Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi David,

On Friday, 2014-02-14 17:48:42 +0100, David Tardon wrote:

 It was mainly a communication problem: I was prepared to handle the
 rebuilds, but when Eike did not ping me that he built new ICU, I assumed
 that he got hold of some other provenpackager :-(

Ok, next time I'll explicitly ping you once the build is ready.

  Eike

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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:44:12 -0800
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 icu requires quite a large number of rebuilds, including some tricky
 ones (I just did tracker, which has to be bootstrapped, and
 libreoffice is another...), so I think it's reasonable to assume the
 icu maintainer isn't going to be doing them all, and help out with
 the rest. gnustep is being a PITA now. le sigh.

I'll also note that the icu maintain is not a provenpackager.

I should have offered to help when they announced the upgrade. 

Next time we should see if we can line up some folks to do rebuilds
faster on it. 

kevin


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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-14 Thread David Tardon
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 08:47:25AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:44:12 -0800
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  icu requires quite a large number of rebuilds, including some tricky
  ones (I just did tracker, which has to be bootstrapped, and
  libreoffice is another...), so I think it's reasonable to assume the
  icu maintainer isn't going to be doing them all, and help out with
  the rest. gnustep is being a PITA now. le sigh.
 
 I'll also note that the icu maintain is not a provenpackager.

It was mainly a communication problem: I was prepared to handle the
rebuilds, but when Eike did not ping me that he built new ICU, I assumed
that he got hold of some other provenpackager :-(

D.
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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
Hi,

On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 20:19 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Parag N(पराग़) panem...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built few
  packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person can't
  carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump.
 Whoever (people names) want to rebuild packages should announce on devel
  list first. Looks like harfbuzz package is picked twice for these rebuilds.
  Both rebuilds happened in within 30 minutes time period.
 
 Your guess is as good as mine. I asked on IRC in #fedora-devel after
 my package failed to build on Rawhide and was told that there was a
 soname bump for icu and was given an all clear to rebuild it. I then
 nphilipp rebuild it after me for whatever reason. I have no idea why
 they rebuilt again (maybe they had a reason).

sorry for stepping on your toes -- it was late in the evening and there
were three packages blocking my build, I simply overlooked that harfbuzz
was rebuilt already (I checked the others in koji and no builds were
underway).

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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-13 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com wrote:
 sorry for stepping on your toes -- it was late in the evening and there
 were three packages blocking my build, I simply overlooked that harfbuzz
 was rebuilt already (I checked the others in koji and no builds were
 underway).

No problem.
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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:26 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
 Hi,
 
From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built
 few packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person
 can't carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump.
 
Whoever (people names) want to rebuild packages should announce on
 devel list first. Looks like harfbuzz package is picked twice for
 these rebuilds. Both rebuilds happened in within 30 minutes time
 period.

It doesn't really cause any terrible pain for a double rebuild to
happen. devel@ being flooded with I'm about to rebuild X! would
certainly cause a lot more inconvenience.
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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-13 Thread पराग़
Hi all,

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:

 On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:26 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
  Hi,
 
 From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built
  few packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person
  can't carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump.
 
 Whoever (people names) want to rebuild packages should announce on
  devel list first. Looks like harfbuzz package is picked twice for
  these rebuilds. Both rebuilds happened in within 30 minutes time
  period.

 It doesn't really cause any terrible pain for a double rebuild to
 happen. devel@ being flooded with I'm about to rebuild X! would
 certainly cause a lot more inconvenience.


 Right there is no harm. One can only bump the release and carry a rebuild
without any change in spec. What I thought is that generally people whose
packages gets soname bump used to carry package rebuilds for its dependent
packages also. Same has already happened with libicu soname bump in the
past. This time it was not clear if libicu maintainer is going for these
package rebuilds or not.
  Anyway I assume libicu maintainer want to only push libicu update and let
the dependent package owners to rebuild their packages. I have just rebuilt
fontmatrix now.

Thanks,
Parag.
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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:27 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
 Hi all,  
 
 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com
 wrote:
 On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:26 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
  Hi,
 
 From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4
 people built
  few packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a
 single person
  can't carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname
 bump.
 
 Whoever (people names) want to rebuild packages should
 announce on
  devel list first. Looks like harfbuzz package is picked
 twice for
  these rebuilds. Both rebuilds happened in within 30 minutes
 time
  period.
 
 
 It doesn't really cause any terrible pain for a double rebuild
 to
 happen. devel@ being flooded with I'm about to rebuild X!
 would
 certainly cause a lot more inconvenience.
 
 
  Right there is no harm. One can only bump the release and carry a
 rebuild without any change in spec. What I thought is that generally
 people whose packages gets soname bump used to carry package rebuilds
 for its dependent packages also. Same has already happened with libicu
 soname bump in the past. This time it was not clear if libicu
 maintainer is going for these package rebuilds or not.
 
   Anyway I assume libicu maintainer want to only push libicu update
 and let the dependent package owners to rebuild their packages. I have
 just rebuilt fontmatrix now.

icu requires quite a large number of rebuilds, including some tricky
ones (I just did tracker, which has to be bootstrapped, and libreoffice
is another...), so I think it's reasonable to assume the icu maintainer
isn't going to be doing them all, and help out with the rest. gnustep is
being a PITA now. le sigh.
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Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Parag N(पराग़) panem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built few
 packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person can't
 carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump.
Whoever (people names) want to rebuild packages should announce on devel
 list first. Looks like harfbuzz package is picked twice for these rebuilds.
 Both rebuilds happened in within 30 minutes time period.

Your guess is as good as mine. I asked on IRC in #fedora-devel after
my package failed to build on Rawhide and was told that there was a
soname bump for icu and was given an all clear to rebuild it. I then
nphilipp rebuild it after me for whatever reason. I have no idea why
they rebuilt again (maybe they had a reason).

Ideally the person who did the soname bump for icu would have rebuilt
harfbuzz with it (er...@redhat.com). This happens quite often and it's
quite annoying.

Dan
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