Re: [support-gang] Questions Re: Skype on XO
Skype was probably the second most requested feature, after flash, among G1G1 owners. I'm happy to report that both work _very well_ on the XO-1.5 running os11 thanks to the new Chrome video driver. Installation is a breeze even for the non-technical if you use Fedoraplus ( http://www.dnmouse.org/autoten/ ). You just need to yum install usermode first. The only problem I found in Skype is that the alsa-plugins-pulseaudio dependency brakes alsamixer. Not alsa just the mixer. yum erase alsa-plugins-pulseaudio remedies that and everything works just fine. Two way video conferencing or even desktop sharing! Unfortunately my XO-1's camera ribbon is loose again and after the 5-6th reattachment I'm giving up on this (any spare XO-1 anyone... ;). So I can not testify how Skype works with F14 builds. But with F9/F11 builds 2-way video crashed Skype and/or the system. What I know, second hand from user-reports, is that Skype video conferencing works on the XO-1, using XOpup (puppy linux for the XO). Given that the kernel/alsa/video driver is pretty similar with official builds it means that is possible in Fedora too. The Skype/Qt combo that is used can be found here http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/skype_static-2.1.0.81.pet http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/skype_static-2.1.0.81.sfs and my serve as guidance. (.pet is really .tar.gz with a hash) One additional (but unfortunately still second hand) info is that geode 2.11.9 appears to work better than 2.11.11 or 2.11.12 Sorry if it got too technical. Short answer Skype video-conferencing on the XO-1.5/os11 works fine. On the XO-1, I do not know but believe is feasible. --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] Questions Re: Skype on XO To: Luke Faraone l...@laptop.org Cc: Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, SugarLabs Testing test...@lists.laptop.org, IAEP SugarLabs i...@lists.sugarlabs.org, support-g...@laptop.org, Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT laptop.org support-g...@lists.laptop.org Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 11:22 PM On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Luke Faraone l...@laptop.org wrote: I'm not sure this is an apt question for IAEP. On 03/01/2011 09:24 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: I need to be able to do a 2-way video chat. I would like to know... 1) How much memory does Skype take up? Disk space: the RPM page is 18.7MiB, so I'd imagine it takes up a little bit more than that on disk. Skype also requires Qt to be installed. My static version of 2.0.0.72 takes up 26.5Mb. *snip* 3) What is the difference in performance between the XO-1 and the XO-1.5? I don't think that the XO1 supports the multiple XV surfaces needed to run skype video out. This has just been added to the XO 1.5 11.2.x series. 4) What is the reason for the difference, memory or speed or both? I think I have probably worked the most with getting skype running on the XO 1.5 platform, so I will try to sum up my experience. The most recent version of skype that I suggest running is 2.0.0.72. It has its quirks and problems but still uses the old codecs for audio and video compression. The 2.1 series introduced the Silk codecs that require much more CPU than the XO's have available. The video does now work with the most recent development builds for the XO 1.5, but there is still more tweaking that is necessary to get skype working. You need to do some specific configuration for both the soundcard and the camera to get everything working. I spent an hour or two pulling together all my notes and starting an RPM installation this weekend. When is your video chat and do you have any other computers available? You can e-mail me off list and I will try to help you out as much as possible. -Jon ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Wiki documentation updated
Hi, I've been working on the wiki content: Lots of obsolete content deleted, replaced with redirects or textual links to current information. Where the obsolete content describes strategy or non-obvious technical processes, I've left it in place (or put on Historical pages) as it might be useful in the future - but the information is clearly marked as obsolete with links to where the new info is found. Lots of duplicate info was removed, being replaced with links the the one definitive place where relevant. Some pages were consolidated too. I've written some procedures into emails too many times -- now they are wikified. Also, some processes that were only known in the minds of a select few of us (such as operation of mock.laptop.org, how the dropbox system works, etc) are now documented. I've documented how the current release process is working, and I've added source and maintainer info for all of our software components. Hopefully it is now a bit easier for new contributors to get involved on system-level development and release engineering. Pages with new, interesting content: Build System Image Builder RPM Dropbox Project hosting Release Process Release Process/* Frozen repositories Kernel dracut-modules-olpc User:DanielDrake/Yum User:DanielDrake/Language_packs Serial adapters Developers Developers/* Generic maintenance/minor updates: Taking_a_Joyride Joyride Emulating the XO Emulating_the_XO/Comparison_of_Alternatives Building_custom_images Releases Future releases USR_Checklist Unscheduled_software_release_process Release Notes F11 for 1.5 F11 for 1.0 9.1.0 Feature requests Feature roadmap What_release_am_I_running%3F How_to_check_the_OS_and_firmware_versions Updating the XO OS Images Builds olpc-update olpc-contents Mailing lists olpc-library Communication channels Developer key Debian initramfs Building initramfs Initramfs Developer mailing lists olpc-switch-desktop olpc-netutils olpc-bootanim PolicyKit-olpc olpc-runin-tests ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On 03/02/2011 08:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. So the activities weren't as shipped, right? Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. Perhaps you left the activities open, rather than closing them? I don't think having journal entries should slow down Sugar that much. -- Luke Faraone;; Debian Ubuntu Developer; Sugar Labs, Systems lfaraone on irc.[freenode,oftc].net -- http://luke.faraone.cc PGP fprint: 5189 2A7D 16D0 49BB 046B DC77 9732 5DD8 F9FD D506 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
os-builder: could we roll a 1.3.1?
Hi Daniel, I normally use v1.3 with a bunch of patches on top, and they are so useful I find myself telling deployments to use the same ones, and thinking I should roll an rpm to avoid them having issues cherry-picking patches and stuff. Should we just prep a 1.3.1? Together with my bios-crypto packages, this simplifies life considerably. The interesting patches I've pushed to a v1.3-pu branch. I think the first one is slightly controversial, I'm ok to drop it. oob_config_dir, oats and PATH patches are important however. custom_scripts: check that scripts are executable early on osbuilder: skip obvious tmp and backup files Define oob_config_dir env var and interpolation Ensure PATH includes /sbin and /usr/sbin base: bump initial disk image size to 4G oats_cfg: add support for setting the stream cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
Luke Faraone wrote: On 03/02/2011 08:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. So the activities weren't as shipped, right? This was the original set of activities. There is a separate column on the spreadsheet for the updates (3) which also worked. I wanted a benchmark of what is shipped stock. The XO-1.5 arrived yesterday Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. Perhaps you left the activities open, rather than closing them? I don't think having journal entries should slow down Sugar that much. No. I closed each one after testing. switched to f3 list view and started the next one. Did this all the way down list. Then did update from control panel and tested them. The Download of Darwin's Origin of the species.pdf and one picture, video (10sec) and sound recording from record may have also added to the load in the journal. But this is not unusual usage for someone exploring a new Computer. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
Hi Thomas, depending on various logistics, the laptop you received may havebeen manufactured a while ago (and have an old OS image on it). So I just received it is a good picture of the emotional state, but not of the software state... you gotta tell us what OS build is in it :-) cheers, m On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On 2 Mar 2011, at 13:34, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. Could you confirm low storage space was the issue? Perhaps some activity is being mischievous on exit and not freeing up resources? It sounds more like low ram, or a hung process eating CPU. If some activity is indeed creating massive Journal entries, eating large chunks storage space it should be reported as a bug otherwise it'll likely trigger many maintenance issues. One other possibility is a ram leak in Sugar, we did have one just prior to a release a year or so back, but that was discovered and fixed just in time for the GM (each activity launch consumed some memory that it didn't release). You could test for this by repeatedly resuming and stopping a simple Activity (I usually used Moon), while keeping an eye on top running in Terminal. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. The stars are for marking favourites (currently used for quick filtering from the Journal toolbar). There are a number of design mockup for a Journal with multi select support, using a column of check boxes and showing a new group operation toolbar seems to have most support last time it was discussed. It's a fairly invasive chunk of Journal work and last time this came up there were not enough resources to tackle it. Regards, --Gary There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 XO-1.5-Activity Tests.ods ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: One other possibility is a ram leak in Sugar, We believe there is one in current Sugar (0.84~0.92), likely related to neighbourhood view. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10386 Very slow leak -- but there. If you boot an XO-1 in a location where it can see many APs, and leave it overnight, the system is unusably slow, OOM kills activities, etc. Present on 1.5 but takes longer to be end-user-visible... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
xkeyboard-config map for olpcm -- upstream discussion
Hi folks, you're in the To list if you've been hacking on keyboard maps, variants and whatnot. Don't hide. I know it was you. Sergey (upstream xkeyboard-config maintainer) is helping get things sorted and upstream. This has been good as he's spotted quite a few inconsistencies and stuff, _and_ it gets us upstreamed. But olpcm is non-trivial, and he has some questions. Please join the discussion at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34732 -- specially from comment 6 onwards. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
H Tom. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) Regarding Maze what version are you testing? ..the ball should move with the arrow keys. I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Rafael Ortiz raf...@activitycentral.comwrote: H Tom. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) Regarding Maze what version are you testing? ..the ball should move with the arrow keys. Ah ok..I see it in the .calc. :P. please Test with latest version (8) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi Thomas, depending on various logistics, the laptop you received may havebeen manufactured a while ago (and have an old OS image on it). So I just received it is a good picture of the emotional state, but not of the software state... you gotta tell us what OS build is in it :-) It is on the attached .ods spreadsheet : ) Build 852 Firmware Q3A58 Sugar 0.84.16 Wireless;9.70.7p0 Cheers cheers, m On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: RE: [OLPC-AU] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
Hello all. I have just gotten around to working with this. I had success starting in Gnome, then connecting to the hidden network. And this kept when I switched back to Sugar. But, when I restarted, the hidden network was still hidden, and I had to do this again. Is there anyway to make this change permanent? I have tried the instructions on the wiki http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. What can I do? Again, we are running the laptops on version 10.1.3. Many thanks. Gerald On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.auwrote: Yes, this is correct. More recent OS builds have Browse and Firefox pick up their settings from the GNOME settings instead of needing to go to about:config. To do this, go to System - Preferences - Network Proxy. Sridhar On 1 February 2011 10:28, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Gerald, I am pretty sure this got to you from Trent but here again just in case and a copy for the list Hi Gerald I had the same issue with the hidden wireless networks here at Education Queensland. I have listed out what needed to be done below. To connect to the hidden wireless network itself I had to switch to the gnome desktop. From there you will be able to connect to a hidden wireless network. You will have to manually input the SSID of your network and the correct credentials. After you have made the connection you will need to do the following to ensure the browser will function with a proxy. Put about:config in the address bar in browse Scrolled to network.proxy.http and input your proxy Went to network:proxy.http_port and input 80 (this may be different on your network. You will need to check) Went to network.proxy.type and input 1 Hope this helps Trent Woods | Project Officer | ICT Delivery Team | Learning Technologies Unit | Information Technologies Branch | Department of Education and Training | Queensland Government | 347 Old Cleveland Road | Coorparoo Qld 4151 T 3421 6680 | E trent.wo...@deta.qld.gov.au | W http://education.qld.gov.au/smartclassrooms/mis/ This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author. If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer. Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and Training. Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and Training disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination. -Original Message- From: olpc-au-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:olpc-au-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of fors...@ozonline.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 9:12 AM To: Dr. Gerald Ardito Cc: olpc...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings I thought that something like this had come up on olpc...@lists.laptop.org if anyone can help Gerald, please do Tony I am trying to connect XOs in a school which as a wireless network with a hidden SSID. Additionally, the school requires proxy settings to establish internet connections. Can someone help me with this? Thanks. Gerald ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Graphics guinea pigs
Hey all, I think I have finally nailed down all the last issues with the chrome driver and am hoping some volunteers may help me to test before I include it in the next build. If you are brave and willing to bug me with bug reports grab http://dev.laptop.org/~jnettlet/f14/xorg-x11-drv-chrome-5.74.33-4.fc14.i686.rpm then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.5.conf and comment out the Option MigrationHeuristic greedy line. Then restart X Any questions mail me or ping me on #olpc-devel Thanks, Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
Hello again, I am just getting back to this. I have tried the instructions on the wiki at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. After making the changes, nothing shows up in the Neighborhood view. I had success starting in Gnome, then connecting to the hidden network. And this kept when I switched back to Sugar. But, when I restarted, the hidden network was still hidden, and I had to do this again. Is there anyway to make this change permanent? What can I do? Again, we are running the laptops on version 10.1.3. Many thanks. Gerald On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Dr. Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote: Jon, The school is in NYC, the land of hidden SSIDs. I will check out this page and try to make it work in the school. And, congrats to your grandma. Thanks. Gerald On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote: This wouldn't happen to be in NYC, would it? I remember reading a long time ago that the schools there have a policy that SSIDs can't be broadcast. You might deter my Grandma with that, but it's almost pointless as a security measure. http://olpcnyc.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/connecting-to-hidden-wifi-networks/ That workaround is likely deprecated now, though. If this is a newer image, one based on F11 then you should be able to use nmcli to connect. Take a look at this page. http://blog.nixpanic.net/2011/01/connect-automatically-and-immediately.html Hope that helps. My grandma would still hack it in 2 seconds though :-) Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:54:37PM -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: I have tried the instructions on the wiki at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. After making the changes, nothing shows up in the Neighborhood view. Let's diagnose that step a bit further, shall we? When using this workaround, nothing should show up in the Neighbourhood View, unless there are other XOs on the same network. If there are no other XOs on the same network, then nothing should show up. Instead, test using Browse. The page didn't explain it properly, so I've updated http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name Have you yet tried Jon's suggestion of nmcli? He pointed you at http://blog.nixpanic.net/2011/01/connect-automatically-and-immediately.html -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 01:05:59PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: Have you yet tried Jon's suggestion of nmcli? He pointed you at http://blog.nixpanic.net/2011/01/connect-automatically-and-immediately.html I withdraw that, nmcli is not present on 10.1.3. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 20:54 -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Hello again, I am just getting back to this. I have tried the instructions on the wiki at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. After making the changes, nothing shows up in the Neighborhood view. I had success starting in Gnome, then connecting to the hidden network. And this kept when I switched back to Sugar. But, when I restarted, the hidden network was still hidden, and I had to do this again. Is there anyway to make this change permanent? Fire up the nm-connection-editor before you reboot, Find the connection under the wireless tab, tick both Connect automatically and Available to all users. This creates a file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, forcing NM to bring up the connection on boot, before the UI loads and should be available in both Sugar and Gnome. You don't need to go into gnome to run the tool, in terminal: nm-connection-editor If you could send me the resulting ifcfg file from /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, I'd be grateful for the example. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
Jerry and James, Thanks. Both methods work within a session. In GNOME, I can connect to the hidden network. And, if I change back to Sugar, the connection is intact. When I reboot, however, while the Wireless Connections UI (iin either GNOME or Sugar using nm) shows the connection properly, it does not actually connect to the hidden ssid. Jerry, I have attached the file you requested. Looking forward to making this work. Gerald On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 20:54 -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Hello again, I am just getting back to this. I have tried the instructions on the wiki at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. After making the changes, nothing shows up in the Neighborhood view. I had success starting in Gnome, then connecting to the hidden network. And this kept when I switched back to Sugar. But, when I restarted, the hidden network was still hidden, and I had to do this again. Is there anyway to make this change permanent? Fire up the nm-connection-editor before you reboot, Find the connection under the wireless tab, tick both Connect automatically and Available to all users. This creates a file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, forcing NM to bring up the connection on boot, before the UI loads and should be available in both Sugar and Gnome. You don't need to go into gnome to run the tool, in terminal: nm-connection-editor If you could send me the resulting ifcfg file from /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, I'd be grateful for the example. Jerry ifcfg-xonet2 Description: Binary data ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:38:07PM -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Both methods work within a session. In GNOME, I can connect to the hidden network. And, if I change back to Sugar, the connection is intact. Yes. NetworkManager still has knowledge of the hidden network connection request in memory, having been told about it by the GNOME nm-applet. (Restarting NetworkManager at this point causes the connection to drop and not be re-established.) When I reboot, however, while the Wireless Connections UI (iin either GNOME or Sugar using nm) shows the connection properly, it does not actually connect to the hidden ssid. Yes, I agree. After reboot, NetworkManager is restarted, and therefore no longer knows about the hidden network connection request. The ONBOOT setting doesn't appear to work either. I've tested 10.1.3 and 11.2.0 os11 and adjusted http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#Hidden_Networks accordingly. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Graphics guinea pigs
http://dev.laptop.org/~jnettlet/f14/xorg-x11-drv-chrome-5.74.33-4.fc14.i686.rpm then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.5.conf and comment out the Option MigrationHeuristic greedy line. Then restart X runs finemikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:54:37PM -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: I have tried the instructions on the wiki at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. After making the changes, nothing shows up in the Neighborhood view. Let's diagnose that step a bit further, shall we? When using this workaround, nothing should show up in the Neighbourhood View, unless there are other XOs on the same network. If there are no other XOs on the same network, then nothing should show up. Instead, test using Browse. The page didn't explain it properly, so I've updated http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name Have you yet tried Jon's suggestion of nmcli? He pointed you at http://blog.nixpanic.net/2011/01/connect-automatically-and-immediately.html -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 01:05:59PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: Have you yet tried Jon's suggestion of nmcli? He pointed you at http://blog.nixpanic.net/2011/01/connect-automatically-and-immediately.html I withdraw that, nmcli is not present on 10.1.3. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
Jerry and James, Thanks. Both methods work within a session. In GNOME, I can connect to the hidden network. And, if I change back to Sugar, the connection is intact. When I reboot, however, while the Wireless Connections UI (iin either GNOME or Sugar using nm) shows the connection properly, it does not actually connect to the hidden ssid. Jerry, I have attached the file you requested. Looking forward to making this work. Gerald On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 20:54 -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Hello again, I am just getting back to this. I have tried the instructions on the wiki at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. After making the changes, nothing shows up in the Neighborhood view. I had success starting in Gnome, then connecting to the hidden network. And this kept when I switched back to Sugar. But, when I restarted, the hidden network was still hidden, and I had to do this again. Is there anyway to make this change permanent? Fire up the nm-connection-editor before you reboot, Find the connection under the wireless tab, tick both Connect automatically and Available to all users. This creates a file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, forcing NM to bring up the connection on boot, before the UI loads and should be available in both Sugar and Gnome. You don't need to go into gnome to run the tool, in terminal: nm-connection-editor If you could send me the resulting ifcfg file from /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, I'd be grateful for the example. Jerry ifcfg-xonet2 Description: Binary data ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:38:07PM -0500, Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: Both methods work within a session. In GNOME, I can connect to the hidden network. And, if I change back to Sugar, the connection is intact. Yes. NetworkManager still has knowledge of the hidden network connection request in memory, having been told about it by the GNOME nm-applet. (Restarting NetworkManager at this point causes the connection to drop and not be re-established.) When I reboot, however, while the Wireless Connections UI (iin either GNOME or Sugar using nm) shows the connection properly, it does not actually connect to the hidden ssid. Yes, I agree. After reboot, NetworkManager is restarted, and therefore no longer knows about the hidden network connection request. The ONBOOT setting doesn't appear to work either. I've tested 10.1.3 and 11.2.0 os11 and adjusted http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#Hidden_Networks accordingly. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
