Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - snakeyaml
Thank you for clarifying, Fabio. And for pointing out the wrong main maintainer. I will get in tough with the hopefully correct main maintainer. Best wishes, Stefan - Ursprüngliche Mail - Von: "Fabio Valentini" An: "devel" Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. September 2021 19:24:36 Betreff: Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - snakeyaml On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 6:45 PM Stefan Bluhm wrote: > > Hello, > > I am following the non-responsive package maintainer process for "snakeyaml": > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ > > Bugzilla asking for response: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2007971 > > Bugzilla asking for snakeyaml maintenance: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1993621 > > Pagure ticket indicating that the maintainer e-mail address is not actively > maintained anymore: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10309 > > Maintainer: Please add me as contributor for EPEL packages. Just to clarify: The "not actively maintained" email address you're talking about here is the *private bugzilla mailing list* for the @java-maint-sig group. Groups also cannot be main maintainer for a package, that responsibility *always* lies with an actual person. So complaining about non-responsiveness to a group will not help, because it's the wrong recipient for it. Fabio ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - snakeyaml
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 6:45 PM Stefan Bluhm wrote: > > Hello, > > I am following the non-responsive package maintainer process for "snakeyaml": > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ > > Bugzilla asking for response: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2007971 > > Bugzilla asking for snakeyaml maintenance: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1993621 > > Pagure ticket indicating that the maintainer e-mail address is not actively > maintained anymore: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10309 > > Maintainer: Please add me as contributor for EPEL packages. Just to clarify: The "not actively maintained" email address you're talking about here is the *private bugzilla mailing list* for the @java-maint-sig group. Groups also cannot be main maintainer for a package, that responsibility *always* lies with an actual person. So complaining about non-responsiveness to a group will not help, because it's the wrong recipient for it. Fabio ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - Ray Strode (halfline), Plymouth package
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:17 AM, fedora201...@nuclearsunshine.com wrote: Hi Ray, unfortunately in some cases it doesn't though. It's currently completely breaking boot with amdgpu+LUKS, and before that for several months under amdgpu it was not echoing LUKS characters to screen or otherwise updating at all after showing the LUKS prompt, making it seem that password entry was not working and the boot process had frozen. Since this is a very common setup, surely it should be a release blocker bug. I would propose it using the usual blocker review process. In fact, since this bug looks like a disaster, I'm going to do that now. I'm not jumping up and down demanding "devote all your time to fix my Plymouth bug(s)!" ;) (I've disabled RHGB for now on my system in any case); rather saying that if there aren't enough resources to make this level of maintenance realistic at the moment, it might be worth looking at whether it's still a good idea for Plymouth to continue to be enabled by default? If a bug prevents booting, please propose it using the blocker review process. Unless it requires a really esoteric hardware setup, it's probably a blocker. Michael ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - Ray Strode (halfline), Plymouth package
On Mon, 2018-10-01 at 16:52 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:29 PM Stephen < > fedora201...@nuclearsunshine.com> wrote: > > The maintainer for Plymouth, Ray Strode (halfline), is not > > addressing > > its bugs on RHBZ (one response all year on a single bug, accepting > > a > > patch), including showstopper bugs that are preventing boot > > entirely in > > some instances. > > I'm around, but I work on a lot of stuff. plymouth doesn't get a lot > of attention, > since it basically works. Hi Ray, unfortunately in some cases it doesn't though. It's currently completely breaking boot with amdgpu+LUKS, and before that for several months under amdgpu it was not echoing LUKS characters to screen or otherwise updating at all after showing the LUKS prompt, making it seem that password entry was not working and the boot process had frozen. > It doesn't see as much development as some > components because other parts of the stack have been prioritized. > > Having said that, Hans de Goede has taken up the mantle of improving > the > boot experience recently, including some changes to plymouth. So you > should > see some changes soon. > > plymouth does get fixes for blocker issues when necessary, and i > still give it > some attention upstream. > > It is receiving the amount resources we considered appropriate at the > moment. Plymouth sits in the unusual position of being simultaneously boot- critical when enabled, and not actually necessary to the boot process (AFAIK?) I believe there's a fair case to be made that for a component with these unusual characteristics to be default-enabled in Fedora, it needs enough maintenance resources available for it to continue to work (modulo short breakages) on at least non-esoteric hardware with which Fedora otherwise works. I'm not jumping up and down demanding "devote all your time to fix my Plymouth bug(s)!" ;) (I've disabled RHGB for now on my system in any case); rather saying that if there aren't enough resources to make this level of maintenance realistic at the moment, it might be worth looking at whether it's still a good idea for Plymouth to continue to be enabled by default? Alternatively, if a reasonably flexible blacklist is possible (or exists?), that might be lower-maintenance, and obviously less nuclear option than default-disabling Plymouth. > > --Ray > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - Ray Strode (halfline), Plymouth package
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:29 PM Stephen wrote: > The maintainer for Plymouth, Ray Strode (halfline), is not addressing > its bugs on RHBZ (one response all year on a single bug, accepting a > patch), including showstopper bugs that are preventing boot entirely in > some instances. I'm around, but I work on a lot of stuff. plymouth doesn't get a lot of attention, since it basically works. It doesn't see as much development as some components because other parts of the stack have been prioritized. Having said that, Hans de Goede has taken up the mantle of improving the boot experience recently, including some changes to plymouth. So you should see some changes soon. plymouth does get fixes for blocker issues when necessary, and i still give it some attention upstream. It is receiving the amount resources we considered appropriate at the moment. --Ray ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
Another problem package cicku has to react in reasonable short time for is now docky with FTBFS in rawhide cause of gcc6: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1307430 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku > regarding the maintenance of the backintime package. > There is one open bug, which requests an update [1] and additionally a > trac ticket [2] was also opened, not by me. > I can see, that with an upgrade to later versions we'll loose the > differentiation between a KDE and Gnome GUI, but I don't see why that > really is an issue. > Additionally two request to become co-maintainer are unanswered so far, so > I hope that we'll get that sorted pretty quick. > Possibly there are some Chinese New Year festivities, so perhaps we'll > give him some more time, but I would love to get some feedback. > > Johannes > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1186184 > [2] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1542 > CCing Christopher. jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Johannes Lips wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Lips >> > >> You make a lot of assumptions in that statement. People filter email >> quite a bit and relying on bugzilla mail alone is not sufficient. >> >> I find it ironic that your original email said "I would like to >> formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku.." but you >> didn't bother to email him directly. That doesn't strike me as very >> formal. I'm under no illusions that he is likely to respond to direct >> contact either, but it should at least be attempted. >> > Why do I need to defend myself for following, perhaps not perfectly, the > normal procedure in these cases and additionally I offered my help > maintaining that package. > I and another packager requested co-maintainership and are willing to help > out, so I really don't see why I need to defend myself for the willingness to > give up my valuable spare time. I asked if you had sent him an email directly and instead of doing that you waved off my question with assumptions. I think it's fantastic you want to pick up the packages and I fully support that. However your attempt to follow the process is one of many lately that don't actually follow the process and seem to want to short-circuit to the end result. The purpose of having a process is to follow it because we have reasons for doing so. Reminding people of that is part of the deal. Conversely, if those reasons don't make sense then perhaps we need to revise the process. Either way, having a discussion around it isn't an attack that you need to defend yourself against. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Lips wrote: > > You make a lot of assumptions in that statement. People filter email > quite a bit and relying on bugzilla mail alone is not sufficient. > > I find it ironic that your original email said "I would like to > formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku.." but you > didn't bother to email him directly. That doesn't strike me as very > formal. I'm under no illusions that he is likely to respond to direct > contact either, but it should at least be attempted. > Why do I need to defend myself for following, perhaps not perfectly, the normal procedure in these cases and additionally I offered my help maintaining that package. I and another packager requested co-maintainership and are willing to help out, so I really don't see why I need to defend myself for the willingness to give up my valuable spare time. Johannes > josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Josh Boyer > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Johannes Lips >> wrote: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I would like to formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku >> > regarding the maintenance of the backintime package. >> >> Did you actually email cicku directly? I don't see him on CC. > > > He may be on another Fedora hiatus again. I have a stalled review from last > October and have attempted to ping him both in the BZ and direct email with > no response. That is helpful to know. Thank you for chiming in. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Lips wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Johannes Lips >> > >> Did you actually email cicku directly? I don't see him on CC. >> > Well, apparently I didn't add him to this e-mail, but he should have received > enough notifications from bugzilla already. Additionally from someone who > maintains more than 200 packages in fedora, I kind of expect that he is > reachable within a reasonable time-frame. Otherwise it might be too much > hassle, if something needs to be fixed. You make a lot of assumptions in that statement. People filter email quite a bit and relying on bugzilla mail alone is not sufficient. I find it ironic that your original email said "I would like to formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku.." but you didn't bother to email him directly. That doesn't strike me as very formal. I'm under no illusions that he is likely to respond to direct contact either, but it should at least be attempted. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: > > Did you actually email cicku directly? I don't see him on CC. > Well, apparently I didn't add him to this e-mail, but he should have received enough notifications from bugzilla already. Additionally from someone who maintains more than 200 packages in fedora, I kind of expect that he is reachable within a reasonable time-frame. Otherwise it might be too much hassle, if something needs to be fixed. Johannes > josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Johannes Lips > wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I would like to formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku > regarding the maintenance of the backintime package. > > Did you actually email cicku directly? I don't see him on CC. He may be on another Fedora hiatus again. I have a stalled review from last October and have attempted to ping him both in the BZ and direct email with no response. Thanks, Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to formally send a mail requesting some feedback from cicku > regarding the maintenance of the backintime package. Did you actually email cicku directly? I don't see him on CC. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer (affix)
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Jamie Nguyen wrote: > I think you should probably ignore the fact that Affix happens to be the > first point of contact, and instead email "peter" or "jpo" who are the > active maintainers. I've notified them multiple times as well. BZ assigns the ticket to the listed package owner which is the reason this issue probably occurred in the first place. Brandon Vincent -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer (affix)
On 09/10/14 06:28, Brandon Vincent wrote: > Over the past month, I have tried contacting Keiran Smith (affix) in > regards to nagios with no success [1]. > > Is anyone aware to his present status in regards to the Fedora Project > or possibly have an alternative method to reach him? Strangely, no successful builds from Affix in ~7 years of koji build logs [1], and there are only 4 (trivial) commits from Affix in the git history in July 2013. I think you should probably ignore the fact that Affix happens to be the first point of contact, and instead email "peter" or "jpo" who are the active maintainers. [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?buildStart=0&packageID=2593 -- Jamie Nguyen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: >> >> Hi Jon, >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: >>> > >>> > I would like to call your attention to the following bug: >>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771262 >>> > >>> >>> The EL6 branch 0.5.2 and EL5 has 0.4.3 in git already, just not build, >>> would those suffice until the maintainer updates them? >>> >> >> No, I am afraid I need at least 0.7.0. >> On CentOS 6, I have been using the Fedora 14 package for nautilus-python >> for a long time >> (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=199753). It works >> perfectly. All I had to do was to build from the source RPM. It doesn't >> require any modifications. I am also quite certain that it would work on >> CentOS 5. >> If someone can help me out, I would really appreciate it. I have been >> running after this package for almost 6 months. > > Gotcha. I'll take a peek. Update for EL-6 is out, you can get the build from koji: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=311890 EL-5 wouldn't build with that version due to a lack of gnome-python2-devel, I'll check it out. -J > -J > >> Thanks! >> >> -Caghan Demirci >> University of Delaware >> >> >> >> -- >> devel mailing list >> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > > -- > in your fear, seek only peace > in your fear, seek only love > > -d. bowie -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: >> > >> > I would like to call your attention to the following bug: >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771262 >> > >> >> The EL6 branch 0.5.2 and EL5 has 0.4.3 in git already, just not build, >> would those suffice until the maintainer updates them? >> > > No, I am afraid I need at least 0.7.0. > On CentOS 6, I have been using the Fedora 14 package for nautilus-python > for a long time > (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=199753). It works > perfectly. All I had to do was to build from the source RPM. It doesn't > require any modifications. I am also quite certain that it would work on > CentOS 5. > If someone can help me out, I would really appreciate it. I have been > running after this package for almost 6 months. Gotcha. I'll take a peek. -J > Thanks! > > -Caghan Demirci > University of Delaware > > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer
Hi Jon, On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: > > > > I would like to call your attention to the following bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771262 > > > > The EL6 branch 0.5.2 and EL5 has 0.4.3 in git already, just not build, > would those suffice until the maintainer updates them? > > No, I am afraid I need at least 0.7.0. On CentOS 6, I have been using the Fedora 14 package for nautilus-python for a long time (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=199753). It works perfectly. All I had to do was to build from the source RPM. It doesn't require any modifications. I am also quite certain that it would work on CentOS 5. If someone can help me out, I would really appreciate it. I have been running after this package for almost 6 months. Thanks! -Caghan Demirci University of Delaware -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Non-responsive package maintainer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Caghan Demirci wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > I would like to call your attention to the following bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771262 > > What is required is a build of a small and simple package for EPEL. > However, I am unable to contact the maintainer for a long time, by any > means. > > Could another maintainer take care of this simple task? If you feel up to > it, it shouldn't take more than an hour. The EL6 branch 0.5.2 and EL5 has 0.4.3 in git already, just not build, would those suffice until the maintainer updates them? -J > If no one wants to do it, then I am applying to co-maintain this package. > I am certain I would be able to take good care of this task. Could someone > sponsor me to be a package maintainer? > > Thanks and best wishes! > > -Caghan Demirci > University of Delaware > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
