Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-09 Thread Kamil Paral
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:18 PM Richard W.M. Jones  wrote:

> recordmydesktop was retired in F27:
>
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/
>
> It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was
> able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very
> useful little tool.
>

Rich, it depends on what you want to use it for. However, I regularly use
Peek installed from Flathub and I'm very happy with it.
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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-09 Thread Mat Booth
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 19:50, Michael Schwendt  wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:17:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> > recordmydesktop was retired in F27:
> >
> >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/
> >
> > It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was
> > able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very
> > useful little tool.
>
> Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1
>
> | Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being
> | abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs,
> | and was not at all working on Wayland.
>
> There are various WONTFIX and EOL issues tracked in bugzilla. Bringing
> back the package without going through those tickets first doesn't sound
> like a good idea.
>

Agreed. Not only did I get quite regular abrt reports for both
recordmydesktop and gtk-recordmydesktop, I also received a good deal of
flak from people who had the (quite reasonable, IMO) expectation that it
would work on our default windowing system... So I suppose you take
ownership of it at your own peril.


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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-08 Thread Alex Thomas
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:40 AM Richard W.M. Jones 
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 12:59:40PM +0100, Felipe Borges wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> > >
> > > On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > > > Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800:
> > > >> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > >>> On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > >  I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland
> > >  can't be
> > >  held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland
> > >  since
> > >  that isn't supported yet.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
> > > >>
> > > >> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have
> > > >> support
> > > >> for that now?
> > > >
> > > > You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not
> only
> > > > the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg.
> > > > Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen
> frames)
> > > > is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover.
> > >
> > > Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable
> > > Wayland on all the systems I install.
> >
> > See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop
>
> >When is Wayland going to get X11-style >remote applications support?
>
> >Rich.
>

When someone big tells RH that RHEL 8 w/ wayland is a non starter until
that is fixed. Same way that you finally got local plain text logs under
systemd.

>
>
>
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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 12:59:40PM +0100, Felipe Borges wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> >
> > On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > > Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800:
> > >> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > >>> On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >  I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland
> >  can't be
> >  held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland
> >  since
> >  that isn't supported yet.
> > >>>
> > >>> GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
> > >>
> > >> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have
> > >> support
> > >> for that now?
> > >
> > > You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only
> > > the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg.
> > > Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames)
> > > is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover.
> >
> > Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable
> > Wayland on all the systems I install.
> 
> See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop

When is Wayland going to get X11-style remote applications support?

Rich.

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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-08 Thread Felipe Borges
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
>
> On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800:
> >> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>  I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland
>  can't be
>  held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland
>  since
>  that isn't supported yet.
> >>>
> >>> GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
> >>
> >> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have
> >> support
> >> for that now?
> >
> > You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only
> > the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg.
> > Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames)
> > is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover.
>
> Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable
> Wayland on all the systems I install.

See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop

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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:

Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800:

On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:

I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland
can't be
held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland
since
that isn't supported yet.


GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.


Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have
support
for that now?


You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only
the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg.
Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames)
is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover.


Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable 
Wayland on all the systems I install.

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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-06 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800:
> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland
> > > can't be
> > > held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland
> > > since
> > > that isn't supported yet.
> > 
> > GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
> 
> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have
> support 
> for that now?

You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only
the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg.
Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames)
is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover.

Jiri
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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-06 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Je lun, 2018-11-05 je 17:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb skribis:
> > GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
> 
> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support 
> for that now?

I believe the recording happens in the same process as the Wayland
compositor.



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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 17:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be
> > > held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since
> > > that isn't supported yet.
> > 
> > GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
> 
> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support 
> for that now?

I've no idea. I just know it works.
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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:

I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be
held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since
that isn't supported yet.


GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.


Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support 
for that now?

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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/4/18 11:47 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1
> > 
> > > Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being
> > > abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs,
> > > and was not at all working on Wayland.
> 
> I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be 
> held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since 
> that isn't supported yet.

GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine.
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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-04 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/4/18 11:47 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1

| Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being
| abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs,
| and was not at all working on Wayland.


I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be 
held against it.  Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since 
that isn't supported yet.

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Re: Unretire recordmydesktop

2018-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:17:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

> recordmydesktop was retired in F27:
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/
> 
> It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was
> able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very
> useful little tool.

Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1

| Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being
| abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs,
| and was not at all working on Wayland.

There are various WONTFIX and EOL issues tracked in bugzilla. Bringing
back the package without going through those tickets first doesn't sound
like a good idea.
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