Re: [OpenSIPS-Devel] Using OpenSIPS/MediaProxy infrastructure with ICE enabled - looking for feedback

2010-03-09 Thread Thomas Gelf
Additional note: I did not yet start my tests, but I already made some
captures and gave a look at the SDP body generated by those snom phones
allowed to use ICE.

It seems that they are still doing ICE as proposed in
draft-rosenberg-sipping-ice - and not as in the RFC-to-be mmusic draft.

The new OpenSIPS/Mediaproxy enhancement does not have support for this
legacy ICE variant, does it?

Regards,
Thomas

Thomas Gelf wrote:
 As I consider ICE one of the most exciting and underestimated features
 in the SIP world, I decided to dedicate ICE a whole test day within this
 week. I'll set up a dedicated OpenSIPS proxy, a single MediaProxy relay
 and make intensive tests using a few snom phones (370, 820, 870 - they
 all shall support ICE) behind different NAT types (symmetric and others).
 
 I'll let you know the result as soon as I have done so. In the meantime
 a big hug for all your effort and for your great software!
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 Adrian Georgescu wrote:
 If someone else has ICE enabled end-points, can test and provide us  
 with feedback about the success rate of the ICE negotiation would be  
 great to fine tune the software!
 


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Re: [OpenSIPS-Devel] Using OpenSIPS/MediaProxy infrastructure with ICE enabled - looking for feedback

2010-03-09 Thread Adrian Georgescu
We support the current and latest version, the version that is going  
to become an RFC (is now in the RFC editor queue).

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-19.txt

Depending on which previous version of ICE the device implement they  
may work or not only real testing can show.

Adrian


On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Thomas Gelf wrote:

 Additional note: I did not yet start my tests, but I already made some
 captures and gave a look at the SDP body generated by those snom  
 phones
 allowed to use ICE.

 It seems that they are still doing ICE as proposed in
 draft-rosenberg-sipping-ice - and not as in the RFC-to-be mmusic  
 draft.

 The new OpenSIPS/Mediaproxy enhancement does not have support for this
 legacy ICE variant, does it?

 Regards,
 Thomas

 Thomas Gelf wrote:
 As I consider ICE one of the most exciting and underestimated  
 features
 in the SIP world, I decided to dedicate ICE a whole test day within  
 this
 week. I'll set up a dedicated OpenSIPS proxy, a single MediaProxy  
 relay
 and make intensive tests using a few snom phones (370, 820, 870 -  
 they
 all shall support ICE) behind different NAT types (symmetric and  
 others).

 I'll let you know the result as soon as I have done so. In the  
 meantime
 a big hug for all your effort and for your great software!

 Cheers,
 Thomas

 Adrian Georgescu wrote:
 If someone else has ICE enabled end-points, can test and provide us
 with feedback about the success rate of the ICE negotiation would be
 great to fine tune the software!



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Re: [OpenSIPS-Devel] Using OpenSIPS/MediaProxy infrastructure with ICE enabled - looking for feedback

2010-03-09 Thread Thomas Gelf
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
 We support the current and latest version, the version that is going  
 to become an RFC (is now in the RFC editor queue).

Thought so.

 Depending on which previous version of ICE the device implement they  
 may work or not only real testing can show.

Unfortunately what they are doing looks more like the initial draft, as
written by the sipping-WG:

  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rosenberg-sipping-ice-01

There was also some post from snom on the sipping ML while alternatives
and better strategies have been discussed. Then finally Rosenberg
announced the new draft and explained the move:

  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg05449.html

At this point snom probably decided to no longer go invest development
time unless ICE is getting stable. And the following post (nearly two
years later) let's me believe that their implementation is still the one
it was at that time:

  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipping/current/msg08461.html

I reported my thoughts to snom, waiting for feedback...
In the meantime: thank you once again!

Cheers,
Thomas

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Re: [OpenSIPS-Devel] Using OpenSIPS/MediaProxy infrastructure with ICE enabled - looking for feedback

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Gelf
As I consider ICE one of the most exciting and underestimated features
in the SIP world, I decided to dedicate ICE a whole test day within this
week. I'll set up a dedicated OpenSIPS proxy, a single MediaProxy relay
and make intensive tests using a few snom phones (370, 820, 870 - they
all shall support ICE) behind different NAT types (symmetric and others).

I'll let you know the result as soon as I have done so. In the meantime
a big hug for all your effort and for your great software!

Cheers,
Thomas

Adrian Georgescu wrote:
 If someone else has ICE enabled end-points, can test and provide us  
 with feedback about the success rate of the ICE negotiation would be  
 great to fine tune the software!

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[OpenSIPS-Devel] Using OpenSIPS/MediaProxy infrastructure with ICE enabled - looking for feedback

2010-02-26 Thread Adrian Georgescu
Hello,

We have enabled the latest OpenSIPS/MediaProxy versions with support  
for ICE negotiation on http://sip2sip.info

We managed to obtain with our initial testing using Blink (based on  
PJSIP stack) directly connected RTP media streams between the end- 
points (by using the server reflexive candidates obtained from the  
STUN server) when setting the MediaProxy relay to low priority.

If someone else has ICE enabled end-points, can test and provide us  
with feedback about the success rate of the ICE negotiation would be  
great to fine tune the software!

The ICE functionality is described here:

http://mediaproxy-ng.org/wiki/ICE

Regards,
Adrian



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