Re: Testing summary - Saturday 4 April 2009

[Daniel Drake]

2009/4/3 Tabitha Roder :
> Bridge-2
> Trains crashing into each other rolling over each other and the tangle of
> train parts made it hard to play... is there a way that you can restrict
> next train to not come until a certain time length has gone by? or a clear
> debris option for bits of broken train everywhere? reset button?

Trains don't come unless you request them. If you don't want another
train yet, then don't press space or t.
There are some basic usage instructions here that you might want to re-review:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bridge

It has a long way to go in terms of being more user friendly, of course!

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Testing summary - Saturday 4 April 2009

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello

Found it hard to find the emails of the developers to let them know we have
tested their activities... can they put their contacts on their activities
page please?

Who was there - Uli and the girls, Grant, Callum, Brenda, Tabitha

Bridge-2
Trains crashing into each other rolling over each other and the tangle of
train parts made it hard to play... is there a way that you can restrict
next train to not come until a certain time length has gone by? or a clear
debris option for bits of broken train everywhere? reset button?

PlayGo-5
Seems to work well. Played against the computer and the computer won.

Cobble-3
Custom deck with any fields blank kills activity. Adding other items and
leaving fields blank does not cause activity to die.

Roadmap-3
Map of California came up, could move around easily.

x2o-9
Pre-made levels worked well. Everything worked as expected.

Thanks



Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Mikus Grinbergs]

>> joyride or not, it's simply not the case that "hardware
>> should work as expected".  :-)
> 
> Actually, the hardware should work as expected, but the software might
> not.  ;-)

I'm running ~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/20090403.img on my XO.
[I don't know it that was built with the correct repositories.]

When I try the Fluendo audio script - no sound.
When I try (static-linked) Mplayer - no picture; no sound.

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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[James Cameron]

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 04:58:22PM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote:
> right.  joyride or not, it's simply not the case that "hardware
> should work as expected".  :-)

Actually, the hardware should work as expected, but the software might
not.  ;-)

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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Peter Robinson]

>  > > i don't understand.  wasn't there just a thread yesterday or the
>  > > day before about how there are major XO-specific pieces (e.g.
>  > > suspend/resume, the dcon driver) missing from the fedora kernel?
>  > > what do you mean by "hardware should work as expected"?
>  >
>  > Yes. This isn't a joyride style build though. Its a Fedora build with
>  > sugar for the OLPC. See chris's follow up post.
>
> right.  joyride or not, it's simply not the case that "hardware
> should work as expected".  :-)

Well if that's the case I look forwards to seeing all your bug reports :-D

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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[pgf]

peter wrote:
 > >  > It is as far as I'm aware plain rawhide which means it will be sugar
 > >  > 0.84 with default Fedora power stuff using the new devicekit [1]. All
 > >  > the hardware should work as expected and if it doesn't please report
 > >  > it, either here or in the Fedora Bugzilla.
 > >
 > > i don't understand.  wasn't there just a thread yesterday or the
 > > day before about how there are major XO-specific pieces (e.g.
 > > suspend/resume, the dcon driver) missing from the fedora kernel?
 > > what do you mean by "hardware should work as expected"?
 > 
 > Yes. This isn't a joyride style build though. Its a Fedora build with
 > sugar for the OLPC. See chris's follow up post.

right.  joyride or not, it's simply not the case that "hardware
should work as expected".  :-)

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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Peter Robinson]

>  > It is as far as I'm aware plain rawhide which means it will be sugar
>  > 0.84 with default Fedora power stuff using the new devicekit [1]. All
>  > the hardware should work as expected and if it doesn't please report
>  > it, either here or in the Fedora Bugzilla.
>
> i don't understand.  wasn't there just a thread yesterday or the
> day before about how there are major XO-specific pieces (e.g.
> suspend/resume, the dcon driver) missing from the fedora kernel?
> what do you mean by "hardware should work as expected"?

Yes. This isn't a joyride style build though. Its a Fedora build with
sugar for the OLPC. See chris's follow up post.

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Re: [support-gang] 2PM EDT Friday: BRIEF Contributors Program Mtg (#olpc-meeting)

[sandra . thaxter]

Hi  I would enjoy mentoring -   4 projects - I'll pick some and email them out
 I can't get onto the /join #olpc-meeting   maybe it is because of my id  - I'm using sandrat as the session nameSandra Thaxtersan...@thaxter.net1-617-320-1098Apr 3, 2009 02:35:24 PM, support-g...@lists.laptop.org wrote:

Join us reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects today 2PM EDT (Boston Time) -- in 3.5hrs from now:  http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom:   /join #olpc-meetingAGENDA:* Which projects would you enjoy Mentoring?* Fast review of a couple of the latest (greatest!) laptop/project proposals:  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects  Austin Laptop Lending Library [Texas, USA]  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=36970  OLPC UK / Regional XO Laptop Library Proposal  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37030  Tux Paint, wireless, sugarize.so, dogfooding... [AUSTRALIA]  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37145  PaintWeb, Romania w MLanghoff [ROMANIA]  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37303  Malaysian Primary School Text Book Reader  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37326  Open Learning Initiative with University of Kwazulu-Natal, Durban, South Africa  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=37347* How we can support our Library Entrepreneurs to ensure their success:  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects#XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program_criteria* Your questions about FREE Hardware/Parts Returns shipping soon: (DEADLINE PASSED)  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-March/023916.html

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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[pgf]

peter wrote:
 > It is as far as I'm aware plain rawhide which means it will be sugar
 > 0.84 with default Fedora power stuff using the new devicekit [1]. All
 > the hardware should work as expected and if it doesn't please report
 > it, either here or in the Fedora Bugzilla.

i don't understand.  wasn't there just a thread yesterday or the
day before about how there are major XO-specific pieces (e.g. 
suspend/resume, the dcon driver) missing from the fedora kernel?
what do you mean by "hardware should work as expected"?

paul

 > 
 > Cheers,
 > Peter
 > 
 > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit
 > 
 > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche  wrote:
 > > That is somewhat helpful, but I suppose I was hoping for the XO-specific
 > > parts.  E.g. power management?  Does all the hardware work (leaving aside
 > > the stylus area, of course)?  Is sugar installed and if so what version?
 > > Does wifi definition work in the sugar gui?  That stuff.
 > >
 > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Peter Robinson  
 > > wrote:
 > >>
 > >> The Fedora F11 beta announcement is here
 > >>
 > >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg02103.html
 > >>
 > >> Peter
 > >>
 > >> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche 
 > >> wrote:
 > >> > Chris, are there release notes somewhere?
 > >> >
 > >> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:
 > >> >>
 > >> >> Hi,
 > >> >>
 > >> >> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
 > >> >>
 > >> >>   http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
 > >> >>
 > >> >> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
 > >> >>
 > >> >> Enjoy,
 > >> >>
 > >> >> - Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
 > >> >> --
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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Chris Ball]

Hi Carol,

   > That is somewhat helpful, but I suppose I was hoping for the
   > XO-specific parts.  E.g. power management?

This build is pure Fedora, so there are many XO-specific things that do
not work, but the build is still quite generally usable, and contains
Sugar 0.84.

We're looking at making a variant of this build including the XO kernel,
which will go most of the way towards XO-specific hardware working.
(But this isn't a long-term solution; we need to get our kernel stuff
into the upstream kernel for that.)

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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Peter Robinson]

It is as far as I'm aware plain rawhide which means it will be sugar
0.84 with default Fedora power stuff using the new devicekit [1]. All
the hardware should work as expected and if it doesn't please report
it, either here or in the Fedora Bugzilla.

Cheers,
Peter

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche  wrote:
> That is somewhat helpful, but I suppose I was hoping for the XO-specific
> parts.  E.g. power management?  Does all the hardware work (leaving aside
> the stylus area, of course)?  Is sugar installed and if so what version?
> Does wifi definition work in the sugar gui?  That stuff.
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>>
>> The Fedora F11 beta announcement is here
>>
>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg02103.html
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche 
>> wrote:
>> > Chris, are there release notes somewhere?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>> >>
>> >>   http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>> >>
>> >> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
>> >>
>> >> Enjoy,
>> >>
>> >> - Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
>> >> --
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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Carol Farlow Lerche]

That is somewhat helpful, but I suppose I was hoping for the XO-specific
parts.  E.g. power management?  Does all the hardware work (leaving aside
the stylus area, of course)?  Is sugar installed and if so what version?
Does wifi definition work in the sugar gui?  That stuff.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:

> The Fedora F11 beta announcement is here
>
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg02103.html
>
> Peter
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche 
> wrote:
> > Chris, are there release notes somewhere?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
> >>
> >>   
> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
> >>
> >> Instructions on flashing are at 
> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/
> .
> >>
> >> Enjoy,
> >>
> >> - Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Peter Robinson]

The Fedora F11 beta announcement is here

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg02103.html

Peter

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche  wrote:
> Chris, are there release notes somewhere?
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>>
>>   http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>>
>> Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> - Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
>> --
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Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Carol Farlow Lerche]

Chris, are there release notes somewhere?

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:
>
>   
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/
>
> Instructions on flashing are at 
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/
> .
>
> Enjoy,
>
> - Chris, with thanks to the SoaS and Fedora teams.
> --
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Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

[Chris Ball]

Hi,

Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:

   http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/

Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/.

Enjoy,

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Recompiling the firmware

[Guylhem Aznar]

Hello

I couldn't find a lot of informations about firmware recompilation.

>From what I've read, I think I can get it from
http://openbios.org/viewvc/?root=OpenFirmware

But how do I recompile it, to get a new .rom file ready to by flashed
? (the same question appears on Firmware_hobby_hacking on the wiki,
without any reply)
Do I need specific tools ?

I have the developper key for the machine I would like to experiment on.
Thanks in advance for any information

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Re: [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

[Dave Bauer]

>
>> Did you properly configured ejabberd as explained in Gadget's README?
>> You should have something like that:
>>
>>  {5560, ejabberd_service, [
>>  {ip, {127, 0, 0, 1}},
>>  {access, all},
>>  {host, "gadget.jabber.sugarlabs.org", [{password, ""}]}]},
>>
>> Your gadget.config should match these params.
>>
> AHA! gadget.config.
>

Fixed, restarted ejabberd and gadget but same error.

Startup of gadget says
2009/04/03 10:44 -0400 [-] Received SIGTERM, shutting down.
2009/04/03 10:44 -0400 [-] Main loop terminated.
2009/04/03 10:44 -0400 [-] Server Shut Down.
2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [-] Log opened.
2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [-] twistd 2.5.0 (/usr/bin/python 2.5.1) starting up
2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [-] reactor class: 
2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [-] Loading /usr/share/gadget/gadget.tac...
2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [-] Loaded.
2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [-] Starting factory

2009/04/03 10:45 -0400 [Uninitialized]  will retry in 2 seconds

Any idea how to debug?

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Re: XS Restore UI and account aliasing are ready for testing...

[Martin Langhoff]

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
>  - Setup a XS 5.2 and grab my development version of moodle -
> instructions here:
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2009-March/003126.html

There's a new series of patches with minor tidyups, recommended. And
an rpm, so if you want to play with it

 yum --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing install moodle-xs

The version at this point is: moodle-xs-1.9.2.xs2.45.g136e4d

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