Re: OLPC does end run around IP addresses
On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 04:03 -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: What I see the XOs doing is an end run around my concept of how remote nodes are supposed to be accessed. I believe 'ping' is behaving the standards-compliant way (192.168.1.0/24 does not access 169.254.0.0/16, and vice versa). Whereas what shows up in the XO Neighborhood View (and in 'olpc-xos') appears to ignore standards-compliance. Surely all your machines can communicate quite happily using IPv6 link-local addresses? Why this fascination with Legacy IP? -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.com Intel Corporation ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC does end run around IP addresses
Surely all your machines can communicate quite happily using IPv6 link-local addresses? Why this fascination with Legacy IP? Because none of my facilities (including my desktops) are set up to use IPv6. More to the point -- I have an emotional prejudice against IPv6 -- I am NOT looking forward to the day when my refrigerator has its own IPv6 address, and reports to third parties how much beer I have downed. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC does end run around IP addresses
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 09:02 -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Because none of my facilities (including my desktops) are set up to use IPv6. If you're running any recent OS, I strongly suspect you'll find that they are. More to the point -- I have an emotional prejudice against IPv6 -- I am NOT looking forward to the day when my refrigerator has its own IPv6 address, and reports to third parties how much beer I have downed. Nothing prevents it from doing that with Legacy IP either :) -- David WoodhouseOpen Source Technology Centre david.woodho...@intel.com Intel Corporation ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New release of F11 for the XO-1 - Build11
yuan wrote: BTW, with the rotation bug fixed, I noticed that the Browser (and Firefox) activity do respect the screen orientation such that the cursor keys are rotated. It's also a bit un-natural that the game buttons doesn't rotate the page up/down mappings. However, for 90 and 270 degree orientation, the cursor key mapping are in wrong parity, while it's correct for 0 and 180 degree. Where should I issue this bug? system or activity? this sounds like a bug i fixed a while ago in olpc-kbdshim, but maybe something has been dropped along the way. the problem was that in the F9-based XO-1 releases, the xrandr command caused the screen to rotate in the wrong direction, but no one really noticed, and the code that controls the rotation simply adapted. with F11, X11 changed, and old user-level code now does the wrong thing. what version of olpc-kdbshim package is installed on this release? from the logs, version 8-1 should have the fix. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
gitorious and uploading public key
Hi everyone, Earlier I successfully uploaded a public ssh key to git.sugarlabs.org. But then I decided to change key pairs, created a new set, and then tried to upload a the new one. I'm getting the following message: This sshkey is being created, it will be ready pretty soon I came back a day later. Still no joy. Tried again, same response. Any suggestions? George ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gitorious and uploading public key
Hi George. (adding sugar-devel to cc) It happen to me also, the solution (IIRC) then was wait, wait, wait. cheers. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:15 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Earlier I successfully uploaded a public ssh key to git.sugarlabs.org. But then I decided to change key pairs, created a new set, and then tried to upload a the new one. I'm getting the following message: This sshkey is being created, it will be ready pretty soon I came back a day later. Still no joy. Tried again, same response. Any suggestions? George ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:51 PM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: Yes this is timely. In the Pacific Islands power consumption is a factor, David - your message hints at some good knowledge. We need to narrow it down to concrete HW recommendations of stuff you are using in the field. Do you think you can add specific info at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Recommended_Hardware#Hardware_known_to_work cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
Hi Guys, There was the info dev list for low cost computing that came out and I found Aleutia through this. In Afghanistan we got some T1's: 1.6 Ghz Intel Atom (Fanless) 250 GB HDD 2GB RAM 10-13W Power Use Accepts 12V DC http://www.aleutia.com/products/t1 They also produce it with SSD based memory - so that should be less likely to die out in the wild. Also was told that we could get it with two ethernet NICs quite easily. List price $280 w/o drive. We get reseller discounts :) Visited them in London a few weeks ago when I was out for a couple days. Quite impressed. Even using one in our office for our local server. We have a deployment to Kandahar (very hot very dusty) coming up - will install nagios or something similar for monitoring heat performance etc. and send that data out. Regards, -Mike 2010/1/13 Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org: On Jan 12, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: List, David, Reuben, We are getting increasing enquiries what hardware can we use for an XS in a school with N laptops?, and frankly the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Recommended_Hardware is a bit slim on concrete recommendations. So I need your help -- I've added some info in the hardware known to work section, but I'd like David to put more info on the exact model of MSI Wind he's using, additional hardware, number of laptops supported, and any extra notes. Similarly, Reuben, I need more info on what hw the OLPCCorps crowd is using. OLPC purchased 30 machines for OLPCorps with the following specs from Logic Supply. These units are supporting anywhere between 30-100 XOs. So far the only bug report we have heard was the corrupted mnesia database SolidLogic Fanless Mini-ITX System -Mainboard: EPIA LN1EG 1 GHz and HP7 -Case: Serener GS-L02 Fanless Mini-ITX Case - Black -Memory: 1GB DDR2 667 RAM -HDD Standard: 160GB 3.5 Seagate SATA 7200rpm -Power Switch: None - Unit will be set to Auto-Power-On And anyone else that's running an XS (hi Hamilton!)... we need your hw profile and your numbers. Additionally, I've added a 'server sizing' section. It'll be great to get corroboration that the CPU/RAM to number of users match what you are using in the field, and whether your server gets in trouble when usage spikes. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: On Jan 12, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: List, David, Reuben, We are getting increasing enquiries what hardware can we use for an XS in a school with N laptops?, and frankly the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Recommended_Hardware is a bit slim on concrete recommendations. So I need your help -- I've added some info in the hardware known to work section, but I'd like David to put more info on the exact model of MSI Wind he's using, additional hardware, number of laptops supported, and any extra notes. Similarly, Reuben, I need more info on what hw the OLPCCorps crowd is using. OLPC purchased 30 machines for OLPCorps with the following specs from Logic Supply. These units are supporting anywhere between 30-100 XOs. So far the only bug report we have heard was the corrupted mnesia database SolidLogic Fanless Mini-ITX System -Mainboard: EPIA LN1EG 1 GHz and HP7 -Case: Serener GS-L02 Fanless Mini-ITX Case - Black -Memory: 1GB DDR2 667 RAM -HDD Standard: 160GB 3.5 Seagate SATA 7200rpm -Power Switch: None - Unit will be set to Auto-Power-On And anyone else that's running an XS (hi Hamilton!)... we need your hw profile and your numbers. Additionally, I've added a 'server sizing' section. It'll be great to get corroboration that the CPU/RAM to number of users match what you are using in the field, and whether your server gets in trouble when usage spikes. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel We have looked at two machines. The Fit PC and the Fit PC2. Both were for small deployments (25 units). The Fit PC: 500MHz Geode, with 512MB RAM. Full specs at http://www.fit-pc.com/fit-pc1/whats-new.html Power consumption at the AC/DC powerbrick = 8W Stays warm to the touch (104 F in 72 F ambient temp) We replaced the factory installed drive with a 64GB SSD. The Fit PC2: 1.6 GHz Atom, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 6 ports, etc. Full specs at http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ Power consumption at the AC/DC powerbrick = 15W Gets hot to the touch. We've installed XS 0.6 on both machines successfully. The FitPC2 does have some reboot issues (hangs) so we didn't send it to Madagascar. We have the FitPC in the field in Maroantsetra, Madagascar, but isn't being used much due to other issues (lack of tech expertise in the field). We'll know more about the behavior of these once Ben (cc'd) has had a run of tests on these machines later this month. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Center for Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
The Fit PC2 and the unit previously described for OLPCorps were both tested for use in the OLPCorps and the FitPC2 failed heat tests where the other unit passed. Reuben On Jan 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: The Fit PC2: 1.6 GHz Atom, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 6 ports, etc. Full specs at http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ Power consumption at the AC/DC powerbrick = 15W Gets hot to the touch. We've installed XS 0.6 on both machines successfully. The FitPC2 does have some reboot issues (hangs) so we didn't send it to Madagascar. We have the FitPC in the field in Maroantsetra, Madagascar, but isn't being used much due to other issues (lack of tech expertise in the field). We'll know more about the behavior of these once Ben (cc'd) has had a run of tests on these machines later this month. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
We have looked at two machines. The Fit PC and the Fit PC2. Both were for small deployments (25 units). The Fit PC: 500MHz Geode, with 512MB RAM. Full specs at http://www.fit-pc.com/fit-pc1/whats-new.html Power consumption at the AC/DC powerbrick = 8W Stays warm to the touch (104 F in 72 F ambient temp) We replaced the factory installed drive with a 64GB SSD. The Fit PC2: 1.6 GHz Atom, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 6 ports, etc. Full specs at http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ Power consumption at the AC/DC powerbrick = 15W Gets hot to the touch. We've installed XS 0.6 on both machines successfully. The FitPC2 does have some reboot issues (hangs) so we didn't send it to Madagascar. We have the FitPC in the field in Maroantsetra, Madagascar, but isn't being used much due to other issues (lack of tech expertise in the field). We'll know more about the behavior of these once Ben (cc'd) has had a run of tests on these machines later this month. The Fit-PC is very close in specs to the XO-1. I have one which I use as a firewall/gateway. It has similar limitations to the XO especially WRT memory. The Fit-PC2i looks interesting as it re-introducing the second ethernet port and can have more ram. It also has wifi so you can have a WAN port, a LAN port as well as using it as a wifi AP. Peter ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel As I remember it, Sameer and I were UNABLE to make use of the fitPC2's wifi as an AP to provide connectivity to the XO's. Have you been able to make it work in this way? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
Will do. The one in the attachment is no longer available, the PNG one Chandana Silva of Divine Word University is more relevant. Will post up the numbers if he can send them. David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link http://www.leeming-consulting.com -Original Message- From: Martin Langhoff [mailto:martin.langh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2010 1:04 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: Reuben K. Caron; XS Devel; Hamilton Chua; Phill Hardstaff; Ian Thomson; Pia Waugh; Pia Waugh; Chandana Silva; Rangan Srikhanta Subject: Re: We need: examples of XS hardware in use -- On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:51 PM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: Yes this is timely. In the Pacific Islands power consumption is a factor, David - your message hints at some good knowledge. We need to narrow it down to concrete HW recommendations of stuff you are using in the field. Do you think you can add specific info at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Recommended_Hardware#Hardware_known_to_work cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
Hi, Martin, We haven't actually deployed an XS yet, so we are monitoring this thread to have a better idea what hardware we will use when the time comes for us to do a deployment. For learning/testing/training purposes we installed the XS software on a white-box PC with an Intel Celeron 2.67 GHz processor and 960 GB of RAM. It has a 100GB WDC hard disk. eth0 is the on-board ethernet and eth1 is a 3Com NIC in a PCI slot, with a D-Link AirPlus Xtreme G plugged into it. HTH, Ray - Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: List, David, Reuben, We are getting increasing enquiries what hardware can we use for an XS in a school with N laptops?, and frankly the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Recommended_Hardware is a bit slim on concrete recommendations. So I need your help -- I've added some info in the hardware known to work section, but I'd like David to put more info on the exact model of MSI Wind he's using, additional hardware, number of laptops supported, and any extra notes. Similarly, Reuben, I need more info on what hw the OLPCCorps crowd is using. And anyone else that's running an XS (hi Hamilton!)... we need your hw profile and your numbers. Additionally, I've added a 'server sizing' section. It'll be great to get corroboration that the CPU/RAM to number of users match what you are using in the field, and whether your server gets in trouble when usage spikes. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
