Re: [XFree86] Help writing a accelerator X driver
- Original Message - From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [XFree86] Help writing a accelerator X driver You are being naive. You don't have enough information to do such a thing. Mark. Hi I think I do and in fact I am doing it the LNVRM part is working Their is a lot to add to it yet but the basics are working Like NV04_CHANNEL_DMA is up and running that is how my X client is sending data and commands to the chip . Just now I am adding more accelerator classs to LNVRM then the fun of linking them into X I say my LNVRM is already up and running allocating classs and free them and controlling the chip and DMA mappings and interrupts my X client is already using NV04_REANDER_SOLID_RECTANGLE thou DMA channel I also have made my own software class NV04_NVXF_DISPLAY in steed of NV04_VIDEO_LUT_CURSOR_DAC For controlling the screen On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, dave wrote: Help I am writing a X-4.2.x fully accelerator driver For NVIDIA video cards . It consisted of 2 parts 1. kernel LNVRM (LINUX NVIDIA RESOURCE MANAGER) 2. XNVXF (NVIDIA X FREE) The kernel part controls the hardware and the X part talks to the kernel part using (ioctl) and the USER part of the hardware using DMA and MMIO All data 2D ,3D ,IMAGE ,VIDEO , MPEG , OVERLAY to and from screen MUST Go thou the accelerator and their can be NO! direct access to screen memory can X function in this way?? (Complete accelerator driver) ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
http://www.xfree86.org/devel/ is gone?
Not Found The requested URL /devel/ was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.xfree86.org Port 80 ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: http://www.xfree86.org/devel/ is gone?
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:19:30PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: Not Found The requested URL /devel/ was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.xfree86.org Port 80 That is correct. Since this is a resource that contained information that cannot be made publicly available, it has been removed. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
XFree86 host.def file questions
Hi Guys, One area that appears to be severely lacking for the 'new' developer is guidance on how to set up the host.def file properly so that you can build XFree86 successfully on your system. The default xf86site.def is a good start, but it doesn't really explain things since everything is essentially commented out. You don't really know what stuff you *should* define to get a standard build on different systems. Perhaps a good start would be to have a directory with sample host.def files in it, especially a good 'default' file that can be used to build a complete XFree86 system on Linux and FreeBSD for instance. That is where a lot of developers could really use a default they can just copy to host.def and then do a 'make World'. Which brings me to my question. Do I need to uncomment the XF86CardDrivers section in the host.def file in order to build the driver modules? The comments would seem to indicate you need to do this, but IMHO that would be kind of silly (too error prone). I *think* in reality if you do not define this that the default set of all drivers will be built, and you can use this define to change which drivers actually get built. Is that correct? Thanks! --- Kendall Bennett Chief Executive Officer SciTech Software, Inc. Phone: (530) 894 8400 http://www.scitechsoft.com ~ SciTech SNAP - The future of device driver technology! ~ ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: XFree86 host.def file questions
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote: Hi Guys, One area that appears to be severely lacking for the 'new' developer is guidance on how to set up the host.def file properly so that you can build XFree86 successfully on your system. The default xf86site.def is a good start, but it doesn't really explain things since everything is essentially commented out. You don't really know what stuff you *should* define to get a standard build on different systems. Perhaps a good start would be to have a directory with sample host.def files in it, especially a good 'default' file that can be used to build a complete XFree86 system on Linux and FreeBSD for instance. That is where a lot of developers could really use a default they can just copy to host.def and then do a 'make World'. The xf86site.def IS the sample host.def. You don't need the host.def. It merely overrides the xf86site.def and provides a way to edit a file that doesn't get clobbered by CVS. If 'make World' doesn't just build without any editing at all, that is a bug. Which brings me to my question. Do I need to uncomment the XF86CardDrivers section in the host.def file in order to build the driver modules? The comments would seem to indicate you need to do this, but IMHO that would be kind of silly (too error prone). I *think* in reality if you do not define this that the default set of all drivers will be built, and you can use this define to change which drivers actually get built. Is that correct? All drivers get built unless you uncomment and edit the XF86CardDrivers. The point of doing that in a separate file (the host.def) is so you don't prevent the sample (the xf86site.def) from patching properly. Mark. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: http://www.xfree86.org/devel/ is gone?
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:50:32PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: DD That is correct. Since this is a resource that contained DD information that cannot be made publicly available, it has been DD removed. Which means that we no longer have access to the patches@ and cvs-commit@ list archives? It doesn't make life much earlier. Patches are now submitted via bugzilla, which is accessible to everyone. Once someone can tell me how we automatically forward any further submissions to those addresses to bugzilla, we'll do so. cvs-commit has been a public list for a long time, and I'd be surprised if one of the usual mailing list archives sites doesn't carry it. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: XFree86 host.def file questions
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:42:03PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote: Hi Guys, One area that appears to be severely lacking for the 'new' developer is guidance on how to set up the host.def file properly so that you can build XFree86 successfully on your system. The default xf86site.def is a good start, but it doesn't really explain things since everything is essentially commented out. You don't really know what stuff you *should* define to get a standard build on different systems. Perhaps a good start would be to have a directory with sample host.def files in it, especially a good 'default' file that can be used to build a complete XFree86 system on Linux and FreeBSD for instance. That is where a lot of developers could really use a default they can just copy to host.def and then do a 'make World'. The general rule is don't create a host.def file unless you find you need to. It follows from this that a good default file is an empty one, hence the empty collection of sample host.def files :-). If the build fails without one, it's usually a bug. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: XFree86 host.def file questions
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:51:13PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One area that appears to be severely lacking for the 'new' developer is guidance on how to set up the host.def file properly so that you can build XFree86 successfully on your system. The default xf86site.def is a good start, but it doesn't really explain things since everything is essentially commented out. You don't really know what stuff you *should* define to get a standard build on different systems. Perhaps a good start would be to have a directory with sample host.def files in it, especially a good 'default' file that can be used to build a complete XFree86 system on Linux and FreeBSD for instance. That is where a lot of developers could really use a default they can just copy to host.def and then do a 'make World'. The xf86site.def IS the sample host.def. You don't need the host.def. It merely overrides the xf86site.def and provides a way to edit a file that doesn't get clobbered by CVS. If 'make World' doesn't just build without any editing at all, that is a bug. Well if you don't actually need a host.def file, then that needs to be *much* more clearly explained in the build documentation. I just went Quoting from http://www.xfree86.org/current/BUILD2.html: 2. Configuring the source before building In most cases it shouldn't be necessary to configure anything before building. If you do want to make configuration changes, it is recommended that you start by going to ... David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: http://www.xfree86.org/devel/ is gone?
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 05:58:54PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:50:32PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: DD That is correct. Since this is a resource that contained DD information that cannot be made publicly available, it has been DD removed. Which means that we no longer have access to the patches@ and cvs-commit@ list archives? It doesn't make life much earlier. Patches are now submitted via bugzilla, which is accessible to everyone. Once someone can tell me how we automatically forward any further submissions to those addresses to bugzilla, we'll do so. cvs-commit has been a public list for a long time, and I'd be surprised if one of the usual mailing list archives sites doesn't carry it. I haven't noticed it on google (not that google is omniscient...) Try this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xfree-cvs -- Leif Delgass http://www.retinalburn.net ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: XFree86 host.def file questions
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general rule is don't create a host.def file unless you find you need to. It follows from this that a good default file is an empty one, hence the empty collection of sample host.def files :-). If the build fails without one, it's usually a bug. I can see that now, but when I was starting trying to build this stuff not long ago that was not at all clear to me. Seems to me that the barrier to entry for new developers with XFree86 is the lack of documentation and a simple 'getting started' guide. It helps immensely with projects if developers can download and do a successful compile within the first 10 minutes of unpacking the source code IMHO. Any longer and they start to lose interest fast ;-) Regards, --- Kendall Bennett Chief Executive Officer SciTech Software, Inc. Phone: (530) 894 8400 http://www.scitechsoft.com ~ SciTech SNAP - The future of device driver technology! ~ ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: XFree86 host.def file questions
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 05:11:36PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote: David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general rule is don't create a host.def file unless you find you need to. It follows from this that a good default file is an empty one, hence the empty collection of sample host.def files :-). If the build fails without one, it's usually a bug. I can see that now, but when I was starting trying to build this stuff not long ago that was not at all clear to me. Seems to me that the barrier to entry for new developers with XFree86 is the lack of documentation and a simple 'getting started' guide. It helps immensely with projects if developers can download and do a successful compile within the first 10 minutes of unpacking the source code IMHO. Any longer and they start to lose interest fast ;-) I guess you must have read something to even know about the existence of a host.def file. I presume that it was misleading, and so should be fixed. I think that http://www.xfree86.org/current/BUILD.html is a reasonable introduction to building XFree86, but suggestions for improving that document are most welcome. The best starting point for documentation in general is is http://www.xfree86.org/current/, which is an index of the online documentation that we have available for the most recent release. I wish there was as much information available when I got started. :-) I can understand that you're pretty busy and have a lot to do. If the typical would-be developer is put off by not being able to build within 10 minutes of unpacking, then they're probably not going to make much progress with any real development challenges. I'll spare everyone my when I was a lad stories :-) David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: http://www.xfree86.org/devel/ is gone?
David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:50:32PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: DD That is correct. Since this is a resource that contained DD information that cannot be made publicly available, it has been DD removed. Which means that we no longer have access to the patches@ and cvs-commit@ list archives? It doesn't make life much earlier. Patches are now submitted via bugzilla, which is accessible to everyone. If we had previously submitted bugs/fixes to the patches mailing list that haven't been integrated yet, do we need to resubmit via bugzilla? Or is someone still working through the old backlog the old fashioned way? -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Sun Software Group Quality, Integration, Customer Success (QICS) Platform Globalization Engin. - X11 Engineering ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: http://www.xfree86.org/devel/ is gone?
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:41:18PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:50:32PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: DD That is correct. Since this is a resource that contained DD information that cannot be made publicly available, it has been DD removed. Which means that we no longer have access to the patches@ and cvs-commit@ list archives? It doesn't make life much earlier. Patches are now submitted via bugzilla, which is accessible to everyone. If we had previously submitted bugs/fixes to the patches mailing list that haven't been integrated yet, do we need to resubmit via bugzilla? Or is someone still working through the old backlog the old fashioned way? There's no need to resubmit anything that has already been submitted through the old mechanism. David -- David Dawes Release Engineer/Architect The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
