Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-30 Thread John Reiser
 How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide?

I have created a Fedora 13 x86_64 install DVD from today's rawhide
(Sat.Jan.30), installed it onto a vanilla clone box, and it runs for me.
The installation process clobbered the Master Boot Record even though
I asked it not to.  Using the install DVD as a Rescue disk aborted
with a Python error before presenting a shell.  I used a Fedora 11
install DVD as a Rescue disk to restore GRUB via /sbin/grub-install.
After that, the new partition with Fedora 13 rawhide boots and runs
firstboot.  AFter that, I connected to the 'net using Firefox 3.6.

If anybody really wants a copy of the DVD, and agrees to waive
my obligation under the GPL to distribute corresponding source,
then send me private email and I will send a pathname.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 10:51 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 Am I looking in the wrong place for rawhide install images these days? 
 They used to be in development/arch/os/images, which would appear when 
 that part of the build succeeded. 

As part of No Frozen Rawhide, we no longer make images for the rawhide
tree.  Rawhide is just a repo of packages.  When we branch for Alpha
we'll publish the release to be in it's own tree path with images
nightly.  Rawhide will move on to F14 stuff.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 01/29/2010 10:53 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 As part of No Frozen Rawhide, we no longer make images for the rawhide
 tree.  Rawhide is just a repo of packages.  When we branch for Alpha
 we'll publish the release to be in it's own tree path with images
 nightly.  Rawhide will move on to F14 stuff.

Ah, so it is not possible to install rawhide directly before the first 
Alpha?  (which is fine by me BTW - as that is when I generally first 
attempt it)


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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/29/2010 12:59 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 On 01/29/2010 10:53 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 As part of No Frozen Rawhide, we no longer make images for the rawhide
 tree.  Rawhide is just a repo of packages.  When we branch for Alpha
 we'll publish the release to be in it's own tree path with images
 nightly.  Rawhide will move on to F14 stuff.
 
 Ah, so it is not possible to install rawhide directly before the first 
 Alpha?  (which is fine by me BTW - as that is when I generally first 
 attempt it)

That's right, unless you want to compose your own images. :)

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 11:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:

 We have attempted to create test images at a few points before Alpha,
 when Anaconda team is ready for testing and leading up to the freeze so
 that we can identify blockers prior to the freeze.  If any of these
 happens to work we would tag these as Last Known Good and link to them
 from somewhere for people to get a closer to rawhide install than F12.

The unstated corollary, of course, is that in fact, none of them turned
out to work at all. :)

When we do do test image points, the results are reported to test-list,
so you can keep up with things there if you like.
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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread John Reiser
On 01/29/2010 02:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 11:03 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:

 We have attempted to create test images at a few points before Alpha,
 when Anaconda team is ready for testing and leading up to the freeze so
 that we can identify blockers prior to the freeze.  If any of these
 happens to work we would tag these as Last Known Good and link to them
 from somewhere for people to get a closer to rawhide install than F12.

 The unstated corollary, of course, is that in fact, none of them turned
 out to work at all. :)

 When we do do test image points, the results are reported to test-list,
 so you can keep up with things there if you like.

The last entry on
   https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2010-January/date.html
is for 09 January 2010, which is almost three weeks ago.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 15:13 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
 
 The last entry on
 
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2010-January/date.html
 is for 09 January 2010, which is almost three weeks ago. 

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-January/date.html

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread John Reiser
 How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide?  Any
 help needed there?

I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday (Jan.23-26).
Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an immediate
Trace/Breakpoint trap.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 10:24 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 On 01/27/2010 12:51 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
  Start   End Name
  Tue 26-Jan  Tue 26-Jan  Feature Submission Deadline
  Tue 26-Jan  Tue 26-Jan  Custom Spins Submission Deadline
  Thu 28-Jan  Thu 28-Jan  Create Installable Images for QA testing #2
 
 How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide?  Any 
 help needed there?
 

We are doing another image drop today for rawhide acceptance testing.  A
number of issues were found during the last test run, we may have usable
images this run that we can publish as last known good.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 09:40 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
  How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide?  Any
  help needed there?
 
 I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday (Jan.23-26).
 Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an immediate
 Trace/Breakpoint trap.

Thats an selinux issue that is fixed in current koji builds.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread Will Woods
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 12:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 09:40 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
   How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide?  Any
   help needed there?
  
  I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday (Jan.23-26).
  Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an immediate
  Trace/Breakpoint trap.
 
 Thats an selinux issue that is fixed in current koji builds.

Fixed in what package? New selinux-policy? New hal? Is there a bug
report or any other info?

-w

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 13:04 -0500, Will Woods wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 12:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 09:40 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
How far away do we appear to be from having an installable rawhide?  Any
help needed there?
   
   I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday 
   (Jan.23-26).
   Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an 
   immediate
   Trace/Breakpoint trap.
  
  Thats an selinux issue that is fixed in current koji builds.
 
 Fixed in what package? New selinux-policy? New hal? Is there a bug
 report or any other info?

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=153441

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks - install images

2010-01-28 Thread John Reiser
 I created install DVDs for myself last Saturday through Tuesday (Jan.23-26).
 Yesterday (Jan.27) the installed system broke because hald gets an immediate
 Trace/Breakpoint trap.

 Thats an selinux issue that is fixed in current koji builds.

 Fixed in what package? New selinux-policy? New hal? Is there a bug
 report or any other info?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559679
   Starting HAL demon: /bin/bash: line 1: Trace/breakpoint trap

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