RPM's For ClipGrab
Hi! Today I found Fedora Specific RPM packages for ClipGrab, a GUI tool for Downloading Youtube Videos. The thing is, the binary file that the original developers give away for general linux use didn't work for me and I wasn't able to compile it by source, so I went to RPMFind but didn't found anything... Searching in the web, I found a repo of an OpenSUSE user that made Fedora RPM Packages for this app and I tested the 64 bit one in my F15 system, worked great. Uploaded the 32 64 Bit RPM's to my CDN and also the SRC.RPM: 32 Bits: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/clipgrab-3.1.0.1-2.1.i686.rpm 64 Bits: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/clipgrab-3.1.0.1-2.1.x86_64.rpm src.rpm: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/clipgrab-3.1.0.1-2.1.src.rpm I'm posting this here in case someone is interested in pushing this RPM's into RPMFusion or something like that, the repo where I found them is this one: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Faster3ck:/fasterindesign/Fedora_15/ And if you want some more information about ClipGrab: http://clipgrab.de/en Have a Nice Day. -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Need Little IT advice Here...
Hi, I was Wondering if there was a tool for Linux in general that let me undo the system changes at reboot or something like that, For example: I want to set a standard configuration in a machine and then let that machine to be used by many users, but as soon as the user Log Out (preferably in that moment) I want the machine to undo all the possible changes the user may have done while he/she was using it. I've seen this behavior on Windows Machines in Schools and Offices, and I know it has something to do about a server controlling all the individual computers but I want to apply that behavior to a Single Linux computer without having the server in the middle... If there's not a General Linux Tool I would like to Know wich distro and desktop enviroment are the best choice to get this done, using what tools, P.S. it's like... Having a customized LiveCD Behavior but with the system installed, so if I need to do changes, I can ensure I can do them without many problems, and then Lock the system again... Hope somebody knows, Thanks! -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[RPM] for Jokosher 0.11.5 (F15 noarch)
Hi there Fedora People!! One of my biggest passions in life is audio editing, so when I started using Linux I found this friendly (yet powerful) audio editor called Jokosher. When I installed Fedora 15, I realized that jokosher wasn't added to the F15 repos and I missed it a lot, so I built an RPM using the lastest source code the jokosher developers have on their website: http://www.jokosher.org/ and now I want to share it with you guys, so if someone wants to add it to the official repos that might be awesome, the download links are down here: RPM - http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.noarch.rpm SRC.RPM - http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.src.rpm it's a noarch package so it can be installed in both 32 and 64 bit systems, Enjoy! -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [RPM] for Jokosher 0.11.5 (F15 noarch)
2011/9/15 Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi there Fedora People!!
One of my biggest passions in life is audio editing, so when I started
using
Linux I found this friendly (yet powerful) audio editor called
Jokosher.
When I
installed Fedora 15, I realized that jokosher wasn't added to the F15
repos
and I missed it a lot, so I built an RPM using the lastest source code
the
jokosher developers have on their website:
http://www.jokosher.org/
and now I want to share it with you guys, so if someone wants to
add it to the official repos that might be awesome, the download
links are down here:
RPM -
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.noarch.rpm
SRC.RPM -
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/xenodecdn/jokosher-0.11.5-0.fc15.src.rpm
it's a noarch package so it can be installed in both 32 and 64 bit
systems,
Enjoy!
I pulled the SRPM and gave it a look over. Pretty good overall! I'm
not sure how much you've packaged before but I couldn't find much
wrong with it. Here's what I did find:
1. Why is the license GPLv2+ with exceptions?
2. I got rid of %clean and rm -rf %{buildroot} in %install. You
don't need those anymore.
3. I got rid of a lot of the white space in the description and fixed
one spelling error (rpmlint is your friend).
4. %exclude in %files for the Profiling.py file is not the way to go.
That works well for excluding files you want in a separate
sub-package. In this case because the file (nor the byte-compiled
versions) are needed at all, I used rm -f
%{buildroot}%{python_sitelib}/Jokosher/Profiler.py* in %install
instead.
5. I changed the release to 1 since it's from the stable source
instead of a pre-release checkout.
6. Added python2-devel as a build requirement[1].
Here's the updated SRPM:
http://hobbes1069.fedorapeople.org/jokosher/jokosher-0.11.5-1.fc15.src.rpm
So the question remains, instead of seeing if someone else will submit
it, why not submit it yourself?
Thanks,
Richard
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#BuildRequires
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Hi Richard:
I'm not much of a packager, just learned the basics experimenting
with Kmess some time ago... What I did was pulling an old RPM from
F14 with pretty old Source code and then Rebuild a new package with
the lastest source code, making some very little changes to the spec file.
Humm I might be interested in pulling it into the repos if I knew how
to do that but I'm not informed about that topic very much, so Don't
Know how to submit it :S
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Re: Just Patched Kmess 2.0.6.1 :)
2011/11/23 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:52:11 -0600, ME (Manuel) wrote: (Cross Posting both to the Developers and Users List, sent a copy to Rex Dieter, who I believe is the maintainer for Kmess in the Fedora Community) http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/kmess -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Ok, Just reported the bug at bugzilla explaining everything about the problem and leaving a link to the patched RPM's in the description of the bug, also attached the patch I used to fix the problem into the filed bug so you guys can fix it and fill it as a regular update, have a nice day! -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/22 Till Maas opensou...@till.name On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:19:53PM +0400, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: without help i'll not be able to continue. please test the application on non-KDE desktops, think for improvements give feedbacks. Maybe you get more feedback if you make it a F15 feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy Also you might get more feedback from potential users, e.g. if you ask on the fedora user list or in the fedora forum. Another way might be to finalize it so that it can be packaged and installed. Then people can install it and use it. I am not part of the target audience of the application, therefore I cannot tell you much about it. But please do not rely on a global writeable file. Regards Till -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel 1) I was the one who put a google wave link in the wiki, I tought it might be a good way of comunication because anyone with a Gmail account can acess to a wave and use it. If someone do not have a Gmail account he/she simply can use the IRC, can contact anyone that's helping via their wiki's and also can use this mailing list. I do not see any problem there. 2) I think the final goal of this is to have an app that could be packaged and used in fedora 15 or a future release as till said, but we're just starting... let time be time :) I'm here for anything you need. P.S. I wrote an article for the Fedora-LATAM magazine about this project. Maybe with that we can broadcast wider and get some more help. The magazine is going to be released on september 5th. -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/23 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:03 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: Why isn't this idea merged into PackageKit and the rest of the update infrastructure, which should take care of important notifications to users? Or were you expecting other types of notifications? The motivation for this system was that when we managed to break PackageKit's notification system, we couldn't use the PK notification system to tell people to install the update to fix the PK notification system. =) (I suppose if we have two mechanisms, we'd have to try really hard to break both of them at once. But I'm not really sure if a generic mechanism for us to spam the user is a great idea.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel We're Losing here: a) Yes. My principal underground propouse with this idea was creating a Notification System that might be useful for all distros. That's the why I suggested the Name Hermes for the project b) Let's test it first in Fedora and see how it goes, my idea was having a notification system that let the user Choose between what kind of news they wanna recieve in some part of the instalation process (trough anaconda) so if they want the notifier ON they would have that option during the install and they will be able to choose between feeds. By example, if I wanna recieve news about bugs, Everytime there's a problem like the update bug in Fedora 13 my notifier will pop out from the tray and will inform that to me as packagekit does when there's a update available and some seconds later it dissapears but I can still read that by clicking in the information button of KDE at the end of my panel. By other hand, if one user wants to recieve all the news from all the fedora planet's blogs, obviously that user is going to recieve tons and tons of notifications... In few words, my idea (Hermes) was focused in building a Feed Parser customizable by the user that can be turned on/off trough anaconda the first time the user installs... For more details I invite you to read the full thread about hermes, wich was born in the ambassadors list, here's a digest just to call it something: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015238.html (That's the first message and the thread continous to the last message when mahmoud told me we're switching to the devel list) Once you're awared about everything, I think it's going to be easier start joining ideas for the goal :) -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/24 Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Reading this - I'm not sure all Fedora notifications should go through system notification system. Why? I understand it for urgent/priority notification like Close your desktop, nuclear war out there (or just a security update combined with some steps how to fix it). But I hope it should work for a lot of things like Fedora elections etc. - this should for example go to your calendar, some tips how to use Fedora (just a RSS feed like Plasma widget?) etc. That essentially already exists [0], so just point your existing widgets at that. I personally think that shoving things of this nature in users' faces is not the job of an operating system. [0] http://planet.fedoraproject.org/atom.xml -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel @Jaroslav: The idea is to have a way to communicate Fedora with the user and viceversa... If Fedora has another Important Bug like the Update One in Fedora 13 Hermes will tell the user inmediatly and it will say the user how to fix it. The idea is to have not only a notification system, but also a way to keep the user in touch with Fedora. I think that if there's already a plasma widget for a RSS Feed Parser (Or a screenlet in case of gnome) we can start working from there... I'll also would like to offer the user a search bar in hermes that uses fedora's database to give search results to the user, so when someone using fedora wants to know a HowTo instead of using Google, they'll have the option of Fedora answering them @Garret: Many things are not the job of an operating system already... The idea is to transform Fedora in more that just software... Let's transform it into a intelligent enviroment concerned about it's users and powered by it's community... -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/24 Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com 2010/8/24 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Michal Hlavinka wrote: disagree, have you seen your notifications after leaving your computer alone for several hours with IM client connected (with whatever status)? You'll get tons of User XY has changed status to: blah blah Well, IMHO Kopete shouldn't spam notifications for this type of non- exceptional event at all. Is this enabled by default? If so, maybe we should disable it by default in kde-settings? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Hey people! I have an advance for you, it's somewhat interesting... We're close to have what we're looking for... I'll share a video soon... :D -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 Well, now I have free time, let's see... I've been investigating and there's a Plasma Widget called RSSNOW, That's for KDE... and For Gnome and derivates, there's a Feed Reader Screenlet... We also have a Fedora Search Engine So I was thinking in something like this: http://ubuntuone.com/p/DuN/ I dont' know if it's possible to tweak the code of these apps, Or we can use Google Gadgets as a Base, we build a Feed Parser that let the user suscribe to a fedora Feed (Like planet's one or the twitter/facebook ones or something else) so the users can select what kind of news they wanna recieve and everytime there's a new update the parser pop out and send a visual notification to the user. Now, this is the Fedora search engine: http://ubuntuone.com/p/DuP/ I was wondering if it's possible to integrate a search box into hermes that uses that engine as a base... I wanted to share a video of the basic idea but these pictures are enough :) -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/25 Mika Kuusela m...@lists.mail.kapsi.fi On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 20:05 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: Now, this is the Fedora search engine: http://ubuntuone.com/p/DuP/ I was wondering if it's possible to integrate a search box into hermes that uses that engine as a base... The start.fedoraproject.org search engine is nothing but a Google search box. AFAIK, there have been discussions on the advisory-board list that something should be done with it, either make it to redirect to fedoraproject.org or something else. -- Mika Kuusela wilmore @ #fedora-qa -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel @Mika: Thank's for the info, I've got another idea ;) -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/26 Mahmoud Abdul Jawad abduljawad.mahm...@gmail.com On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 06:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: I have to agree with Kevin here (!). Employing a notification system in parallel to the ones already provides by the desktop environment is a total nonstarter. in fact, your point means there will be two versions, KDE version other desktops version, which imo is not the best call. however, after seeing the big number of the alternative solutions, the bigger number of the disagreements, i'm going to stop for a while before i make sure whether i should continue or not. -- Regards,, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad @meGenius -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel We have to continue! I propouse using Google's stuff in order to have a Standard for all desktops and maybe linux distros... By the moment I've created a Fedora's search engine for hermes, here is the official announcement: Quoted Mail: Hi! I've been working in a project called Hermes (For more information refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hermes) The idea is to build a Feed Parser customizable by the user that notifies when there are important news... As an additional feature I wanted to integrate a FEDORA SEARCH BOX, so I tought I might use the one that's in http://start.fedoraproject.org/ But I asked some users and I tried it discovering that that search box was a normal, common Google's Search Box. In order to provide a better information service for the user, I tought that building a Fedora's Custom Search Engine based on Google might be useful in both ways to HERMES and the http://start.fedoraproject.org/ webpage, so I built one. I called it the Fedora's Engine and is built over Google's CSE Technology, it's multilanguage, UTF-8 encoded and it has two options: Search the Whole web making emphasis in some sites or Search the Whole web The first option makes a search consult all along the web but it make emphasis in these sites: http://goo.gl/cRfP (Click to see the list) The second option give the same results as if you're searching on Google The Search Engine has the autofill option enabled and it's fedora branded, as you may see I included all the Fedora relevant sites so this engine is a fully fedora search engine that we can use in the Hermes Project and also in the http://start.fedoraproject.org/ webpage. The code is right here: http://fpaste.org/DmBz/ You can preview the working engine here:* *http://tinyurl.com/fedorasengine And If you want to Download the .html file with the code, it's right here: http://ubuntuone.com/p/E04/ Hope you find this idea useful :) -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Search Engine Proposal
Hi! I've been working in a project called Hermes (For more information refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hermes) The idea is to build a Feed Parser customizable by the user that notifies when there are important news... As an additional feature I wanted to integrate a FEDORA SEARCH BOX, so I tought I might use the one that's in http://start.fedoraproject.org/ But I asked some users and I tried it discovering that that search box was a normal, common Google's Search Box. In order to provide a better information service for the user, I tought that building a Fedora's Custom Search Engine based on Google might be useful in both ways to HERMES and the http://start.fedoraproject.org/ webpage, so I built one. I called it the Fedora's Engine and is built over Google's CSE Technology, it's multilanguage, UTF-8 encoded and it has two options: Search the Whole web making emphasis in some sites or Search the Whole web The first option makes a search consult all along the web but it make emphasis in these sites: http://goo.gl/cRfP (Click to see the list) The second option give the same results as if you're searching on Google The Search Engine has the autofill option enabled and it's fedora branded, as you may see I included all the Fedora relevant sites so this engine is a fully fedora search engine that we can use in the Hermes Project and also in the http://start.fedoraproject.org/ webpage. The code is right here: http://fpaste.org/DmBz/ You can preview the working engine here:* *http://tinyurl.com/fedorasengine And If you want to Download the .html file with the code, it's right here: http://ubuntuone.com/p/E04/ Hope you find this idea useful :) * * * * -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Search Engine Proposal
2010/8/28 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Thomas Janssen wrote: I just tried it. *Very* nice. You DO realize that this stuff is just Google with some options and that it is completely proprietary and out of our control? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I think it's necessary... And is not propietary, the code is out there for anyone to play with it, the real owner is fedora :) -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/29 Gerard Braad gbr...@fedoraproject.org dead It would be more appropriate to have this discussion to take place on openetherpad.org instead of Google Wave. As at least everyone can participate instead of these few with wave account or those who paid for it ;-) Gerard -- Gerard Braad — 吉拉德 Project-lead Fedora-MIPS http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:gbraad -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel 1) No one has to pay for a Google Wave Account, it's free, anyone with a Gmail can use it 2) I didn't know about ubuntuone, but I like to use it, it's just for download files!! we're here like religious fans arguing about what is or what isn't opensource, that's just a thing without sense... (I hate Fanaticism) 3) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one? NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a Fedora Solution an applied search engine for the community. and I can add as many collaborators as I want, I can share my code, I can Modify it, it's more opensource that the one that we're already using... -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Search Engine Proposal
2010/8/29 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Manuel Escudero wrote: I think it's necessary... I think that 1. it's not necessary or useful and 2. it may well be a violation of Fedora's trademark guidelines. And is not propietary, the code is out there for anyone to play with it, the real owner is fedora :) Huh? This code runs on Google's servers (it even has a google.com URL, which you tried to mask using TinyURL) and it uses Google's top secret search engine technology for which the code is definitely NOT out there for anyone to play with. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel 1) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one? NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a Fedora Solution an applied search engine for the community. and I can add as many collaborators as I want, I can share my code, I can Modify it, it's more opensource that the one that we're already using... 2) I'm not masking anything, I'm just making a shorther link XD XD XD, That's just the prewiew page of the search engine, not the official one.. you can built a new site and put the search engine there, as I did with the first one I built: http://tinyurl.com/gyster 3) Just a question: at least, ¿had you tried fedora's engine? XD -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Proprietary search engines (was: Fedora Notifications System.)
2010/8/29 Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:13 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote: 3) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one? NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a Fedora Solution an applied search engine for the community. and I can add as many collaborators as I want, I can share my code, I can Modify it, it's more opensource that the one that we're already using... Just to make this clear on 3). We grandfathered that in, meaning it is now against policy to do more of it but we didn't remove it because it had historical significance. Though I believe we're in the works to replace the start page with something else. Interesting. I can understand not wanting to promote a proprietary search engine on the Fedora start page, but if the idea is that Fedora users and contributors should be able to avoid using them altogether, I think that's currently pretty unrealistic. People have questions all the time, and being able to search the whole web for an answer at once is great. Without a web search, one has to do a separate search of each data source (wiki, bug database, mailing lists) of each relevant project, assuming those search features even exist and that it is possible to identify all the relevant projects in advance (harder when searching for work to reuse). -- Matt -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... With Fedora's engine I'm giving you the chance of having something more opensource and also more specific and useful for the fedora users who want to search things all around the web. -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Notifications System.
2010/8/29 Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote: 2010/8/29 Gerard Braad gbr...@fedoraproject.org dead It would be more appropriate to have this discussion to take place on openetherpad.org instead of Google Wave. As at least everyone can participate instead of these few with wave account or those who paid for it ;-) Gerard -- Gerard Braad — 吉拉德 Project-lead Fedora-MIPS http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:gbraad -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel 1) No one has to pay for a Google Wave Account, it's free, anyone with a Gmail can use it 2) I didn't know about ubuntuone, but I like to use it, it's just for download files!! we're here like religious fans arguing about what is or what isn't opensource, that's just a thing without sense... (I hate Fanaticism) 3) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one? NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a Fedora Solution an applied search engine for the community. and I can add as many collaborators as I want, I can share my code, I can Modify it, it's more opensource that the one that we're already using... Just to make this clear on 3). We grandfathered that in, meaning it is now against policy to do more of it but we didn't remove it because it had historical significance. Though I believe we're in the works to replace the start page with something else. -Mike -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... With Fedora's engine I'm giving you the chance of having something more opensource and also more specific and useful for the fedora users who want to search things all around the web. -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Search Engine Proposal
2010/8/29 Arthur Pemberton pem...@gmail.com On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com wrote: AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... http://start.fedoraproject.org/ is using a Google Search Box... YOU DON'T HAVE THE CODE TO PLAY WITH IT OR ANYTHING... With Fedora's engine I'm giving you the chance of having something more opensource and also more specific and useful for the fedora users... I think McGrath has already mentioned that the current start page is only in because of its age. I am not sure how utilizing Google Search makes anything more open source. Its just using a web service. -- Fedora 13 (www.pembo13.com) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Well, I tought that if you're using a GoogleBox, maybe having a customizable Google box will be useful and interesting because we can code it as we want... Have any of you used Fedora's engine? -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Search Engine Proposal
2010/8/29 Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 15:07 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... http://start.fedoraproject.org/ is using a Google Search Box... YOU DON'T HAVE THE CODE TO PLAY WITH IT OR ANYTHING... With Fedora's engine I'm giving you the chance of having something more opensource Passing additional configuration to the Google search does not make the whole any more open source (or less). and also more specific and useful for the fedora users... I'll buy that. But there's no point in improving the Google search on http://start.fedoraproject.org if it is going to be replaced anyway with something that complies with the free software policy. -- Matt -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I wanna see the day when that box get replaced... This is the problem with linux communities most users talk and just few ones work to do better things. Anyway, good luck with everything... -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Graphics Test Week final stretch: Intel
2010/9/30 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Graphics Test Week moves into its final stretch today / tomorrow (depending where you are!) with Intel graphics Test Day - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-30_Intel . As with the others, this event runs all day in #fedora-test-day on Freenode IRC, and testing instructions and live images (same as for the other two days) are on the Wiki page. Intel graphics users, please come out and help us make sure Fedora 14's graphics support is as good as it can be! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I'm really busy right now and maybe I won't be able to participate, but it will be great if someone can test an Intel GMA 3100 (This is the graphics card I use in F13) because it doesn't support very well the Kwin Effects enabled and in VMWare Player I'm not able to have Aero Support inside a Virtual Windows 7 because the 3D capabilities are not recognized by the system... This issues are not present in other distros (Kubuntu, OpenSUSE, Mandriva) in their last versions even in LiveCD mode (where I can have a Transparent KDE for example) and the computer is not slow. I believe there is a problem with Fedora's support to my graphics card. Hope someone can help to fix it in future releases... -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Ubuntu 10.10's installer looks rather nice
2010/10/12 James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 16:00 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 11:11 -0400, Chris Lumens wrote: - suggests a username and hostname based on the user's real name (Mac OS X's installer also does this -- it's a nice touch) If DNS knows a hostname, we will suggest that. Of course it's not foolproof. That's not it. Your name is entered (Chris Lumens) and from it you should get a hostname (chris-lumens-fedora-desktop.local) as well as a presentation name (Chris Lumens' Fedora Desktop) which could be used for things like services being advertised through avahi, or even the default name for the Bluetooth adapters. The Mac does this too, and I'm sure it's great for avahi stuff ... but it's really annoying for anyone using the hostname anywhere else (mainly due to the expected size). Is there nowhere else that we could store a hostsummary instead of hostname? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I believe anaconda is Ok, But many users complain about it, I honestly can't understand why. What I can undersand and even say is that anaconda needs a little more polished experience. I mean, in the look part Fedora needs a re-birthday, we use same graphics combination in anaconda, the same Gnome theme, the same themes to pick for (gtk) and mostly the same that when Fedora started. I believe we need to polish that look part, as far as I understand an O.S. Needs to be newer in each new version not only in features, but also in look. If we can give that to users, discussions like these ones will be present in a fewer number. -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: HEADS UP: KDE/Qt update intentions in Fedora 13 (RFC)
2010/10/25 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:24:30 +0300 Kalev Lember ka...@smartlink.ee wrote: On 10/20/2010 03:02 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The question is (we agreed on KDE SIG meeting yesterday) - should we update Qt to 4.7 too or build KDE stack with current 4.6 series? As there are a few Qt packages outside of KDE SIG/Qt maintainers scope, we'd like to hear any objections against update - bugs we can fix etc. Qt 4.7 is quite well tested, thanks to work on Fedora 14 (Qt 4.7 is already included) and a lot of users are actually using this combination in Fedora 13. KDE is pretty much self contained, whereas a Qt upgrade affects a much larger number of packages. I don't think updating Qt to a new major version in a stable Fedora release is a good idea; it just causes too much churn. ...snip... I agree with Kalev here. Qt upgrade in a stable release is to be avoided unless there's some severe bug or security issue that can't be backported. kevin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I have KDE 4.5.2 in my Fedora 13 wich as far as I understand uses the last version of Qt, the computer is working Flawlessly :D -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 14 Kmess 2.0.6 RPM Packages (i686 x86_64) :P
I bring to you 32 64 bits RPM packages for Kmess 2.0.6.1-0 to install on your F14 Systems!!! I've just finished building and testing them, you can download the packages from here: 32 Bits Systems: http://goo.gl/Us6pt 64 Bits Systems: http://goo.gl/eNrgh P.S. I also have the debuginfo packages and the src.rpm ones, if you need them just contact me Thanks! -- -Manuel Escudero- Linux User #509052 @GWave: jmlev...@googlewave.com @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog) PGP/GnuPG: DAE3 82E9 D68E 7AE4 ED31 1F8F 4AF4 D00C 50E7 ABC6 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Today I'll be switching from BTRFS to Ext4 again because of the troubles I've been having with the New Linux Filesystem. As BTRFS is going to be the Default in F16 I wanted the developers to know what kind of troubles I've been experiencing with this FS in F15 so they can take a look at them in order to have a better F16 release: The Good: Since BTRFS arrived into my computer (Everything in the HDD is formated with BTRFS excluding /boot) I've seen a performance improvement in the data transfer part from and to the computer (copying files seem to be faster than before) But that's all about the good things I noticed... The Bad: BTRFS has reduced system's overall performance, at this point, sometimes it is OK, sometimes it is VERY BAD, I've noticed Performance Peaks in F15 with BTRFS and the Boot times are not nice: I mean, they are not the slowest ones, but they're not as good as Before in F14 with Ext4 instead of BTRFS. The performance Running/Launching apps has been afected too and now the PC freezes sometimes (that never happened in F14 unless I forced it a lot with 4 VM's to suck the 4GB of RAM I have); And Now it freezes very often when it wants without a lot of effort. The Ugly: Running VM's when having their virtual HDD's stored in a BTRFS partition is DEATH! They're very slow, sometimes they open, sometimes they not, usually they freeze, You can't work with them. Same thing about Gnome Shell working over a BTRFS partition: it is really slow, sometimes it reacts but most of the time is pretty unresponsive. Reading in the Web, I found that some users think that the BTRFS poor performance is caused by some special kind of fragmentation it suffers, others think it's because of it's CopyonWrite attributes and some others blame other stuff, God Knows! the only thing I know is that BTRFS is not ready for being used in normal production machines (as I tought) and it needs to be fixed before the release of F16, because it's performance is really far from good... Other Stuff I noticed is that with Kernel 2.6.38.8-35 the system seems to work better that with the previous one, just a little, but is some kind of improvement. Here you have all the info I found on the net about BTRFS Performance issues noticed by users: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689127 http://arosenfeld.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/back-to-ext4-from-btrfs/ http://www.vyatta4people.org/btrfs-is-a-bad-choice-when-running-kvm/ http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/7/13/475 http://blog.patshead.com/2011/03/btrfs---six-months-later.html I only have a question: Why Any Kind of VM is Sooo Slow when being stored on a BTRFS partition? Any Way to Solve this? or at least have a BTRFS performance improvement? Thanks! Hope this mail help the Developers improving the new FS. Have a Nice Day! -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
2011/7/13 Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com wrote: Today I'll be switching from BTRFS to Ext4 again because of the troubles I've been having with the New Linux Filesystem. As BTRFS is going to be the Default in F16 I wanted the developers to know what kind of troubles I've been experiencing with this FS in F15 so they can take a look at them in order to have a better F16 release: The Good: Since BTRFS arrived into my computer (Everything in the HDD is formated with BTRFS excluding /boot) I've seen a performance improvement in the data transfer part from and to the computer (copying files seem to be faster than before) But that's all about the good things I noticed... The Bad: BTRFS has reduced system's overall performance, at this point, sometimes it is OK, sometimes it is VERY BAD, I've noticed Performance Peaks in F15 with BTRFS and the Boot times are not nice: I mean, they are not the slowest ones, but they're not as good as Before in F14 with Ext4 instead of BTRFS. The performance Running/Launching apps has been afected too and now the PC freezes sometimes (that never happened in F14 unless I forced it a lot with 4 VM's to suck the 4GB of RAM I have); And Now it freezes very often when it wants without a lot of effort. The Ugly: Running VM's when having their virtual HDD's stored in a BTRFS partition is DEATH! They're very slow, sometimes they open, sometimes they not, usually they freeze, You can't work with them. Same thing about Gnome Shell working over a BTRFS partition: it is really slow, sometimes it reacts but most of the time is pretty unresponsive. Reading in the Web, I found that some users think that the BTRFS poor performance is caused by some special kind of fragmentation it suffers, others think it's because of it's CopyonWrite attributes and some others blame other stuff, God Knows! the only thing I know is that BTRFS is not ready for being used in normal production machines (as I tought) and it needs to be fixed before the release of F16, because it's performance is really far from good... Other Stuff I noticed is that with Kernel 2.6.38.8-35 the system seems to work better that with the previous one, just a little, but is some kind of improvement. Here you have all the info I found on the net about BTRFS Performance issues noticed by users: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689127 http://arosenfeld.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/back-to-ext4-from-btrfs/ http://www.vyatta4people.org/btrfs-is-a-bad-choice-when-running-kvm/ http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/7/13/475 http://blog.patshead.com/2011/03/btrfs---six-months-later.html I only have a question: Why Any Kind of VM is Sooo Slow when being stored on a BTRFS partition? Any Way to Solve this? or at least have a BTRFS performance improvement? Yeah VMs are a particular problem with Btrfs. There are a ton of reasons for this, for example by default we use fsync. Fsync _sucks_ for btrfs currently, and it has historically not been a well optimized piece of code. I'm working on fixing this, but it requires VFS level changes that are currently sitting in Al's queue. I suspect they will go into 3.1 and so we can move ahead with our work, but for now, it sucks. You can use cache=none you get better performance, but still not that great. And this is all because of one major thing Btrfs has threads for _everything_. This works out fantastically when you have big chunks of reads or writes you want done. This _sucks_ when you are doing little piddly io's. The reason for all of this is because we don't want you to get bottlenecked on us calculating/verifying checksums, so we farm all IO and endio out to different threads, which as I said works out great if you are trying to cram gigs of data down your drives throat. But with VMs you are doing small scattered IO's, so the IO comes down, we prepare it, and farm it off to a thread and wait for that thread to wake up and submit the io. Then the io is completed and that is farmed off to another thread and we wait on that. This switching around and waiting for things to wake up is hugely painful when all you want to do is write a few bytes. If you were to do dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/btrfs/file bs=4k count=100 oflag=direct on a btrfs fs and then do it on an ext4 fs, you would see about a 20% difference between the 2. But if you do say bs=20M, the gap closes quite a bit. I fixed part of this problem for O_DIRECT (which is cache=none with qemu), if the IO's are small we don't send it off to a thread but submit it within our threads context, which is what got us with 20% of ext4 as opposed to 50%. The other half is doing the completion in the submitters context, which is going to take some extra work. I'm fixing this in the fsync case as well, but as I said we need a VFS
Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
2011/7/13 Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com On 7/13/11 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.07.2011 23:51, schrieb Farkas Levente: So there's my long ass explanation of why VMs on Btrfs suck. I'm sorry, I'm aware of the problem and I'm trying to fix it, but it's a slow going process. if you said that this's the current state of btrfs than it's not ready as a default fs for f16. so please postpone it at least to f17 +1 bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace existing and over a long time well working things - never! You might have said the same thing about ext4 in Fwhatever it was and yet, here we are, shipping it as default for many releases now, with little trouble. Not every big change to Fedora breaks badly, although I can see how some might get that impression. ;) -Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Josef Couldn't say it better: Let's not be dramatic... I'm pretty sure Fedora Developers are not going to make the Switch to BTRFS in F16 if it's not ready, that's why I sen't my feedback and little investigation, in order to help them track down the issues before anything gets released, that's why we work as community and I'm pretty sure that everything is gonna be Okey. P.S. Now I'm in ext4, almost finished reinstalling my system ;) -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)
I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but a user managed to port Ubuntu's Unity to OpenSUSE 12.1 as you can see here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_Ayatana And also I've been told this desktop is available for ArchLinux now as well... As for this facts I was wondering how feasible is to port Unity to Fedora as well (Now that we have OpenSUSE RPM packages of the Unity sources and deps available to play with) and if someone is interested in trying to bring the Unity Desktop to Fedora If no one is, I was wondering where is a good place to start trying to do it so I can try it myself and then maybe I gather some other interested ones... -- Manuel Escudero Linux User #509052 Twitter: @Jmlevick http://twitter.com/Jmlevick Blogger: Blog Xenode http://xenodesystems.blogspot.com/ PGP/GnuPG: E2F5 12FA E1C3 FA58 CF15 8481 B77B 00CA C1E1 0FA7 Xenode Systems - xenodesystems.com http://www.xenodesystems.com/ - Conéctate a Tu Mundo -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
