my wish as well. My plan is to talk on upcoming DevConf.cz to several 
people if/how it can be done.

Additionally I'm in contact with Dan Horak from Secondary Arch team and we may 
get PPC builders. But the horizont is
several months.
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New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchy]

Hi,
I just deployed new version of Copr.

Changes:
 * copr-cli has been build for epel6 (no planned build for el5 due
dependency on python-requests)
 * you should see less internal server errors. Especially when deleting
tasks with multiple srpm
 * All packages produced by Copr now have as vendor Fedora Project COPR
(username/project)
 * if you add new chroot to your project, you can easily resubmit
missing builds from Monitor tab.
 * if you are logged in, then time in output respect your timezone which
you have in FAS.
 * previously sometime yum repo was not updated after successful build -
this has been fixed

Enjoy:
http://copr.fedoraproject.org/

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Re: New version of Copr

[Michael Stahnke]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Miroslav Suchy msu...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I just deployed new version of Copr.

 Changes:
  * copr-cli has been build for epel6 (no planned build for el5 due
 dependency on python-requests)
  * you should see less internal server errors. Especially when deleting
 tasks with multiple srpm
  * All packages produced by Copr now have as vendor Fedora Project COPR
 (username/project)
  * if you add new chroot to your project, you can easily resubmit
 missing builds from Monitor tab.
  * if you are logged in, then time in output respect your timezone which
 you have in FAS.
  * previously sometime yum repo was not updated after successful build -
 this has been fixed


Thanks!

Are there plans to add ARM?



 Enjoy:
 http://copr.fedoraproject.org/

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Re: New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchý]

On 01/14/2014 01:09 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 03:26 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
  I just deployed new version of Copr at:
http://copr.fedoraproject.org
  
  It have only one feature: you can now build in epel-7-x86_64!
  
  To be precise - the name epel is little bit misleading, because it is 
  right
  now based on RHEL 7 Beta and does not include EPEL repo, because it does 
  not
  exists yet.
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/beta/7/
 

Added.
So epel-7-x86_64 is now RHEL 7 beta plus EPEL 7.

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Re: New version of Copr

[Colin Macdonald]

On 01/13/2014 03:26 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote:

I just deployed new version of Copr at:


Hi Miroslav,

I just tried Copr.  Very nice!

1.  +1 for armhfp arch!  (On my mind b/c I've just spent a while 
playing with Fedora chroots on a Samsung Galaxy Note 8.)


2.  It would be very convenient to upload .spec files (and patches) 
rather than .src.rpm.  (I can image putting the spec files on github 
or other public git repo.)


thanks,
Colin
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New version of Copr

[Miroslav Suchy]

I just deployed new version of Copr at:
  http://copr.fedoraproject.org

It have only one feature: you can now build in epel-7-x86_64!

To be precise - the name epel is little bit misleading, because it is 
right now based on RHEL 7 Beta and does not include EPEL repo, because 
it does not exists yet.
But one day I will flip to Centos 7 and EPEL 7 and I do not want you to 
change chroots and configs, while I want to provide you the option of 
hacking your packages on top not-yet-finished RHEL 7.


Mirek

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Re: New version of Copr

[Orion Poplawski]

On 01/13/2014 03:26 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
 I just deployed new version of Copr at:
   http://copr.fedoraproject.org
 
 It have only one feature: you can now build in epel-7-x86_64!
 
 To be precise - the name epel is little bit misleading, because it is right
 now based on RHEL 7 Beta and does not include EPEL repo, because it does not
 exists yet.

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/beta/7/

 But one day I will flip to Centos 7 and EPEL 7 and I do not want you to change
 chroots and configs, while I want to provide you the option of hacking your
 packages on top not-yet-finished RHEL 7.
 
 Mirek
 

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