State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008
Folks, First, thanks are due to gdesmott, morgs, cscott, dwmw2, daf, walter, wad, mstone, and Blaketh for contributing helpful updates to our U.1 bugs. If your name isn't on this list: shame on you! Update a bug! Next, we're blocked on testing results for: Packages Bugs --- q2d146245 5422 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1 6575 6707 olpc-library-core-1-23 6685 olpc-library-common-1-23 6685 Let's make an update.1-701 with these packages, take the necessary measurements, and call ourselves done if the 5 listed bugs are fixed. Objections? Michael Within reach - #6685 TSTsj (library bundle localization) #6245 TSTrichard (system firmware update issue) #5422 TSTrichard (boot even if firmware needs update) #6575 TSTcollabora (chat receives message but can't send anymore) #6707 TSTcollabora (probable dup of 6575; maybe new) Missing the boat - #6586 DBGdwmw2 (wireless scan failure, reproducible, dwmw2 on it) #6299 TST??? (salut backoff when gabble running), needs to be tested on a big mesh; #6170 ???uwog(shared write crashes) #6407 ???marco (Write crashes when sharing and add an image) #4153 DBGwad (connect to linklocal instead of schoolmesh) see also #5963 #5848 DBGmarco (network manager failure) Boat sank before arriving - #1407 ???dilinger(Touchpad recalibration should be forced under some circumstances.) #2804 SGNbernie (Cursor sometimes goes strange) #6050 ???uwog(Arabic is broken in Write) #5841 STK??? (spanish and portuguese keyboards) #6572 STKcollabora (key hash in mdns, new tiny patch, needs review) #6483 DBGmstone (read sharing broken) Important non-build related changes - #6716 DBGerikb (record fails to share audio) #6672 TSTbdoin (gnuchess gcompris in /home) #6673 ???Nat (tamtam broken in /home) #6708 TSTcjb (new pippy to deal with moved tamtam) #6689 ESCcscott (provide means to customize ~olpc/.i18n) #6475 FINmorgs (pull in new pippy required by salut changes in #6299) fixed in build-700, Pippy-19.xo #6521 TSTNat (tam tam has new translations) #5036 STKkreneskyp (Master build addition of Watch Listen activity) #4593 MSGkreneskyp (localization for Watch and listen, blocked on #5036) Key: ??? - status or author unknown TST - needs to be tested BLD - needs to be put into a build PKG - pkg needs to be built DBG - debugging/diagnosis still needed STK - stuck; a decision is needed about how to proceed SGN - a signoff is needed ESC - canceled or siginificantly reduced in priority FIN - successfully finished MSG - communication needed P.S. - ??? means that I don't know what's going on in a bug. Please fix this. Now. Thanks. P.P.S. - Some new reporting techniques that may be useful for keeping tabs on our progress: http://dev.laptop.org/report/11 - Bugs tagged release? with recent changes http://dev.laptop.org/report/12 - Details of recent changes to bugs tagged release? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Google Summer of Code and OLPC
No problem. Wiki now has a link. -- Charles On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Roberto Fagá [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try One Laptop Per Child :) http://code.google.com/soc/olpc/about.html Ooops! I'm a tired fool it seems. Sorry about the noise! martin ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #6170 ???uwog(shared write crashes) #6407 ???marco (Write crashes when sharing and add an image) #6407 is probably a dup of #6170. #6170 should be PKG. uwog is going to build rpms. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 02:39:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: #6575 TSTcollabora (chat receives message but can't send anymore) This one is fixed in the latest salut packages. Please ensure that you test that too :) (See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6728) Sjoerd -- Life is the childhood of our immortality. -- Goethe ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008
#5841 should really be fixed. The console in Spanish is hobbled without it. If we don't have an eloquent way to do it up stream today, let's target that for Update.2, but fork the patch today. If we can get 701 signed for testing out the door today, we can get 600 teachers test it for us next week in Peru... seems a good target. -walter -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Sharing behavior in the core Read activity
I am trying to give Read Etexts the same sharing behavior that core Read has, using mostly the same code. Until this week I didn't have a good way to test sharing, but I have set up multiple instances of sugar-jhbuild on one of my computers so now I can test sharing. My sugar installation is missing squeak and another module (sugar-meta-something) but seems to work OK otherwise. As a sanity check, I tried to share a document between the two instances using the core Read activity. This seemed to work OK, at first. I was surprised at what happened when I resumed the activity from the Journal of the second instance. If the first instance was still running and sharing the document, it looked like the second instance would download the document again and resume on the page where the reader of that instance had left off. However, when the first instance was shut down and I tried to resume the activity on the second it displayed an empty document with zero pages. This wasn't what I expected to happen. I had assumed that sharing a document meant that the second kid got his own copy of the document, which would be saved in the Journal until he deleted it. Again, my sugar-jhbuild has flaws, so I cannot be sure that the behavior I'm seeing is what is intended. If any of you could confirm or correct my understanding of this I'd be obliged. Another thing I remember reading is that if two kids share an activity and one has an older version of the activity than the other, the older version gets updated so they both have the newer version. This doesn't seem to be happening. I have two test machines, one running xubuntu with the sugar RPMs and another running Suse with sugar-jhbuild. I was hoping to use this alleged ability of Sugar to update activities in my testing, so I can develop on the xubuntu machine and test on both without passing USB drives back and forth. If someone could improve my understanding of this I'd be grateful. Thanks, James Simmons ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008
Sjoerd, This one is fixed in the latest salut packages. Please ensure that you test that too :) (See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6728) My TST designator means that the bug requires testing _in a release candidate build_. It's helpful and encouraging to know that the new salut package is believed to fix the bug in question (hopefully on the basis of strong evidence) but not adequate to the problem of giving Walter a single build about which we have precise knowledge. That being said, I should probably invest in a BLD designator for bugs which have software that needs to be integrated into a build before undergoing [integration] testing. Anyhow, thanks for the prompt reply! Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008
Bernie reported on Wednesday that new demands on his time make it impossible for him to commit to closing bugs on our accelerated timelines. However, it looks like a fairly simple packaging change is required. Either Dennis or I should be able to take care of it. We'll see who wins the race. :) Michael On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:31:12AM +, Walter Bender wrote: #5841 should really be fixed. The console in Spanish is hobbled without it. If we don't have an eloquent way to do it up stream today, let's target that for Update.2, but fork the patch today. If we can get 701 signed for testing out the door today, we can get 600 teachers test it for us next week in Peru... seems a good target. -walter -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance Mechanisms to achieve those performance goals are worthy candidates for a talk! --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
I sense that this is gonna be a looong thread C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance Mechanisms to achieve those performance goals are worthy candidates for a talk! --scott -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
Is still the plan for Update.2 to be about the most urgent needs from the deployments? Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is still the plan for Update.2 to be about the most urgent needs from the deployments? Perhaps I wrote the call for papers too narrowly. Certainly every stable release will continue to include fixes for pressing deployment needs, and those will continue to be priorities. But we need to look up from the immediate needs from time to time to ensure we're going in the right long-term direction. So certainly talks based on short-term goals and needs in the field are desired, but the purpose is also to stimulate discussion on long-term needs and planning as well, and then to try to find the roadmap that gets us from our short-term fixes to our long-term goals. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Switching between Arabic and French
One other comment, just a nit really: it surprised me that the mapping of I216 to [ISO_Next_Group, ISO_Prev_Group] was put into each of the main language files rather than once in the option file and then reflected in the rules as needed. This wasn't true for group mappings on my Ubuntu Linux box. Instead, based on what I see there, I'd expect an alias definition in whatever the olpc uses in keycodes (evdev?) and then its use in symbols/group. This was slightly earlier Now we've been trying to follow to use include group(olpc) instead of adding the mapping of I216 to [ISO_Next_Group, ISO_Prev_Group] in each file... regards Arjun ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib - lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page python stuff? Will the reference count problem will be solved in Python 3.0? Will it be released in the foreseeable future? C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance Mechanisms to achieve those performance goals are worthy candidates for a talk! --scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib - lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page python stuff? Will the reference count problem will be solved in Python 3.0? Will it be released in the foreseeable future? Can you explain what's that reference count problem or give any pointer? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Project Hosting request: ISIS
1. Project name : Incredibly Simple Interactive Storytelling 2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ISIS 3. One-line description : ISIS is a platform to develop interactive stories. 4. Longer description : ISIS is a platform to allow children to develop adventure stories or interactive fiction authoring system for the XO. The project uses python and pygame (with olpcgames wrapper) technologies. 5. URLs of similar projects : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/StoryBuilder 6. Committer list Please list the maintainer (lead developer) as the first entry. Only list developers who need to be given accounts so that they can commit to your project's code repository, or push their own. There is no need to list non-committer developers. Username Full name SSH2 key URLE-mail #1 robertofagaRoberto Faga Jr http://grad.icmc.usp.br/~dyw/robertofaga_rsa_key.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED] #2 avoine Patrick Hétu http://grad.icmc.usp.br/~dyw/patrick_id_dsa.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please attach them to the application e-mail. 7. Preferred development model [X] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be familiar to CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most projects. [ ] Maintainer-owned tree. Every developer creates his own git tree, or multiple git trees. He periodically asks the maintainer to look at one or more of these trees, and merge changes into the maintainer-owned, main tree. This is the model used by the Linux kernel, and is well-suited to projects wishing to maintain a tighter control on code entering the main tree. If you choose the maintainer-owned tree model, but wish to set up some shared trees where all of your project's committers can commit directly, as might be the case with a discussion tree, or a tree for an individual feature, you may send us such a request by e-mail, and we will set up the tree for you. 8. Set up a project mailing list: [ ] Yes, named after our project name [ ] Yes, named __ [X] No When your project is just getting off the ground, we suggest you eschew a separate mailing list and instead keep discussion about your project on the main OLPC development list. This will give you more input and potentially attract more developers to your project; when the volume of messages related to your project reaches some critical mass, we can trivially create a separate mailing list for you. If you need multiple lists, let us know. We discourage having many mailing lists for smaller projects, as this tends to stunt the growth of your project community. You can always add more lists later. 9. Commit notifications [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to the list we chose to create above [ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for commit notifications [X] No commit notifications, please 10. Shell accounts As a general rule, we don't provide shell accounts to developers unless there's a demonstrated need. If you have one, please explain here, and list the usernames of the committers above needing shell access. 11. Translation [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation commits to be made [ ] Translation arrangements have already been made at ___ 12. Notes/comments: This project is already hosted in projects/games-misc, but as games-misc has about 150MB of files (and many about 2000 files!), we want a git repository only for this as the project has less then 1MB. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
It is the problem that every page will be modified (and so copied) if it contains a reference count so the metadata effectively cannot be shared. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-September/006617.html Also mentioned in (point 9.) http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/community-news/2007-February/43.html Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib - lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page python stuff? Will the reference count problem will be solved in Python 3.0? Will it be released in the foreseeable future? Can you explain what's that reference count problem or give any pointer? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
Hmm, yesterday I executed free after launching some activities and got this results: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-March/004650.html Am I very wrong to think that we can save 3.6MB per python activity instance? Tomeu On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:21 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is the problem that every page will be modified (and so copied) if it contains a reference count so the metadata effectively cannot be shared. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-September/006617.html Also mentioned in (point 9.) http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/community-news/2007-February/43.html Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib - lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page python stuff? Will the reference count problem will be solved in Python 3.0? Will it be released in the foreseeable future? Can you explain what's that reference count problem or give any pointer? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity
Hi James, Another thing I remember reading is that if two kids share an activity and one has an older version of the activity than the other, the older version gets updated so they both have the newer version. This doesn't seem to be happening. I have two test machines, one running xubuntu with the sugar RPMs and another running Suse with sugar-jhbuild. I was hoping to use this alleged ability of Sugar to update activities in my testing, so I can develop on the xubuntu machine and test on both without passing USB drives back and forth. If someone could improve my understanding of this I'd be grateful. Yea, I'm not aware that this is implemented, just good intentions at this stage (such a great idea and only really possible on an open platform like the XO). Even worse though, as a new activity developer, the first thing I wanted to try once I got my new activity working nicely, was to share it and get some quick feedback – I soon discovered you can only see a shared activity if you already have it installed. So you can only really practically share the blessed selection of activities that you can assume another XO might already have installed, no 'viral' activity distribution model yet. Those kids better have access to an upto-date server, the internet, or spring some $$ for USB keys and start sneaker netting. The more I try to dig about in the code, and get involved where I can, the more I realise there is just _so_ much work required and massively too few developers to get the lower layers stable and robust for the target environments. From what I can tell, there's a very small group (in the single digit figures) of folks coding their socks off and trying to dealing with upstream politics. They've got an amazing amount done, all things considered. Just hope we can all hang in there, and contribute where ever we can, it's quite a bumpy ride. Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Interest in GSOC 2008
Hi, I am writing to express interest in the GSoC 2008 mentorship offered by the One Laptop Per Child association. I am a first-year graduate student in computer science at the Illinois Institute of Technology's MSCS program. My disciplinary interests include general topics in the broad field of computational-linguistics, social issues in computer science, open-source software, and programming in general. I have closely followed the development of the OLPC's mission to make laptops available to children around the world. In fact, I have blogged on a few opportunities on issues related to the OLPC's work (see herehttp://randomatom.blogspot.com/search?q=olpcx=0y=0and here http://randomatom.blogspot.com/search?q=one+laptop+childx=0y=0, for posts on these topics at http://randomatom.blogspot.com). In particular, I would be interested in helping further development in the areas of speech-synthesis/TTS, especially as concerns localization of languages and dialects, as well any general language-learning efforts at OLPC, including eSpeak (TalknType and Speech Server), among others. I completed numerous courses in Linguistics in my undergraduate studies in Anthropology and Latin-American studies at the University of Chicago, including a full year of introductory courses in semantics, phonetics, morphology, syntax, and other general topics in linguistics. I have also studied German, Russian, and Romani (a SE European language spoken by the Roma people), and am a native-speaker of Spanish, my mother tongue. In addition, I am versed in Java, and have programmed in C#, OCaml, C, C++, SQL, MySQL. I have used SVN on several projects, including as a collaborative version-control system. Moreover, I am currently enrolled in a course on programming languages and translators which covers topics in scanning, parsing, compiler design, and other topics of interest in language-related applications. In conclusion, I would welcome the opportunity to speak more about my interests in these areas, as well as to hear more about the OLPC's efforts in general linguistic and socio-cultural applications. Best, Alex Escalona vergueishon on IRC ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Interest in GSOC 2008
2008/3/21 Alex Escalona [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am writing to express interest in the GSoC 2008 mentorship offered by the One Laptop Per Child association. I am a first-year graduate student in computer science at the Illinois Institute of Technology's MSCS program. My disciplinary interests include general topics in the broad field of computational-linguistics, social issues in computer science, open-source software, and programming in general. I have closely followed the development of the OLPC's mission to make laptops available to children around the world. In fact, I have blogged on a few opportunities on issues related to the OLPC's work (see here and here, for posts on these topics at http://randomatom.blogspot.com). In particular, I would be interested in helping further development in the areas of speech-synthesis/TTS, especially as concerns localization of languages and dialects, as well any general language-learning efforts at OLPC, including eSpeak (TalknType and Speech Server), among others. I completed numerous courses in Linguistics in my undergraduate studies in Anthropology and Latin-American studies at the University of Chicago, including a full year of introductory courses in semantics, phonetics, morphology, syntax, and other general topics in linguistics. I have also studied German, Russian, and Romani (a SE European language spoken by the Roma people), and am a native-speaker of Spanish, my mother tongue. In addition, I am versed in Java, and have programmed in C#, OCaml, C, C++, SQL, MySQL. I have used SVN on several projects, including as a collaborative version-control system. Moreover, I am currently enrolled in a course on programming languages and translators which covers topics in scanning, parsing, compiler design, and other topics of interest in language-related applications. In conclusion, I would welcome the opportunity to speak more about my interests in these areas, as well as to hear more about the OLPC's efforts in general linguistic and socio-cultural applications. Hi, please consider joining us at the next sugar meeting that will have a special focus on TTS: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-March/004624.html Would be good if you could add to the topics in the wiki page mentioned there. Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Interest in GSOC 2008
Thanks for the reply, Tomeu. I will be sure to contribute to the topics to the best of my ability. I'm looking forward to the meeting, as well as to helping advance OLPC's mission, however possible. Best, Alex On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/21 Alex Escalona [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am writing to express interest in the GSoC 2008 mentorship offered by the One Laptop Per Child association. I am a first-year graduate student in computer science at the Illinois Institute of Technology's MSCS program. My disciplinary interests include general topics in the broad field of computational-linguistics, social issues in computer science, open-source software, and programming in general. I have closely followed the development of the OLPC's mission to make laptops available to children around the world. In fact, I have blogged on a few opportunities on issues related to the OLPC's work (see here and here, for posts on these topics at http://randomatom.blogspot.com). In particular, I would be interested in helping further development in the areas of speech-synthesis/TTS, especially as concerns localization of languages and dialects, as well any general language-learning efforts at OLPC, including eSpeak (TalknType and Speech Server), among others. I completed numerous courses in Linguistics in my undergraduate studies in Anthropology and Latin-American studies at the University of Chicago, including a full year of introductory courses in semantics, phonetics, morphology, syntax, and other general topics in linguistics. I have also studied German, Russian, and Romani (a SE European language spoken by the Roma people), and am a native-speaker of Spanish, my mother tongue. In addition, I am versed in Java, and have programmed in C#, OCaml, C, C++, SQL, MySQL. I have used SVN on several projects, including as a collaborative version-control system. Moreover, I am currently enrolled in a course on programming languages and translators which covers topics in scanning, parsing, compiler design, and other topics of interest in language-related applications. In conclusion, I would welcome the opportunity to speak more about my interests in these areas, as well as to hear more about the OLPC's efforts in general linguistic and socio-cultural applications. Hi, please consider joining us at the next sugar meeting that will have a special focus on TTS: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-March/004624.html Would be good if you could add to the topics in the wiki page mentioned there. Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 1788
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1788 Changes in build 1788 from build: 1784 Size delta: 0.27M -eject 2.1.5-6.fc7 +eject 2.1.5-7.fc7 -espeak 1.31-4.fc7 +espeak 1.31-5.fc7 -gtk2 2.10.14-3.fc7 +gtk2 2.10.14-4.fc7 -krb5-libs 1.6.1-8.fc7 +krb5-libs 1.6.1-9.fc7 -libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 +libdhcp 1.24-6.fc7 -libnl 1.0-0.10.pre5.4 +libnl 1.1-1.fc7 --- Changes for eject 2.1.5-7.fc7 from 2.1.5-6.fc7 --- + Rewriten patch for removable flag + Resolves #437362 --- Changes for espeak 1.31-5.fc7 from 1.31-4.fc7 --- + Export ESPEAK_DATA_PATH in %build to allow proper compilation of voice dictionaries --- Changes for gtk2 2.10.14-4.fc7 from 2.10.14-3.fc7 --- + Only validate an icon cache when debugging (gnome.org #476342) --- Changes for libdhcp 1.24-6.fc7 from 1.24-4.fc7 --- + Update for libnl 1.1 + Update License tag to GPLv2 --- Changes for libnl 1.1-1.fc7 from 1.0-0.10.pre5.4 --- + Update to version 1.1 + Handle removal of include/linux/ip_mp_alg.h in 2.6.24 + devel package should require kernel-headers + Add dist tag to revision + Update to -pre8 + fixes (rh #401761) -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New faster build 1788
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1788 Changes in build 1788 from build: 1785 Size delta: 0.39M -eject 2.1.5-6.fc7 +eject 2.1.5-7.fc7 -espeak 1.31-4.fc7 +espeak 1.31-5.fc7 -gtk2 2.10.14-3.fc7 +gtk2 2.10.14-4.fc7 -krb5-libs 1.6.1-8.fc7 +krb5-libs 1.6.1-9.fc7 -libdhcp 1.24-4.fc7 +libdhcp 1.24-6.fc7 -libnl 1.0-0.10.pre5.4 +libnl 1.1-1.fc7 --- Changes for eject 2.1.5-7.fc7 from 2.1.5-6.fc7 --- + Rewriten patch for removable flag + Resolves #437362 --- Changes for espeak 1.31-5.fc7 from 1.31-4.fc7 --- + Export ESPEAK_DATA_PATH in %build to allow proper compilation of voice dictionaries --- Changes for gtk2 2.10.14-4.fc7 from 2.10.14-3.fc7 --- + Only validate an icon cache when debugging (gnome.org #476342) --- Changes for libdhcp 1.24-6.fc7 from 1.24-4.fc7 --- + Update for libnl 1.1 + Update License tag to GPLv2 --- Changes for libnl 1.1-1.fc7 from 1.0-0.10.pre5.4 --- + Update to version 1.1 + Handle removal of include/linux/ip_mp_alg.h in 2.6.24 + devel package should require kernel-headers + Add dist tag to revision + Update to -pre8 + fixes (rh #401761) -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/faster-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New update.1 build 701
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build701 Changes in build 701 from build: 700 Size delta: -0.13M -telepathy-salut 0.2.2-5.olpc2 +telepathy-salut 0.2.3-1.olpc2 -kbd 1.12-22.fc7 +kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 -sugar-presence-service 0.75.2-1.olpc2 +sugar-presence-service 0.75.4-1.olpc2 --- Changes for telepathy-salut 0.2.3-1.olpc2 from 0.2.2-5.olpc2 --- + Upstream release 0.2.3 + dev.laptop.org #6575: muc receives message but can't send anymore --- Changes for kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 from 1.12-22.fc7 --- + install olpc keymays for portugese and spanish in place + http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5841 + this needs to be fixed correctly upstream -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/update.1-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Maintaining Activity Packs
Dear devel, While drafting release notes for Update.1 RC2 (signed update.1-699), we realized that we need a good story about what we want the ecosystem of activity and library packs (for use with the customization key [1]) to be. The rough sense emerging from the folks I've interviewed so far (dgilmore, kimquirk, walter, cjb) is that: * activity packs are collections maintained by public maintainers * people running deployments are responsible for choosing activities that work for them and we should assist in this process * for the moment, any activity packs that we provide are just conveniences and advice to them on how to get started * however, we should do our best to keep authoritative versions of all activities we encounter and to encourage other folks to mirror this content * to the extent that we are able, we should record the compatibility matrix between builds and activities However, there are several questions that these rough thoughts do not yet address: * what assistance are we obligated to provide to deployments? * if we discover notable flaws (security, legal, objectionable content) in bundles that a deployment is using, what should we do? * in particular, whose responsibility is it to initiate communication of this sort? * (and others not listed here) Thoughts? Michael [1]: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
Mitch Bradley wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance I second that. Update.2 should be about optimizing Sugar and its dependencies, not adding new features. My 2 cents. -- Bryan W. Berry Systems Engineer OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Maintaining Activity Packs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Stone wrote: | * to the extent that we are able, we should record the compatibility | matrix between builds and activities Once upon a time, there was going to be a build called First Release to Service, and its number was to be 1. ~From http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles: Each activity.info file must have a host_version key. The version is a single positive integer. This specifies the version of the Sugar environment which the activity is compatible with. (fixme: need to specify sugar versions somewhere. Obviously we start with 1.) It seems to me that FRS ~= Update.1. It's all designed; it just needs to be implemented (and that's easy). | * what assistance are we obligated to provide to deployments? If OLPC is not completely daft, it must do everything possible to make the governments happy, so that they are most likely to recommend OLPC to their neighbors. | * if we discover notable flaws (security, legal, objectionable | content) in bundles that a deployment is using, what should we do? Communication and openness are the hallmarks of OLPC. | * in particular, whose responsibility is it to initiate communication | of this sort? What, you don't have a distinct relationship manager responsible for ensuring complete communication with each client? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH5EPgUJT6e6HFtqQRAgtyAJ9pLkQZZSwjSZjCya67PUqGHqpDpACgmpjv wpUiyhV4z9aTu1wOc/RbPGk= =bZuB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is still the plan for Update.2 to be about the most urgent needs from the deployments? Scott - what's the release naming scheme? What will the bugfix release post update.1 be called, versus the next feature release? Personally, have enjoyed using the major.feature.bugfix scheme in Moodle the last few years - people outside the core dev team understand it quite naturally, so I am planning to use it for the XS. After all, the release numbering is a means of communication between the core dev team and users/admins who want to decide whether to install the new release - will it bring new features? is it just bugfixes? is it backwards compatible? are the questions in their mind. I am starting at 0.2 and preparing now 0.3 (to match update.1) with is an incremental feature release. Bugfixes on top of it will be 0.3.1, for example, while I hope 0.4 will bring a couple of new features... and I will reserve the magic 1.0 for a release down the track that we consider to be rock-solid and having a consolidated set of features. A really well tested and polished 0.9.3 or so will become 1.0, the long-term-support version. We'll all go on holidays for a while, and then we'll start again with 1.1 being the first feature-add release towards 2.0 ... cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New faster build 1788
Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1788 Hi folks; I missed something along the line -- what's the difference between the faster stream and joyride? I guess I can switch from one stream to the other? thx, -- Gary Oberbrunner ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 1789
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1789 Changes in build 1789 from build: 1788 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned -kbd 1.12-22.fc7 +kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 --- Changes for bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + q2d14 this is an unsigned image + Version bump only. Identical to q2d14. For use in testing secure + upgrade --- Changes for kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 from 1.12-22.fc7 --- + install olpc keymays for portugese and spanish in place + http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5841 + this needs to be fixed correctly upstream -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC
Dear all, We are participating in Google Summer of Code again this year, and now accepting applications from mentors. We are holding the first of a series of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past, find out about applying to be a mentor or student, or to satisfy your curiosity. GSoC is a particularly good way for local groups working on cool software in different countries to get involved intensely in OLPC work over the summer; you don't have to travel to participate, and members of existing teams can apply to take up a specific project under an OLPC mentor. There will be a SoC mailing list for people who want to discuss details (which the accepted mentors and interns can use to discuss their work); I'll post again when that is set up. In the meantime, if you know people who * are working at or with a school using XOs in the classroom * have been working on XO-related development, or have submitted a project proposal in the past * are currently thinking about how to promote OLPC or support its mission in their part of the world, * have been actively involved in your neighborhood OLPC interest group, Please encourage them to apply to either mentor (if they have skills and time to help students develop their own ideas) or be a GSoC student (if they have a software / activity idea of their own). Mentorship applications are open now: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/mentor_step1.html Student applications will be open starting on Monday, for only one week. http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ A few would-be students have contacted me by mail or phone to talk about potential GSoC projects; you are all welcome to do so over the coming week. Cheers, SJ +1 617 529 4266 ps - feel free to translate this into other languages and pass it on to regional mailing lists (or post the translations as well to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past, find out Fantastic - I will be there to discuss XS stuff :-) cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On 22.03.2008 00:30, John R.Hogerhuis wrote: I'd agree with Mitch. Performance, or for us, UI responsiveness, the most visible and painful issue being start up time of applications is paramount. My 4-year old, with no cushy performant computer experience, loses interest in the 10 seconds+ it takes to load activities. Even the calculator takes seconds to load. Actions taken in the photo/video recorder do not sync up with sounds and are not proximate enough in time to the UI action. Given that there will be XO machines running Windows (I'm not claiming it will come factory-installed) it will certainly provide for lots of entertainment if Windows runs faster than the current Sugar+Linux environment. Sure, the official mission is “It's an education project, not a laptop project” , but that also means once somebody has a child-friendly UI for Windows with lots of education software working on the laptop, we will have to answer both questions about usability and speed. For that, it would be nice to know where/why most of the time is lost (UI/language/security/...) and whether the losses are unavoidable by design or just chances to improve performance which have not yet been taken due to time constraints. Regards, Carl-Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New faster build 1789
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1789 Changes in build 1789 from build: 1788 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned -kbd 1.12-22.fc7 +kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 --- Changes for bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + q2d14 this is an unsigned image + Version bump only. Identical to q2d14. For use in testing secure + upgrade --- Changes for kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 from 1.12-22.fc7 --- + install olpc keymays for portugese and spanish in place + http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5841 + this needs to be fixed correctly upstream -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/faster-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On 22.03.2008 02:09, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if Windows runs faster ... once somebody has a child-friendly UI for Windows You are going from if to when with absolutely no support from facts. Oh, I have seen the huge speed difference between the current UI/environment and a minimalist one (both on real hardware). That's sufficient to question the assertion that Windows would be slower (unless Windows source is really that unoptimized). I agree with John's concern and desire for better performance... concentrating on our users. But maybe a competitor runs faster is not an interesting conversation on the development list. This is the development list, not the sugar list. Technically, Microsoft is not a competitor of development, it only competes with the currently used OS and UI. I can't see another list fitting the debate as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Feel free to educate me otherwise. Regards, Carl-Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, John R.Hogerhuis wrote: I'd agree with Mitch. Performance, or for us, UI responsiveness, the most visible and painful issue being start up time of applications is paramount. My 4-year old, with no cushy performant computer experience, loses interest in the 10 seconds+ it takes to load activities. Even the calculator takes seconds to load. Actions taken in the photo/video recorder do not sync up with sounds and are not proximate enough in time to the UI action. The second thing is basic UI usability. The pop-around menu border makes the UI thoroughly unusable with the trackpad since focus is lost when you get too close to the edge. My daughter's frustration level shoots through the roof whenever this happens. Maybe that is fixed in a recent release, but the fact that the border pops up when you get anywhere near the edge frustrates my daughter to the point that she finds the trackpad is too hard to use [control]. Pretty much the laptop is on the shelf right now for that reason. I agree with this issue, there is a tweak that you can make to the config to disable this feature. I don't have it handy, but if you search a little you should be able to find it. David Lang Also on UI usability, there are far too many words for a non-reader to use almost all programs. At one point usability for non-readers was a goal, not sure what happened. If those two (albeit broad) areas were dealt with the laptop would come back off the shelf. -- John. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New update.1 build 702
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build702 Changes in build 702 from build: 701 Size delta: -0.14M -kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 +kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 --- Changes for kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 from 1.12-23.olpc2 --- + get the proper files. a wget of the the url resulted in a html file + not the expected gz file -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/update.1-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom
FYI Regards, Manu Manusheel Gupta Technical Consultant and Adviser One Laptop Per Child Inc. http://laptop.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Luke Closs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:27 AM Subject: Re: hello To: Joshua McKenty [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Joshua McKenty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke, Good to hear from you. (I thought it was OLPC laptop, though). What questions have you got? Joshua Hey Joshua, I've cc'd Manu Gupta, who is collaborating with me on this OLPC spreadsheet activity. (OLPC is the non-profit organization, XO is the laptop) So I'm kinda at a standstill on this project b/c I'm not sure how to proceed technically - so I'm hoping you can help here, based on the discussion we had at Northern Voice. As I mentioned in person, I've got events going back and forth between python and javascript via pyXPCom. This should work okay for most of the interactions I need to do, except one. (I'm not tied to the EventObserver, but it seems to get the job done - I'd consider using another mechanism too). The one thing where events will not work is when we need to save the spreadsheet. For instance, the user may quit the program, in which case my python method write_file() will be called, and I need to (synchronously) tell javascript to calculate the string that should be saved and give it back, so I can write it to disk. I don't think an event passing model (asynch) would work in this case. I've looked into how Javascript could define a XPCom interface, that the python code could call, but this seems to require additional steps for compiling that interface, and I'm not sure how I would end up packaging those into the sugar app. So basically, I need your help to figure out how my python code can make a synchronous method call to javascript to calculate and return stuff. Thoughts? Cheers, Luke ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
1789 - sugar does not boot
Once upon a time my OLPC laptop (G1G1) was reliable. No longer. I've been dual-booting it, by installing a recent Joyride build plus a recent Update.1 build. But the most recent Joyride builds do not boot for me: The symptom seen most often is that the circle of dots gets drawn, then the doughnut gets drawn, and then the system just sits there (it will NOT accept any input from the keyboard). If before booting I uncomment things in .xsession (for instance, the 'exec xterm' line), a blank screen gets drawn instead of the doughnut. After a bit, the blank screen disappears (reverts to the ctl-alt-F3 console) then is drawn again. [This sequence cycles over and over, forever.] Nothing helpful gets output to the console, nor to /var/log. I've now gone backwards with Joyride, and reinstalled build 1784. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity
It is a known problem that the Read activity doesn't automatically store a copy of the shared document in the Journal. Read has bigger problems. I haven't been able to get it to share the document properly in test after test. wad On Mar 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, James Simmons wrote: I am trying to give Read Etexts the same sharing behavior that core Read has, using mostly the same code. Until this week I didn't have a good way to test sharing, but I have set up multiple instances of sugar-jhbuild on one of my computers so now I can test sharing. My sugar installation is missing squeak and another module (sugar-meta-something) but seems to work OK otherwise. As a sanity check, I tried to share a document between the two instances using the core Read activity. This seemed to work OK, at first. I was surprised at what happened when I resumed the activity from the Journal of the second instance. If the first instance was still running and sharing the document, it looked like the second instance would download the document again and resume on the page where the reader of that instance had left off. However, when the first instance was shut down and I tried to resume the activity on the second it displayed an empty document with zero pages. This wasn't what I expected to happen. I had assumed that sharing a document meant that the second kid got his own copy of the document, which would be saved in the Journal until he deleted it. Again, my sugar-jhbuild has flaws, so I cannot be sure that the behavior I'm seeing is what is intended. If any of you could confirm or correct my understanding of this I'd be obliged. Another thing I remember reading is that if two kids share an activity and one has an older version of the activity than the other, the older version gets updated so they both have the newer version. This doesn't seem to be happening. I have two test machines, one running xubuntu with the sugar RPMs and another running Suse with sugar-jhbuild. I was hoping to use this alleged ability of Sugar to update activities in my testing, so I can develop on the xubuntu machine and test on both without passing USB drives back and forth. If someone could improve my understanding of this I'd be grateful. Thanks, James Simmons ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] via epia not supported in iso?
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC_XS_161.iso is not there jet.. Marten On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 03:30 -0400, John Watlington wrote: OK, so it is something to do with the kernel we are using, which is from upgrades, not the released one. I just noticed that we have both i586 and i686 kernels in the repo --- known to cause problems. I'll clean it out and spin a test build. Try using build 161: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#OLPC_XS_161 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC_XS_161.iso wad On Mar 20, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Marten Vijn wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 23:59 -0400, John Watlington wrote: Can you install Fedora 7 on that machine ? We can't support every old machine (although we don't mind if others help us do so...) Our current litmus test is support by Fedora 7. it boots, and installs (nearly finished) Marten -- Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl http://wifisoft.org http://opencommunitycamp.org ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] automation in build system
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 21:52 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: It is now. Sorry, we need more automation in our build system... wad If you get the chance later, it would be great to send out a Build-Announcer email for each new build like there is for the XO images. and somethink like a thinderbox to test builds, nightly and mails on errors. mvn -- Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl http://wifisoft.org http://opencommunitycamp.org ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] via epia not supported in iso?
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 10:23 -0400, John Watlington wrote: It is now. Sorry, we need more automation in our build system... ack testing.. C3: uncompressing linux OK, booting kernel - and halts there i686: is booting... kind regards, Marten wad On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Marten Vijn wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC_XS_161.iso is not there jet.. Marten On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 03:30 -0400, John Watlington wrote: OK, so it is something to do with the kernel we are using, which is from upgrades, not the released one. I just noticed that we have both i586 and i686 kernels in the repo --- known to cause problems. I'll clean it out and spin a test build. Try using build 161: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#OLPC_XS_161 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC_XS_161.iso wad On Mar 20, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Marten Vijn wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 23:59 -0400, John Watlington wrote: Can you install Fedora 7 on that machine ? We can't support every old machine (although we don't mind if others help us do so...) Our current litmus test is support by Fedora 7. it boots, and installs (nearly finished) Marten -- Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl http://wifisoft.org http://opencommunitycamp.org -- Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl http://wifisoft.org http://opencommunitycamp.org ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Web-based Management Interface for the XS
bryan wrote: If you do intend to build a web-based interface from scratch, can you use a pretty language like Python or Ruby to do it? Perl and PHP make my eyes bleed. Both Django (Python) and Ruby on Rails seem like great frameworks for rapid development. What is wrong with php?, there are frameworks like symfony that they are cool. However, I would like work in the design of a new admin interface, taking in mind your feedback and requeriments. see ya.. Carlos Ríos ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC
-- Forwarded message -- From: Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM Subject: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC To: OLPC Development [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sugar Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear all, We are participating in Google Summer of Code again this year, and now accepting applications from mentors. We are holding the first of a series of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past, find out about applying to be a mentor or student, or to satisfy your curiosity. GSoC is a particularly good way for local groups working on cool software in different countries to get involved intensely in OLPC work over the summer; you don't have to travel to participate, and members of existing teams can apply to take up a specific project under an OLPC mentor. There will be a SoC mailing list for people who want to discuss details (which the accepted mentors and interns can use to discuss their work); I'll post again when that is set up. In the meantime, if you know people who * are working at or with a school using XOs in the classroom * have been working on XO-related development, or have submitted a project proposal in the past * are currently thinking about how to promote OLPC or support its mission in their part of the world, * have been actively involved in your neighborhood OLPC interest group, Please encourage them to apply to either mentor (if they have skills and time to help students develop their own ideas) or be a GSoC student (if they have a software / activity idea of their own). Mentorship applications are open now: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/mentor_step1.html Student applications will be open starting on Monday, for only one week. http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ A few would-be students have contacted me by mail or phone to talk about potential GSoC projects; you are all welcome to do so over the coming week. Cheers, SJ +1 617 529 4266 ps - feel free to translate this into other languages and pass it on to regional mailing lists (or post the translations as well to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ Sugar mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
