Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2021-01-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 06:41:36AM +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
> Is this still active?  My Firefox plugins are getting disabled and I
> cannot install new ones (they are reported as corrupt).  Is there a new
> instance of this bug?

Yeah, it came back because as Adams says:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018#c19
"So for the record this bug is back because mstransky switched Firefox
back to building against system NSS, but did not patch it as Bob
recommended to still allow SHA-1 signatures. I'll see if I can do that."

But the fix in firefox hasn't yet landed. 

Your best bet right now is: 

sudo update-crypto-policies --set DEFAULT:FEDORA32

for now. 

kevin

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posts. ;) 
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> On Fri Dec 18, 2020 at 5:30 PM WAT, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-12-18 at 07:33 -0700, James Szinger wrote:
> > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:17:21 -0800
> > > Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > > > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have
> > > > to remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss). 
> > > > 
> > > > For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
> > > > sorted out. 
> > > > 
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018
> > > > 
> > > > kevin
> > > 
> > > I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
> > > are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?
> >
> > It's fixed.
> >
> > >   The bug is still open.
> >
> > Because we still need to do something (or, rather, get Mozilla to do
> > something) about the underlying situation.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 18:54 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:45 PM Adam Williamson
>  wrote:
> 
> > I wrote in the update that in my opinion the solution for this bug
> > can't involve expecting add-ons to suddenly get re-signed en masse, or
> > users to change their local configuration. It needs to keep working as
> > it did before. If the policy is ahead of the real world, the policy
> > needs to be loosened.
> 
> It was my (possibly failing) recollection that Mozilla
> has been signing add-ons with SHA2 (and SHA1
> for compatibility) for a few years now.  Is this just
> an issue because Mozilla has not re-signed existing
> add-ons (which while is obviously not something to
> be taken lightly, because they do control the primary
> distribution point(*) should be at least theoretically
> possible to do a bulk re-signing, and probably a
> good thing to do to avoid needing to downgrade
> their security stance), or is Mozilla not signing
> with SHA2 as I thought?

Well, installing uBlock Origin (which is a pretty frequently updated
addon) on a fresh VM fails, with the change. So I suspect it's the
latter.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-29 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:45 PM Adam Williamson
 wrote:

> I wrote in the update that in my opinion the solution for this bug
> can't involve expecting add-ons to suddenly get re-signed en masse, or
> users to change their local configuration. It needs to keep working as
> it did before. If the policy is ahead of the real world, the policy
> needs to be loosened.

It was my (possibly failing) recollection that Mozilla
has been signing add-ons with SHA2 (and SHA1
for compatibility) for a few years now.  Is this just
an issue because Mozilla has not re-signed existing
add-ons (which while is obviously not something to
be taken lightly, because they do control the primary
distribution point(*) should be at least theoretically
possible to do a bulk re-signing, and probably a
good thing to do to avoid needing to downgrade
their security stance), or is Mozilla not signing
with SHA2 as I thought?



(*) Yes, there are other distribution points for
add-ons other than Mozilla itself, and they, too,
would need to consider such re-signing.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:27:06AM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Am 29.12.20 um 00:36 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
> > 
> > Yeah, workaround for now:
> > 
> > sudo update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32
> > 
> 
> No ...
> 
> # update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32
> Error: Unknown policy: FEDORA

Sorry, that should be: 

sudo update-crypto-policies --set DEFAULT:FEDORA32

kevin


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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-29 Thread Marius Schwarz

Am 29.12.20 um 10:27 schrieb Marius Schwarz:

Am 29.12.20 um 00:36 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:


Yeah, workaround for now:

sudo update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32



No ...

# update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32
Error: Unknown policy: FEDORA


Workaround for now on Rawhides Pinephone:

update-crypto-policies --set LEGACY
reboot
.. waiting 2 minutes for systemd, because it does not react to it's 
configured timeouts on User Managers...

.. hard shutdown due to impatiency ..
reinstalling firefox addons

best regards,
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-29 Thread Marius Schwarz

Am 29.12.20 um 00:36 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:


Yeah, workaround for now:

sudo update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32



No ...

# update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32
Error: Unknown policy: FEDORA


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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2020-12-28 at 15:36 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:58:49PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> > Am 18.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb James Szinger:
> > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:17:21 -0800
> > > Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > > > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have
> > > > to remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
> > > > 
> > > > For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
> > > > sorted out.
> > > > 
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018
> > > > 
> > > > kevin
> > > I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
> > > are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
> > > still open.
> > > 
> > 
> > nss 3.59.0-3 did not reach Rawhide AARCH64 repos and therefore firefox
> > addons can't be installed atm.
> 
> Yeah, workaround for now: 
> 
> sudo update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32
> 
> PS: no need to cc me on posts to the list. :)

It's not that something "didn't reach" Rawhide, either. The NSS
maintainer intends nss in Rawhide to respect the system-wide policy by
default. We need mstransky to patch Firefox to use the system-wide NSS
*but* allow SHA-1 signatures for add-ons.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:58:49PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Am 18.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb James Szinger:
> > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:17:21 -0800
> > Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > 
> > > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have
> > > to remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
> > > 
> > > For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
> > > sorted out.
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018
> > > 
> > > kevin
> > I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
> > are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
> > still open.
> > 
> 
> nss 3.59.0-3 did not reach Rawhide AARCH64 repos and therefore firefox
> addons can't be installed atm.

Yeah, workaround for now: 

sudo update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32

PS: no need to cc me on posts to the list. :)

kevin


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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-28 Thread Marius Schwarz

Am 18.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb James Szinger:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:17:21 -0800
Kevin Fenzi  wrote:


If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have
to remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).

For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
sorted out.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018

kevin

I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
still open.



nss 3.59.0-3 did not reach Rawhide AARCH64 repos and therefore firefox 
addons can't be installed atm.


best regards,
Marius Schwarz

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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-27 Thread David Both


Ok, I am the n00b here but I have experienced some nss related problems 
since upgrading to Fedora 33. I found that the systemd-resolved service 
interferes with
or corrupts previously normal nss functions, most related. to the 
resolver.


For example, when some hosts used systemd-resolved and others used nss, 
dig and nslookup don't resolve properly. Sometmes ping does work. 
Sometimes extrernal
lookups work and internals don't and sometimes the other way round. But 
the exact symptom can depend on which type of host you are working with.


I stopped and disabled systemd-resolved and all of those problems 
disappeared. Firefox now works fine for me as do all my network services.


http://www.linux-databook.info/?page_id=5951

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, Kevin Fenzi wrote:


Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:32:28 -0800
From: Kevin Fenzi 
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora

To: Development discussions related to Fedora 
Subject: Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 05:33:57PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:

Am 18.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb James Szinger:

I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates. Is this fixed or
are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
still open.



Can someone pls lush this into rawhide? There is only -2 WITH the SHA-1
blockade.


firefox-84.0-6 in rawhide (the latest package available) has enabled
it's bundled nss that doesn't do that check. ;(
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1659741
So, upgrading to that should work around the problem.

Of course it causes other problems, like firefox exposing all the nss
provides.

The best workaround for now would be firefox adding some code to exempt
itself from the sha1 check for now and resume building against the
system nss and the system nss re-enabling the sha1 check.

The real solution is of course mozilla updaing add-ons to not use sha1.
;)

kevin


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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 05:33:57PM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Am 18.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb James Szinger:
> > I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates. Is this fixed or
> > are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
> > still open.
> > 
> 
> Can someone pls lush this into rawhide? There is only -2 WITH the SHA-1
> blockade.

firefox-84.0-6 in rawhide (the latest package available) has enabled
it's bundled nss that doesn't do that check. ;( 
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1659741
So, upgrading to that should work around the problem. 

Of course it causes other problems, like firefox exposing all the nss
provides. 

The best workaround for now would be firefox adding some code to exempt
itself from the sha1 check for now and resume building against the
system nss and the system nss re-enabling the sha1 check. 

The real solution is of course mozilla updaing add-ons to not use sha1.
;) 

kevin


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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-19 Thread Marius Schwarz

Am 18.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb James Szinger:

I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates. Is this fixed or
are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
still open.



Can someone pls lush this into rawhide? There is only -2 WITH the SHA-1 
blockade.



Best regards,
Marius
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-12-18 at 07:33 -0700, James Szinger wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:17:21 -0800
> Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> 
> > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have
> > to remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss). 
> > 
> > For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
> > sorted out. 
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018
> > 
> > kevin
> 
> I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
> are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?

It's fixed.

>   The bug is still open.

Because we still need to do something (or, rather, get Mozilla to do
something) about the underlying situation.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-18 Thread Tom Hughes via devel

On 18/12/2020 14:33, James Szinger wrote:


I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
still open.


From https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1658942:

* Tue Dec 15 2020 Bob Relyea  - 3.59.0-3
- Back out strict SHA-1 signature control because firefox
  Addon system is still using sha-1 signatures

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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-18 Thread James Szinger
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:17:21 -0800
Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have
> to remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss). 
> 
> For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
> sorted out. 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018
> 
> kevin

I see nss.x86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates.  Is this fixed or
are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users?  The bug is
still open.

Thanks,
Jim
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-16 Thread Marius Schwarz

Am 15.12.20 um 20:17 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:

If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have to
remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).


apropos firefox: current builds for firefox are not finishing . If you 
check the koji page for firefox, you see what I mean.


Of course, the information about the build could just not have reached 
koji.


best regads,
Marius
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 02:40 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> Sorry to be a bother, but is there another side effect from having
> this update installed on a server? As far as I could tell from the
> discussion on the update page, only the sha1 signed firefox add-ons
> are concerned, but I could be missing something.

From the comments on the update I'm not sure *precisely* what the scope
of the change is, but it's at least possible that the behaviour of
anything that uses NSS for cryptography could have changed with this
update. Things that don't use NSS won't be affected of course.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Sorry to be a bother, but is there another side effect from having
this update installed on a server? As far as I could tell from the
discussion on the update page, only the sha1 signed firefox add-ons
are concerned, but I could be missing something.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hi Jerry,

> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:08 PM Alexander Ploumistos
>  
> You're a gmail user like me.  Between approximately 90 and 30 minutes
> ago, I had several people call me to ask why I had deleted my email
> account.  Email sent to me was bouncing back with a message that the
> account did not exist.  Then I started receiving email again about 30
> minutes ago.  I don't know what happened, but something seems to have
> hiccupped over at Google.

You're right, another Google outage has been reported and after managing to 
figure out the time zones in the reports, it does coincide with the time frame 
of the missing messages. Mystery solved.

Thank you!

A. 
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:08 PM Alexander Ploumistos
 wrote:
> Off topic, is there a way to see the message headers in Hyperkitty?
> I'm trying to figure out why 4 messages in this thread were never
> delivered to me.

You're a gmail user like me.  Between approximately 90 and 30 minutes
ago, I had several people call me to ask why I had deleted my email
account.  Email sent to me was bouncing back with a message that the
account did not exist.  Then I started receiving email again about 30
minutes ago.  I don't know what happened, but something seems to have
hiccupped over at Google.

If anybody tried to send me email over the last couple of hours, I
probably didn't get it.  Please try again.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Off topic, is there a way to see the message headers in Hyperkitty?
I'm trying to figure out why 4 messages in this thread were never
delivered to me.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:45 AM Adam Williamson
 wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 17:59 -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote:
> > On 12/15/20 5:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 22:38 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:04 PM Alexander Ploumistos
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox 
> > > > > > add-ons
> > > > > > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will 
> > > > > > have to
> > > > > > remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
> > > > > installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
> > > > > add-ons are looking good.
> > > >
> > > > So, I spoke too soon. I just got notified that one of my add-ons is
> > > > misbehaving and it has been disabled. I'm still on the same session I
> > > > was when I sent the previous message, nothing was installed or updated
> > > > in the meantime. Is this bug time-based or something?
> > >
> > > You didn't answer the question whether you had restarted Firefox since
> > > installing the new nss.

I never received the above message. To answer the question, according
to my dnf history the update to nss was installed almost 24 hours ago
and by the time the bug appeared I had already shut down and restarted
my computer at least three times, firefox itself had been restarted a
few times more.


> > >
> > > Either way, probably Firefox is doing a periodic check of installed
> > > add-ons and that fails whenever it happens now. The issue is they're
> > > signed with SHA-1 certs, but nss is now not accepting SHA-1 per the
> > > current system-wide policy.

Since I did not want to reconfigure all of my add-ons, I restored a
two-day-old backup of the ~/.mozilla folder (after renaming the
existing one) and oddly, the toolbar buttons of my add-ons were
invisible. I had to disable and re-enable them to get them to appear.
Firefox containers still had to be reinstalled and I can't understand
why. The backup was from before the problematic nss update, is
something else stored outside ~/.mozilla ?
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 17:59 -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote:
> On 12/15/20 5:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 22:38 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:04 PM Alexander Ploumistos
> > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > > > > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have 
> > > > > to
> > > > > remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
> > > > 
> > > > I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
> > > > installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
> > > > add-ons are looking good.
> > > 
> > > So, I spoke too soon. I just got notified that one of my add-ons is
> > > misbehaving and it has been disabled. I'm still on the same session I
> > > was when I sent the previous message, nothing was installed or updated
> > > in the meantime. Is this bug time-based or something?
> > 
> > You didn't answer the question whether you had restarted Firefox since
> > installing the new nss.
> > 
> > Either way, probably Firefox is doing a periodic check of installed
> > add-ons and that fails whenever it happens now. The issue is they're
> > signed with SHA-1 certs, but nss is now not accepting SHA-1 per the
> > current system-wide policy.
> 
> Since there is no great way for end-users to motivate the various add-on 
> creators to update their certs, this sounds like a serious problem.
> 
> For now I've put an exclude in my dnf.conf to prevent any nss upgrades, but 
> that is also not a great solution, for obvious reasons.  Perhaps there will 
> have to be a way for end-users to override the check for critical add-ons.  
> Hopefully the add-on creators will eventually switch certs, but that could 
> take a very long time.

To be clear, the update is not stable for F33 and should not go stable.
It's only in updates-testing.

I wrote in the update that in my opinion the solution for this bug
can't involve expecting add-ons to suddenly get re-signed en masse, or
users to change their local configuration. It needs to keep working as
it did before. If the policy is ahead of the real world, the policy
needs to be loosened.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Steven A. Falco

On 12/15/20 5:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 22:38 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:04 PM Alexander Ploumistos
 wrote:


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:


If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have to
remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).


I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
add-ons are looking good.


So, I spoke too soon. I just got notified that one of my add-ons is
misbehaving and it has been disabled. I'm still on the same session I
was when I sent the previous message, nothing was installed or updated
in the meantime. Is this bug time-based or something?


You didn't answer the question whether you had restarted Firefox since
installing the new nss.

Either way, probably Firefox is doing a periodic check of installed
add-ons and that fails whenever it happens now. The issue is they're
signed with SHA-1 certs, but nss is now not accepting SHA-1 per the
current system-wide policy.


Since there is no great way for end-users to motivate the various add-on 
creators to update their certs, this sounds like a serious problem.

For now I've put an exclude in my dnf.conf to prevent any nss upgrades, but 
that is also not a great solution, for obvious reasons.  Perhaps there will 
have to be a way for end-users to override the check for critical add-ons.  
Hopefully the add-on creators will eventually switch certs, but that could take 
a very long time.

Steve
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 22:38 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:04 PM Alexander Ploumistos
>  wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > > 
> > > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have to
> > > remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
> > 
> > I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
> > installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
> > add-ons are looking good.
> 
> So, I spoke too soon. I just got notified that one of my add-ons is
> misbehaving and it has been disabled. I'm still on the same session I
> was when I sent the previous message, nothing was installed or updated
> in the meantime. Is this bug time-based or something?

You didn't answer the question whether you had restarted Firefox since
installing the new nss.

Either way, probably Firefox is doing a periodic check of installed
add-ons and that fails whenever it happens now. The issue is they're
signed with SHA-1 certs, but nss is now not accepting SHA-1 per the
current system-wide policy.
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:04 PM Alexander Ploumistos
 wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> >
> > If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> > will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have to
> > remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
>
> I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
> installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
> add-ons are looking good.

So, I spoke too soon. I just got notified that one of my add-ons is
misbehaving and it has been disabled. I'm still on the same session I
was when I sent the previous message, nothing was installed or updated
in the meantime. Is this bug time-based or something?
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:04:24 PM WET Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> 
> I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
> installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
> add-ons are looking good. Could there be something else that's causing
> trouble? I have the following from the nss family:
> nss-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
> nss-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
> nss-softokn-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
> nss-softokn-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
> nss-softokn-freebl-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
> nss-softokn-freebl-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
> nss-sysinit-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
> nss-util-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
> nss-util-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64

Did you restart firefox since updating?
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
> If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have to
> remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).

I'm running firefox 83.0-13.fc33.x86_64 with nss 3.59.0-2.fc33
installed since it hit my local updates-testing mirror and all my
add-ons are looking good. Could there be something else that's causing
trouble? I have the following from the nss family:
nss-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
nss-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
nss-softokn-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
nss-softokn-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
nss-softokn-freebl-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
nss-softokn-freebl-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
nss-sysinit-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
nss-util-3.59.0-2.fc33.i686
nss-util-3.59.0-2.fc33.x86_64
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Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:17:21 PM WET Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> If you upgrade in f33 or rawhide to nss 3.59, all your firefox add-ons
> will stop working. Worse they will appear corrupted, so you will have to
> remove them and re-install them (after downgrading nss).
> 
> For now, downgrade nss or avoid updating to it until things can get
> sorted out.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908018
> 
> kevin

Thank you Kevin for the note.
I had updated by I downgraded thanks to you. :-)

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