Re: [OT] struggles installing builds

2008-01-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
I would like to debug these problems.  Find me on IRC - /server 
irc.oftc.net   /join #olpc-devel .   Instances of devices that exhibit 
such problems are valuable for discovering where delays are needed.

If would be nice if devices conformed to the published timing 
requirements, but alas, many do not.  Adding long delays in a lot of 
places just in case extends the boot time for the usual case where a 
child is booting from NAND, so there is a tradeoff.


Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 I now have several SD cards.  OFW will successfully use *one* of 
 them as a source of images.  With the other SD cards, OFW gets 
 stuck trying to write to nand from an image on the SD card.
 [My Linux system reads/writes all these SD cards with no problem.]

 I now have several USB sticks.  OFW will recognize *one* of them, as 
 a source of images.  With the other USB sticks, OFW doesn't even 
 recognize that they are plugged in.  [My Linux system reads/writes 
 all these sticks with no problem.  If I remember correctly, so does 
 the regular OLPC software, once the OLPC is up and running.]


 I *wish* that the OFW were more tolerant of the (timing?) tolerances 
 of the portable storage devices users might plug in.


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Re: New joyride build 1506

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I have no idea. I only added squeak-vm-3.9-12olpc5.i386.rpm to my  
joyride repo. I double-checked the ChangeLog, don't know what's wrong.

Oh, maybe two log entries must not have the same date? I'll change  
one, let's see if this unbreaks it.

- Bert -

On Jan 5, 2008, at 4:58 , Michael Stone wrote:

 Why did Etoys drop back to version 60 and why were etoys and squeak-vm
 removed?

 Thanks,

 Michael

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 +Etoys-60.xo
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Re: loss of wireless after joyride-1496 update

2008-01-05 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 22:09 -0800, Dan Krejsa wrote:
 Attached are the output from 'iwlist scan' and dmesg. 'quibble' is the
 router I'm trying to connect to. It's a netgear WPN824v2.
 
 After collecting these logs, and making another unsuccessful attempt to
 connect to quibble (i.e. clicking on quibble's icon in the neighborhood
 view, waiting for it to stop blinking; winds up with no white outline),
 I ran 'iwlist scan' again. Then I went back to the neighborhood view and
 lo and behold, I was connected to quibble.

This sounds like GUI confusion to me. First you say it didn't connect,
and then you say it did. Please, use 'iwconfig' and 'ifconfig' to
confirm for sure whether you were associated to the AP. And don't rely
on Legacy IP -- run an RADVD dæmon advertising IPv6 addresses, which
will be much more reliable at giving you addresses whenever you're
associated.

If NetworkManager really is failing to associate, I'd like to see debug
logs from the driver while it does so.

First, enable debugging by:
 echo 0x6184  /sys/module/libertas/parameters/libertas_debug

Then, run 'dmesg -c' to clear the kernel's log buffer. Then make the
attempt to join the network, then run 'dmesg  somefile' to store the
log buffer again. And mail the log to me, along with 'iwconfig' output
showing the current state of the device. If you can repeat the process
to show me both a working and a failing attempt to join the network,
that would be useful. Thanks.

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New joyride build 1510

2008-01-05 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1510/

-Pippy-16.xo
+Pippy-17.xo

--- Pippy-17 ---
  * Spanish translation is fixed, thanks to Sayamindu!

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Re: New joyride build 1509

2008-01-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi,

perhaps updates.l.o is without disk space again?

-bash-3.2# olpc-update -rfvv joyride-1509
Downloading contents of build joyride-1509.
@ERROR: unknown module 'build-joyride-1509': Command
'['/usr/bin/fakeroot', '-i',
'/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/fakeroot.state', '-s',
'/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/fakeroot.state', '--',
'/home/upserv/upgrade-server/extract-build.sh',
'/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tmp',
'/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/root',
'/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/build.tar.bz2',
'/home/upserv/builds/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/contents']' returned
non-zero exit status 2
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
main.c(1383) [receiver=2.6.9]

Could not download update contents file from:
  rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1509/contents
I don't think the requested build number exists.


Tomeu

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 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1509/
 
 -rainbow.noarch 0:0.7.5.11.20080104git6c25f7-1.olpc2
 +rainbow.noarch 0:0.7.6-1.olpc2
 -sugar-presence-service.noarch 0:0.65-0.30.20071127git5650e153bd
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Re: loss of wireless after joyride-1496 update

2008-01-05 Thread david

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, David Woodhouse wrote:


On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 22:09 -0800, Dan Krejsa wrote:
Attached are the output from 'iwlist scan' and dmesg. 'quibble' is the
router I'm trying to connect to. It's a netgear WPN824v2.

After collecting these logs, and making another unsuccessful attempt to
connect to quibble (i.e. clicking on quibble's icon in the neighborhood
view, waiting for it to stop blinking; winds up with no white outline),
I ran 'iwlist scan' again. Then I went back to the neighborhood view and
lo and behold, I was connected to quibble.


This sounds like GUI confusion to me. First you say it didn't connect,
and then you say it did. Please, use 'iwconfig' and 'ifconfig' to
confirm for sure whether you were associated to the AP. And don't rely
on Legacy IP -- run an RADVD dæmon advertising IPv6 addresses, which
will be much more reliable at giving you addresses whenever you're
associated.

If NetworkManager really is failing to associate, I'd like to see debug
logs from the driver while it does so.

I;ve seen my XO 'connect' to a mesh node, at which time all the other 
nodes disappear entirely. If I highlight the connected node and select 
'disconnect' the other network nodes show up again after a few min.


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2008-01-05 Thread Build Announcer Script
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-Etoys-60.xo
+Etoys-74.xo
+etoys.noarch 0:2.3.1870-1
+squeak-vm.i386 0:3.9-12olpc5

--- etoys.noarch 2.3.1870-1 ---
  * fixed QuickGuides
  * fix UTF8 path names
  * bigger font for text chat
  * fix kedama translations

--- squeak-vm.i386 3.9-12olpc5 ---
  * fix KedamaPlugin2 (exports where not listed) 
  * fix show-source key
  * fix SEGFAULT in OggPlugin
  * add RomePlugin w/ Pango support
  * fix drag-n-drop
  * remove Mpeg3Plugin

--- Etoys-74 ---
  * fixed QuickGuides
  * fix UTF8 path names
  * bigger font for text chat
  * fix kedama translations

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Localization (translation) questions?

2008-01-05 Thread Kent Loobey
Where is the best place to ask localization questions?

I am creating an activity for pre-literate children.  Two questions come to 
mind.

1. I will have sound entries that will need to be translated.  How do the 
translators want this to be laid out for them.
2. Since some images may not be meaningful/appropriate universally, How do 
locallators want this to be laid out for them.

Maybe this is all described somewhere.  If so could someone point me in the 
right direction.

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Re: Localization (translation) questions?

2008-01-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
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Kent Loobey wrote:
 1. I will have sound entries that will need to be translated.  How do the 
 translators want this to be laid out for them.

Translators are not voice-actors.

There is no infrastructure in place for recording speech in many locations and
collecting it.  There is no network of registered native speakers with
appropriate recording equipment.  These things would be valuable, but they do
not yet exist.

 2. Since some images may not be meaningful/appropriate universally, How do 
 locallators want this to be laid out for them.

Translators are not graphic artists.

The existing localization tools are text-only, so you will have to build your
own localization system for other items.  Because sound and images are very
subjective, localization must be a conversation between yourself and experts in
the target language and culture.  The localization list is a good place for 
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Re: Localization (translation) questions?

2008-01-05 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi Kent,
The localization list would the place you are looking for
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization
Cheers,
Sayamindu

On Jan 5, 2008 10:27 PM, Kent Loobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where is the best place to ask localization questions?

 I am creating an activity for pre-literate children.  Two questions come to
 mind.

 1. I will have sound entries that will need to be translated.  How do the
 translators want this to be laid out for them.
 2. Since some images may not be meaningful/appropriate universally, How do
 locallators want this to be laid out for them.

 Maybe this is all described somewhere.  If so could someone point me in the
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Battery capacity in screen hardstatus line hint

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi,

In case this is of use to anyone, I've put the battery capacity in my
xo screen instance's hardstatus line with this tiny script  screenrc
change:

-- /home/olpc/bin/olpc_screen_status.sh
#!/bin/bash
# Author: Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# idea from http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00322.html
# based on battery info from olpc-logbat
#
B_INFO=/sys/class/power_supply/olpc-battery

while true
do
CAP=`cat $B_INFO/capacity`
echo b:$CAP%
sleep 60
done
--

screenrc change:

-- /home/olpc/bin/.screenrc
# run command forever and assign most recent output to string escape %1`
backtick 1 0 0 /home/olpc/bin/olpc_screen_status.sh

# the ...%1`... part at the end is the important part
hardstatus alwayslastline %{.bW}%-w%{.rW}%n %t%{-}%+w %=%{..G} %H %{..Y} %m/%d 
%C%a %1` 
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I'd be interested to know how to get at the ambient temperature sensor
mentioned in section 2.4.1 of the CL1 hardware design specification
PDF.  I've had a look around /sys/class but nothing's jumped out at
me.

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Re: Localization (translation) questions?

2008-01-05 Thread Albert Cahalan
Kent Loobey writes:

 I am creating an activity for pre-literate children.
 Two questions come to mind.

 1. I will have sound entries that will need to be translated.
 How do the translators want this to be laid out for them.
 2. Since some images may not be meaningful/appropriate universally,
 How do locallators want this to be laid out for them.

Me too, for Tux Paint. (now you know why Tux Paint is so big)
Tux Paint identifies 74 languages by code:

af ar be bg bo br ca cs cy da de el en en_gb en_za eo es es_mx
et eu fi fo fr ga gd gl gos gu he hi hr hu tlh id is it ja ka
ko ku lt lv ms nb nl nn nr oj pl pt_br pt_pt ro ru rw sk sl sq
sr sv sw ta te th tl tr twi uk ve vi wa wo xh zh_cn zh_tw

When loading a sound, it looks for a file name like this:
%s_%s.ogg, basename, lang

For some things, simply pass a filename to gettext. This is
a good method for mostly-universal symbols that need a few
exceptions.

I seem to have 904 translated stamp sounds, as follows:

 10 *_el.ogg
 10 *_es.ogg
 10 *_ja.ogg
 10 *_ko.ogg
 10 *_nn.ogg
 10 *_tw.ogg
 72 *_nl.ogg
177 *_fr.ogg
595 *_ca.ogg

That means 65 languages without translated sounds, and only 3 with
translations beyond the digits. (Help!)
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Re: loss of wireless after joyride-1496 update

2008-01-05 Thread Dan Krejsa
Hi David  Richard,

David, I'll try your debugging tips next time this occurs, thanks...
Re. the IPv6 RADVD daemon, I don't think the Netgear router supports
that, so I'd have to use another machine; I'll consider it.

Richard, yes, the WPN824v2 is pre-N; the current firmware version is
V2.0.10_1.2.17. (I think incorporates the current and former
firmware versions. I upgraded the firmware to 2.0.10 after receiving
your mail. I did see the problem once with the new router firmware as
well as the old, but after several attempts the XO did associate and get
an IP address from the router's DHCP. I'll try to add some notes to the
wiki page.)

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions!

- Dan



On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 11:11 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 22:09 -0800, Dan Krejsa wrote:
  Attached are the output from 'iwlist scan' and dmesg. 'quibble' is the
  router I'm trying to connect to. It's a netgear WPN824v2.
  
  After collecting these logs, and making another unsuccessful attempt to
  connect to quibble (i.e. clicking on quibble's icon in the neighborhood
  view, waiting for it to stop blinking; winds up with no white outline),
  I ran 'iwlist scan' again. Then I went back to the neighborhood view and
  lo and behold, I was connected to quibble.
 
 This sounds like GUI confusion to me. First you say it didn't connect,
 and then you say it did. Please, use 'iwconfig' and 'ifconfig' to
 confirm for sure whether you were associated to the AP. And don't rely
 on Legacy IP -- run an RADVD dæmon advertising IPv6 addresses, which
 will be much more reliable at giving you addresses whenever you're
 associated.
 
 If NetworkManager really is failing to associate, I'd like to see debug
 logs from the driver while it does so.
 
 First, enable debugging by:
  echo 0x6184  /sys/module/libertas/parameters/libertas_debug
 
 Then, run 'dmesg -c' to clear the kernel's log buffer. Then make the
 attempt to join the network, then run 'dmesg  somefile' to store the
 log buffer again. And mail the log to me, along with 'iwconfig' output
 showing the current state of the device. If you can repeat the process
 to show me both a working and a failing attempt to join the network,
 that would be useful. Thanks.
 

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A jabber hosting offer...

2008-01-05 Thread Dave Belfer-Shevett
I've just received my, er,  my son's XO, and he's ecstatic with it, 
enjoying fiddling with Python programs and other tidbits.  I've heard 
that the Jabber 'chat' functions are disabled on the US XO's, mostly 
because the existing jabber hosts can't really take the load of all 
these machines going out.

I have machinery and bandwidth available for setting up a dedicated, 
fairly powerful machine specifically to run Jabber for the OLPC 
community.  I have no problems building, configuring, installing, and 
maintaining the machine in a colo facility in Bedford, MA.  I'll donate 
the hardware and time to make it work, if it'll benefit the project.

I'm looking at a dual-Xeon 2.8 gig Ubuntu Gutsy box (1U) with a pair of 
mirrored drives.  The facility has multiple peered connections (it 
supports a series of VOIP servers), and is well managed.

I have experience running jabber servers, and sysadminning.  Would this 
be of benefit to the community?

Please let me know.  I can be reached on jabber at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine too. 
I'm also (obviously) on the devel list :)

Thanks.  I do want to contribute to the project in any way I can...

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Copy-on-write for develop

2008-01-05 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
I'm doing some initial thinking about how I want the Develop activity to
work. I'd like it to start out with write access to a shallow (file-linked)
copy of the activity's whole directory, and then if there are any writes,
start up source control. I'm not an expert on file systems, though, so I
don't know how easy this scheme is. Is copy-on-write link breaking supported
on JFFS2? I google the ideas and I get a lot about the JFFS2 internals,
which do support COW, but nothing about whether that's accessible outside
the OS.

Does anyone know if it is possible for Sugar to support something like this?
That is, if it there's any way - either file-system-native or through some
strap-on - to safely hand a link to a process so that (either magically or
manually) it can replace the link with a local copy if needed, but it CANNOT
modify the original file?

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Re: Copy-on-write for develop

2008-01-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
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Jameson Chema Quinn wrote:
 Does anyone know if it is possible for Sugar to support something like
 this? That is, if it there's any way - either file-system-native or
 through some strap-on - to safely hand a link to a process so that
 (either magically or manually) it can replace the link with a local copy
 if needed, but it CANNOT modify the original file?

In the interest of simplicity, why not just use UNIX permissions and simple
editor logic?

The activity's files are all read-only to non-root.  Just read them into the
editor.  If the user makes a change, save it as a new file, with appropriate
permissions.

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Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages

2008-01-05 Thread ffm
User blocked, all articles created by user deleted.
-ffm

On Jan 5, 2008 3:58 PM, Tom Hannen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 The wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages, made by user
 Star...

 Can someone go in and clear them quickly?

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Re: A jabber hosting offer...

2008-01-05 Thread Dave Belfer-Shevett
Walter Bender wrote:
 While we have ideas about how to scale up the jabber interface, it has
 also always been the idea that local communities (schools,
 neighborhoods), communities of interest (book clubs, chess clubs)
 etc., would run their own servers. The more the merrier at this stage.
 We probably need a better forum for advertising them. In any case,
 there are instructions in the wiki: go for it.
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ejabberd_Configuration

My wife and I were talking about this earlier, and going 'community' 
seems to be the better choice.  I'll probably set something up in the 
next week or two specifically for Boston-area (mostly my social circles, 
but I suspect it'll expand) groups.

Do I simply use the sugar-control-panel -s jabber j1.olpc.stonekeep.com 
or the like to point the XO's to my server?  And they'll come up as 
active / neighborhood users?

Thanks...

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Re: A jabber hosting offer...

2008-01-05 Thread Walter Bender
While we have ideas about how to scale up the jabber interface, it has
also always been the idea that local communities (schools,
neighborhoods), communities of interest (book clubs, chess clubs)
etc., would run their own servers. The more the merrier at this stage.
We probably need a better forum for advertising them. In any case,
there are instructions in the wiki: go for it.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ejabberd_Configuration

-walter


On Jan 5, 2008 3:28 PM, Dave Belfer-Shevett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just received my, er,  my son's XO, and he's ecstatic with it,
 enjoying fiddling with Python programs and other tidbits.  I've heard
 that the Jabber 'chat' functions are disabled on the US XO's, mostly
 because the existing jabber hosts can't really take the load of all
 these machines going out.

 I have machinery and bandwidth available for setting up a dedicated,
 fairly powerful machine specifically to run Jabber for the OLPC
 community.  I have no problems building, configuring, installing, and
 maintaining the machine in a colo facility in Bedford, MA.  I'll donate
 the hardware and time to make it work, if it'll benefit the project.

 I'm looking at a dual-Xeon 2.8 gig Ubuntu Gutsy box (1U) with a pair of
 mirrored drives.  The facility has multiple peered connections (it
 supports a series of VOIP servers), and is well managed.

 I have experience running jabber servers, and sysadminning.  Would this
 be of benefit to the community?

 Please let me know.  I can be reached on jabber at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine too.
 I'm also (obviously) on the devel list :)

 Thanks.  I do want to contribute to the project in any way I can...

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Re: New joyride build 1511

2008-01-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On Jan 5, 2008, at 23:28 , Marcus Leech wrote:

 Build Announcer Script wrote:
 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1511/

 -Etoys-60.xo
 +Etoys-74.xo
 +etoys.noarch 0:2.3.1870-1
 +squeak-vm.i386 0:3.9-12olpc5

 --- etoys.noarch 2.3.1870-1 ---
   * fixed QuickGuides
   * fix UTF8 path names
   * bigger font for text chat
   * fix kedama translations

 --- squeak-vm.i386 3.9-12olpc5 ---
   * fix KedamaPlugin2 (exports where not listed)
   * fix show-source key
   * fix SEGFAULT in OggPlugin
   * add RomePlugin w/ Pango support
   * fix drag-n-drop
   * remove Mpeg3Plugin

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   * fixed QuickGuides
   * fix UTF8 path names
   * bigger font for text chat
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 Something is wrong with the server, methinks.   I haven't been able to
 olpc-update from joyride-1503 to joyride-anything.

 I get some errors, followed by I don't think the requested build  
 number
 exists.

The build is actually okay, but the update server seems to have run  
out of disk space again.

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Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages

2008-01-05 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
ffm wrote:
 User blocked, all articles created by user deleted.

Don't they ever learn that vandalism is pointless with
a wiki  because it can be undone faster than it was done?

Thank you for fixing it.

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Free OLPC for someone who needs it

2008-01-05 Thread Jesse Molina

I've got a free OLPC for someone who needs it.  It works fine.  I got it 
via the buy-one-get-one program.

I'd prefer to give it to a developer or someone who can actually make 
use of it.  Or, I could just send it back to the OLPC Project and let 
them reformat and redistribute it.

Even better is if someone with the OLPC Project could tell me of someone 
they know who needs one, and I'll ship it out.  My location is Arizona, 
United States.

Otherwise, send me an email telling me what you plan to do with it and 
display some of your contributions or other involvement in the project. 
  Convince me that you're worthy and not just going to pawn it off on 
ebay after a month.



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Re: Free OLPC for someone who needs it

2008-01-05 Thread Jesse Molina

A couple of extra things...

I won't decide for a couple of days, so until I've responded to the 
list, it's still available.  I'll go through whatever replies I get on 
Monday or Tuesday my localtime.

You don't need to give me your mailing address or anything until later.

I've only got one.  If you want to apply for an XO from OLPC directly, 
there is info on how to do so here;

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_Program#How_to_apply_for_an_XO



Jesse Molina wrote:
 I've got a free OLPC for someone who needs it.  It works fine.  I got it 
 via the buy-one-get-one program.
 
 I'd prefer to give it to a developer or someone who can actually make 
 use of it.  Or, I could just send it back to the OLPC Project and let 
 them reformat and redistribute it.
 
 Even better is if someone with the OLPC Project could tell me of someone 
 they know who needs one, and I'll ship it out.  My location is Arizona, 
 United States.
 
 Otherwise, send me an email telling me what you plan to do with it and 
 display some of your contributions or other involvement in the project. 
   Convince me that you're worthy and not just going to pawn it off on 
 ebay after a month.
 
 
 

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Fwd: Free OLPC for someone who needs it

2008-01-05 Thread John Deneen
Re: Moodle.org http://moodle.org/, TrustInEducation.org,
CroquetConsortium.org, and InSTEDD.org pilot testing, and community
partnerships with my associate * Budd E.
MacKenziehttp://www.trustineducation.org/budd.html
* (1-925-299-2010) founder of TrustInEducation.org in Lafayette, CA

Trust In Education is the creation of neighbors who banded together and
resolved to make a difference. At first there were five. Now the project
moves forward with the support of hundreds, too numerous to list.

Based on OLPC roadmap (OLPC News: Does One Laptop Per Child + *Moodle* =
Education?http://www.google.com/url?sa=tct=rescd=1url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olpcnews.com%2Fuse_cases%2Feducation%2Flaptop_moodle_education.htmlei=wN12R--sJaWEpATSoK1tusg=AFQjCNGBe0n5i435T0vCaKOAwlL4TjjMAAsig2=v7U0Zt0H6uur2J5Fs4PQMgand
* OLPC XS installation -
MoodleDocshttp://www.google.com/url?sa=tct=rescd=13url=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.moodle.org%2Fen%2FOLPC_XS_installationei=dt92R5qBKJzQpgTZpIFrusg=AFQjCNE7dM2GG-O4BZ0oQdxQ1BgAif4Liwsig2=mAQb-oflfvkSHlbL6fhO1Q
*), the free OLPC looks like an opportunity for giving to
TrustInEducation.org, including the TeleHealth
Moduleshttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/TeleHealth_Moduleand
database http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Telehealth_module_database (in early
development).

Since Jesse Molina only has got one, you might want to apply for an XO from
OLPC directly, there is info on how to do so here:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_Program#How_to_apply_for_an_XO

Let me know how I can help.

All the best,
-- John Deneen
*
*Imagine:*

   - *Food Force2* for the XO (See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Food_Force_2).
   Progress includes artwork (builds and villagers); next, the game model need
   more work to get a playable game. The code is in his public_git folder (
   https://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/murielgodoi/foodforce2;a=summary).
   Please contact Muriel if you'd like to help.

This game is under development. The objective is to enable the village to
escape poverty, ie to develop nutritional self-sufficiency and beyond
subsistence farming

   - *Cow power*:  Arjun have completed documentation of the project (See
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Cow_Power). The page details the current
   design and the proposed mechanical design. He is hoping to get
   feedback from the community on the proposed mechanical design before
   moving forward in the implementation of the changes.


   - *100x Video Microscope* - OLPCWikihttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/Microscope

$100 (now $200) laptops have potential to transform education in world's
poorest countries. Watch Mary Lou Jepsen
http://www.joeinc.tv/bio/bio.htmdemo of the $1
Video Microscope (three plastic lenses in plastic housing) as a laptop
accessory
for diagnosis of HIV/AIDs, TB, and malaria. Another possible example is a
handheld device connected to a TV. Warch 3 min. YouTube - 200x EyeClops TV *
Microscope* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQfTjJLVZY based on:

   - Jan 2007 - OPTOELECTRONIC APPLICATIONS: INSTRUMENTATION -
  Next-generation cytometers think outside the
boxhttp://www.laserfocusworld.com/display_article/282675/12/ARCHI/none/Feat/OPTOELECTRONIC-APPLICATIONS:-INSTRUMENTATION---Next-generation-cytometers-think-outside-the-bo

Shapiro believes that, depending on the complexity of the desired
application, it may be possible to use an even less-complex light source:
the LED. In various experiments he and his colleagues have shown that it is
possible to do single-molecule measurements with an LED-illuminated system
and CCD detectors (see Fig. 3)


   - Handhelds for Health http://handheldsforhealth.org/ based on the
  importance of the mother villager: Oct. 26, 2006 - Lab -on-a-
  chip devices for global health: Past studies and future
  Opportunities ( PDF http://mfgh.org/Chin_LOC_article.pdf)


   - OLPC planetariumhttp://howdy.physics.nyu.edu/index.php/OLPC_planetarium

   The OLPC http://laptop.org/ is the best platform ever devised for
   electronic support of by-eye astronomical observing. It is a low power
   device that can be mechanically powered by the user; it has an
   reflected-light mode in which it does not contribute to local illumination
   (so the observer can read the display with a red flashlight and it won't
   compromise dark adaptation), and it is light and rugged.

   Planetarium software is, in many ways, the killer app for the OLPC. It
   provides support for the real-world and zero-cost educational activity of
   observing the sky at night, but it also provides a fun activity center for
   students to explore the behavior of the night sky and the stars and planets
   it contains. Many important educational activities can be built around (or
   discovered within) a rich planetarium software environment.
   - TurtleArt Mandelbrot

XaoS http://wmi.math.u-szeged.hu/xaos/doku.php is an incredible program
that lets you explore fractals by zooming in and out in real time.

Galleries 

Re: A jabber hosting offer...

2008-01-05 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote:
 I've just received my, er,  my son's XO, and he's ecstatic with it, 
 enjoying fiddling with Python programs and other tidbits.  I've heard 
 that the Jabber 'chat' functions are disabled on the US XO's, mostly 
 because the existing jabber hosts can't really take the load of all 
 these machines going out.
 
 I have machinery and bandwidth available for setting up a dedicated, 
 fairly powerful machine specifically to run Jabber for the OLPC 
 community.  I have no problems building, configuring, installing, and 
 maintaining the machine in a colo facility in Bedford, MA.  I'll donate 
 the hardware and time to make it work, if it'll benefit the project.
 
 I'm looking at a dual-Xeon 2.8 gig Ubuntu Gutsy box (1U) with a pair of 
 mirrored drives.  The facility has multiple peered connections (it 
 supports a series of VOIP servers), and is well managed.
 
 I have experience running jabber servers, and sysadminning.  Would this 
 be of benefit to the community?
 
 Please let me know.  I can be reached on jabber at 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine too. 
 I'm also (obviously) on the devel list :)
 
 Thanks.  I do want to contribute to the project in any way I can...
 
   -dbs
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Some other people have suggested local Jabber servers, and I agree with
them. What I think would be really wonderful would be if someone could
make a LiveCD that would boot up as a Jabber server for XOs! It's a real
bear to configure one, and a LiveCD would make it feasible for
communities to do it.

I've been on the xochat.com server from time to time, and there are
sometimes so many people you can't really meet anyone.
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Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages

2008-01-05 Thread Iain (OLPC) Davidson
In the  community spirit of wikis and controlling spam., some thoughts come
to mind.

If the wiki spam gets so bad, that it it takes important time from
others How about the idea of turning on 'email confirmation required' on
new accounts, and/or account required to make edits ? (or at least, not
logged in users can only edit some Talk: and own user page??)

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On Jan 5, 2008 2:39 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ffm wrote:
  User blocked, all articles created by user deleted.

 Don't they ever learn that vandalism is pointless with
 a wiki  because it can be undone faster than it was done?

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Re: A jabber hosting offer...

2008-01-05 Thread drew einhorn
If we are going to have small local communities instead of one big one,
the we need to be able to contact multiple jabber servers, because there
will be communities organized by:

   age groups
   language
   xo activity
   geographic region
   curriculum topic
   and many more

the chances that all the communities a student wants to participate in
are unlikely to all be on the same server.

If we have large communities on big presence servers we will need more
advanced to filter My Neighborhood to show only the individuals we are
currently interested in.

Reading the Human Interface Guidelines in looks like multiple groups
are supposed to be supported, but for now it looks like we only have
one group Friends.

And it looks like currently the only filtering we have is pattern matching
based on nickname.

Or is there more there that I have not figured out yet.


On Jan 5, 2008 9:39 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote:
  I've just received my, er,  my son's XO, and he's ecstatic with it,
  enjoying fiddling with Python programs and other tidbits.  I've heard
  that the Jabber 'chat' functions are disabled on the US XO's, mostly
  because the existing jabber hosts can't really take the load of all
  these machines going out.
 
  I have machinery and bandwidth available for setting up a dedicated,
  fairly powerful machine specifically to run Jabber for the OLPC
  community.  I have no problems building, configuring, installing, and
  maintaining the machine in a colo facility in Bedford, MA.  I'll donate
  the hardware and time to make it work, if it'll benefit the project.
 
  I'm looking at a dual-Xeon 2.8 gig Ubuntu Gutsy box (1U) with a pair of
  mirrored drives.  The facility has multiple peered connections (it
  supports a series of VOIP servers), and is well managed.
 
  I have experience running jabber servers, and sysadminning.  Would this
  be of benefit to the community?
 
  Please let me know.  I can be reached on jabber at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine too.
  I'm also (obviously) on the devel list :)
 
  Thanks.  I do want to contribute to the project in any way I can...
 
-dbs
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 Some other people have suggested local Jabber servers, and I agree with
 them. What I think would be really wonderful would be if someone could
 make a LiveCD that would boot up as a Jabber server for XOs! It's a real
 bear to configure one, and a LiveCD would make it feasible for
 communities to do it.

 I've been on the xochat.com server from time to time, and there are
 sometimes so many people you can't really meet anyone.

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