Re: [SailfishDevel] Getting log from a thread

[szopin]

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's the moving stage, hardly anyone reads any development 
topics and it will take a while for people to move from this list probably some 
won't ever as they will not notice :( as even my very basic question didn't get 
any reply in 2 days, maybe jolla can rethink canning this list as it was a good 
source of answers in <48h if ever, there's definitely some talent subbed here 
that will most likely never migrate


On Friday, 31 July 2020, deloptes wrote:
> David Llewellyn-Jones wrote:
> 
> > I'm not fully clear on whether you're after debugging (e.g. using gdb)
> > or logging output.
> > 
> 
> I need log output. Debugger might be a next stage, though in that case
> wireshark and log output could help most. The problem is I want to find out
> why it is stuck, but it ain't logging anything.
> 
> > For debugging, you should be able to connect gdb to the running process
> > (as long as you know the pid) and can then access individual threads
> > from there. Something like this:
> > 
> > # ps ax -o "pid command" | grep msyncd
> > 4500 /usr/bin/invoker -G -o -s --type=qt5 /usr/bin/msyncd
> > 4504 /usr/bin/msyncd
> > 13063 grep msyncd
> > 
> > # gdb -p 4504
> > 
> > (gdb) info threads
> > Id   Target Id  Frame
> > * 1LWP 4504 "msyncd"  0xe9bd2da4
> > 2LWP 4513 "QDBusConnection" 0xe9bd2da4
> > 3LWP 4527 "gmain"   0xe9bd2da4
> > 4LWP 4528 "dconf worker"0xe9bd2da4
> > 5LWP 4529 "Qt bearer threa" 0xe9bd2da4
> > 6LWP 4531 "gdbus"   0xe9bd2da4
> > (gdb)
> > 
> > If it's the logging you're after, then the cheatsheet implies increasing
> > logging for msyncd should also increase it for the plugins, so it might
> > be worth trying something like this:
> > 
> > devel-su -p
> > systemctl --user stop msyncd
> > MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 msyncd
> > 
> > I didn't test this with OBEX though I'm afraid.
> > 
> 
> The thing is the OOP is started in a thread which runs the process, so until 
> I identify the process, it is already stuck
> 
> I start msyncd with EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/msyncd in the service
> # cat /etc/sysconfig/msyncd
> QTCONTACTS_SQLITE_TWCSA_TRACE=1
> QTCONTACTS_SQLITE_TRACE=1
> MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=128
> 
> This gives very detailed log, but for the OBEX OOP I see only "Starting
> thread ..."
> 
> > One final point: I think these mailing lists are supposed to be on ice
> > now, so people may not be following them so much. You might get a better
> > response at forum.sailfishos.org.
> > 
> > David
> 
> Really ? I was thinking forum.sailfishos.org is too new, cause no one
> answered my question on another topic there. May be most of the people are
> simply on vacation.
> 
> If you have an idea specifically about the thread, I'ld appreciate it.
> Thanks anyway
> 
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to show toast notification?

[szopin]

Whoops, seen it in quickddit and assumed it was silica, but it is actually 
custom made:
https://github.com/accumulator/Quickddit/blob/master/sailfish/qml/InfoBanner.qml
If your app is gpl you can just borrow it I guess, seems to work well enough.

Regards,
szopin

On Tuesday, 3 March 2020, Tamas Miklos wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Thank you for your help and pointers.  My confusion was due to the fact that 
> I couldn't place the DockedPanel into the right place after getting lost in 
> the QML's I've got in my app :)
> 
> AFAIK infoBanner is not supported by SFOS, but I've managed to come up with a 
> similar solution using a DockedPanel put inside my ApplicationWindow.  The 
> only problem is that when it slides above the main window content, the 
> opacity makes the alert text (Label) get mixed up with the text under it.  I 
> suppose I either need to put something under the Label in my DockedPanel, or 
> adjust the opacity of the DockedPanel to a higher value.
> 
> Regards,
> Tamas
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to show toast notification?

[szopin]

Hi, 

Maybe infoBanner.alert?

Regards,
szopin

On Monday, 2 March 2020, Tamas Miklos wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to show a quick notification to the user of my SFOS app after 
> selecting a certain PullDownMenu item.  The notification doesn't need to be 
> modal or have any buttons or require any user interaction.  Much like how the 
> Toast notification works in Android apps.  The closest I got to something 
> like that is showing a DockedPanel and then hiding it after 2 seconds.  But, 
> it would be great to achieve that without DockedPanel.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Tamas
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Image + text element, or a non-rectangular text field possible in silica?

[szopin]

Ok, so scrolling the whole panel is the way to go, thanks!

szopin

On Monday, 6 January 2020, David Llewellyn-Jones wrote:
> On 06/01/2020 21:00, szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Picture will probably illustrate what I mean easier:
> > https://i.imgur.com/IKyMnAV.png
> 
> The pictures are definitely helpful!
> 
> > This is a self-expanding TextArea as you type, but it will happily go
> > over the screen size and there is no way to get the text at the
> > beginning into focus, I'm probably missing some super obvious way to
> > avoid this? The only way I found to force scroll option was
> > hardcoding its height which is noy pretty.
> I could be misunderstanding completely (especially since you mention in
> your other email about it being in a docked panel, and I'm not sure
> whether that might affect things).
> 
> I think the usual way would be to place the TextArea inside a
> SilicaFlickable with SilicaFlickable.contentHeight set to
> TextArea.contentHeight (or possibly TextArea.implicitHeight or
> TextArea.height). If you include other stuff/padding inside the
> flickable you'll need to take that into account too.
> 
> You can then set the height of the SilicaFlickable to the height
> available on the screen to allow scrolling of everything inside it.
> 
> The notes app does something like this. It's not a great example because
> there's a lot going on, but it might help:
> 
> Line 160 sets the contentHeight:
> 
> /usr/share/jolla-notes/pages/NotePage.qml
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Image + text element, or a non-rectangular text field possible in silica?

[szopin]

Picture will probably illustrate what I mean easier:
https://i.imgur.com/IKyMnAV.png
This is a self-expanding TextArea as you type, but it will happily go over the 
screen size and there is no way to get the text at the beginning into focus, 
I'm probably missing some super obvious way to avoid this? The only way I found 
to force scroll option was hardcoding its height which is noy pretty.

Regards,
szopin 

On Monday, 6 January 2020, David Llewellyn-Jones wrote:
> On 06/01/2020 16:10, szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Picture will be helpful: https://i.imgur.com/knA9qZP.png Is there any
> > way to make the text start from left edge after the thumbnail ends?
> > Not sure if there is something that would fill remaining space with
> > text automatically, or if you can maybe hardcode the thumbnail size
> > and force the text field to extend left after x lines?
> 
> One way would be along the lines of your second suggestion, to use the
> lineLaidOut() signal to increase the indent for something like the first
> five lines of your text.
> 
> https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-text.html#lineLaidOut-signal
> 
> There's an example of this in the Messages app. When you have a draft
> message shown on the main screen, the first line of the message is
> shifted slightly to the right to accommodate a little pencil icon. The
> code for this is around line 150 of the file
> /usr/share/jolla-messages/pages/groups/GroupDelegate.qml in case the
> example is helpful.
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Image + text element, or a non-rectangular text field possible in silica?

[szopin]

Sorry for another basic qml question, but is there a way to limit a TextArea 
expansion in a docked panel? maximumLineCount doesn't seem to work and the only 
way to get scroll option for longer inputs was hardcoding the height from start 
which is not aesthetically pleasing, but at least allows one to edit the input 
after it would normally end up above screen.

Thanks in advance,
szopin 

On Monday, 6 January 2020, David Llewellyn-Jones wrote:
> On 06/01/2020 16:10, szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Picture will be helpful: https://i.imgur.com/knA9qZP.png Is there any
> > way to make the text start from left edge after the thumbnail ends?
> > Not sure if there is something that would fill remaining space with
> > text automatically, or if you can maybe hardcode the thumbnail size
> > and force the text field to extend left after x lines?
> 
> One way would be along the lines of your second suggestion, to use the
> lineLaidOut() signal to increase the indent for something like the first
> five lines of your text.
> 
> https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-text.html#lineLaidOut-signal
> 
> There's an example of this in the Messages app. When you have a draft
> message shown on the main screen, the first line of the message is
> shifted slightly to the right to accommodate a little pencil icon. The
> code for this is around line 150 of the file
> /usr/share/jolla-messages/pages/groups/GroupDelegate.qml in case the
> example is helpful.
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Image + text element, or a non-rectangular text field possible in silica?

[szopin]

Awesome, this will do nicely, thank You!

On Monday, 6 January 2020, David Llewellyn-Jones wrote:
> On 06/01/2020 16:10, szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Picture will be helpful: https://i.imgur.com/knA9qZP.png Is there any
> > way to make the text start from left edge after the thumbnail ends?
> > Not sure if there is something that would fill remaining space with
> > text automatically, or if you can maybe hardcode the thumbnail size
> > and force the text field to extend left after x lines?
> 
> One way would be along the lines of your second suggestion, to use the
> lineLaidOut() signal to increase the indent for something like the first
> five lines of your text.
> 
> https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-text.html#lineLaidOut-signal
> 
> There's an example of this in the Messages app. When you have a draft
> message shown on the main screen, the first line of the message is
> shifted slightly to the right to accommodate a little pencil icon. The
> code for this is around line 150 of the file
> /usr/share/jolla-messages/pages/groups/GroupDelegate.qml in case the
> example is helpful.
> 
> David
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[SailfishDevel] Image + text element, or a non-rectangular text field possible in silica?

[szopin]

Hi, 

Picture will be helpful:
https://i.imgur.com/knA9qZP.png
Is there any way to make the text start from left edge after the thumbnail 
ends? Not sure if there is something that would fill remaining space with text 
automatically, or if you can maybe hardcode the thumbnail size and force the 
text field to extend left after x lines?

Thanks in advance,
szopin 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

I'm probably totally wrong, but you can run all kinds of homecooked libhybris 
versions on a device without needing kernel recompiled, unless some specific 
kernel options are missing?

On Sunday, 5 January 2020, rinigus wrote:
> Re kernel options: USER_NS is one of them, rest I am not sure as it worked
> immediately for me on Xperia XZ2. As a result, I never looked too deeply
> into it.
> 
> Re libhybris: isn't it compiled against device specific droid-hal?
> 
> Rinigus
> 
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:37 PM  wrote:
> 
> > If it's only in libhybris, then it's not device specific? Which exactly
> > kernel options need to be turned on for it? Or I'm totally confused
> >
> > On Sunday, 5 January 2020, rinigus wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think that the patch suggested for libhybris is a bugfix. So, I hope it
> > > will be merged and distributed with one of the next SFOS updates.
> > Assuming
> > > that Jolla C is still getting updates, you should get it too.
> > >
> > > Now, libhybris bug is in the linker, as you can see from my PR. I don't
> > > know how device-specific it is, hopefully knowledgeable porters can chip
> > in
> > > and comment on it. If its not device specific then we can just package
> > the
> > > linker and use the rest as it is on device.
> > >
> > > Let's see what the next few days bring. I presume many of developers are
> > > back from holidays next week which could speed up the response.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Rinigus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:52 PM  wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's device specific? Shame, doubt jolla C can help then. Still hopeful
> > > > the eventual cosmo communicator edition will support it. Any hints what
> > > > needs to be enabled in kernel?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > szopin
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, 5 January 2020, rinigus wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have moved all repositories required for Flatpak support to
> > > > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak . Documentation is available
> > at
> > > > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main describing how to
> > install and
> > > > > develop using this environment. Issues are expected to be filed fixed
> > > > under
> > > > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main and, when appropriate,
> > under
> > > > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/flatpak-runner. I tried to
> > list
> > > > all
> > > > > current issues under those repositories.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have also opened a thread at TMO (
> > > > > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1564143) for those who prefer
> > > > that
> > > > > way of communication.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Rinigus
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:22 AM rinigus 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Excellent! If something in kernel config is missing, I expect that
> > you
> > > > > > could use Xperia 10 as a base to check the settings or for Xperia
> > XZ2
> > > > used
> > > > > > by me at
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/android_kernel_sony_msm/blob/hybris-sony-aosp-9.0.0-4.9-tama-sony/arch/arm64/configs/aosp_tama_akari_defconfig
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rinigus
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:47 AM Adam Pigg 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Ill build it on mido and try it out, thanks!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 22:45, rinigus 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have submitted PR to libhybris allowing to use Flatpak on
> > hybris
> > > > > >>> devices with the same version serving its main purpose and inside
> > > > Flatpak
> > > > > >>> sandbox: https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/pull/433.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> As soon as your device has such libhybris, you could
&

Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

If it's only in libhybris, then it's not device specific? Which exactly kernel 
options need to be turned on for it? Or I'm totally confused

On Sunday, 5 January 2020, rinigus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think that the patch suggested for libhybris is a bugfix. So, I hope it
> will be merged and distributed with one of the next SFOS updates. Assuming
> that Jolla C is still getting updates, you should get it too.
> 
> Now, libhybris bug is in the linker, as you can see from my PR. I don't
> know how device-specific it is, hopefully knowledgeable porters can chip in
> and comment on it. If its not device specific then we can just package the
> linker and use the rest as it is on device.
> 
> Let's see what the next few days bring. I presume many of developers are
> back from holidays next week which could speed up the response.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rinigus
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:52 PM  wrote:
> 
> > It's device specific? Shame, doubt jolla C can help then. Still hopeful
> > the eventual cosmo communicator edition will support it. Any hints what
> > needs to be enabled in kernel?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > szopin
> >
> > On Sunday, 5 January 2020, rinigus wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have moved all repositories required for Flatpak support to
> > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak . Documentation is available at
> > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main describing how to install and
> > > develop using this environment. Issues are expected to be filed fixed
> > under
> > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main and, when appropriate, under
> > > https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/flatpak-runner. I tried to list
> > all
> > > current issues under those repositories.
> > >
> > > I have also opened a thread at TMO (
> > > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1564143) for those who prefer
> > that
> > > way of communication.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Rinigus
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:22 AM rinigus  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Excellent! If something in kernel config is missing, I expect that you
> > > > could use Xperia 10 as a base to check the settings or for Xperia XZ2
> > used
> > > > by me at
> > > >
> > https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/android_kernel_sony_msm/blob/hybris-sony-aosp-9.0.0-4.9-tama-sony/arch/arm64/configs/aosp_tama_akari_defconfig
> > > >
> > > > Rinigus
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:47 AM Adam Pigg  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Ill build it on mido and try it out, thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 22:45, rinigus  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have submitted PR to libhybris allowing to use Flatpak on hybris
> > > >>> devices with the same version serving its main purpose and inside
> > Flatpak
> > > >>> sandbox: https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/pull/433.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As soon as your device has such libhybris, you could
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - use https://build.merproject.org/project/show/home:rinigus:flatpak
> > to
> > > >>> install flatpak, flatpak-runner
> > > >>> - run flatpak-extension-hybris to generate Flatpah hybris extension
> > at
> > > >>> user nemo's home (run as nemo)
> > > >>> - install flatpak apps, see instructions at Flathub on how to do it
> > > >>> - run them using flatpak-runner
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Many things don't work, but would be faster to get it fixed together
> > > >>> with other devs.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Rinigus
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:18 AM rinigus 
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> just finished the first version of a wrapper for 'flatpak run'
> > command
> > > >>>> as well, available at https://github.com/rinigus/flatpak-runner .
> > Its
> > > >>>> based on qxcompositor and it opens new Wayland server before
> > running an
> > > >>>> application, all explained in README. Device rotation is

Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

It's device specific? Shame, doubt jolla C can help then. Still hopeful the 
eventual cosmo communicator edition will support it. Any hints what needs to be 
enabled in kernel?

Thanks in advance,
szopin

On Sunday, 5 January 2020, rinigus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have moved all repositories required for Flatpak support to
> https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak . Documentation is available at
> https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main describing how to install and
> develop using this environment. Issues are expected to be filed fixed under
> https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/main and, when appropriate, under
> https://github.com/sailfishos-flatpak/flatpak-runner. I tried to list all
> current issues under those repositories.
> 
> I have also opened a thread at TMO (
> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1564143) for those who prefer that
> way of communication.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rinigus
> 
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:22 AM rinigus  wrote:
> 
> > Excellent! If something in kernel config is missing, I expect that you
> > could use Xperia 10 as a base to check the settings or for Xperia XZ2 used
> > by me at
> > https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/android_kernel_sony_msm/blob/hybris-sony-aosp-9.0.0-4.9-tama-sony/arch/arm64/configs/aosp_tama_akari_defconfig
> >
> > Rinigus
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:47 AM Adam Pigg  wrote:
> >
> >> Ill build it on mido and try it out, thanks!
> >>
> >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 22:45, rinigus  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have submitted PR to libhybris allowing to use Flatpak on hybris
> >>> devices with the same version serving its main purpose and inside Flatpak
> >>> sandbox: https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/pull/433.
> >>>
> >>> As soon as your device has such libhybris, you could
> >>>
> >>> - use https://build.merproject.org/project/show/home:rinigus:flatpak to
> >>> install flatpak, flatpak-runner
> >>> - run flatpak-extension-hybris to generate Flatpah hybris extension at
> >>> user nemo's home (run as nemo)
> >>> - install flatpak apps, see instructions at Flathub on how to do it
> >>> - run them using flatpak-runner
> >>>
> >>> Many things don't work, but would be faster to get it fixed together
> >>> with other devs.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers.
> >>>
> >>> Rinigus
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:18 AM rinigus  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> just finished the first version of a wrapper for 'flatpak run' command
> >>>> as well, available at https://github.com/rinigus/flatpak-runner . Its
> >>>> based on qxcompositor and it opens new Wayland server before running an
> >>>> application, all explained in README. Device rotation is supported and
> >>>> should be followed.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, as it is:
> >>>>
> >>>> - we have to resolve libhybris linker issue to make it possible to
> >>>> distribute.
> >>>> - keyboard is not supported currently. At present, app has to have
> >>>> qtvirtualkeyboard support added as in
> >>>> https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtvirtualkeyboard-deployment-guide.html#creating-inputpanel
> >>>> .
> >>>> - only single-window apps are working well, such as QML developed for
> >>>> mobile
> >>>> - no sound so far
> >>>> - probably many other things are missing, haven't bumped into them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Essentially, we will have access to the latest Qt, but would have to
> >>>> write apps for this use. Fortunately, it all goes along SFOS programming
> >>>> and should be simple to convert later to Silica, when/if it catches up 
> >>>> with
> >>>> Qt versions.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess we can get better integration after it will be simple to
> >>>> install on other devices and start using it by others.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rinigus
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 5:25 PM rinigus  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> wait a bit, I may have a way to simplify setup. Few days ago, after
> >>>>> discussion on IRC, I found a way around disappearance of the window when
> >>&

Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

Could you elaborate on:
> libhybris compiled with specification of default hybris-ld-library-path,
> content of libexec/droid-hybris added with GL extension.
Is that libhybris build available (and safe to run on main device, or should I 
dig out my j1)?
Also not sure what added with GL extension means? Having a browser that uses up 
to date webengine would be awesome.

Thanks and happy new year!
szopin

On Sunday, 29 December 2019, rinigus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would have preferred to stay away from discussion on why do we need/not
> need Flatpak on SFOS. But I guess I have to take it as the one working on
> making it possible.
> 
> Native apps rely on the libs allowed in the Store and bundle the rest of
> them. I presume OSM Scout Server and Pure Maps are exceptions, but they are
> built around almost 20 libs bundled with the application and compiled with
> newer gcc than the one on the platform. If I would have continued to
> provide OSM Scout Server via the official Store, I'd have to bundle
> libsystemd as well - something that I found was crossing a line for me. So,
> any security issue in those bundled libs would be propagated the same way
> as with the Flatpak. I admit that its way less libs than distributed via
> Flatpak. However, in the case of Flatpak, apps are provided on the top of
> "runtimes" with the app including everything which is extending the runtime
> to make it work. So, in case of OSM Scout Server and Pure Maps, their
> Flatpaks do include some libs as well. Those runtimes are updated. Now, I
> am not in position to say whether its security updates are as fast as of
> distros and have no idea how it compares to SFOS.
> 
> However, I see mainly portability and up-to-date toolbox aspect of Flatpak,
> not that much security in terms of sandbox. These are my preferences and
> they could differ from yours.
> 
> Looking at the speed of upcoming Qt update, I was considering whether to
> make qt5.12 (or later) in /opt (/home/opt) and use it from there to allow
> us to work on newer browser engine or make Flatpak available. The both
> solutions would break look-and-feel of SFOS, but allow us to use current
> libs, something that we have been missing for too long. And, in many
> aspects, we, as developers, waste lot of time to fight against. I swayed
> towards Flatpaks as it has well developed tools around it, provides
> portability (you can run it on desktop), and will make sense to have when
> other mobile Linux distros will start going as a way to use the same app at
> all of them.
> 
> Note that is we develop apps immediately with the reservation that we could
> switch to a native version as soon as it is ready to receive it (in terms
> of Qt version, for example), we can start working on things that are
> impossible right now on SFOS but may become available later (Qt 5.12?). I
> would expect that this much better than using Android browser on SFOS.
> 
> Please note that it is not to criticize Jolla regarding the update speed of
> Qt. Its probably a complex process and, as we have all built around it, may
> break few things to put it mildly. But a large part of my work as a
> developer on SFOS is around incompatibilities imposed by old libs and gcc.
> So, from developer POV, its important to prioritize Qt update as much as
> possible. Not sure how much we can help with it, but that's probably
> separate discussion (please start it if you wish).
> 
> Sorry for long post, please see my previous ones on technical issues that
> we currently face.
> 
> As for latest state:
> 
> Test browser that I can run is executed with:
> 
> QT_WAYLAND_FORCE_DPI=physical flatpak run --filesystem=host --device=all
> --env=HYBRIS_EGLPLATFORM_DIR=/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/GL/default/lib/libhybris
> --env=HYBRIS_LINKER_DIR=/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/GL/default/lib/libhybris/linker
> org.qutebrowser.qutebrowser together.jolla.com
> 
> libhybris compiled with specification of default hybris-ld-library-path,
> content of libexec/droid-hybris added with GL extension.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rinigus
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 9:26 PM E.S. Rosenberg <
> es.rosenberg+sailfishos@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Native apps rely on the libs shipped with the OS, thus they don't ship
> > with unsecure libs unless Jolla is shipping them and they become secure the
> > moment Jolla updated the libs (and should the update break binary
> > compatibility will require a new release compiled against the new libs).
> > Flatpacks and snaps are security nightmares, instead of getting them lets
> > work on moving the SFOS platform along.
> >
> > Op zo 29 dec. 2019 om 20:41 schreef rinigus :
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >

Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

If you can provide a basic.qml for a portal for x, pretty sure tons of people 
will be able to help with portals for y (still no idea how that would work with 
the whole virtualization, but hopefully only you need to do the hard carry and 
rest can help with the localization/copy pasting stuff)

On Friday, 27 December 2019, rinigus wrote:
> Yes, pretty much GUI allowing access to files and other sandboxed
> functions. See https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Portals
> 
> Rinigus
> 
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:43 PM  wrote:
> 
> > 'writing portals' would mean? Like qml files to handle i/o?
> >
> >
> > On Friday, 27 December 2019, rinigus wrote:
> > > That was exactly the thought behind it. There will be work to do, such as
> > > writing portals, but we need to get compositor issue fixed first. Or use
> > > some separate one...
> > >
> > > Rinigus
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:17 PM  wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is amazing, if there is something I can do to help please let me
> > > > know, not being tied to os version of qt is awesome, we could maybe
> > get a
> > > > proper browser with this? Hope leszek is on the list
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

'writing portals' would mean? Like qml files to handle i/o?


On Friday, 27 December 2019, rinigus wrote:
> That was exactly the thought behind it. There will be work to do, such as
> writing portals, but we need to get compositor issue fixed first. Or use
> some separate one...
> 
> Rinigus
> 
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:17 PM  wrote:
> 
> > This is amazing, if there is something I can do to help please let me
> > know, not being tied to os version of qt is awesome, we could maybe get a
> > proper browser with this? Hope leszek is on the list
> >
> >
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Flatpak for Sailfish

[szopin]

This is amazing, if there is something I can do to help please let me know, not 
being tied to os version of qt is awesome, we could maybe get a proper browser 
with this? Hope leszek is on the list 

On Friday, 27 December 2019, rinigus wrote:
> I have a breakthrough. Had to compile libhybris with
> 
> --with-default-hybris-ld-library-path=/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/GL/default/libexec/droid-hybris/system/lib:/vendor/lib:/system/lib:/odm/lib
> 
> and enable "--filesystem=host --device=all" in "flatpak run". As a result,
> I have some Qt flatpak apps running. While Falkon does crash on init,
> qutebrowser
> started.
> 
> Few issues:
> 
> Keyboard:
> Enabling Qt Virtual Keyboard with QT_IM_MODULE=qtvirtualkeyboard makes it
> crash though, with a message
> 
> 19:48:20 WARNING: requestActivate() called for
>  QtVirtualKeyboard::InputView(0xe9150998)  which has
> Qt::WindowDoesNotAcceptFocus set.
> 
> and flashing virtual keyboard on screen for a moment. I guess, we will have
> to use
> QML InputPanel to make it work for now.
> 
> 
> Minimizing:
> When you minimize an application, you get the application minimized into
> small live icon and you get a message in terminal
> 
> 20:25:39 WARNING: Minimizing is not supported on wl-shell. Consider using
> xdg-shell instead.
> 20:25:39 WARNING: Wayland does not support QWindow::requestActivate()
> 
> You can restore application immediately from small representation of it.
> However, if you had lockscreen or some other app over it, the icon
> disappears and its impossible to get the window back. At the same time, the
> application keeps running. qxcompositor does help, as apps are not
> minimized when staying on Wayland screen over there.
> 
> So, to summarize:
> 
> 1. Flatpak applications can run on SFOS.
> 
> 2. We need to move away from wl-shell and get to the non-deprecated
> composer option (fixing minimizing and restoring applications). That will
> enable Gdk apps as well.
> 
> 3. Ideally, libhybris should allow to specify hybris-ld-library-path during
> runtime. Otherwise, we have to compile separate versions of hybris - one
> for device and one for flatpaks. On device, two copies are needed anyway
> (probably hardlinking will work as well).
> 
> 4. Keyboard will need some work. I presume that by moving to supported
> composer we could get around it with qt virtual keyboard. There is a
> workaround for our apps, if needed. For native look, if possible, someone
> will have to comment.
> 
> Looks like #2 is a breaker right now and I don't know if it is possible to
> fix anytime soon.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rinigus
>

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish SDK 3.0 has been released to Early Access

[szopin]

Great stuff, signs of 5.12 incoming?
Btw is there an arm version of silica module (or silica-devel, not exactly 
sure), as doubt getting an arm version of the whole sdk would make sense 
(emulator no longer needed unless for i486 build?) to get sdk/qt creator 
running on geminiPDA/cosmo? Or are the libs on phone sufficient to build silica 
apps in base qt creator built on device?

Thanks,
szopin

On Monday, 23 December 2019, Jarkko Lehtoranta wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Today (Dec 23rd) at 12:00 UTC the Sailfish SDK 3.0 was released to Early 
> Access users. Please, check out the release notes from 
> https://together.jolla.com/question/220011/ .
> 
> The installers for this SDK release are now available at 
> https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Application_SDK_Early_Access#Latest_Early_Access_SDK_Release
>  . If you have an older Early Access release of the SDK installed, you should 
> see an update notification in the Sailfish IDE.
> 
> If you have any questions, feel free to either send an email to this mailing 
> list: devel at lists.sailfishos.org, write it up in http://together.jolla.com 
> and tag your issue with ‘sdk’ or send an e-mail to developer-care at 
> jolla.com. 
> 
> Happy hacking & Merry Xmas,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK again, again...

[szopin]

Well the known issues page for SDK states:

The installer does not handle all error conditions.

But good to know openssl is not the culprit.

On Monday, 18 November 2019, Martin Kampas wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> The error messages in the tool tip shown when the *-armv7hl kit is hovered 
> tell you the 
> device selected in kit configuration is architecture incompatible with the 
> kit. The kit 
> supports armv7hl devices while the device (Sailfish OS Emulator) is an x86 
> device. You can 
> still use the kit to build RPM packages for the armv7hl architecture, you 
> will just not be 
> able to run those directly from Qt Creator. For that you need to provide a 
> hardware device 
> with that architecture and configure the kit to use that instead of the 
> emulator. Use the *-
> i486 kit if you want to run your software under the Sailfish OS Emulator.
> 
> The installation log currently contains information that is mostly useful to 
> someone with 
> knowledge of SDK installer internals. An error message appearing there is not 
> necessary 
> meaning something wrong. The installer would complain verbosely if an 
> installation error 
> really occurred.
> 
> The SSL-related errors are not likely to affect SDK functions regularly 
> involved in Sailfish 
> OS application development.
> 
> BR,
> Martin
>

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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK again, again...

[szopin]

Oops I wrote arm for some reason, just install std openssl 1.0 package for your 
laptop and if install works you're good to go (reupgrade to latest after, if 
you need 1.0 for running sdk, though that shouldn't be the case, you could just 
copy the .so's to sdk dir and have a small bash script to LD_PRELOAD relevant 
libs, but shouldn't be needed it seems only install requires 1.0)

On Sunday, 17 November 2019, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> On Sunday, 17 November 2019 15.24.18 CET szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Actually, downgrading to 1.0 might work as qtcreator 5.6 requires it
> > according to
> > https://forum.qt.io/topic/97098/install-qt-creator-5-6-0-on-ubuntu-mate-18->
> >  04-1/2 seems weird but could be worth a try and reupdating after install
> 
> Good find!
> 
> It does look like it could at least solve the "cannot resolve" errors, I'm 
> just baffled that no one else is having this problem?
> 
> But how would one approach this. Preferably having both v.1.0 and v.1.1 side 
> by side. Maybe it's possible to set an env variable saying which to use? I 
> have no idea :P
> 
> Hmm. Now I just checked my desktop PC. I has the same openssl version. I'll 
> investigate some more. Thanks for the suggestions :)
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK again, again...

[szopin]

This has answer with some links:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52210603/qt-and-openssl-incompatible-version-on-ubuntu
Just download a 1.0 arm deb install, reinstall sdk, then apt-get update(?) to 
get back to latest (there is a compat package on fedora/opensuse according to 
this 
https://together.jolla.com/question/191318/problems-installing-sdk-1807-on-linux/
 but didn't find a deb, so best to just downgrade for install and reupgrade 
after it seems) 

On Sunday, 17 November 2019, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> On Sunday, 17 November 2019 15.24.18 CET szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Actually, downgrading to 1.0 might work as qtcreator 5.6 requires it
> > according to
> > https://forum.qt.io/topic/97098/install-qt-creator-5-6-0-on-ubuntu-mate-18->
> >  04-1/2 seems weird but could be worth a try and reupdating after install
> 
> Good find!
> 
> It does look like it could at least solve the "cannot resolve" errors, I'm 
> just baffled that no one else is having this problem?
> 
> But how would one approach this. Preferably having both v.1.0 and v.1.1 side 
> by side. Maybe it's possible to set an env variable saying which to use? I 
> have no idea :P
> 
> Hmm. Now I just checked my desktop PC. I has the same openssl version. I'll 
> investigate some more. Thanks for the suggestions :)
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK again, again...

[szopin]

Actually, downgrading to 1.0 might work as qtcreator 5.6 requires it according 
to 
https://forum.qt.io/topic/97098/install-qt-creator-5-6-0-on-ubuntu-mate-18-04-1/2
 seems weird but could be worth a try and reupdating after install

On Sunday, 17 November 2019, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> On Sunday, 17 November 2019 14.29.11 CET szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Have you tried updating openssl on your laptop and reinstalling? Seems like
> > this was the problem during install so it probably installed incorrectly?
>  
> Good suggestion, but I can't believe that to be the problem. It's a freshly 
> installed Kubuntu 19.10 with an updated openssl:
> 
> Package: openssl
> Version: 1.1.1c-1ubuntu4
> Priority: important
> Section: utils
> Origin: Ubuntu
> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers 
> Original-Maintainer: Debian OpenSSL Team  de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
> Installed-Size: 1.282 kB
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libssl1.1 (>= 1.1.1)
> 
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK again, again...

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Yeah, downgrading seems unlikely to fix it. Only other thing that comes to mind 
is the virtualization in bios:  If the Emulator fails to boot to user 
interface, the reason might be disabled virtualization technology settings in 
host computer’s BIOS? But that should only impact emulator not the install so 
probably not it

On Sunday, 17 November 2019, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> On Sunday, 17 November 2019 14.29.11 CET szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Have you tried updating openssl on your laptop and reinstalling? Seems like
> > this was the problem during install so it probably installed incorrectly?
>  
> Good suggestion, but I can't believe that to be the problem. It's a freshly 
> installed Kubuntu 19.10 with an updated openssl:
> 
> Package: openssl
> Version: 1.1.1c-1ubuntu4
> Priority: important
> Section: utils
> Origin: Ubuntu
> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers 
> Original-Maintainer: Debian OpenSSL Team  de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
> Installed-Size: 1.282 kB
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libssl1.1 (>= 1.1.1)
> 
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK again, again...

[szopin]

Have you tried updating openssl on your laptop and reinstalling? Seems like 
this was the problem during install so it probably installed incorrectly?

On Sunday, 17 November 2019, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> Apparently the SDK and I are not on the best of terms. 
> After having gotten it to work on my desktop PC, I am now trying to install
> it on an older laptop. Every time I try to install it, I end up with a broken 
> kit, where cmake settings are missing/broken. Maybe because of:
> 
> SOFT ASSERT: "kitInfo.isValid()" in file 
> ../../../../sailfish-qtcreator/src/plugins/qmakeprojectmanager/qmakeproject.cpp,
>  line 268
> 
> I have no idea whatsoever what to do from here without breaking more than I 
> fix.
> 
> A picture says more... and so on:
> 
> https://cloud.tanghus.net/apps/sharingpath/tanghus/Documents/SDK-installation.txt
> 
> There were quite a few errors at the end of the installation. Among those:
> - Device Sailfish_OS-Emulator-latest not found.
> - Installing component Sailfish OS Build Target latest-i486 (3.2.0.12) 
> Integration for Sailfish OS IDE
> Error: Id was not found.
> - Installing component Sailfish OS Build Target latest-armv7hl (3.2.0.12) 
> Integration for Sailfish OS IDE
>  Error: Id was not found.
> 
> The "interesting" parts of the install log:
> 
> https://cloud.tanghus.net/apps/sharingpath/tanghus/Pictures/Screenshots/SailfishOS/SailfishOS-SDK-kit-no-cmake.png
> -- 
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[SailfishDevel] Harbour icon templates

[szopin]

Hi,

The icon templates in https://sailfishos.org/design/icons/ are offered in 86x86 
only (the pngs at least), while expected resolutions go up to 172x172, should 
probably go with the higher one for people using image editor instead of vector.

Regards,
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[SailfishDevel] Is running an app with qmlscene fine for harbour?

[szopin]

Just curious as last mention of qmlscene on tjc is from 2014 and modRana at 
that point was supposedly ran with it, is it still ok to have .desktop file 
calling qmlscene or is that a no-no for harbour apps even for pure qml apps? 
(asking as modrana currently seems to be calling a binary, so had to go through 
sdk? If not qmlscene what is proper way to submit pure qml apps?)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] is there any existing webapp framework?

[szopin]

If someone has the x86 binary upload it somewhere (unless it is personalized 
per client) it can be run in text mode so maybe qemu could work on the phone

On Monday, 22 October 2018, Gerd wrote:
> Which, as mentioned before, is not available for the ARM platform and
> the source code is not available.
> 
> On 2018/10/22 7:58 PM, Tone Kastlunger wrote:
> > Ah but but :
> > https://protonmail.com/bridge/install
> > They have a  linux beta.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:57 PM Tone Kastlunger
> > mailto:users.giulie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Given they provide it for paying customers,
> > it probably makes them believe  not to fit their business model.
> >
> > https://protonmail.com/bridge/
> >
> > I think this is just a 90's mentality towards software.
> > *OR* they do not have infrastructure to support all the (eventual)
> > clients.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:05 AM juice via Devel
> > mailto:devel@lists.sailfishos.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > dep kirjoitti lauantaina 20. lokakuuta 2018:
> > > said Tone Kastlunger:
> > >
> > > | I don't understand.
> > > | You say there's a x86 and a Mac version. Is code available?
> > >
> > > Nope. Only binaries. I've asked -- begged, actually -- for
> > them to
> > > compile it for ARM, but no joy.
> > >
> >
> > I have no experience of Protonmail, in fact I had never heard
> > of it
> > before and until I just now checked it out and I had no idea
> > what is it
> > supposed to be good for; however it seems to be legit.
> >
> > The thing that smells bad here is their reluctance to release
> > the imap
> > bridge as open source! Could it be that their encryption is
> > not as
> > secure as it should be and they are ashamed of showing up the
> > source?
> >
> > I'd stay away from that kind of provider.
> >
> >- juice -
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Linux desktop software on Sailfish?

[szopin]

Depends on what app you want to run, some will probably never move to wayland 
and xwayland will be the only option to run them. More active/newer apps will 
probably at some point compile without any X lib dependencies, but it will take 
a while (at least mir is dead)

On Thursday, 1 March 2018, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> On 3/1/2018 11:26 PM, szo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > There's xwayland, but only 'working' option (touch/sound) is buggy chroot 
> > of arch or ubuntu:
> > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=98882
> > (managed to get it working on tablet with sound only during sfos 
> > notifications but would crash/reboot rather soon after initiating, not 
> > really usable, maybe with gemini more ppl look into it)
> 
>  From a quick check, it seems that e.g. gtk supports Wayland. Also, 
> Ubuntu 17 uses Wayland by default.
> 
> So I would guess that X compatibility is not a must nowadays and 
> probably not the way to go.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dietmar
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Linux desktop software on Sailfish?

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There's xwayland, but only 'working' option (touch/sound) is buggy chroot of 
arch or ubuntu:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=98882
(managed to get it working on tablet with sound only during sfos notifications 
but would crash/reboot rather soon after initiating, not really usable, maybe 
with gemini more ppl look into it)

On Thursday, 1 March 2018, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> In the last days Planet Computers started shipping the Gemini PDA which 
> has Android installed by default but features a Linux dual boot option.
> There will be an option to install Sailfish OS as the Linux OS.
> 
> For most buyers the motivation to buy the device is not just Android 
> with a keyboard but the option to use it as a productivity device, 
> including office applications and development software.
> Currently the only option for this usage scenario is Debian. Ubuntu 
> should follow soon.
> 
> Is there a realistic option to have e.g. gtk and a Linux desktop on 
> Sailfish OS?
> A Sailfish OS with Android compatibility and Linux productivity 
> applications would be the perfect OS for the Gemini PDA.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dietmar
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Development on device, problem with missing dependencies

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Graphic libs will conflict, you can develop on device using chroot:
https://together.jolla.com/question/26605/howto-install-a-chroot-for-building-apps/


On Thursday, 15 February 2018, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote:
> I'm trying to install development packages on-device and pkcon/zypper
> is complaining about breaking device. gcc and stuff is doing fine, it's
> that some of the qt5-*-devel packages are having issues.
> 
> Doing some more digging around, what it actually tries to tell me is
> that a package is missing:
> 
> nothing provides pkgconfig(android-headers) needed by libhybris-libEGL-
> devel-0.0.5.18-10.11.3.jolla.armv7hl
> 
> Any ideas where to find a rpm that provides it ? Does not seem to be in
> SDK.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] lock JP01 on 4G, is it possible?

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Prefer 4g used to be 'lteumts' so with 3g, maybe 'lte' worked to restrict to 4G 
as callback switching didn't work and now it no longer works as before, so 
you'll have to be happy with 3g because they fixed it (jk, but wouldn't be 
surprised, edge cases get forgotten once they figure out the popular case)

On Thursday, 13 April 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> On my JP1 "Prefer 4G" in the network settings means that when 4G is
> available and I'm not making a call/sending an sms I am on 4G.
> 
> I never thether WiFi though so don't know if that would work, usually use
> USB tethering so that it's charging and not finishing the battery so fast.
> 
> 2017-04-13 16:10 GMT+03:00 szopin <szo...@gmail.com>:
> 
> > check https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/ofono/blob/master/
> > ofono/doc/radio-settings-api.txt
> > it still says lte is for lte only, maybe a bug, or maybe a feature with
> > callback switching, on j1 it used to block any call functionality, might've
> > been undesired behaviour, no idea (I had a similar situation like you and
> > wanted 4g only and it used to block any 2-3g connections, maybe it was
> > dropped)
> >
> > On 13 April 2017 at 14:13, Claudio Campeggi <claudio.campeggi@studio.
> > unibo.it> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> thank you for your replies but the command you provided doesn't work.
> >> I do know that I won't be able to receive calls, but on 3G I barely get 5 
> >> megabits whereas on 4G I get always 10 megabits or more, not to talk about 
> >> the amazingly low latency on 4G compared to 3G.
> >> I want to force JP01 on 4G as once I start wifi tethering it won't 
> >> automatically go to 4G, and I do know that there is 4G coverage in that 
> >> place (as I wrote, better walls penetration on 800Mhz)..
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, ppl calling you would get busy signal (and no text from your 
> >> provider to tell you about it), it doesn't work on jollac,and since radio 
> >> switcher was mentioned as no longer working no idea if it still does
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, 11 April 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> >> >* The dialog in System Settings should be enough, it should be noted 
> >> >though
> >> *>* that LTE did not usually support voice calls so when you are making the
> >> *>* call the phone always needs to switch back to UMTS (things may have
> >> *>* changed).
> >> *> >* 2017-04-10 16:25 GMT+03:00  >> <https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel>>:
> >> *> >* > This should force lte (calls will most likely be disabled, change 
> >> 'lte' to
> >> *>* > 'any' to switch back):
> >> *>* >
> >> *>* > dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org
> >> *>* > .ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference"
> >> *>* > variant:string:"
> >> *>* > lte"
> >> *>* >
> >> *>* > (or at least this used to work in 2014)
> >> *>* >
> >> *>* >
> >> *>* > On Monday, 10 April 2017, Claudio Campeggi wrote:
> >> *>* > > Hi,
> >> *>* > > in the past I used the Radio Switch app (on warehouse) to lock my 
> >> JP01
> >> *>* > > on 4G network (it seems that if 3G signal is low sailfish doesn't 
> >> search
> >> *>* > > for 4G networks, but in my area 3g is 2100MHz and 4g on 800MHz, so 
> >> it
> >> *>* > > penetrates the building walls way better), but a while ago the 4G 
> >> mode
> >> *>* > > stopped working because the bash command use was no longer working.
> >> *>* > >
> >> *>* > > I'm writing to know if it's still possible with a new bash command 
> >> to
> >> *>* > > lock the phone in 4G only mode, and if so how.
> >> *>* > >
> >> *>* > > I do know there is the "more network modes" patch but I would like 
> >> to
> >> *>* > > avoid to use patches.
> >> *>* > >
> >> *>* > > Thank you
> >> *>* > >
> >> *>* > >
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Re: [SailfishDevel] lock JP01 on 4G, is it possible?

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check
https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/ofono/blob/master/ofono/doc/radio-settings-api.txt
it still says lte is for lte only, maybe a bug, or maybe a feature with
callback switching, on j1 it used to block any call functionality, might've
been undesired behaviour, no idea (I had a similar situation like you and
wanted 4g only and it used to block any 2-3g connections, maybe it was
dropped)

On 13 April 2017 at 14:13, Claudio Campeggi <
claudio.campe...@studio.unibo.it> wrote:

> Hi,
> thank you for your replies but the command you provided doesn't work.
> I do know that I won't be able to receive calls, but on 3G I barely get 5 
> megabits whereas on 4G I get always 10 megabits or more, not to talk about 
> the amazingly low latency on 4G compared to 3G.
> I want to force JP01 on 4G as once I start wifi tethering it won't 
> automatically go to 4G, and I do know that there is 4G coverage in that place 
> (as I wrote, better walls penetration on 800Mhz)..
>
> Regards
>
>
> Yeah, ppl calling you would get busy signal (and no text from your provider 
> to tell you about it), it doesn't work on jollac,and since radio switcher was 
> mentioned as no longer working no idea if it still does
>
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> >* The dialog in System Settings should be enough, it should be noted though
> *>* that LTE did not usually support voice calls so when you are making the
> *>* call the phone always needs to switch back to UMTS (things may have
> *>* changed).
> *> >* 2017-04-10 16:25 GMT+03:00  >:
> *> >* > This should force lte (calls will most likely be disabled, change 
> 'lte' to
> *>* > 'any' to switch back):
> *>* >
> *>* > dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org
> *>* > .ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference"
> *>* > variant:string:"
> *>* > lte"
> *>* >
> *>* > (or at least this used to work in 2014)
> *>* >
> *>* >
> *>* > On Monday, 10 April 2017, Claudio Campeggi wrote:
> *>* > > Hi,
> *>* > > in the past I used the Radio Switch app (on warehouse) to lock my JP01
> *>* > > on 4G network (it seems that if 3G signal is low sailfish doesn't 
> search
> *>* > > for 4G networks, but in my area 3g is 2100MHz and 4g on 800MHz, so it
> *>* > > penetrates the building walls way better), but a while ago the 4G mode
> *>* > > stopped working because the bash command use was no longer working.
> *>* > >
> *>* > > I'm writing to know if it's still possible with a new bash command to
> *>* > > lock the phone in 4G only mode, and if so how.
> *>* > >
> *>* > > I do know there is the "more network modes" patch but I would like to
> *>* > > avoid to use patches.
> *>* > >
> *>* > > Thank you
> *>* > >
> *>* > >
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Re: [SailfishDevel] lock JP01 on 4G, is it possible?

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You might need to downgrade ofono to 2014-2015 versions then, it used to work 
(lte was lte only, lteumts was 3g+4g which doesn't interest you, the default 
now it seems)

On Thursday, 13 April 2017, Claudio Campeggi wrote:
> Hi,
> thank you for your replies but the command you provided doesn't work.
> I do know that I won't be able to receive calls, but on 3G I barely get 5 
> megabits whereas on 4G I get always 10 megabits or more, not to talk about 
> the amazingly low latency on 4G compared to 3G.
> I want to force JP01 on 4G as once I start wifi tethering it won't 
> automatically go to 4G, and I do know that there is 4G coverage in that place 
> (as I wrote, better walls penetration on 800Mhz)..
> 
> Regards
> 
> Yeah, ppl calling you would get busy signal (and no text from your 
> provider to tell you about it), it doesn't work on jollac,and since radio 
> switcher was mentioned as no longer working no idea if it still does
> 
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> >/The dialog in System Settings should be enough, it should be noted
> though />/that LTE did not usually support voice calls so when you are 
> making
> the />/call the phone always needs to switch back to UMTS (things may 
> have />/changed). />//>/2017-04-10 16:25 GMT+03:00  >: />//>/ > 
> This should force lte (calls will most likely be disabled, change
> 'lte' to />/ > 'any' to switch back): />/ > />/ > dbus-send --system 
> --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org />/ > 
> .ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" />/ > 
> variant:string:" />/ > lte" />/ > />/ > (or at least this used to work in 
> 2014) />/ > />/ > />/ > On Monday, 10 April 2017, Claudio Campeggi wrote: />/ 
> > > Hi, />/ > > in the past I used the Radio Switch app (on warehouse) to lock
> my JP01 />/ > > on 4G network (it seems that if 3G signal is low sailfish
> doesn't search />/ > > for 4G networks, but in my area 3g is 2100MHz and 
> 4g on 800MHz,
> so it />/ > > penetrates the building walls way better), but a while ago 
> the
> 4G mode />/ > > stopped working because the bash command use was no longer
> working. />/ > > />/ > > I'm writing to know if it's still possible with 
> a new bash
> command to />/ > > lock the phone in 4G only mode, and if so how. />/ > > 
> />/ > > I do know there is the "more network modes" patch but I would
> like to />/ > > avoid to use patches. />/ > > />/ > > Thank you />/ > > 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] lock JP01 on 4G, is it possible?

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Yeah, ppl calling you would get busy signal (and no text from your provider to 
tell you about it), it doesn't work on jollac,and since radio switcher was 
mentioned as no longer working no idea if it still does 

On Tuesday, 11 April 2017, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> The dialog in System Settings should be enough, it should be noted though
> that LTE did not usually support voice calls so when you are making the
> call the phone always needs to switch back to UMTS (things may have
> changed).
> 
> 2017-04-10 16:25 GMT+03:00 :
> 
> > This should force lte (calls will most likely be disabled, change 'lte' to
> > 'any' to switch back):
> >
> > dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org
> > .ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference"
> > variant:string:"
> > lte"
> >
> > (or at least this used to work in 2014)
> >
> >
> > On Monday, 10 April 2017, Claudio Campeggi wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > in the past I used the Radio Switch app (on warehouse) to lock my JP01
> > > on 4G network (it seems that if 3G signal is low sailfish doesn't search
> > > for 4G networks, but in my area 3g is 2100MHz and 4g on 800MHz, so it
> > > penetrates the building walls way better), but a while ago the 4G mode
> > > stopped working because the bash command use was no longer working.
> > >
> > > I'm writing to know if it's still possible with a new bash command to
> > > lock the phone in 4G only mode, and if so how.
> > >
> > > I do know there is the "more network modes" patch but I would like to
> > > avoid to use patches.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
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Re: [SailfishDevel] lock JP01 on 4G, is it possible?

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This should force lte (calls will most likely be disabled, change 'lte' to 
'any' to switch back):

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org
.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"
lte"

(or at least this used to work in 2014)


On Monday, 10 April 2017, Claudio Campeggi wrote:
> Hi,
> in the past I used the Radio Switch app (on warehouse) to lock my JP01 
> on 4G network (it seems that if 3G signal is low sailfish doesn't search 
> for 4G networks, but in my area 3g is 2100MHz and 4g on 800MHz, so it 
> penetrates the building walls way better), but a while ago the 4G mode 
> stopped working because the bash command use was no longer working.
> 
> I'm writing to know if it's still possible with a new bash command to 
> lock the phone in 4G only mode, and if so how.
> 
> I do know there is the "more network modes" patch but I would like to 
> avoid to use patches.
> 
> Thank you
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] IAP api

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You can now set sdl_hint_qtwayland_content_orientation and window_flags:
https://hg.libsdl.org/SDL/rev/63c2c6c8762c95d62aa4125cf5adda77ae9d9b79
So swipes will work correctly if you render in landscape, not sure if that will 
be enough for harbour though

On Tuesday, 28 March 2017, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote:
> The code from github (https://github.com/lanurmi/sailfish-minimal-sdl )
> says it doesn't use OpenGL and also it uses SDL_CreateRenderer
> 
> Does it work in both modes (landscape and portrait)? What if you want to
> use OpenGL and do your own rendering, what then regarding both modes?
> 
> Under Android the landscape/portrait mode is derived from the manifest
> file. Under iOS there is a similar technology were you set the properties
> of the window and also you can pass hint to SDL2 (according to
> documentation only available for iOS). Similarly you can set the window
> rotation for other (now dead) OSs like webOS, BlackBerry (both BB10 and
> PlayBook)
> 
> What about the SailfishOS?
> 
> 
> Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

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Shhh, no, snapping that random insta pic on n900 (and possibly neo900) still 
takes longer than detaching kb part, poor design, better 5 year old phone, and 
not sliding, so bad, and can use bt and charge my kb with watch AND phone. Some 
people, ehh

On Thu Apr 9 20:38:52 2015 GMT+0200, Roberto Colistete Jr. wrote:
  Hi,
 
  About the The Other Half Keyboard (TOHKBD) v2 for Jolla smartphone, 
 there are 48 remaining to last buyers :
 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1466065postcount=1095
 dirkvl is online now dirkvl Yesterday , 05:36
 Currently 48 TOHKBDs left in the shop.
 
  There are many color choices :
 http://funkyotherhalf.com/tohkbdconfigurator/
 and keypad layouts :
 http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
 
  Regards,
 
  Roberto
 
 On 09-04-2015 04:52, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
  The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if 
  it will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
 
  (But right now you can still pre-order here: 
  http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
   
  http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#%21/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090)
 
  Regards,
  Eli
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] What processor do you have in your SailfishOS SDK machine?

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  Send me a direct mail - NOT on this mailing list

On Tue Dec 02 2014 21:25:48 GMT+0100 (CET), Tone Kastlunger wrote:
 1) Win7
 2) 64 bit
 3) No virtualization
 4) I5-3317U CPU @ 1.7 GHz
 
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Carsten Munk carsten.m...@jolla.com
 wrote:
 
  We're due to the tablet program looking into optimizing SailfishOS a
  little better on the Intel X86 side of things. It's currently optimizing
  for -march=i486 :)
 
  Because that may have implications on what machines the SailfishOS SDK
  emulator will run on and build engine, we'd like to know what kind of
  setups you have running SailfishOS SDK.
 
  Send me a direct mail - NOT on this mailing list with answers to:
 
  0) Linux (what distribution+version), MacOS X (what version?) or Windows
  (which windows?)
  1) Running a 32 or a 64 bit operating system?
  2) VT virtualization technology or not?
  3) What processor is in your PC?
  - Windows: http://www.cpuid.com/ may be able to help on Windows
  - Mac: About This Mac
  - Linux: Output of /proc/cpuinfo if you're on Linux, one processor is
  enough
 
  Based on that we'll decide what lowest common denominator should be.
 
  BR
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