Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
George Bastin writes: Sorry Marius, it is not a violation of any law. Right. By the way, banning everyone from an organization from using a mailing list: that's not a violation of any law, either. It would also not be a violation of any law to notify administrators of other mailing lists what a certain organization tends to use mailing lists for. This will also be perfectly legal. You address is on a public mailing list, which anyone in the world can contact. A "public mailing list" is not a synonym for being open to "anyone in the world can" to send any message, on any topic, to the mailing list. I'm wondering what you would think about me sending a picture of my cute kitty- cat to this mailing list. Would that be appropriate? How come? After all, this is a public mailing list, and that's the only justification you offered for your action, quote: this is a "public mailing list". There were no further constraints. So, if this is good enough for your email, it should be good enough for my email too, with a picture of my kitty-cat. pgpZDZKu0LSqH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 03:32:33PM +, George Bastin wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Before_Posting_to_the_List I have updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Commercial_messages to be more clear. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
RE: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
Sorry Marius, it is not a violation of any law. You address is on a public mailing list, which anyone in the world can contact. I apologise if any offence was caused. -Original Message- From: PGNet Dev Sent: 27 January 2021 16:06 To: fedora...@cloud-foo.de; devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect And you're spamming MY 'private mailbox' now? Who made you the consumer police? Now, get lost, troll. On 1/27/21 11:01 AM, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 27.01.21 um 16:53 schrieb PGNet Dev: >> >> And that somehow justifies 'notifying the legal department' as a 1st >> response? > > Yeap, because he spammed my private mailbox too. As an Ex-Bosch employe i > know that Bosch is a good company, who won't tolerate spamming in their name > and it was also a violation of customer protection laws in Germany. He can be > happy, that it didn't go directly to the feds. > > How a about a public -1 now? > > Best regards, > Marius ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
And you're spamming MY 'private mailbox' now? Who made you the consumer police? Now, get lost, troll. On 1/27/21 11:01 AM, Marius Schwarz wrote: Am 27.01.21 um 16:53 schrieb PGNet Dev: And that somehow justifies 'notifying the legal department' as a 1st response? Yeap, because he spammed my private mailbox too. As an Ex-Bosch employe i know that Bosch is a good company, who won't tolerate spamming in their name and it was also a violation of customer protection laws in Germany. He can be happy, that it didn't go directly to the feds. How a about a public -1 now? Best regards, Marius ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:53:52AM -0500, PGNet Dev wrote: > And that somehow justifies 'notifying the legal department' as a 1st response? No. I agree that that's an overreaction. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
On 1/27/21 10:44 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 03:32:33PM +, George Bastin wrote: I thought it was a public mailing list, I noted the subject was Commercial in the Header as stated on the Fedora Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Before_Posting_to_the_List Sure seems reasonable to a 1st read here. At best the 'Guidelines' lack clarity. That paragraph doesn't mean that the list can be used for general commercial messages. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Stay_on-topic still also applies. If this job posting is directly relevant to Fedora (rather than just "some people in Fedora may have relevant skills"), that should be directly called out. And that somehow justifies 'notifying the legal department' as a 1st response? However, going out of your way to try to sabotage another person’s livelihood is way out of line. +1 to that. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 03:32:33PM +, George Bastin wrote: > I thought it was a public mailing list, I noted the subject was Commercial > in the Header as stated on the Fedora Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Before_Posting_to_the_List That paragraph doesn't mean that the list can be used for general commercial messages. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Stay_on-topic still also applies. If this job posting is directly relevant to Fedora (rather than just "some people in Fedora may have relevant skills"), that should be directly called out. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
RE: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
Apologies Marius I thought it was a public mailing list, I noted the subject was Commercial in the Header as stated on the Fedora Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Before_Posting_to_the_List However, going out of your way to try to sabotage another person’s livelihood is way out of line. George From: Marius Schwarz Sent: 27 January 2021 15:27 To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect Am 27.01.21 um 15:37 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: The following is an official statement. This list is NOT meant for these sorts of emails. Please do not post either CV or requests for hiring on this list. We will be deleting all further posts in this vein The legal departement of Bosch has already informed yesterday. best regards, Marius ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
Am 27.01.21 um 15:37 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: The following is an official statement. This list is NOT meant for these sorts of emails. Please do not post either CV or requests for hiring on this list. We will be deleting all further posts in this vein The legal departement of Bosch has already informed yesterday. best regards, Marius ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
The following is an official statement. On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 09:10, George Bastin wrote: > Dear colleagues at Fedora, > > > > I am hoping to discuss a *Senior Security and Systems > Architect/Engineering* opportunity I am working on directly with *Robert > Bosch Car Multimedia GmbH* with you! > > > > The position has a strong focus on *Open Source Technologies*, and Bosch > need someone who is highly skilled and passionate in this area. > > > This list is NOT meant for these sorts of emails. Please do not post either CV or requests for hiring on this list. We will be deleting all further posts in this vein -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect
Hello May you consider my cv https://www.hdfilm.kz/cv.pdf Отправлено с iPhone > 27 янв. 2021 г., в 20:09, George Bastin > написал(а): > > > Dear colleagues at Fedora, > > I am hoping to discuss a Senior Security and Systems Architect/Engineering > opportunity I am working on directly with Robert Bosch Car Multimedia GmbH > with you! > > The position has a strong focus on Open Source Technologies, and Bosch need > someone who is highly skilled and passionate in this area. > > It is an ideal role for a Package Maintainer. > > The salary ranges from 80,000 EUR – 120,000 EUR + Bonus and benefits. > > Would you be open to considering a relocation to Germany? > > Please do forward a copy of your CV to review, and I can happily give you a > brief call to discuss. > > > George Bastin > geo...@luckhurstdigital.com > +447500058379 > > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org