Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-15 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 07/14/2013 06:39 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
 On Dom, 2013-07-14 at 14:39 +0100, Álvaro Castillo wrote:
 Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to help
 on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old software
 such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I don't know why
 was stopped maintain it).
 
 Can help me, please?
 
 you mean https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Kiosk and 
 http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/kiosk/
 
 ?
 
 Thank you so much!
 
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Not sure what cybers is?  Are you looking for kiosk type functionality.
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Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Álvaro Castillo
Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to help
on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old software
such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I don't know why
was stopped maintain it).

Can help me, please?

Thank you so much!

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Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Digimer

On 14/07/13 09:39, Álvaro Castillo wrote:

Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to
help on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old
software such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I
don't know why was stopped maintain it).

Can help me, please?

Thank you so much!

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Álvaro Castillo


Hi Álvaro,

  I think your question is not very clear. What does cybers Windows 
mean? I can't find any reference to a Fedora KIOS Spin (unless you 
mean kiosk spin).


  Promotion of any project, including Fedora, needs to be done 
carefully. If you push people away from tools they are happy with to 
something new, they may reject it out of hand. All then that is 
accomplished is a group of people who speak badly when they hear Fedora.


  Promoting a project means that you have to share the good and the 
bad. People have to have a realistic view of what the technology can do 
and where people might run into trouble. You need to help people 
understand what they gain from a new project and how difficult they 
should expect the learning curve to be. There is a good chance that the 
benefits do not (yet) outweigh the learning curve. In such a case, they 
are better to stay on the tools they know for now.


Hope this helps.

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Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado
Do not know the reason by it fedora kiosk spin edition was discontinued,
but the same functionality can  to achieve with xguest package. So you
don't need anything more for install Fedora as a kiosk
El jul 14, 2013 1:19 p.m., Digimer li...@alteeve.ca escribió:

 On 14/07/13 09:39, Álvaro Castillo wrote:

 Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to
 help on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old
 software such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I
 don't know why was stopped maintain it).

 Can help me, please?

 Thank you so much!

 --
 Álvaro Castillo


 Hi Álvaro,

   I think your question is not very clear. What does cybers Windows
 mean? I can't find any reference to a Fedora KIOS Spin (unless you mean
 kiosk spin).

   Promotion of any project, including Fedora, needs to be done carefully.
 If you push people away from tools they are happy with to something new,
 they may reject it out of hand. All then that is accomplished is a group of
 people who speak badly when they hear Fedora.

   Promoting a project means that you have to share the good and the bad.
 People have to have a realistic view of what the technology can do and
 where people might run into trouble. You need to help people understand
 what they gain from a new project and how difficult they should expect the
 learning curve to be. There is a good chance that the benefits do not (yet)
 outweigh the learning curve. In such a case, they are better to stay on the
 tools they know for now.

 Hope this helps.

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Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 14 juillet 2013 à 15:59 -0430, Eduardo Javier Echeverria
Alvarado a écrit :
 Do not know the reason by it fedora kiosk spin edition was
 discontinued, but the same functionality can  to achieve with xguest
 package. So you don't need anything more for install Fedora as a
 kiosk 

For a kiosk, being able to disconnect on idle is a nice feature, you do
not want someone who forgot to disconnect from gmail to have his account
compromised if someone use the kiosk after. Ideally, having xguest
disconnecting rather than locking the screensaver would be a way to
implement this.


And usually, in a cyber cafe, you also want to be able to limit the time
spent on the session by disconnecting after a time, and display that
time to the customers.

You also want to let people connect only if they paid :)


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Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Dom, 2013-07-14 at 14:39 +0100, Álvaro Castillo wrote: 
 Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to
 help on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old
 software such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I
 don't know why was stopped maintain it).
 
 Can help me, please?
 
you mean 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Kiosk
and 
http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/kiosk/

?

 Thank you so much!
 
 -- 
 Álvaro Castillo
 
 Fedora Project, EMEA ambassador
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Netsys
 Linux user #547784

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Re: Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.

2013-07-14 Thread Eduardo Mayorga Téllez

On 14/07/13 16:21, Álvaro Castillo net...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to help
on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old software
such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I don't know why
was stopped maintain it).

Can help me, please?

Thank you so much!


A few months ago, I tried to find a tool for the same purpose and I 
encountered the same that you did. So, I tried again.


Some tools that seem interesting:
* OpenASB, wrote on Gambas. There are some RPMs for Mandriva.
  http://www.openasb.org/
* OpenLanHouse, no RPMs but an active project.
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/openlanhouse/
* New Cyber Control, based on Uwimbox, it isn't in any source code 
repository (correct me if wrong). Found in a blog post[0], the author 
says you can ask me for sources.

  http://www.mediafire.com/?0rham2bbegydjb2

I hope these will be useful for you.

0. 
http://tecnoubuntu.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/new-cyber-control-controla-tu-cyber-cafe-con-ubuntu/

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