EKOPath compiler in the next Fedora releases

2011-08-13 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi there,

Is there any plan to have the EKOPath compiler, from PathScale,
shipped as part of the future Fedora releases?

It doesn't necessarily mean having Fedora's packages built with it,
but merely packaging it as a first step.

Any thoughts?

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Re: EKOPath compiler in the next Fedora releases

2011-08-13 Thread Ilyes Gouta
 Well assuming no legal issues anyone can package it and submit it for review 
 ...

I do know that SLES and RH releases are being worked on. It should
also become available for Scientific Linux too at some point.

-Ilyes

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,

 Is there any plan to have the EKOPath compiler, from PathScale,
 shipped as part of the future Fedora releases?

 It doesn't necessarily mean having Fedora's packages built with it,
 but merely packaging it as a first step.

 Any thoughts?

 Well assuming no legal issues anyone can package it and submit it for review 
 ...
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Re: EKOPath compiler in the next Fedora releases

2011-08-13 Thread Ilyes Gouta
 You (or anyone else) is still free to just package it.

Sure. I'm trying to put together an initial spec file for Fedora.

-Ilyes

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well assuming no legal issues anyone can package it and submit it for 
 review ...

 I do know that SLES and RH releases are being worked on. It should
 also become available for Scientific Linux too at some point.

 So?

 You (or anyone else) is still free to just package it.
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Re: EKOPath compiler in the next Fedora releases

2011-08-13 Thread Ilyes Gouta
We should also target and package a clearly stated and defined
(features) version of the compiler, that has been tested and
validated.

-Ilyes

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Jussi Lehtola
jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:42:13 +0200
 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se wrote:

 Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  I'm trying to put together an initial spec file for Fedora.

 According to PathScale's license document their products are partly
 free and partly unfree. You can of course only package the free
 parts. How useful are they without the unfree parts?

 Björn Persson

 http://www.pathscale.com/ekopath4-open-source-announcement
 June 13th, 2011

 PathScale announced today that the EKOPath 4 Compiler Suite is now
 available as an open source project and free download for Linux,
 FreeBSD and Solaris. This release includes documentation and the
 complete development stack, including compiler, debugger, assembler,
 runtimes and standard libraries. EKOPath is the product of years of
 ongoing development, representing one of the industries highest
 performance Intel 64 and AMD C, C++ and Fortran compilers.


 The sources seem to be available at
  https://github.com/path64

 The compiler part is GPLv3, the debugger is CDDL. I tried to get the
 compiler packaged for a few hours, but ran into some problems in the
 build phase; the compiler segfaulted in the bootstrap phase. This was
 on Fedora 15. My spec file is attached, maybe someone can get it to
 build.
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Re: gimp

2011-08-23 Thread Ilyes Gouta
  Are there any plans to bring gimp 2.7.x - 2.8 into F16 ?

 Is there a specific reason to? The home page states that the whole
 2.7.x series should be considered unstable.

Alright, would then the 2.8.x series be in F16?

-Ilyes


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Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ilyes Gouta
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:


 But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most
 hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback
 mode will die. AIUI, fallback mode isn't meant to be a GNOME
 2-by-stealth for Shell refuseniks, it's purely an attempt to accommodate
 hardware which doesn't support Shell.

 That's pretty accurate, yes.

One nice outcome is that we could end up with an optimized reference
s/w renderer (and kernel/user land stack) for all platforms. Which is
cool! :)

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Building and exporting libgbm from the mesa package

2011-12-03 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Any reasons on why libgbm isn't being built and packaged in the
current mesa SPEC file? libgbm is a dependency for wayland-demos.

The --enable-gbm configure option depends on --enable-shared-glapi. Is
there any constraint?

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Re: WebKit(s) SIG

2010-08-06 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I'm interested too! Do we cover embedded platforms?

-Ilyes Gouta

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 18:11 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
 There is already WebKit page on Wiki [1] but I'd
 like to use this one as the entry point for users, not for more concrete
 technical discussion. So I created another page under SIGs category [2] (is
 there any policy for creation of SIGs? I wasn't very successful looking for 
 it
 but I'm quite tired already). Please sign up and edit tasks section according
 to what do you find to be important to start SIG.

 So, I've done some initial filling up the WebKitsInFedora [3] page. It
 will probably need more details on what svn snapshots the various
 versions use, adding reference to spot's chromium, what are the port
 specifics (libsoup vs. curl, ...),... Feel free to add this info :)

 [1]
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WebKit
 [2]
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/WebKit

 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/WebKit/WebKitsInFedora

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Changelog for the latest Fedora kernel release/updates

2010-08-07 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Where can I get such information? And is it possible to indicate where
I can locate Fedora's kernel git tree?

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Re: Changelog for the latest Fedora kernel release/updates

2010-08-07 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Pierre-Yves,

How you're doing? We met at Fosdem last time. I'm the Tunisian guy :)

OK, thanks. The git tree would be interesting too :)

-Ilyes Gouta

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Pierre-Yves pin...@pingoured.fr wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 10:09 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
 Where can I get such information? And is it possible to indicate where
 I can locate Fedora's kernel git tree?

 rpm -q --changelog should be a start.

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Re: Changelog for the latest Fedora kernel release/updates

2010-08-07 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 So fedpkg is only available in updates-testing. Any direct link?

 fedpkg is included in the package fedora-packager and it is already in
 the updates repo.

Great!

I guess I can directly clone from
git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/kernel.git, but I'll try to stick to
fedpkg for a while.

Thanks, everyone!

-Ilyes Gouta


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Re: Changelog for the latest Fedora kernel release/updates

2010-08-07 Thread Ilyes Gouta
I do need to be in a ACL and have a public key, isn't? :)

-Ilyes Gouta

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 So fedpkg is only available in updates-testing. Any direct link?

 fedpkg is included in the package fedora-packager and it is already in
 the updates repo.

 Great!

 I guess I can directly clone from
 git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/kernel.git, but I'll try to stick to
 fedpkg for a while.

 Thanks, everyone!

 -Ilyes Gouta


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Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-19 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Since JavaScript has a client-side execution model and since the all
the JS scripts are downloaded in plain text format (even if sometimes
obfuscated) along with the html code, then can't we assume that JS
code is available in source format and hence can't be classified as
closed source programs?

 What I suggest is just to use the same old JavaScript interpreter we have
 used before the JIT was introduced, which they undoubtedly keep working for

So much effort and expertise were spent to bring JS execution to
higher performance levels using VMs like V8, Tamarin, Squirrelfish,
and we're speaking here about a 6x to 8x speed up ratio compared to an
interpreted execution. JIT VMs are important for the end-user
experience, being in the context of the web or webapp and are a corner
stone for the next-gen Web where most applications are going to be
written in HTML5 and JavaScript and almost near-native execution
performance is going to be desired (think canvas and WebGL for
in-browser standard 2D and 3D rendering), and In my opinion Fedora
should pave the way for such kind of bleeding edge tech. Security
comes from an implementation which is specification compliant and
projects such as Firefox, WebKit (and any other browser which claims
to be standard compliant) that won't save any effort to get to that
point. Techniques such as sand-boxing would also help a lot mitigating
malware and other security issues and constitutes a complementary
design approach for an overall improved browser security model.

-Ilyes Gouta

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 21:31 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Adam Williamson wrote:
  Shipping a Firefox with no ability to use Javascript would be more or
  less equal to not shipping it, frankly. No-one would use the thing.

 What I suggest is just to use the same old JavaScript interpreter we have
 used before the JIT was introduced, which they undoubtedly keep working for
 those platforms which don't have JIT support available at all. That doesn't
 mean no JavaScript support, just a performance impact which is probably
 negligible on most sites

 Gmail makes very heavy use of JavaScript, so I bet the difference there
 is significant.  There may be Free Software web applications for which
 the same is true, I'm just not familiar with them.  I know you won't
 believe me; someone who knows how will have to perform a test.

 and much better security.

 You haven't convinced me of this.  Are vulnerabilities that let one
 inject enough code to exploit the JIT (particularly after the SELinux
 patch) really that easy to find?  But others have a better understanding
 of attacks in machine code than I do.

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Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-19 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Kevin,

 Free Software is not just about availability of source code. (That's exactly
 why the term Open Source is misleading!) It's no use having the source
 code if you aren't allowed to legally do anything with it.

I did't claim that JS code is open source. It's just that, we all
being able to pull JS code in plain text from a given server, from any
place on the world, doesn't really help classifying that code as a
closed source. Heck, we can even change on the fly a JS piece within
the browser via a JS console (think Greasemonkey for FF, Chome's JS
console). Obfuscation however corroborates the latter aspect.

 Security against buffer overflow exploits comes from a security-conscious
 design.

That's what I meant by a (correct) specification and a compliant implementation.

Converting untrusted code into native machine code and executing
 that is NOT a security-conscious design, it just begs to get exploited.

Still, it's can be correctly designed to really lower the risk (or
even eliminate it). That's there is *still* room to make it safer and
I don't see why it has to be completely disabled, banned and shutdown.
Techniques such as process isolation (when running JIT'ed code), I/O
sand-boxing, lowered/restricted privilege resource access, etc. *do*
help.

 The web is a medium for information, not
 code.
 If you really want a platform for remote services (which I'm not convinced I
 want, I'd rather control the software I'm running), you need to help design
 a real cloud platform from ground up.

It's changing. HTML5 and JS are going to be the front-ends for such
remote services provided by those cloud platforms. And these are the
standard way (vs. Adobe's Flash for example) to deliver a rich
experience to the end-user, right in his browser, and IMHO we should
support that.

-Ilyes Gouta

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Ilyes Gouta wrote:
 Since JavaScript has a client-side execution model and since the all
 the JS scripts are downloaded in plain text format (even if sometimes
 obfuscated) along with the html code, then can't we assume that JS
 code is available in source format and hence can't be classified as
 closed source programs?

 Free Software is not just about availability of source code. (That's exactly
 why the term Open Source is misleading!) It's no use having the source
 code if you aren't allowed to legally do anything with it.

 In addition:
 * Obfuscated code is not source code.
 * Those web apps also have lots of server-side code which is entirely
 secret.

 the next-gen Web where most applications are going to be written in HTML5
 and JavaScript and almost near-native execution performance is going to be
 desired

 I want none of that useless crap, thank you very much! Applications should
 be written as applications, delivered through our package repository, in a
 compiled language. Web sites should just be web sites and have as little
 code as possible (ideally none). The web is a medium for information, not
 code.

 If you really want a platform for remote services (which I'm not convinced I
 want, I'd rather control the software I'm running), you need to help design
 a real cloud platform from ground up. The way the web is being abused as a
 software platform is really appalling. It's really not designed for that,
 and we have tons of ugly workarounds such as session cookies, AJAX etc.
 JavaScript JITs are a part of those broken workarounds.

 Security comes from an implementation which is specification compliant

 Nonsense. Standards-compliance is completely orthogonal to security.

 Security against buffer overflow exploits comes from a security-conscious
 design. Converting untrusted code into native machine code and executing
 that is NOT a security-conscious design, it just begs to get exploited.

 Techniques such as sand-boxing would also help a lot mitigating malware
 and other security issues

 But an interpreter can enforce the sandboxing in a much more robust and
 failsafe way than a JIT.

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Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-19 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 Well, that's not what HTML, nor the underlying HTTP, was designed for. I
 don't see it as being an appropriate platform for software at all. (And I
 don't see plugins such as Flash as being the solution either. I believe
 this
 needs a completely different protocol, e.g. NX is something going in that
 direction.)


 As always Kevin I agree with you. These people don't understand basic OSI
 network layers; rather obvious textbook stuff.

The cool thing about JS and all what's happening today in the browser
world, is that everything is being done at the application layer
(level 4) of the OSI model, a fact which gives a rather unique
opportunity and freedom to software designers to specify applications
protocols easily and without huge constraints vs. what someone has to
deal with if you're at level 3, that's IP. However, like any protocols
meant to be adopted by the majority, app. protocols must also gain the
approbation and consensus of a majority and ideally the spec. must be
made accessible to everyone and implemented accordingly. This is what
drives tech. adoption and global deployment (think HTTP, SOAP, XML and
on the other hand hopefully WebM vs. H.264) and a basis and a
foundation for the next iteration. It happens that HTML (and its
siblings) and JS are part of this wild landscape and both are
*evolving*, and (IMHO) I would like to see Fedora leading (and
pursuing) the way with this.

-Ilyes Gouta


 And IMHO, as a Free Software distribution, we should do all we can to
 promote Free Software installed on the end user's machine where he/she has
 full control (freedom!) over the software rather than remote services, web
 or otherwise.

 If we tolerate any non free software then what's the point? Why not just run
 Windows or OSX?
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Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-19 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 Still, it's can be correctly designed to really lower the risk (or
 even eliminate it).

 I don't believe the risk can be eliminated entirely. There will always be
 unacceptable risk if you execute native code generated at runtime from an
 untrusted source.

How about a very well maintained open source piece of software, such
as Firefox, WebKit and WebKit2 (http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit2),
as a source of that generated native code at runtime? This would
immensely help verifying the emitter of such a code and take the
appropriate action, if needed.

-Ilyes Gouta

 It's changing. HTML5 and JS are going to be the front-ends for such
 remote services provided by those cloud platforms. And these are the
 standard way (vs. Adobe's Flash for example) to deliver a rich
 experience to the end-user, right in his browser, and IMHO we should
 support that.

 Well, that's not what HTML, nor the underlying HTTP, was designed for. I
 don't see it as being an appropriate platform for software at all. (And I
 don't see plugins such as Flash as being the solution either. I believe this
 needs a completely different protocol, e.g. NX is something going in that
 direction.)

 And IMHO, as a Free Software distribution, we should do all we can to
 promote Free Software installed on the end user's machine where he/she has
 full control (freedom!) over the software rather than remote services, web
 or otherwise.

        Kevin Kofler

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Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-21 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Matej,

 and WebKit2 (http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit2), as a

 well-maintained piece of pre-Alpha unreleased code.

I brought this one because of the architecture redesign, that tries to
address some security and performance points, not for the code quality
per se., which is still being worked on.

-Ilyes Gouta

 Please,

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Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-21 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

What about the WebKit SIG that Jaroslav Reznik wants to setup?

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/140497.html

-Ilyes Gouta

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Matej,

 and WebKit2 (http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit2), as a

 well-maintained piece of pre-Alpha unreleased code.

 I brought this one because of the architecture redesign, that tries to
 address some security and performance points, not for the code quality
 per se., which is still being worked on.

 -Ilyes Gouta

 Please,

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Re: Problem with F17 yum requesting old repodata?

2012-11-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Nov 24, 2012 8:20 AM, Dariusz J. Garbowski thufo...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

 On 24/11/12 05:37 AM, Chris Adams wrote:

 Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com said:


 It should also be normally trying multiple mirrors, not a bunch of
 times to the same one. :(


 [...]


 Actually, when I account for the different hashes and arches, the
 failing requests for updates/17/*/repodata/*-other.sqlite.bz2 files are
 accounting for almost 2/3 of all HTTP requests to my mirror.  I am not
 seeing any FTP requests; does yum try FTP these days?

 It doesn't appear to be causing any problem (no load impact, just bigger
 logs; the daily error_log isn't usually 250MB+) on my mirror, but I
 expect it is causing issues for clients.


 This is what I get for the last few days:


 # yum --skip-broken update
 Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
 adobe-linux-x86_64  |  951 B 00:00
 rpmfusion-free-updates  | 3.3 kB 00:00
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates   | 3.3 kB 00:00
 updates/17/x86_64/metalink  |  16 kB 00:00
 updates | 4.7 kB 00:00
 00c7410a78aa8dd0f4934ed4935377 FAILED HTTP Error 404 - Not Found :
http://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/fedora/updates/17/x86_64/repodata/00c7410a78aa8dd0f4934ed4935377b99e0339101cee369c1b1691f3025950ac-primary.sqlite.bz2

http://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/fedora/updates/17/x86_64/repodata/00c7410a78aa8dd0f4934ed4935377b99e0339101cee369c1b1691f3025950ac-primary.sqlite.bz2:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found :
http://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/fedora/updates/17/x86_64/repodata/00c7410a78aa8dd0f4934ed4935377b99e0339101cee369c1b1691f3025950ac-primary.sqlite.bz2
 Trying other mirror.
 updates/primary_db  | 6.9 MB 00:06
 updates/group_gz| 435 kB 00:00
 Resolving Dependencies
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package ctags.x86_64 0:5.8-7.fc17 will be updated
 --- Package ctags.x86_64 0:5.8-9.fc17 will be an update
 --- Package dbus.x86_64 1:1.4.10-6.fc17 will be updated
 --- Package dbus.x86_64 1:1.4.10-7.fc17 will be an update
 ...

I'm seeing those here too. This is global.

-Ilyes


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Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-15 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Would it be possible to pull in and package xorg-x11-drv-intel driver
updates more frequently in Fedora?

These are kinda critical for the stability of desktop/X.

-Ilyes

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From: Chris Wilson ch...@chris-wilson.co.uk
Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16
To: xorg-annou...@lists.freedesktop.org
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Rejoice! We have found a trick to make 830gm/845g stable at long last.
Ever since the switch to GEM and dynamic video memory, those early
second generation chipsets have been plagued by instability. The lack of
flushing cachelines from the CPU to GMCH was eventually solved by using
an undocmented bit, but 830/845 were still hanging under memory pressure.
These deaths were all due to garbage finding its way into the command
streamer, and they go away if we take a leaf out of the original driver
and never reuse those pages for anything else. So for the first time
ever, I have been able to complete running the test suite on an 845g,
even whilst thrashing the page and buffer caches!
-Chris

 * Run the SF stage as single-threaded on gen4 to workaround a few issues
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57410

 * Keep the scanout SURFACE_STATE separate to avoid overriding its
   memory access control on gen6/7 (i.e. writes to the scanout need to
   be kept out of the render cache)

 * Tune batch flushing after an operation to an exported surface under a
   compositor.

 * Make sure the source is on the CPU for inplace composition of trapezoids
   using the CPU
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56825

 * Immediately flush in the block hander after a split batch to reduce
   latency between the two halves of an operation.
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51718

 * Install a fallback config if we fail to install the desired config
   at VT switch (i.e. booting, after resume with 3 incompatible pipes on
   Ivybridge)

 * Pin batches to avoid CS incoherence on 830/845
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26345

Chris Wilson (53):
  sna: Tidy addition of fake GTF modes for panels
  sna/gen4: Avoid emitting URB_FENCE across a cache-line
  sna/gen4: Remove unused CC viewport
  sna/gen4: Special case solids through the general vertex emitter
  sna/gen4: Workaround render corruption with multiple SF threads
  sna/gen6+: Cache the scanout targets separately to avoid override PTE
caching
  sna: Assume that future hardware only gets more flexible
  sna: Don't disable CPU bo if supported on unknown hw
  Refactor the common probe methods for scrn construction
  sna/gen4+: Add common glyph-to-dst emitters
  Fix compilation of UMS probe following 13f47008ec
  Remove the default log message
  sna: Mark proxies as dirty on first relocation
  sna: Only flush at the low apeture watermark if idle
  sna: Only flush before adding fresh surfaces to the batch
  sna: Only inspect the target ring for busyness
  sna: Convert the ring from BLT/3D to the internal index for
kgem_ring_is_idle()
  sna: Flush upon change of target if GPU is idle
  sna: Replace remaining kgem_is_idle() with kgem_ring_is_idle()
  sna/gen4+: Refine test for preferring GPU spans
  sna: Move source to CPU prior to referencing for inplace trapezoids
  sna/sprite: Add a DBG to report whether the kernel supports sprites
  sna: Immediately flush a split batch
  sna: Compromise and only flush a split batch if writing to scanout
  sna: Avoid reusing the same 'busy' bit for two different meanings.
  sna: Try installing a fallback config on VT enter in case full
desiredMode fails
  sna/dri: Only special case 'divisor  msc-passed' for immediate
flipping
  sna/dri: Disable name exchanges for SwapBuffers
  sna/dri: Query current msc before use
  sna/dri: Fix handling of current_msc  target_msc
  sna/gen4: Use the single-threaded SF w/a for spans as well
  sna/gen3+: Use nearest for unscaled videos
  sna/gen2: STIPPLE requires an argument
  sna: Pin some batches to avoid CS incoherence on 830/845
  sna: Fix the error path in kgem_init_pinned_batches() to use the
right iter
  sna: Improve the initialisation failure path for pinned batches
  sna: Only flush the batch after an actual relocation
  sna: Fix typo for 830/845 gen
  sna: Fix up BLT overwrite detection to use target_handle
  sna/gen2: Align surface sizes to an even tile
  sna/gen2: Program solid mask using the DIFFUSE component
  sna/gen3: Remove incorrect optimisation of an opaque source for CA
  sna/gen2: Assertions
  sna/gen2: Initialise channel-is_affine for solid
  sna/gen2: Reorder reuse_source() to avoid NULL dereference for solids
  sna/gen3: Remove stray setting of vertex_start
  sna/gen3: Don't combine primitives if beginning a ca 2-pass
  

Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-15 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Adam,

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:

 On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  Hi,
 
 
  Would it be possible to pull in and package xorg-x11-drv-intel driver
  updates more frequently in Fedora?
 
 
  These are kinda critical for the stability of desktop/X.

 It sucks if you use an 830 or 845, sure, but that's not many people any
 more.


Nah, I have a GM45, and this particular update breaks the desktop and video
acceleration (overlay) on my machine.



 This update is an exception, but xorg-x11-drv package updates are
 usually fairly dull and not worth caring much about these days. I don't
 think you can use this update as a typical example of an xorg-x11-drv
 update. I'm sure ajax is considering whether this one is appropriate as
 an update.


Let's just move to the latest xf86-video-intel 2.20.16 update. I'll be
filing a bugzilla w/ the GPU lockup report.

-Ilyes



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Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-15 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Adam,

On Dec 15, 2012 9:48 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 20:54 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  Hi Adam,
 
  On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com
  wrote:
  On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
   Hi,
  
  
   Would it be possible to pull in and package
  xorg-x11-drv-intel driver
   updates more frequently in Fedora?
  
  
   These are kinda critical for the stability of desktop/X.
 
 
  It sucks if you use an 830 or 845, sure, but that's not many
  people any
  more.
 
 
  Nah, I have a GM45, and this particular update breaks the desktop and
  video acceleration (overlay) on my machine.

  Let's just move to the latest xf86-video-intel 2.20.16 update. I'll be
  filing a bugzilla w/ the GPU lockup report.

 I'm confused. If this update breaks your system, why would you want us
 to move to it?

No, the 2.20.14 which is in updates-testing isn't stable. From the
changelog, the 2.20.16 looks like it has fixes for the issues reported for
GM45.

-Ilyes

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-15 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Dec 16, 2012 2:30 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:

 On Dom, 2012-12-16 at 01:46 +0200, Ebru Arslan wrote:
  I am using Adlink cPCI 3970D board. and my system also include cPCI
  3455 driver compatible just Fedora 14 32 bit.

 why is not compatible with newer Fedoras ? is the kernel ?

There might be few drm fixes that are only available on recent kernels.

-Ilyes


  so I dont have chance to use other revision. how can i fix this case?
  cPCI 3970D include intel HD 3000 i915 graphic chipset. and i am
  developing opengl programming.
 

 
 

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Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Just testing the 2.20.16 release and everything looks good so far on GM45.

-Ilyes


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:

 On Dom, 2012-12-16 at 01:10 +0200, Ebru Arslan wrote:
  I am using 32 bit Fedora 14 . our platform is Adlink cPCI-3970D and
  this platform using Intel HD 3000 i915 graphic.
  I install Base video mode. after that i dont achieve install intel
  driver.
  i need installation steps of xf86-video-intel 2.20.16 . libdrm
  version,X-server version, etc. also create problem when i
  make ./configure
  but i already updated Fedora 14 .

 When I want update packages I do custom rpms, and recently use mock (*)
 to build the packages.

 #cd fedora-scm/
 #git clone git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/xorg-x11-drv-intel.git
 #cd xorg-x11-drv-intel/
 edit xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec
 change version to Version:   2.20.16

 fedpkg mockbuild --root fedora-18-x86_64 (or fedora-14-x86_64)

 fedpkg mockbuild --root fedora-18-i386 (or fedora-14-i386)

 and finally
 rpm -Uvh the build rpms

 if not have mock and fedpkg in F14 you could try

 rpmbuild -ba xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec ...

 (*) my notes to use mock
 http://www.serjux.com/alps/how_to_use_mock.txt

  On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Hi Adam,
 
  On Dec 15, 2012 9:48 PM, Adam Williamson
  awill...@redhat.com wrote:
  
   On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 20:54 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
Hi Adam,
   
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Adam Williamson
  awill...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, Ilyes Gouta
  wrote:
 Hi,


 Would it be possible to pull in and package
xorg-x11-drv-intel driver
 updates more frequently in Fedora?


 These are kinda critical for the stability of
  desktop/X.
   
   
It sucks if you use an 830 or 845, sure, but
  that's not many
people any
more.
   
   
Nah, I have a GM45, and this particular update breaks the
  desktop and
video acceleration (overlay) on my machine.
  
Let's just move to the latest xf86-video-intel 2.20.16
  update. I'll be
filing a bugzilla w/ the GPU lockup report.
  
   I'm confused. If this update breaks your system, why would
  you want us
   to move to it?
 
  No, the 2.20.14 which is in updates-testing isn't stable. From
  the changelog, the 2.20.16 looks like it has fixes for the
  issues reported for GM45.
 
  -Ilyes
 
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Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
and performance (blt and blending, cairo-demos) is way better than the
2.20.10 and 2.20.14 releases.

-Ilyes


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Just testing the 2.20.16 release and everything looks good so far on GM45.

 -Ilyes


 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:

 On Dom, 2012-12-16 at 01:10 +0200, Ebru Arslan wrote:
  I am using 32 bit Fedora 14 . our platform is Adlink cPCI-3970D and
  this platform using Intel HD 3000 i915 graphic.
  I install Base video mode. after that i dont achieve install intel
  driver.
  i need installation steps of xf86-video-intel 2.20.16 . libdrm
  version,X-server version, etc. also create problem when i
  make ./configure
  but i already updated Fedora 14 .

 When I want update packages I do custom rpms, and recently use mock (*)
 to build the packages.

 #cd fedora-scm/
 #git clone git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/xorg-x11-drv-intel.git
 #cd xorg-x11-drv-intel/
 edit xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec
 change version to Version:   2.20.16

 fedpkg mockbuild --root fedora-18-x86_64 (or fedora-14-x86_64)

 fedpkg mockbuild --root fedora-18-i386 (or fedora-14-i386)

 and finally
 rpm -Uvh the build rpms

 if not have mock and fedpkg in F14 you could try

 rpmbuild -ba xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec ...

 (*) my notes to use mock
 http://www.serjux.com/alps/how_to_use_mock.txt

  On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Hi Adam,
 
  On Dec 15, 2012 9:48 PM, Adam Williamson
  awill...@redhat.com wrote:
  
   On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 20:54 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
Hi Adam,
   
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Adam Williamson
  awill...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 12:23 +0100, Ilyes Gouta
  wrote:
 Hi,


 Would it be possible to pull in and package
xorg-x11-drv-intel driver
 updates more frequently in Fedora?


 These are kinda critical for the stability of
  desktop/X.
   
   
It sucks if you use an 830 or 845, sure, but
  that's not many
people any
more.
   
   
Nah, I have a GM45, and this particular update breaks the
  desktop and
video acceleration (overlay) on my machine.
  
Let's just move to the latest xf86-video-intel 2.20.16
  update. I'll be
filing a bugzilla w/ the GPU lockup report.
  
   I'm confused. If this update breaks your system, why would
  you want us
   to move to it?
 
  No, the 2.20.14 which is in updates-testing isn't stable. From
  the changelog, the 2.20.16 looks like it has fixes for the
  issues reported for GM45.
 
  -Ilyes
 
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Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-17 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Tom London seli...@gmail.com wrote:


 
  I concur: I locally build xorg-x11-drv-intel (including
  xf86-video-intel-2.20.16.tar.bz2), updated, and logged out/in.
 
  System does appear snappier, and I have not yet been able to recreate
  the hang/crash.
 

 Sigh.  Spoke too soon. Hang resurfaced. See:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877461


It still worth the update, IMHO. The 2.20.16 is just way better than the
2.20.10.

As the gdm crash is still there, despite the 2.20.16 being the latest
release, it might make sense to report the bug (with all the relevant
information) directly on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/

-Ilyes





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Re: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-17 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:



 Am 16.12.2012 21:39, schrieb Tom London:
  I concur: I locally build xorg-x11-drv-intel (including
  xf86-video-intel-2.20.16.tar.bz2), updated, and logged out/in.
 
  System does appear snappier, and I have not yet been able to recreate
  the hang/crash.

 can we please have a koji-build?


+1



 i notice slow gui / hangs after running KDE fpr many hours
 on machines with VMware-Workstations guests in background
 which is a little bit strange on IvyBrdige machines with
 16 GB RAM and RAID10


Sounds bleedin' 'n cuttin' egde! :)

Please file a bug ! and let's have the 2.20.16 meanwhile, please!

Cheers,
-Ilyes



 after logout / login all is snappy again and note that the
 in the background running VMs are not touched - so this
 must be graphics related at all


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-22 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hey,

Would it be possible to also push the xf86-video-intel-2.20.16 update to
Fedora 16 (technically it's not EOL yet)?

-Ilyes


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ebru Arslan earslan2...@gmail.com wrote:

 i did like that but it doesnt work.
 I updated Fedora 14 32 bit. then i installed driver from
 intelligraphic.org.
 know Fedora 14 is start but after that stuck.

 On 12/18/12, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
  On Ter, 2012-12-18 at 10:39 +0200, Ebru Arslan wrote:
  libdrm revision is 2.2.22 but i configure 2.4.40. but system still see
  previous one. so my all autogen.sh working result is fail.
 
  Do the package for libdrm and upgrade with rpm -Uvh
 
  #cd fedora-scm/
  #git clone git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/libdrm.git
  #cd libdrm
  edit xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec
  change version to
 
  #rpmbuild -ba libdrm.spec
 
  rpm -Uvh packages built .
 
 
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-23 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey,

 Would it be possible to also push the xf86-video-intel-2.20.16 update to
 Fedora 16 (technically it's not EOL yet)?


I just ran a xorg-x11-drv-intel scratch build for f16 w/ the new
xf86-video-intel-2.20.16 and the older
intel-gpu-tools-20110817 snapshots and AFAICT it looks good:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4815120

Is it possible to have the update for Fedora 16?

-Ilyes



 -Ilyes


 On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ebru Arslan earslan2...@gmail.comwrote:

 i did like that but it doesnt work.
 I updated Fedora 14 32 bit. then i installed driver from
 intelligraphic.org.
 know Fedora 14 is start but after that stuck.

 On 12/18/12, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
  On Ter, 2012-12-18 at 10:39 +0200, Ebru Arslan wrote:
  libdrm revision is 2.2.22 but i configure 2.4.40. but system still see
  previous one. so my all autogen.sh working result is fail.
 
  Do the package for libdrm and upgrade with rpm -Uvh
 
  #cd fedora-scm/
  #git clone git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/libdrm.git
  #cd libdrm
  edit xorg-x11-drv-intel.spec
  change version to
 
  #rpmbuild -ba libdrm.spec
 
  rpm -Uvh packages built .
 
 
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Installing glib2-devel.i686 alongside glib2-devel.x86_64 on Fedora?

2012-12-27 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I'm attempting to build a software requiring glib2-devel.i686, however when
attempting to yum install it, RPM generates a transaction error and states
that few files from glib2-devel.i686 conflict w/the x86_64 flavor.

The listed conflicting files seem related to gdb and systemtap (tools)
integration, i.e not directly related to the glib2 core library.

Is it at all possible to have both glib2-devel packages installed on the
same machine?

Regards,
-Ilyes

# yum install glib2-devel.i686
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package glib2-devel.i686 0:2.32.4-2.fc17 will be installed
-- Processing Dependency: libelf.so.1(ELFUTILS_1.5) for package:
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686
-- Processing Dependency: libelf.so.1(ELFUTILS_1.0) for package:
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686
-- Processing Dependency: libelf.so.1 for package:
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package elfutils-libelf.i686 0:0.154-2.fc17 will be installed
-- Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

=
 Package  Arch
 VersionRepository
   Size
=
Installing:
 glib2-devel  i686
 2.32.4-2.fc17  updates
 1.8 M
Installing for dependencies:
 elfutils-libelf  i686
 0.154-2.fc17   updates
 178 k

Transaction Summary
=
Install  1 Package (+1 Dependent package)

Total size: 2.0 M
Installed size: 21 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running Transaction Check
Running Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/bin/gdbus-codegen from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64
  file /usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/glib.pyc from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64
  file /usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/glib.pyo from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64
  file /usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/gobject.pyc from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64
  file /usr/share/glib-2.0/gdb/gobject.pyo from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64
  file /usr/share/systemtap/tapset/glib.stp from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64
  file /usr/share/systemtap/tapset/gobject.stp from install of
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.i686 conflicts with file from package
glib2-devel-2.32.4-2.fc17.x86_64

Error Summary
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Re: Installing glib2-devel.i686 alongside glib2-devel.x86_64 on Fedora?

2012-12-27 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Josh Stone jist...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 12/27/2012 05:30 AM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm attempting to build a software requiring glib2-devel.i686, however
  when attempting to yum install it, RPM generates a transaction error and
  states that few files from glib2-devel.i686 conflict w/the x86_64 flavor.
 
  The listed conflicting files seem related to gdb and systemtap (tools)
  integration, i.e not directly related to the glib2 core library.
 
  Is it at all possible to have both glib2-devel packages installed on the
  same machine?

 This is a known issue - see:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718404


Alright, thanks for the references.

-Ilyes




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Re: wayland and broadway support in gtk

2013-01-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Yes, please!

It would be about the right time to start enabling Wayland in distributions.

-Ilyes


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm tentatively planning to enable the Wayland and Broadway backends in
 GTK+ for f19.

 From a quick test build, this adds 3 library dependencies to gtk
 (libwayland-client, libwayland-cursor and libxkbcommon), and the size of
 libgdk grows from ~550k to ~700k. I think this is not a terrible burden,
 and this will make it much easier to experiment with Wayland and Broadway
 in Fedora.

 Comments ?


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Intel's SU4100 support on Fedora 12

2010-04-05 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I own a laptop which has an Intel SU4100
(http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43568), a dual core CPU and has
4 Gb of RAM. The Fedora 12 install DVD, picks up the PAE kernel for my
machine while I expected a SMP, PAE enabled kernel instead. Is it
possible to manually select such a kernel, during an install? Is it
possible to change the kernel configuration so that the next yum
update picks up the SMP enabled one?

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Re: Intel's SU4100 support on Fedora 12

2010-04-05 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 while), it is detected at runtime.

When installing the system, right? So it's done once? I believe grub
has a static configuration which indicates the location of the kernel
image.

 Also for this system I recommend using x86_64.

I don't remember the installer giving me the choice between running a
PAE 32bit kernel, or a x86_64 kernel on my machine.

Thanks,
-Ilyes Gouta

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:43 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I own a laptop which has an Intel SU4100
 (http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43568), a dual core CPU and has
 4 Gb of RAM. The Fedora 12 install DVD, picks up the PAE kernel for my
 machine while I expected a SMP, PAE enabled kernel instead. Is it
 possible to manually select such a kernel, during an install? Is it
 possible to change the kernel configuration so that the next yum
 update picks up the SMP enabled one?

 We don't ship separate UP/SMP kernel anymore (and have not for a
 while), it is detected at runtime.

 Also for this system I recommend using x86_64.

 P.S: This is off topic on this list btw. you should ask such question
 on the fedora-list rather than fedora-devel-list.
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sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/16/1330233/The-200-Line-Linux-Kernel-Patch-That-Does-Wonders
patch: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=128978361700898w=2

Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for Fedora 14 and
possibly posted as an update? :)

Would be wonderful!

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Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

According to phoronix, it would be queued for the 2.6.38 release.

 actually works.  If you really want it, Fedora provides all the tools to
 build your own custom kernel package.

It's already on my todo list :)

-Ilyes

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.eduwrote:

  IG == Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com writes:

 IG Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for
 IG Fedora 14 and possibly posted as an update? :)
 IG Would be wonderful!

 Would be more wonderful to wait until the upstream development has
 actually finished before cramming it into our packages and hoping it
 actually works.  If you really want it, Fedora provides all the tools to
 build your own custom kernel package.

  - J
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Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Thanks Kyle for making it available!

-Ilyes

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Kyle McMartin k...@mcmartin.ca wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 04:58:11PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for Fedora 14
 and
  possibly posted as an update? :)
 
  Would be wonderful!
 

 Try this,
 http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.35.8-59.xsched1/
 i686 coming whenever mock finishes.

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Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Leenart,

 Dhaval Giani pointed out to me that the same can be done from userspace
 simply by creating a cgroup for each session in the cpu hierarchy. Turns

So a session's (as you're referring) initiator to would be the terminal
emulator process that has a virtual tty and systemd detect those and setup a
proper cgroup so that we could differentiate when scheduling with other
processes?

-Ilyes

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote:

 On Tue, 16.11.10 16:58, Ilyes Gouta (ilyes.go...@gmail.com) wrote:

  Hi,
 
 
 http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/16/1330233/The-200-Line-Linux-Kernel-Patch-That-Does-Wonders
  patch: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=128978361700898w=2
 
  Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for Fedora 14
 and
  possibly posted as an update? :)

 This appears completely backwards to me. Attaching things like this to a
 TTY is just wrong, because normally we don't have a single TTY around on
 most graphical sessions.

 The kernel doesn't really have a notion of what a session is (only the
 audit subsystem kinda has), but if this grouping behaviour is supposed
 to be bound to a session, then attaching it to a TTY is a pretty shitty
 replacement.

 Dhaval Giani pointed out to me that the same can be done from userspace
 simply by creating a cgroup for each session in the cpu hierarchy. Turns
 out systemd actually does pretty much that, except in the named systemd
 hierarchy. It is trivial modification to create a group in both
 hierarchies.

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Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-16 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Kyle,

I'm getting these while running
kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.35.8-59.xsched1/

http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.35.8-59.xsched1/
[  234.580039] BUG: sleeping function called from invalid context at
mm/slub.c:1701
[  234.580048] in_atomic(): 0, irqs_disabled(): 1, pid: 4272, name:
gnome-terminal
[  234.580054] Pid: 4272, comm: gnome-terminal Not tainted
2.6.35.8-59.xsched1.fc14.x86_64 #1
[  234.580058] Call Trace:
[  234.580070]  [8103d03d] __might_sleep+0xed/0xef
[  234.580079]  [811096b8] kmem_cache_alloc_notrace+0x37/0xb2
[  234.580085]  [8104af89] sched_autogroup_create_attach+0x26/0xe1
[  234.580092]  [812a21e0] __proc_set_tty+0x10d/0x116
[  234.580098]  [812a39be] tty_ioctl+0x3fc/0x7c5
[  234.580103]  [811244d7] vfs_ioctl+0x32/0xa6
[  234.580108]  [81124a34] do_vfs_ioctl+0x46d/0x4a6
[  234.580112]  [81124ac3] sys_ioctl+0x56/0x79
[  234.580119]  [81009c72] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b

-Ilyes

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Kyle for making it available!

 -Ilyes


 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Kyle McMartin k...@mcmartin.ca wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 04:58:11PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for Fedora 14
 and
  possibly posted as an update? :)
 
  Would be wonderful!
 

 Try this,
 http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.35.8-59.xsched1/
 i686 coming whenever mock finishes.

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Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-17 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I've been reading http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/402 and actually Lennart
has put some solid thoughts and arguments there and IMHO it was *somehow*
pretty convincing that this should be done at user-space, in conjunction
with tools such as systemd, albeit introducing more complexity in form of
configuration infrastructure and whatnot.

Having this being done automatically by the kernel looks really easy and yet
promising. The downside of it is that it just feels like it's something
rigged towards a special class of applications (TTY based, build jobs) and
would act behind the scene without user-space knowing (explicitly) about
this classification, cgroups being spawned and subtasks associated to them.

Still, It would be nice to have this differentiation in place, being
implemented in either forms, since it brings a certain win for the desktop
user and developer. I think having a term open for churning code is part (or
a possible user-case) of the desktop experience :)

-Ilyes

2010/11/17 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 2010/11/16 Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
 http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/16/1330233/The-200-Line-Linux-Kernel-Patch-That-Does-Wonders
  patch: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=128978361700898w=2
  Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for Fedora 14
 and
  possibly posted as an update? :)

 Let me guess - Canonical already announced (or will do so within the
 next few hours) that they will use this patch in the new Ubuntu :)

  Would be wonderful!

 Surely this would be

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Re: Backported gtk3 for F14 available

2011-02-14 Thread Ilyes Gouta
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:56 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 19:30 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 [...]
 Interesting idea. Note that I've _just_ released the stable GTK+ 3.0.0.
 We could think about updating the gtk3 package in F14 to 3.0.0 if that
 is useful for people. We had essentially abandoned this and a few other
 packages in F14 after GNOME 3 was delayed to F15, and nothing in the
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PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Removing PackageKit In Fedora 14 was easy and painless since it causes up to
5 packages, all *really* related to PackageKit in the form of a yum-plugin
and few other things.

On Fedora 15, trying to yum remove PackageKit causes the system to attempt
removing up to 74 MB worth of software, including gdm, empathy, bluez and
gnome-shell  Which is pointless.

Is it *really* required to have PackageKit so deeply integrated and made an
essential package on the system. AFAIK, it's essentially a helper and a
front-end for yum, right?

Is it possible to recover Fedora 14's lightweight dependencies set, for
PackageKit?

Thanks,

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Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263-Ilyes

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:



 Am 24.04.2011 20:04, schrieb Ilyes Gouta:
  Hi,
 
  Removing PackageKit In Fedora 14 was easy and painless since it causes up
 to 5 packages, all *really* related to
  PackageKit in the form of a yum-plugin and few other things.
 
  On Fedora 15, trying to yum remove PackageKit causes the system to
 attempt removing up to 74 MB worth of
  software, including gdm, empathy, bluez and gnome-shell  Which is
 pointless.
 
  Is it *really* required to have PackageKit so deeply integrated and made
 an essential package on the system. AFAIK,
  it's essentially a helper and a front-end for yum, right?
 
  Is it possible to recover Fedora 14's lightweight dependencies set, for
 PackageKit?
 
  Thanks,
  -Ilyes

 generellay the dependecies are getting bigger with every release
 it should be possible to install a leightweigt system

 yes, hard-disk are getting cheaper but time!
 on the other hand running 20-30 Fedora VMs on a SAN-Storage
 disk space is not so cheap as at home and the overhead multiplies

 means: i like to remove everything that is not active used because
 distupgrades and normal updates are much bigger and especially on
 servers everything which is not installed is not vulnerable


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Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Rahul,

 It isn't a feature that is driven by Fedora and hence it won't be in the
 feature list.  It is just what happens when more upstream software take
 advantage of it over time..

Yes, NOW it's clear! Thanks Rahul!

-Ilyes

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/25/2011 12:36 AM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  Rahul,
 
   If you aren't actively using the GNOME or KDE frontend, just remove
  those and leave the
   framework as it is.
 
  That was tough :)
 
  AFAIK (and I might be wrong) deep PacakgeKit integration wasn't
  clearly mentioned in Fedora 15's feature set list.

 It isn't a feature that is driven by Fedora and hence it won't be in the
 feature list.  It is just what happens when more upstream software take
 advantage of it over time..

 
  I was just asking if it was possible to recover to a situation where
  the user would still have the choice, to use or not use PackageKit.
  That's all. Fedora 14 gave that choice.
 
  Alright, thanks for explaining!

 Just leave it installed.  You don't have to use it.  That is still a
 choice.

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Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-25 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Matej,

Christoph Wickert provided an analysis in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263

-Ilyes

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 Dne 25.4.2011 10:35, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a):
  You can [...] remove PackageKit-yum-plugin.

 Unfortunately not ... it takes away (among other things bluez,
 control-center, gammu, gdm, gnome-bluetooth, orca, and gnome-shell).

 Anybody any ideas how to get rid of it?

 Best,

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Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-26 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Matěj,

 Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam.


So this is Latin, what does it mean?

Btw, I'm from Tunisia (Tunis), the country of Carthage (historically) ;)

-Ilyes

On 26 avr. 2011, at 06:57, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 Dne 25.4.2011 21:26, Ilyes Gouta napsal(a):
 Christoph Wickert provided an analysis in
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263
 
 Which again lead to my broken gramophone song … we suck for not having 
 Suggests/Recommends. Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam.
 
 Matěj
 
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Re: Fedora 14 and Sandy Bridge graphics

2011-06-12 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Reindl,

You could also build it from sources. You should already have the
latest kernel and the X server updates, compiling the intel driver
will then produce a couple of user-space shared libraries that you can
place in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers. That's it.

-Ilyes

2011/6/12 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net:


 Am 12.06.2011 19:14, schrieb Lucas:
 On 06/12/2011 09:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

 Look, to be able to use Sandy Bridge you need - i915 driver, kernel, and 
 Xorg.

 You can add Fedora 15 repository and update only kernel, Xorg and intel 
 driver.
 All of this you can download from koji and install manually.

 i tried this before my first post
 this is simply not true because this forces glibc as requirement

 -- Führe Transaktionsprüfung aus
 --- Paket kernel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu werden
 --- Paket kernel-devel.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um installiert zu 
 werden
 --- Paket kernel-headers.x86_64 0:2.6.38.8-31.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert 
 zu werden
 --- Paket libdrm.x86_64 0:2.4.25-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert zu werden
 --- Paket linux-firmware.noarch 0:20110601-1.fc15 markiert, um aktualisiert 
 zu werden
 --- Paket xorg-x11-drv-intel.x86_64 0:2.14.0-6.fc15 markiert, um 
 aktualisiert zu werden
 -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: 
 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64
 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um 
 aktualisiert zu werden
 -- Verarbeite Abhängigkeiten: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit) für Paket: 
 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64
 --- Paket xorg-x11-server-common.x86_64 0:1.10.1-14.fc15 markiert, um 
 aktualisiert zu werden
 -- Abhängigkeitsauflösung beendet
 Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64 
 (/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64)
            Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
 Fehler: Package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64 
 (/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64)
            Requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.14)(64bit)
  Sie können versuchen --skip-broken zu benutzen, um das Problem zu umgehen.
  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
 [root@rh:/downloads]$ ls
 insgesamt 40M
 drwxr-xr-x 16 harry verwaltung 4,0K 2011-06-09 10:58 teletest
 -rw-r--r--  1 harry verwaltung  23M 2011-06-12 19:17 
 kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 harry verwaltung 6,8M 2011-06-12 19:17 
 kernel-devel-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 harry verwaltung 739K 2011-06-12 19:16 
 kernel-headers-2.6.38.8-31.fc15.x86_64.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  root        69K 2011-04-15 05:54 
 libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 harry verwaltung 8,3M 2011-06-12 19:17 
 linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  root       202K 2011-04-28 19:13 
 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15.x86_64.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  root        77K 2011-05-05 22:55 
 xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  root       1,4M 2011-05-05 22:52 
 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.10.1-14.fc15.x86_64.rpm


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About packaging Zotero standalone for Fedora

2012-04-29 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Zotero is a referencing tool that helps the user collecting,
maintaining and generating citations from research papers and so on.

Since version 3.0, Zotero has also been available as a standalone
executable (previously a Firefox plugin) based on the XULRunner
runtime; and I'm thinking about packaging it for Fedora.

The code base is licensed under AGPLv3, however the program's name
'Zotero' is a registered trademark
(http://www.zotero.org/support/terms/trademark)

I asked the developers
(http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/23104/packaging-zotero-for-gnulinux-distributions/#Item_0)
if it was OK to use that same name (even if the source package ends up
slightly changed - mostly the build system actually), but then here I
am asking the same question in order to get more feedback from the
Fedora packaging community:

What's the position of Fedora regarding using the same trademarked
program names for the packages?

This case would look similar to the Firefox package and I'm interested
in understanding how this is handled in Fedora.

Thanks,

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About packaging Zotero (trademarked name) standalone for Fedora (was: About packaging Zotero standalone for Fedora)

2012-04-30 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I'm reposting this e-mail, slightly edited and with a much more clear
subject, highlighting the issue.

Hi,

Zotero is a referencing tool that helps the user collecting,
maintaining and generating citations from research papers and so on.

Since version 3.0, Zotero has also been available as a standalone
executable (previously a Firefox plugin) based on the XULRunner
runtime; and I'm thinking about packaging it for Fedora.

The code base is licensed under AGPLv3, however the program's name
'Zotero' is a registered trademark
(http://www.zotero.org/support/terms/trademark)

I asked the developers
(http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/23104/packaging-zotero-for-gnulinux-distributions/#Item_0)
if it was OK to use that same name (even if the source package ends up
slightly changed - mostly the build system actually), but then here I
am asking the same question in order to get more feedback from the
Fedora packaging community:

What's the position of Fedora regarding using the same trademarked
program names (even if the source code is under an open source
license) ?

This case would look similar to the Firefox package and I'm interested
in understanding how this is handled in Fedora.

Thanks,

-Ilyes

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Re: About packaging Zotero (trademarked name) standalone for Fedora (was: About packaging Zotero standalone for Fedora)

2012-04-30 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Thanks Rex for the heads up :)

Yes, the goal is to just package the software, the source code won't
likely be changed - so it wouldn't constitute a derivative work (in
the sense of a forked source code).

@Toshio :

 Are there specific trademark licensing terms?  I think we'd want to know
 what those are.  And if they're too onerous (Personally, I'd rather not have
 more software that was as restrictive as firefox) we'd probably want to
 change the name/other trademarked assets.

http://www.zotero.org/support/terms/trademark

It's explained in that page that the trademark should be explicitly
and specifically licensed (in writing from George Mason University) if
used alongside any derivative work; which isn't the case in this
effort as the goal is to just package that same software. Zotero
developer Simon Kornblith confirmed that it would be OK (see
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/23104/packaging-zotero-for-gnulinux-distributions/#Item_0).

Alright, I'm then proceeding with the packaging.

-Ilyes

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 07:47:32AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Ilyes Gouta wrote:

  What's the position of Fedora regarding using the same trademarked
  program names (even if the source code is under an open source
  license) ?

 There's lots of software in fedora already with names that are trademarked,
 so that alone is no cause for concern.

 Are there specific trademark licensing terms?  I think we'd want to know
 what those are.  And if they're too onerous (Personally, I'd rather not have
 more software that was as restrictive as firefox) we'd probably want to
 change the name/other trademarked assets.

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Re: About packaging Zotero (trademarked name) standalone for Fedora (was: About packaging Zotero standalone for Fedora)

2012-04-30 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:51:52PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Alright, I'm then proceeding with the packaging.

 I've opened this ticket with the Fedora Packaging Committee.  I don't know
 that it belongs there but next time we meet we'll discuss it and send it to
 a different group if that's what we decide needs to happen:

  https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/170

Thanks Toshio for the extensive explanations! Yes, this is exactly the
kind of information I'm looking for.

 Don't let this stop you from starting to package this.  The worst case
 scenario would be that you'd need to replace the trademarked name in the
 software when we build it and name the package something different.  And
 that's the worst case... there's other possible outcomes as well.

Let's see how it goes with the FPC, that's important.

I'm thinking about Zoterino as a fallback name for the
software/package; if it happens that embedding a trademarked name
isn't possible/desirable.

-Ilyes

 -Toshio

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Re: About packaging Zotero (trademarked name) standalone for Fedora (was: About packaging Zotero standalone for Fedora)

2012-04-30 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:51:52PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Alright, I'm then proceeding with the packaging.

 I've opened this ticket with the Fedora Packaging Committee.  I don't know
 that it belongs there but next time we meet we'll discuss it and send it to
 a different group if that's what we decide needs to happen:

  https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/170

 Thanks Toshio for the extensive explanations! Yes, this is exactly the
 kind of information I'm looking for.

 Don't let this stop you from starting to package this.  The worst case
 scenario would be that you'd need to replace the trademarked name in the
 software when we build it and name the package something different.  And
 that's the worst case... there's other possible outcomes as well.

 Let's see how it goes with the FPC, that's important.

In fact, having a clear and formal answer (a yes or a no) from the FPC
and/or FESCo would be best.

-Ilyes

 I'm thinking about Zoterino as a fallback name for the
 software/package; if it happens that embedding a trademarked name
 isn't possible/desirable.

 -Ilyes

 -Toshio

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How to obtain the latest rawhide mesa package via Fedora's scm?

2012-04-30 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I read a recent Fedora rawhide report and found that mesa is now at
8.1 (master @ upstream), but then couldn't fetch the Fedora branch
using fedpkg, as I usually do.

$ fedpkg switch-branch f17(OK)
$ fedpkg switch-branch master(OK, still has the mesa-20120424 snapshot)
$ fedpkg switch-branch f18(NOK, doesn't exist yet)

mesa-8.1-0.2.fc18
-
* Thu Apr 26 2012 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 8.1-0.2
- Don't build vmware stuff on non-x86 (#815444)

Any pointers on how to get that update?

I intend to build it locally as I'm also testing Wayland master; which
now requires new symbols from gbm, such as
gbm_surface_lock_front_buffer() and gbm_bo_get_format().

Thanks,

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Re: How to obtain the latest rawhide mesa package via Fedora's scm?

2012-04-30 Thread Ilyes Gouta
The .spec file clearly states Version 8.1, sorry for the noise.

-Ilyes

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I read a recent Fedora rawhide report and found that mesa is now at
 8.1 (master @ upstream), but then couldn't fetch the Fedora branch
 using fedpkg, as I usually do.

 $ fedpkg switch-branch f17    (OK)
 $ fedpkg switch-branch master    (OK, still has the mesa-20120424 snapshot)
 $ fedpkg switch-branch f18    (NOK, doesn't exist yet)

 mesa-8.1-0.2.fc18
 -
 * Thu Apr 26 2012 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 8.1-0.2
 - Don't build vmware stuff on non-x86 (#815444)

 Any pointers on how to get that update?

 I intend to build it locally as I'm also testing Wayland master; which
 now requires new symbols from gbm, such as
 gbm_surface_lock_front_buffer() and gbm_bo_get_format().

 Thanks,

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TextMate 2 open sourced!

2012-08-09 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

http://blog.macromates.com/2012/textmate-2-at-github/

TextMate 2 is (for now) placed under GPL3.

Source code is available at github: https://github.com/textmate/textmate

How about packaging it for Fedora?

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Re: TextMate 2 open sourced!

2012-08-09 Thread Ilyes Gouta
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Onuralp SEZER
thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Well , When check   https://github.com/textmate/textmate#prerequisites

From the few prerequisites, it looks like it's doable.

I'm not sure about the Objective-C and Cocoa bits .. Maybe they can be ported?

-Ilyes

 in here. Just we need packages and It can be compile it. And If It's become
 open-source just MAC OSX. Yes then you right It won't be compile because of
 OS X's Cocoa


 On 10 August 2012 02:25, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Frameworks/Oak* code looks like it calls to few routines written
 in Objective-C (and probably to few OS X API) ..

 Is the code base build-able for Linux (assuming no big dependencies on
 OS X's Cocoa)?

 -Ilyes

 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Onuralp SEZER
 thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  Well I did chnages in the files but problem is still going and errors is
  still same.
 
 
  On 9 August 2012 23:27, Onuralp SEZER thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org
  wrote:
 
  Let me try then I will get backup and I'm going to try now.
 
 
  On 9 August 2012 23:26, Kellerman Rivero Suarez krsl...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I correct my previous email, the type __ int128 apparently not
  recognized
  by GCC, or so I understand, I think there will be that to try and
  replace it
  with __ int128_t
 
 
  2012/8/9 Kellerman Rivero Suarez krsl...@gmail.com
 
  Most problems seem to be associated with int_128. In gcc version most
  appropriate for that type of data is int_128_t. You'll have to rename
  the
  sources to see if it works
 
  2012/8/9 Onuralp SEZER thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org
 
  Well I downloaded from git-hub and try to compile but It said ;
 
  [root@fedora17 textmate]# ./configure
  which: invalid option -- 's'
  which: no xcrun in
 
  (/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/onuralp/chromiumos/depot_tools:/home/onuralp/.cabal/bin:/home/onuralp/.xmonad/bin:/home/onuralp/.local/bin:/home/onuralp/bin:/home/onuralp/chromiumos/depot_tools:/home/onuralp/.cabal/bin:/home/onuralp/.xmonad/bin:/root/.cabal/bin)
  clang is too old to build this project.
 
  Please see README.md for build instructions.
 
  So then I tried get new clang 3.2 version from source, and I got
  this
  error now ;
 
  [root@fedora17 build]# make
  make[1]: Entering directory `/home/onuralp/build/lib/Support'
  llvm[1]: Compiling APFloat.cpp for Debug+Asserts build
  In file included from /home/onuralp/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:104:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:18:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/ArrayRef.h:13:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/SmallVector.h:24:
  In file included from
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/iterator:63:
  In file included from
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ostream:39:
  In file included from
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ios:42:
  In file included from
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/bits/ios_base.h:40:
 
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:48:45:
  error:
use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
{ return __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }
  ^
 
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:52:38:
  error:
use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
{ __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }
   ^
  In file included from /home/onuralp/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:104:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:20:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/Support/MathExtras.h:17:
  In file included from
  /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/Support/SwapByteOrder.h:20:
 
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/limits:1404:27:
  error:
use of undeclared identifier '__int128'; did you mean
  '__int128_t'?
  struct numeric_limits__int128
^
 
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/limits:1478:36:
  error:
expected ''
  struct numeric_limitsunsigned __int128
 ^
 
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/limits:1478:5:
  error:
cannot combine with previous '(error)' declaration specifier
  struct numeric_limitsunsigned __int128
  ^
 
 
  /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0

Re: TextMate 2 open sourced!

2012-08-09 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Maybe this is when we should bring in GNUstep as the alternate Cocoa API
implementation for UNIX/Linux.

-Ilyes
On Aug 10, 2012 12:53 AM, Onuralp SEZER thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:

 From the few prerequisites, it looks like it's doable.

 +1 for that .

 I'm not sure about the Objective-C and Cocoa bits .. Maybe they can be
 ported?

 I never ported OS X apps so We need check source and Cocoa syntax for
 making sure.


 On 10 August 2012 02:45, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Onuralp SEZER
 thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  Well , When check   https://github.com/textmate/textmate#prerequisites

 From the few prerequisites, it looks like it's doable.

 I'm not sure about the Objective-C and Cocoa bits .. Maybe they can be
 ported?

 -Ilyes

  in here. Just we need packages and It can be compile it. And If It's
 become
  open-source just MAC OSX. Yes then you right It won't be compile
 because of
  OS X's Cocoa
 
 
  On 10 August 2012 02:25, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The Frameworks/Oak* code looks like it calls to few routines written
  in Objective-C (and probably to few OS X API) ..
 
  Is the code base build-able for Linux (assuming no big dependencies on
  OS X's Cocoa)?
 
  -Ilyes
 
  On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Onuralp SEZER
  thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
   Well I did chnages in the files but problem is still going and
 errors is
   still same.
  
  
   On 9 August 2012 23:27, Onuralp SEZER 
 thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org
   wrote:
  
   Let me try then I will get backup and I'm going to try now.
  
  
   On 9 August 2012 23:26, Kellerman Rivero Suarez krsl...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   I correct my previous email, the type __ int128 apparently not
   recognized
   by GCC, or so I understand, I think there will be that to try and
   replace it
   with __ int128_t
  
  
   2012/8/9 Kellerman Rivero Suarez krsl...@gmail.com
  
   Most problems seem to be associated with int_128. In gcc version
 most
   appropriate for that type of data is int_128_t. You'll have to
 rename
   the
   sources to see if it works
  
   2012/8/9 Onuralp SEZER thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org
  
   Well I downloaded from git-hub and try to compile but It said ;
  
   [root@fedora17 textmate]# ./configure
   which: invalid option -- 's'
   which: no xcrun in
  
  
 (/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/onuralp/chromiumos/depot_tools:/home/onuralp/.cabal/bin:/home/onuralp/.xmonad/bin:/home/onuralp/.local/bin:/home/onuralp/bin:/home/onuralp/chromiumos/depot_tools:/home/onuralp/.cabal/bin:/home/onuralp/.xmonad/bin:/root/.cabal/bin)
   clang is too old to build this project.
  
   Please see README.md for build instructions.
  
   So then I tried get new clang 3.2 version from source, and I got
   this
   error now ;
  
   [root@fedora17 build]# make
   make[1]: Entering directory `/home/onuralp/build/lib/Support'
   llvm[1]: Compiling APFloat.cpp for Debug+Asserts build
   In file included from
 /home/onuralp/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:104:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:18:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/ArrayRef.h:13:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/SmallVector.h:24:
   In file included from
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/iterator:63:
   In file included from
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ostream:39:
   In file included from
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ios:42:
   In file included from
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/bits/ios_base.h:40:
  
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:48:45:
   error:
 use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
 { return __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }
   ^
  
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:52:38:
   error:
 use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
 { __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }
^
   In file included from
 /home/onuralp/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:104:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:20:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/Support/MathExtras.h:17:
   In file included from
   /home/onuralp/llvm/include/llvm/Support/SwapByteOrder.h:20:
  
  
  
 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/limits:1404:27:
   error

Re: TextMate 2 open sourced!

2012-08-10 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 In other words,should we have to push this package into fedora?(if build
 successfully?)

Building TM2's code base for Linux is the most difficult part of the
effort; as it (may) involve interacting with many bleeding-edge s/w
components such as clang, Objective-C, and probably GNUstep for the
Oak framework thing. Once there, packaging it for Fedora is easy, as
dependencies would have been sorted out already.

It's nice to see clang and llvm being required by another package
besides mesa-dri :)

-Ilyes


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Re: TextMate 2 open sourced!

2012-08-10 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 While gedit is nice, it is a GTK+ app. Do we actually have a decent
 selection of open source text editors for the GNUStep environment? As
 far as I know, we don't. TextMate would target a different group of
 people, those who use the NeXTSTEP/GNUStep environment.


 Ehm, ... does anybody really care about GNUStep anymore? I mean really ...
 it has absolutely awesome design (persistent objects are cool) but does
 anybody care? In whole bruhaha around Gnome 3, I have never heard anybody to
 say I hate Gnome 3, so I am switching to GNUStep.

Well, IMHO besides the less is more philosophy (which is good too),
the major risk is clang.

Is Fedora ready to host clang compiled and linked binaries (and libraries)?

Do we also need GNUstep compiled via clang for TextMate to build? Are
clang and GCC binaries inter-operable (when linked against the same
run-time libraries)?

-Ilyes

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Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-27 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Gerry,

Try contacting the main dev. mailing-list of DirectFB. I'm sure you'll get
an answer there.

Btw, DirectFB-1.5.3 is rather old, DirectFB-1.6.1 is rather the latest
stable release.

-Ilyes
On Aug 28, 2012 1:04 AM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote:

 On 08/24/2012 06:56 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
  I have had no success whatsoever getting DirectFB to run under F17 as a
 regular user on my HP laptop.
 
  # yum list DirectFB
 
  Installed Packages
  directfb.x86_64  1.5.3-7.fc17
  @updates
 
 
  I have discussed the problems on the DirectFB mailing list and they
 direct me back to the distro.
 
  When trying to run any DirectFB command as a regular user I get
 permission errors like this:
 
  $ dfbinfo
 
 ~~| DirectFB 1.5.3 |~~
  (c) 2001-2010  The world wide DirectFB Open Source Community
  (c) 2000-2004  Convergence (integrated media) GmbH

 
  (*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2012-05-19 15:35)
  (*) Direct/Memcpy: Using Generic 64bit memcpy()
  (!) DirectFB/core/vt: Error opening `/dev/tty1'!
  -- Permission denied
  (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize 'system_core' core!
  -- A general initialization error occured
  (#) DirectFBError [DirectFBCreate() failed]: A general initialization
 error occured
 
 
  Even when I go and change the permissions on /dev/ttyX and /dev/fb/0 and
 then put those into udev rules then I still get
  an error about MEDIUMRAW mode.
 
 
  I am able to run some DirectFB commands as root but that is no good for
 creating app for general user.
 
 
  Can anyone, developer, packager, shed some light on why DirectFB will
 not run on F17 as a regular user?
 
  Thank you.
 
  .
 

 So after fixing permissions on tty and fb  I can get to here:

 $ dfbinfo

~~| DirectFB 1.5.3 |~~
 (c) 2001-2010  The world wide DirectFB Open Source Community
 (c) 2000-2004  Convergence (integrated media) GmbH
   

 (*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2011-08-23 22:08)
 (!) DirectFB/fbdev/vt: K_MEDIUMRAW failed!
 -- Operation not permitted
 (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize 'system_core' core!
 -- A general initialization error occured
 (#) DirectFBError [DirectFBCreate() failed]: A general initialization
 error occured
 $


 What needs to be done to fix this error?   Google is absolutely no help.






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Re: F17: DirectFB

2012-08-29 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Gerry,

You could also use DirectFB's X11 system module, so that you can run
DirectFB-based applications in a usual X11 window. You can tell
DirectFB so by using the DFBARGS environment variable:

$ export DFBARGS=system=x11,mode=1280x800
(probably also w/ disable-module=gl)
$./your_directfb_application

Nicolas Chauvet is now upstreaming changes for Fedora to directfb-dev ML.

-Ilyes

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote:
 On 08/29/2012 02:33 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
 On 08/29/2012 09:25 AM, Gerry Reno wrote:

 DirectFB says that there are Fedora packaging errors which are causing the 
 undefined symbol on XUnlockDisplay and
 inability to run as normal user.
 Upstream is wrong, btw.

 The dlopen problem is caused by the fact that they don't pass the
 $(X11VDPAU_LIBS) to the LDFLAGS for linking libdirectfb_vdpau.la.

 The core issue behind why dfbinfo doesn't run as a normal user is due
 to the fact that the Linux kernel requires CAP_SYS_TTY_CONFIG to do any
 TTY ioctl() calls. UID 0 (root) has that, but normal users do not. It is
 possible to give a binary that capability using the setcap command.

 The missing udev rules also factor into this, I suspect.

 Last but not least, I believe a normal user needs to be in at least the
 tty and video groups. (and they need to be active, as reported by
 `groups`). Since there is no real way to handle this in the package, it
 just needs to be done by any user who wants to use dfbinfo:

usermod -a -G tty video USERNAME

 I made an updated package (1.6.1) that has these fixes applied and sets
 the CAP_SYS_TTY_CONFIG capability to the dfbinfo binary. (Other DirectFB
 binaries probably need the same magic, but as I am not a DirectFB user,
 I can't really say which ones.)

 Please note that I could only get the dfbinfo results as an unprivileged
 user from the console (not from within X), and those results are not
 identical to what I get when I run it as root. When I tried to run it
 from X, my X session crashed and the kernel panicked. Good times. :)

 Anyways, Gerry, please test and let me know if these packages work for
 you, and once I hear back, I'll push out updates.

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4435408

 ~tom

 ==
 Fedora Project


 Thanks Tom.

 I'll try to check your updates later today and report back.


 Gerry



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use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL' when building llvm-3.1 on Fedora 17

2012-09-01 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I'm getting the following errors, when attempting to build llvm-3.1
(from f18) on my Fedora 17 setup.

In file included from APInt.cpp:16:
In file included from
/home/ilyes/fedora-scm/llvm/llvm-3.1.src/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:18:
In file included from
/home/ilyes/fedora-scm/llvm/llvm-3.1.src/include/llvm/ADT/ArrayRef.h:13:
In file included from
/home/ilyes/fedora-scm/llvm/llvm-3.1.src/include/llvm/ADT/SmallVector.h:23:
In file included from
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/iterator:63:
In file included from
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ostream:39:
In file included from
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ios:42:
In file included from
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/bits/ios_base.h:40:
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:48:45:
error: use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
  { return __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }
^
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:52:38:
error: use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
  { __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }

I've got also a bunch of these:

/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/limits:1404:27:
error: use of undeclared identifier '__int128'; did you mean
'__int128_t'?

and this is with gcc version 4.7.0 20120507 (Red Hat 4.7.0-5) (GCC).

Any ideas on how to fix this? Do I need an updated GCC?

Regards,

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Re: use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL' when building llvm-3.1 on Fedora 17

2012-09-02 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I've locally built and installed Fedora 18's GCC 4.7.1 packages (gcc
version 4.7.1 20120720 (Red Hat 4.7.1-5) (GCC)) on my F17 box and just
restarted building (F18's) llvm-3.1/clang-3.1 packages. It looks good
so far.

-Ilyes

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:30 AM, TASAKA Mamoru mtas...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Ilyes Gouta wrote, at 09/01/2012 11:06 PM +9:00:

 Hi,

 I'm getting the following errors, when attempting to build llvm-3.1
 (from f18) on my Fedora 17 setup.

 In file included from

 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/iterator:63:
 In file included from

 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ostream:39:
 In file included from

 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ios:42:
 In file included from

 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/bits/ios_base.h:40:

 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:48:45:
 error: use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
{ return __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }
  ^

 /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.7.0/../../../../include/c++/4.7.0/ext/atomicity.h:52:38:
 error: use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL'
{ __atomic_fetch_add(__mem, __val, __ATOMIC_ACQ_REL); }


 This issue is currently tracked on:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845713

 Regards,
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Re: use of undeclared identifier '__ATOMIC_ACQ_REL' when building llvm-3.1 on Fedora 17

2012-09-02 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Lars,

Indeed! I removed an older clang-3.0 package before rebuilding the f18 set.

Cool. The builds should now complete then.

-Ilyes

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Lars Seipel lars.sei...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday 01 September 2012 15:06:40 Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 and this is with gcc version 4.7.0 20120507 (Red Hat 4.7.0-5) (GCC).

 This doesn't look like you're building with GCC. Do you have an older version
 of clang somewhere in your path? IIRC llvm's configure script prefers to 
 choose
 clang when it's there. Clang then chokes on the libstdc++ headers.

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Re: Building and exporting libgbm from the mesa package

2012-02-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

This is to reboot the discussion about: why not also building the
libgbm part of Mesa in Fedora?

Having it would make it easier to test Wayland and friends. Any
reasons on why not having it so far?

-Ilyes

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Any reasons on why libgbm isn't being built and packaged in the
 current mesa SPEC file? libgbm is a dependency for wayland-demos.

 The --enable-gbm configure option depends on --enable-shared-glapi. Is
 there any constraint?

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Re: Building and exporting libgbm from the mesa package

2012-02-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Cool! That's what I want to be part of, too :)

Could these be installed on a Fedora 16?

Thanks,

-Ilyes

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 21:28 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 This is to reboot the discussion about: why not also building the
 libgbm part of Mesa in Fedora?

 Having it would make it easier to test Wayland and friends. Any
 reasons on why not having it so far?

 Thorsten Leemhuis has very graciously stepped up to bring F17's Mesa and
 Wayland packaging up to date:

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-2244/mesa-8.0.1-2.fc17,wayland-0.85.0-1.fc17

 It was great, he showed up with patches and I said yeah those look
 fine and then he committed them.  I wish I got more drive-by
 contributions like that.

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Packaging Google Font Directory for Fedora 14

2010-05-22 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Google released a set of high quality fonts as open source and I'm
wondering of those can be packaged and included for/in the next Fedora
14. Would that be possible?

http://code.google.com/p/googlefontdirectory/

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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-22 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hey Lennart,

So how fast is a systemd boot (with all the changes to the scripts)
compared to the current F13 setup? How about a ratio?

-Ilyes Gouta

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/23/2010 04:04 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:

 ATM everything looks rosy. I just finished porting over all F13
 installed-by-default daemons to socket activation, and a few more (and
 the patches are good enough to be upstreamable). I'll publish the
 numbers of a 100% socket-activated boot soon. Codewise only very little
 is missing to be fully ready for Fedora (in fact selinux support is the
 only item really mattering on my todo list).


 It would great to have a repo or something to try it out quickly and
 provide some feedback.

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Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-05-25 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

SSE and friends are arch. specific and according to the feature list
the upstream is displaying, I don't think it would offer any other
benefits for the other archs.

There is one strong point that libjpeg-{6b, 8ab} inherited since it's
been there for a lof time: a *defacto* standard for JPEG
compression/decompression that has been heavily depolyed, used and
tested code for various application/, thoughtout the time, for more
than a decade! I think that's important and would enable it to keep
its place in the destribtion.

libjpeg-6b is at production level code, and it actually offers a
couple of ways to accelerate JPEG decoding by turning on the IDCT
level decimation (basically for free resize) and enabling YUV raw
decodes.

How about this: since libjpeg is picking momentum and there are
actually people updating the code base, why not push for a
libjpeg-turbo merge into the original ijg's code and get Fedora to
rebase on that unique source instead? That way ijg can test for any
regressions using their conformance tests.

Regards,
-Ilyes Gouta

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Adam Goode a...@spicenitz.org wrote:
 On 05/25/2010 10:09 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 Why couldn't we just replace libjpeg with the libjpeg-turbo upstream?
 (For the primary architectures anyway).


 I think this is a great idea, libjpeg is the bottleneck for a lot of my
 code.

 One issue: are there C fallbacks for all the arch-specific code? It
 would be great if secondary architectures could just use libjpeg-turbo
 as well.


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Re: Font rendering in F13

2010-05-25 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 That's always been how it's looked to me as well, FWIW. Given that we
 default to using free world fonts and can't ship Microsoft's fonts it
 would seem sensible to default to the autohinter rather than the BCI, in
 my opinion. I definitely prefer the autohinter's interpretation of the
 fonts I usually use (Deja Vu / Vera).

I think it all boils down to this question:

Do we want Fedora to provide full support for the TrueType standard
(actually file format is much more appropriate) or not?

 I'd say the principle should be that we should use whichever
 non-encumbered method gives the closest rendering to that intended by
 the font designer of our default font set for any particular release.

From what I know, the FreeType API doesn't allow to switch from one
method to another on a per-font basis. But to move on and completely
disable such a feature (bci) is a hefty price to pay. Would be nice if
we could build a kind of a whitelist where bci would be used against
this and that font and disabled otherwise.

-Ilyes Gouta

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 21:51 +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Gianluca Sforna gia...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it 
  wrote:
 
  I'm well aware that many people have different tastes about font
  readability and that I'm probably out of the majority (who
  wants like on Windows rendering). This awareness was actually
  the reason of my post: to have guys remember that not everyone
  welcomes the bci.
 
 
  Actually, one of the first questions I get from users switching from
  Ubuntu is why our fonts look worse than theirs.
 
  As of today, I haven't a good answer, if anyone knows better I'd
  really love to hear where we differ and if/how we plan to close the
  gap.

 We neither do have the BCI nor the subpixel hinter enabled.

 The patents for the former expired but apparently some fonts look
 worse with it so we decided to disable it.
 (I have been running with it enabled for years and for me stuff does
 look _way_ better with the bci ... but well this is a subjective
 thing).

 AIUI, Microsoft fonts - Arial and the rest - are designed with BCI in
 mind and look better that way. Free world fonts - Deja Vu and so on -
 were designed with the autohinter in mind, and tend to look better that
 way.

 That's always been how it's looked to me as well, FWIW. Given that we
 default to using free world fonts and can't ship Microsoft's fonts it
 would seem sensible to default to the autohinter rather than the BCI, in
 my opinion. I definitely prefer the autohinter's interpretation of the
 fonts I usually use (Deja Vu / Vera).

 I'd say the principle should be that we should use whichever
 non-encumbered method gives the closest rendering to that intended by
 the font designer of our default font set for any particular release.
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Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-05-26 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

A merge is the most appropriate here. After all libjpeg-turbo just
offers a set of x86 specific SSE/MMX routines such as IDCT (maybe
huffman, but I didn't check that) that would be easily plugged into
ijg, but doesn't change the foundations (architecture and exposed
public API) of libjpeg.

Also, one has to think about the applications that depend on it: what
if they break and/or require changes.

-Ilyes Gouta

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Ilyes Gouta wrote:
 There is one strong point that libjpeg-{6b, 8ab} inherited since it's
 been there for a lof time: a *defacto* standard for JPEG
 compression/decompression that has been heavily depolyed, used and
 tested code for various application/, thoughtout the time, for more
 than a decade! I think that's important and would enable it to keep
 its place in the destribtion.

 libjpeg-6b is at production level code, and it actually offers a
 couple of ways to accelerate JPEG decoding by turning on the IDCT
 level decimation (basically for free resize) and enabling YUV raw
 decodes.

 This kind of arguments doesn't really make sense for Fedora. We should ship
 the best implementation, not the most tried and true one. Fedora is about
 advancing Free Software, not being conservative. If you see any concrete
 issues with libjpeg-turbo, do point them out. If not, we shouldn't refuse it
 just because it's not the same old stuff.

 Something which is IMHO more important to consider is whether libjpeg-turbo
 is missing any improvements which are in the current IJG codebase, e.g. new
 APIs apps may start relying on at some point. (In that case, we need to
 either decide which to ship or ship both.)

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Re: Font rendering in F13

2010-05-26 Thread Ilyes Gouta
+1

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Martin Sourada
martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 10:29 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
 On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 09:51:53PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
  The patents for the former expired but apparently some fonts look
  worse with it so we decided to disable it.
  (I have been running with it enabled for years and for me stuff does
  look _way_ better with the bci ... but well this is a subjective
  thing).

 Take a look at the two screenshots I attached to bug
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547532.

 I think that, while it might be subjective, it's pretty clear that the
 without bytecode version is much, much better for Inconsolata -- which I
 spend my day using.
 Depends on the criteria you use. The with bytecode version has better
 kerning, better shapes, better flow, but is blurry (yeah, without
 subpixel hintinting the fonts just are blurry and that's the main cause
 why people say they look ugly). The with bytecode on the other hand is
 perfectly crisp, but the shapes are worse, the flow is not so smooth,
 some letters look a little deformed... With that said I use subpixel
 hinting and I usually personally prefer the autohinter (but this one
 depends on the font, some look better to me autohinted, some using
 BCI...).

 But generally, if font looks bad hinted when using BCI, it's most likely
 a bug in font, but when BCI is not present we need to fall back to
 autohinter, not just turn off the hinting.

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Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-05-31 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Adam,

 it also contains bunch of
 pure algorithmic enhancements so even if target platform doesn't
 support MMX/SSE libjpeg-turbo is around 25% faster than original libjpeg.

Can you please give some details on this point?

-Ilyes Gouta

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Adam Tkac at...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:47:13PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:40:15PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
  How about this: since libjpeg is picking momentum and there are
  actually people updating the code base, why not push for a
  libjpeg-turbo merge into the original ijg's code and get Fedora to
  rebase on that unique source instead?

 The problem, as I said before, is that the libjpeg upstream is not
 being developed in an open manner.

 This is pretty big issue.

 I've emailed Adam Tkac to bring his attention to this thread (he's
 involved with libjpeg-turbo) and hopefully he'll bring some more up to
 date information about this matter.

 Sorry for late response, this mail got lost in my queue.

 libjpeg-turbo is a fork of the original libjpeg-6b release created
 and maintained by VirtualGL and TigerVNC developers. Main focus is on
 performance and API+ABI compatibility with libjpeg. Although
 libjpeg-turbo contains MMX/SSE acceleration it also contains bunch of
 pure algorithmic enhancements so even if target platform doesn't
 support MMX/SSE libjpeg-turbo is around 25% faster than original libjpeg.
 When SSE is used then libjpeg and libjpeg-turbo performance is simply
 incomparable. And there are still number of areas for optimizations,
 for example on we are currently using only half of SSE registers on
 64bit platforms.

 About the merge of this code with the original ijg's code. Yes, I must
 admit it is possible but personally I don't like it much. In my
 opinion libjpeg-turbo is far more ahead than libjpeg so it's easier
 for us to incorporate libjpeg changes to libjpeg-turbo. And I'm not
 able to find CVS/SVN/git repository of the libjpeg code.

 In my opinion if will be great benefit for Fedora to simply replace
 libjpeg by libjpeg-turbo. It works fine on secondary architectures
 and if processor doesn't support MMX/SSE then it falls back to
 non-ASM code (which is still faster than libjpeg code, as I wrote
 above).

 Btw this library is used since Fedora 11 in tigervnc package for JPEG
 compression/decompression and it works without any problem on all
 supported platforms (x86, x86_64, ppc, ppc64) and also on s390(x).

 So, if I summarize pros and cons for libjpeg-turbo:

 +: _really_ faster than libjpeg
   more portable
   more open than IJG code
   API/ABI compatible with libjpeg (AFAIK)
   works on all platforms (not only on SSE capable platforms)

 -: not developed by IJG :)

 I'm going to create a Fedora feature for this task.

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Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-06-01 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

I'm still interested in seeing a linjpeg-turbo merger with ijg's own
code base. I'd say that the most performance boost brought in by
libjpeg-turbo is due to the specialized SIMD routines, which
theoretically can be easily merged. libjpeg-turbo has also some
weaknesses such as (as provided from the project's homepage):

1. Worse chroma upsampling quality, where libjpeg-turbo is favoring
speed over accuracy when upsamling the chroma components
2. JPEG's standard restart marker aren't properly handled, in favor of
a faster huffman decoding
3. Asymetric performance gain between 32bit and 64bit arch., which
means specific, per arch. code paths and not algorithmic and
architecture wise tweaks that could benefit all the architectures.

To me, 1. and 2. are a bit worrying, I don't want to scarify standard
correctness over a 15% perf. boost. The only items that stands out are
the SIMD routines which can be merged with the ijg's official libjpeg,
and I think we should push in that direction instead.

-Ilyes Gouta

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Adam Tkac at...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:51:56PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
 On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Adam Tkac wrote:
  On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:33:38PM +0200, Adam Tkac wrote:
 
  I'm going to create a Fedora feature for this task.
 
  Done. You can check
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libjpeg-turbo.
 

 Thanks. Is there an SRPM we can give it a test?

 Yes, I just created it, check
 http://atkac.fedorapeople.org/libjpeg-turbo. I also updated the
 feature page because no package linked against current libjpeg needs
 to be rebuilt, libjpeg-turbo is API/ABI compatible. You can simply
 build  install libjpeg-turbo and you should immediately see
 performance benefits.

 If you prefer to test libjpeg-turbo in more conservative way you can
 build SRPM and then extract libjpeg.so from it
 (`rpm2cpio libjpeg-turbo.rpm | cpio -id`) and simply LD_PRELOAD it.

 Regards, Adam

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Re: Font rendering in F13

2010-07-19 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/07/19/1524250/FreeType-Project-Cheers-TrueType-Patent-Expiration

Are we going to have it enabled for Fedora 14?

-Ilyes Gouta

On Wednesday, May 26, 2010, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 07:30:56PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
 Depends on the criteria you use. The with bytecode version has better
 kerning, better shapes, better flow, but is blurry (yeah, without

 Not just blurry, though -- awkwardly blurry. At screen resolution, in fact,
 I think it's pushing it to even say that the blurriness makes better shapes
 -- there's not enough pixels to make that work. The font has no bytecode, so
 it's not being hinted.


 But generally, if font looks bad hinted when using BCI, it's most likely
 a bug in font, but when BCI is not present we need to fall back to
 autohinter, not just turn off the hinting.

 Absolutely. I'm not opposed to the BCI, just opposed to failing to autohint
 non-bytecoded glyphs when the feature is enabled.

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Re: directfb, fusionsound packaged, review for submition and sdl2 bridge

2014-01-19 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Juan Manuel Borges Caño
 juanmabcm...@gmail.com wrote:
  The packages built okay without the optional kernel module (to know,
  linux-fusion is the one), if that turns to be obligatory, again, i'd take
  alsa packaging as a cool example :)

 ALSA kernel modules are included in the upstream kernel, AFAIK
 DirectFB ones are not. In order to be included in Fedora, they need to
 be upstream or Fedora kernel maintainers convinced to ship them within
 the kernel package.
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:KernelModules


It should be possible to build DirectFB-multi without the linux-fusion
kernel module, so that's reverting to shmem and UNIX sockets for IPC. I
remember I saw fixes for Fusion userspace posted against the -1.7 branch.

Ilyes



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