Re: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread James Cameron
Juan,

There are many tools and methods to test with, to find the cause of
the problem.  You should be able to use all tools, otherwise it is
more difficult for us to help you.

Test with a developer key, and then remove it before returning the
laptop to child.

The developer key can be used on a USB drive, with an activated laptop,
without disabling security.

So please do apply for a developer key for these two laptops.  Send me
the laptops.dat file by e-mail.  I may be able to give you a key with
limited duration (e.g. 14 days).

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collection_stick shows the process to use.

Once you have unlocked laptop, I can lead you through some more tests:

- check the antennas and cable, using
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Antenna_testing

- check for a kernel bug we know about,
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12757

- update to most recent operating system build, (you can always put it
  back to what it was later, but meanwhile you learn critical data; is
  the problem caused by old build),

I agree with John's plan as well.  Based on your mail so far, this is
a problem with the laptop, not the software, but the software can help
to find the cause.

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RE: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
I have this problem with two laptops in this moment.

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835Bogotá - Colombia 

Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 18:11:50 -0300
Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
CC: devel@lists.laptop.org

Is this a problem with a specific XO or with all your XOs?
Gonzalo

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño 
 wrote:




I do not need upgrade to sugar 0.100, because I need have the XO with active 
security, really I need resolve this problem: the wifi have little power and 
not detected with easily the networks, I changed the network card and the 
antennas but did not work, besides  I installed again the operative system 
sugar no luck.


Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835Bogotá - Colombia 

Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:10:44 -0300
Subject: Re: WiFi Problem

From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org



On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño 
 wrote:





Yes, but I do not need it, I need the keys activated

Sorry, I can't understand. Can you rephrase?
Gonzalo
 
Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835
Bogotá - Colombia 

Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:59:42 -0300
Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
From: godi...@sugarlabs.org

To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org



You can request a developer key [1]to be able to install any new sugar version.
Gonzalo
[1] 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key




On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño 
 wrote:






The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate, the 
new system 0.100 do not have it. 

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835
Bogotá - Colombia 

> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: walter.ben...@gmail.com



> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
> 

> Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> 
> -walter
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
>  wrote:



> > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> >
> > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides  I



> > installed again the operative system sugar.
> >
> > I need help for resolve this problem
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > Ing. Electrónico



> > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > Bogotá - Colombia
> >
> > ___
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> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
> >
> 
> 
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Re: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Is this a problem with a specific XO or with all your XOs?

Gonzalo


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño <
juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I do not need upgrade to sugar 0.100, because I need have the XO with
> active security,
> really I need resolve this problem: the wifi have little power and not
> detected with easily the networks, I changed the network card and the
> antennas but did not work, besides  I installed again the operative system
> sugar no luck.
>
>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:10:44 -0300
>
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño <
> juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, but I do not need it, I need the keys activated
>
>
> Sorry, I can't understand. Can you rephrase?
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:59:42 -0300
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org
>
>
> You can request a developer key [1]
> to be able to install any new sugar version.
>
> Gonzalo
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño <
> juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate,
> the new system 0.100 do not have it.
>
>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> > From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> > CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
>
> >
> > Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
> >  wrote:
> > > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> > >
> > > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides I
> > > installed again the operative system sugar.
> > >
> > > I need help for resolve this problem
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > > Ing. Electrónico
> > > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > > Bogotá - Colombia
> > >
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Re: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread John Watlington

On May 5, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño wrote:

> I do not need upgrade to sugar 0.100, because I need have the XO with active 
> security, 
> really I need resolve this problem: the wifi have little power and not 
> detected with easily the networks, I changed the network card and the 
> antennas but did not work, besides  I installed again the operative system 
> sugar no luck.

Software confusion aside, now you have my interest.

You have tried using a known good antenna(s), and a known good card, and
still saw the problem ?

My first suggestion in a case like this is to replace the main antenna
with a known good one and retest.
The main antenna is the left-most one when looking at the motherboard,
and is usually connected to the right-most connector on the WLAN card
(labelled "Main").
The next suggestion is to replace the WLAN card.   If you've done both of
those and it still doesn't work well, look in /var/log/messages for any error
messages from the driver (indicating a possible problem with the SDIO bus).

Just about the only thing left to try is to measure the +1.8V and +3.3V at
the card socket while Linux is running, there could be something wrong with
the power switches Q29, Q37 and Q38.

Regards,
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RE: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
I do not need upgrade to sugar 0.100, because I need have the XO with active 
security, really I need resolve this problem: the wifi have little power and 
not detected with easily the networks, I changed the network card and the 
antennas but did not work, besides  I installed again the operative system 
sugar no luck.

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835Bogotá - Colombia 

Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:10:44 -0300
Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño 
 wrote:




Yes, but I do not need it, I need the keys activated

Sorry, I can't understand. Can you rephrase?
Gonzalo
 
Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835
Bogotá - Colombia 

Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:59:42 -0300
Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
From: godi...@sugarlabs.org

To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org


You can request a developer key [1]to be able to install any new sugar version.
Gonzalo
[1] 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key



On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño 
 wrote:





The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate, the 
new system 0.100 do not have it. 

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835
Bogotá - Colombia 

> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: walter.ben...@gmail.com


> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
> 

> Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> 
> -walter
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
>  wrote:


> > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> >
> > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides  I


> > installed again the operative system sugar.
> >
> > I need help for resolve this problem
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > Ing. Electrónico


> > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > Bogotá - Colombia
> >
> > ___
> > Devel mailing list
> > Devel@lists.laptop.org


> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño <
juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but I do not need it, I need the keys activated
>
>
Sorry, I can't understand. Can you rephrase?

Gonzalo


>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:59:42 -0300
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org
>
>
> You can request a developer key [1]
> to be able to install any new sugar version.
>
> Gonzalo
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño <
> juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate,
> the new system 0.100 do not have it.
>
>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> > From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> > CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
>
> >
> > Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
> >  wrote:
> > > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> > >
> > > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides I
> > > installed again the operative system sugar.
> > >
> > > I need help for resolve this problem
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > > Ing. Electrónico
> > > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > > Bogotá - Colombia
> > >
> > > ___
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> > > Devel@lists.laptop.org
> > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
> > >
> >
> >
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RE: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
Yes, but I do not need it, I need the keys activated

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835Bogotá - Colombia 

Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:59:42 -0300
Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
From: godi...@sugarlabs.org
To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org

You can request a developer key [1]to be able to install any new sugar version.
Gonzalo
[1] 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño 
 wrote:




The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate, the 
new system 0.100 do not have it. 

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835
Bogotá - Colombia 

> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: walter.ben...@gmail.com

> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
> 

> Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> 
> -walter
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
>  wrote:

> > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> >
> > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides  I

> > installed again the operative system sugar.
> >
> > I need help for resolve this problem
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > Ing. Electrónico

> > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > Bogotá - Colombia
> >
> > ___
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> > Devel@lists.laptop.org

> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
You can request a developer key [1]
to be able to install any new sugar version.

Gonzalo

[1]
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño <
juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate,
> the new system 0.100 do not have it.
>
>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> > Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> > From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> > To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> > CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
>
> >
> > Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
> >  wrote:
> > > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> > >
> > > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides I
> > > installed again the operative system sugar.
> > >
> > > I need help for resolve this problem
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > > Ing. Electrónico
> > > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > > Bogotá - Colombia
> > >
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RE: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
The system 0.98 is because it have security of OLPC for keys of activate, the 
new system 0.100 do not have it. 

Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835Bogotá - Colombia 

> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:47:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: WiFi Problem
> From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
> To: juancarlosgarc...@hotmail.com
> CC: devel@lists.laptop.org
> 
> Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.
> 
> -walter
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
>  wrote:
> > I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
> >
> > the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> > changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides  I
> > installed again the operative system sugar.
> >
> > I need help for resolve this problem
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Juan Carlos Garcés
> > Ing. Electrónico
> > Cel. 311 819 0835
> > Bogotá - Colombia
> >
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Re: WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Walter Bender
Are you able to upgrade the firmware and system? 0.98 is a bit old.

-walter

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
 wrote:
> I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
>
> the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I
> changed the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides  I
> installed again the operative system sugar.
>
> I need help for resolve this problem
>
> Thanks!
>
> Juan Carlos Garcés
> Ing. Electrónico
> Cel. 311 819 0835
> Bogotá - Colombia
>
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WiFi Problem

2014-05-05 Thread Juan Carlos Garcès Mariño
I have a problem with a laptop XO 1.75 sugar 0.98
the wifi have little power and not detected with easily the networks, I changed 
the network card and the antennas but did not work, besides  I installed again 
the operative system sugar.
I need help for resolve this problem 
Thanks! 
Juan Carlos Garcés Ing. ElectrónicoCel. 311 819 0835Bogotá - Colombia   
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Announcing another early Android build for XO-4

2014-05-05 Thread James Cameron
An Android 4.3.1 (Jelly Bean) build for the XO-4 laptop.

OLPC is preparing an Android, Sugar and Gnome dual-boot system for the
XO-4.

Our next development build is available, with the following changes:

- increased camera usage stability,

- respond to brightness keys on keyboard,

- several more apps bundled,

- support for OLPC English and Spanish keyboard layouts.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android
http://build.laptop.org/android/2014-05-05/

Note: the .zd file has the same name as previous releases.

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