[freenet-dev] windows pre5 installer

[Mathew Ryden]

I've put up the new windows installer on
http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-webinstall.exe . The main
differences in this release are:
* No longer sets ipAddress='internal name'
* No more nodeStatus errors
* Changed rtMaxRefs to 100 and changed info in freenet.ini
* No MFC70 stuff (overall it does look pretty good for i18n though)

Upcoming releases should include:
* No file overwriting - just edit current file
* Options for more of the often set details

I still haven't been able to reproduce the two major bugs:
* Cannot find installed jre
* Node seems to run but doesn't

If anyone can do some serious debugging on either of these it would be much
appreciated.

The new NodeConfig seems to automatically set the node as permanent - I will
be fixing this as soon as possible (as soon as i find out why) but I'd
rather release this now since my internet connection is so flakey as of
late.

-Mathew


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[freenet-dev] Metadata & Moderation

[David Allen]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:27:03AM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 08:50:57PM -0400, David Allen wrote:
> > Who does the moderation of the mailing list?  I sent a patch to the
> > list earlier, but I used the wrong email address so I got a message
> > back saying that it's pending moderator approval.  Are outside posts
> > that big of a problem at this point?
> > 
> > Anyway, I would really appreciate it if that patch or some form of the
> > same idea could make it into freenet 0.5.  After thinking about it,
> > the metadata issue we discussed a while ago has implications for
> > people building spiders and indexing software that Phillip Marlowe was
> > talking about - if a hit to SSK at pubkey/site//nothing returns the
> > default page, that effectively means that broken freesite links can be
> > indexed successfully, which might have bad side effects.
> What patch?

The one that hasn't come through yet because it's *waiting for
moderator approval*  :)

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[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.5pre5

[Matthew Toseland]

Freenet 0.5pre5 is now available. This build increases the minimum build
number to 514 (roughly pre3), so older nodes will not be able to request
files from it, this is to encourage owners of old, buggy nodes to
upgrade to the current, much more functional code. It makes the native
datastore mandatory, and converts all old stores. It also contains other
important bugfixes.
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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Matthew Toseland]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 05:04:07PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Matthew Toseland (toad at amphibian.dyndns.org) wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 09:49:26AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > I am finding that it can take as much as 3 minutes to load the routing 
> > > table.
> 
> > Honestly this has to be a fluke caused by hawk being overloaded.
> 
> Here's what I'm seeing with a good-sized native data store on a
> Celeron 400 with 64 MB (Linux 2.4.18, Sun Java 1.4.1):
> 
> Oct 17, 2002 11:23:12 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
> Oct 17, 2002 11:24:34 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
> Oct 17, 2002 11:24:34 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table
> Oct 17, 2002 11:25:35 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading temp bucket 
> factory
> Oct 17, 2002 11:32:56 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting node
> Oct 17, 2002 11:32:57 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service: mainport
> Oct 17, 2002 11:32:58 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service: 
> nodestatus
> Oct 17, 2002 11:32:59 AM (freenet.node.Node, main): Starting ticker..
> Oct 17, 2002 11:32:59 AM (freenet.node.Node, main): Starting interfaces..
> 
> Sure, the "routing table" part "only" takes 1 minute, but overall it
> takes 10 minutes to start the node, with the bulk of this time being
> spent in the "temp bucket factory".
That's totally ridiculous. Very little happens in temp bucket factory.
Are you sure your computer isn't ridiculously slow due to running a
whole lot of stuff in the background? Anyway, if you want me to have a
look, set logLevel to debug and send me the bzip2'd log of "loading temp
bucket factory" to "starting node".
> 
> -- 
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> greg at wooledge.org  |- The Red Hot Chili Peppers
> http://wooledge.org/~greg/ |



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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Chris Dennis]

On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 00:51, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Chris Dennis (freenet at chrisdennis.force9.co.uk) wrote:
> 
> > Route not Found
> > Attempts were made to contact 14 nodes.
> > 14 were totally unreachable
> 
> This indicates a communications problem.  Either you have bad seed
> node references, or you're firewalled in some way that's preventing
> Freenet from operating properly.

In the end it turned out to be a Java problem.

I was running Sun Java 1.3.1 in '-classic' mode i.e. with 'green
threads' so that only one java process is running.  That was fine until
recently.  

Now it seems that I have to revert to '-server' mode.  Oh well.

cheers

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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

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[freenet-dev] Metadata & Moderation

[David Allen]

Who does the moderation of the mailing list?  I sent a patch to the
list earlier, but I used the wrong email address so I got a message
back saying that it's pending moderator approval.  Are outside posts
that big of a problem at this point?

Anyway, I would really appreciate it if that patch or some form of the
same idea could make it into freenet 0.5.  After thinking about it,
the metadata issue we discussed a while ago has implications for
people building spiders and indexing software that Phillip Marlowe was
talking about - if a hit to SSK at pubkey/site//nothing returns the
default page, that effectively means that broken freesite links can be
indexed successfully, which might have bad side effects.

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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Matthew Toseland]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 09:49:26AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I am finding that it can take as much as 3 minutes to load the routing 
> table.
> 
> This could be problematic since many users will have given up after such 
> a long delay deciding that Freenet wasn't working.
> 
> The store directory contains 3MB of files, a total of 465 individual 
> files as far as I can tell.  A normal-sized store is likely to be
> 10 or 20 times this size.
Honestly this has to be a fluke caused by hawk being overloaded.
> 
> Is there any way we can reduce this huge delay?
> 
> Ian.
> 
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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Greg Wooledge]

Matthew Toseland (toad at amphibian.dyndns.org) wrote:

> That's totally ridiculous. Very little happens in temp bucket factory.
> Are you sure your computer isn't ridiculously slow due to running a
> whole lot of stuff in the background?

All of my computers run dnetc (www.distributed.net client).

> Anyway, if you want me to have a
> look, set logLevel to debug and send me the bzip2'd log of "loading temp
> bucket factory" to "starting node".

Hrm... it's not doing it *now*.  Figures. :-/

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[freenet-dev] Metadata & Moderation

[Josh Steiner]

big attachments are sent to moderation to keep traffic bandwidth down 
aparently.

David Allen wrote:

>On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:27:03AM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>  
>
>>On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 08:50:57PM -0400, David Allen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Who does the moderation of the mailing list?  I sent a patch to the
>>>list earlier, but I used the wrong email address so I got a message
>>>back saying that it's pending moderator approval.  Are outside posts
>>>that big of a problem at this point?
>>>
>>>Anyway, I would really appreciate it if that patch or some form of the
>>>same idea could make it into freenet 0.5.  After thinking about it,
>>>the metadata issue we discussed a while ago has implications for
>>>people building spiders and indexing software that Phillip Marlowe was
>>>talking about - if a hit to SSK at pubkey/site//nothing returns the
>>>default page, that effectively means that broken freesite links can be
>>>indexed successfully, which might have bad side effects.
>>>  
>>>
>>What patch?
>>
>>
>
>The one that hasn't come through yet because it's *waiting for
>moderator approval*  :)
>
>  
>


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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Matthew Toseland]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 09:49:26AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I am finding that it can take as much as 3 minutes to load the routing 
> table.
> 
> This could be problematic since many users will have given up after such 
> a long delay deciding that Freenet wasn't working.
Um, it will not take this long on a fresh store.
> 
> The store directory contains 3MB of files, a total of 465 individual 
> files as far as I can tell.  A normal-sized store is likely to be
> 10 or 20 times this size.
> 
> Is there any way we can reduce this huge delay?
Probably.
> 
> Ian.
> 
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> Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi
> Personal Homepage http://locut.us/



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[freenet-dev] What is going on with the Windows Installer

[Mathew Ryden]

- Original Message -
From: "Ian Clarke" 

> What is going on with the Windows installer?  At this rate, it would be
> rediculous if the Windows installer delayed the 0.5 release.

It's coming. For the most part the current windows installer will work with
any 0.5 release except an issue with the currently released version on
setting nodestatus.class and nodestatus.port.

I've been trying to track down that "unable to find java interpreter"
problem but a combination of connectivity issues and being able to reproduce
it are making progress slow. Also, no idea on the "the freenet traytask
starts up and doesn't show a problem, without a logfile created" Any help on
that would be much appreciated on that front.

By the end of the weekend a new build with better options will be available
which also fixes some of the other issues wrt installs including the
"deleting the node on a failed upgrade" hopefully.

(I've also been trying to get the windows installer to build freenet, but
that's going to be a bit more work till that is in a working state)

> Ian.

-Mathew


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[freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

[Marco A. Calamari]

At 16.12 17/10/02 +0100, you wrote:



>On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 04:25:48PM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
>>=20
>> Using 518, is now possible insert & retrieve both
>>  normal & FEC keys via (http:)
>>=20
>> Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
>>  work but the insert, both FEC & non-FEC.
>>=20
>> Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)
>>=20
>> https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/
>>=20
>Works for me :)

You're right 8)

I'm sorry for the noise I created; the only explaination
 that I can imagine is I used another (older) node by mistake
 (I manage 3 of them).

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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Ed Tomlinson]

On October 17, 2002 05:23 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 05:04:07PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Matthew Toseland (toad at amphibian.dyndns.org) wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 09:49:26AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > > I am finding that it can take as much as 3 minutes to load the
> > > > routing table.
> > >
> > > Honestly this has to be a fluke caused by hawk being overloaded.
> >
> > Here's what I'm seeing with a good-sized native data store on a
> > Celeron 400 with 64 MB (Linux 2.4.18, Sun Java 1.4.1):
> >
> > Oct 17, 2002 11:23:12 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
> > Oct 17, 2002 11:24:34 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
> > Oct 17, 2002 11:24:34 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table
> > Oct 17, 2002 11:25:35 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading temp bucket
> > factory Oct 17, 2002 11:32:56 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting node
> > Oct 17, 2002 11:32:57 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service:
> > mainport Oct 17, 2002 11:32:58 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading
> > service: nodestatus Oct 17, 2002 11:32:59 AM (freenet.node.Node, main):
> > Starting ticker.. Oct 17, 2002 11:32:59 AM (freenet.node.Node, main):
> > Starting interfaces..
> >
> > Sure, the "routing table" part "only" takes 1 minute, but overall it
> > takes 10 minutes to start the node, with the bulk of this time being
> > spent in the "temp bucket factory".
>
> That's totally ridiculous. Very little happens in temp bucket factory.
> Are you sure your computer isn't ridiculously slow due to running a
> whole lot of stuff in the background? Anyway, if you want me to have a
> look, set logLevel to debug and send me the bzip2'd log of "loading temp
> bucket factory" to "starting node".

Did the trace I passed to you on irc last night not help?  It showed the
same pattern.

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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Roger Hayter]

In message <20021017131541.GA29434 at freenetproject.org>, Ian Clarke 
 writes
>On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 07:51:45PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> My seeds are at http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref as usual,
>> should you wish to pursue your problem from that direction.
>
>Are people finding that the seed nodes provided by hawk are ineffective?
>
>Ian.
>
I'm still finding DNS problems, last time I looked, hawk's  old hn.org 
DNS server still thought it was authoritative , and the TTL on the new 
one was only 1 hour, which means I keep getting the old IP address 
cached for a day or two. However, I have always found that the seed 
nodes provided by hawk gave a node enough of a hint to get going after 6 
to 12 hours.  The original poster was worried that the seed nodes 
included a lot using old builds, but then we know that is a feature of 
Freenet.  It might have worked better if he  left the node running 
longer.  Perhaps new users should be encouraged to delete seednodes.ref 
if they use the update script when they have a good working node, 
because I have always found (perhaps contrary to design behaviour) that 
nodes lose routing when restarted with a fresh set of seed nodes less 
"good"  than the ones already in the routing table.
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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Greg Wooledge]

Matthew Toseland (toad at amphibian.dyndns.org) wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 09:49:26AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > I am finding that it can take as much as 3 minutes to load the routing 
> > table.

> Honestly this has to be a fluke caused by hawk being overloaded.

Here's what I'm seeing with a good-sized native data store on a
Celeron 400 with 64 MB (Linux 2.4.18, Sun Java 1.4.1):

Oct 17, 2002 11:23:12 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem
Oct 17, 2002 11:24:34 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store
Oct 17, 2002 11:24:34 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table
Oct 17, 2002 11:25:35 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading temp bucket factory
Oct 17, 2002 11:32:56 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting node
Oct 17, 2002 11:32:57 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service: mainport
Oct 17, 2002 11:32:58 AM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service: nodestatus
Oct 17, 2002 11:32:59 AM (freenet.node.Node, main): Starting ticker..
Oct 17, 2002 11:32:59 AM (freenet.node.Node, main): Starting interfaces..

Sure, the "routing table" part "only" takes 1 minute, but overall it
takes 10 minutes to start the node, with the bulk of this time being
spent in the "temp bucket factory".

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

[Marco A. Calamari]

Using 518, is now possible insert & retrieve both
 normal & FEC keys via (http:)

Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
 work but the insert, both FEC & non-FEC.

Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)

https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/

http://bespin.homelinux.net:/

0.5 cannot have this kind of problems!

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[freenet-dev] Fproxy usage via SSL

[Matthew Toseland]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 04:25:48PM +0200, Marco A. Calamari wrote:
> 
> Using 518, is now possible insert & retrieve both
>  normal & FEC keys via (http:)
> 
> Using an SSL tunnel (https:443) the retrieve
>  work but the insert, both FEC & non-FEC.
> 
> Try yourself (yes, the tunnel is good)
> 
> https://bespin.homelinux.net:443/
> 
Works for me :)
Inserting: CHK@

2048 bytes transferred.
State REQUESTING reached.
Insert URI -
freenet:CHK at zD8vc2ltK01bq9nXAnI1Yibb40QLAwI,cbDf6yiYawJLLTX9FB~0sg
The insert has been accepted; waiting up to 58 seconds for the StoreData
INSERTED:
freenet:CHK at zD8vc2ltK01bq9nXAnI1Yibb40QLAwI,cbDf6yiYawJLLTX9FB~0sg

> http://bespin.homelinux.net:/
> 
> 0.5 cannot have this kind of problems!
Um, making fproxy work through tunnels when all but the most
internet-deprived should be running nodes is not actually a release
priority for 0.5.
> 
> HTH.   Marco
> 
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[freenet-dev] Build 518

[Matthew Toseland]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 08:31:25AM -0400, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> On October 16, 2002 07:54 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > Build 418 is in CVS, and the snapshot has been regenerated. Features
> > lots of fproxy improvements/fixes, some stuff from robbe, and a fix, I
> > think, for the ConnectionHandler not terminated bug (code review of that
> > last item would be appreciated).
> 
> Make that 518.  Right?
> 
:)
> Ed
> 
> 

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[freenet-dev] seed nodes (was 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes)

[the bishop]

>> My seeds are at http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref as usual,
>> should you wish to pursue your problem from that direction.
>
> Are people finding that the seed nodes provided by hawk are ineffective?

Yes!

only 14 nodes; my routing table now consists of 160 Nodes, of which 115 could 
be contacted. And the routing table only fills up slowly, after many requests.
there should at least be the 30-40 most reliable nodes in the standard 
seednodes.ref .
just modify your script not to publish a seed node list with less than 30 
nodes. (This happened more than once before the ref file was set static)

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[freenet-dev] What is going on with the Windows Installer

[Ian Clarke]

What is going on with the Windows installer?  At this rate, it would be 
rediculous if the Windows installer delayed the 0.5 release.

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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Ian Clarke]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 07:05:16PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > This could be problematic since many users will have given up after such 
> > a long delay deciding that Freenet wasn't working.
> Um, it will not take this long on a fresh store.

What do you mean by a "fresh store"?  Do you mean a blank store the 
first time Freenet starts up?  I am not sure that is much help.

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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Chris Dennis]

On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 00:51, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Chris Dennis (freenet at chrisdennis.force9.co.uk) wrote:
> 
> > Route not Found
> > Attempts were made to contact 14 nodes.
> > 14 were totally unreachable
> 
> This indicates a communications problem.  Either you have bad seed
> node references, 
Yes - see below.
or you're firewalled in some way that's preventing
> Freenet from operating properly.
No, my firewall set-up is OK.
> 
> My seeds are at http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref as usual,
> should you wish to pursue your problem from that direction.

Thanks Greg - better seednodes helped (a bit).

It seems that the seednodes.ref file currently distributed with the .tgz
files in freenetproject.org/snapshots and accessed by update.sh from
hawk.freenetproject.org/~freenet4/seednodes.ref is way out of date - the
most recent build mentioned in it is 504.

Can someone fix this?  Otherwise new users are completely stuck.

regards

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[freenet-dev] time required to initialize node

[Ian Clarke]

I am finding that it can take as much as 3 minutes to load the routing 
table.

This could be problematic since many users will have given up after such 
a long delay deciding that Freenet wasn't working.

The store directory contains 3MB of files, a total of 465 individual 
files as far as I can tell.  A normal-sized store is likely to be
10 or 20 times this size.

Is there any way we can reduce this huge delay?

Ian.

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[freenet-dev] [OffTopic] Hubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble

[Ian Clarke]

For those of you curious about what Scott Miller and I have been working
on for the past while, an early beta of a strange new piece of software
is now available at http://cematics.com/kanzi.  Feel free to try it out 
and let us know what you think.

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[freenet-dev] Build 518

[Ed Tomlinson]

On October 16, 2002 07:54 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Build 418 is in CVS, and the snapshot has been regenerated. Features
> lots of fproxy improvements/fixes, some stuff from robbe, and a fix, I
> think, for the ConnectionHandler not terminated bug (code review of that
> last item would be appreciated).

Make that 518.  Right?

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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Ian Clarke]

On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 07:51:45PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> My seeds are at http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref as usual,
> should you wish to pursue your problem from that direction.

Are people finding that the seed nodes provided by hawk are ineffective?

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[freenet-dev] Unable to run under windows

[Reuben Balik]

I have been having trouble with the latest build under Windows.  I installed it 
yesterday using whatever installer was linked to on the freenetproject.org 
page.  When I run it nothing happens.  There is no data store generated or even 
a log file.  However, the freenet systray icon gives no indication that 
anything is wrong.  Also, when I right click on the icon and choose configure, 
an error message comes up.

Am I doing something wrong or is there a known problem in the current version 
of the installer or freenet itself that stops it from running on windows?

(I am using Win98 and Java 1.4.1)

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[freenet-dev] Making build 514 mandatory

[Matthew Toseland]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 02:42:43PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Here's the problem:
> * builds prior to about 507 all use the monolithic datastore. This is very
>   bad for routing.
> * builds 507ish to 513ish have various bugs with the native datastore
>   which cause problems on insert
> * ALL builds prior to 514 have one particular insert-affecting bug
> * We can't increase lastGoodBuild AFTER we have released 0.5 without
>   major problems
> 
> We cannot block a build only for insertion, because we want inserts and
> requests to end up in the same place. So IMHO the correct solution is to
> increase lastGoodBuild to 514. This may cause some short-term
> disruption, but it should also prevent these bugs from causing network
> problems, and we can't do it later without much greater trouble.
Actually, increasing lastGoodBuild won't prevent problems with sending
requests to old nodes, which is the issue. However, it will hopefully
persuade a lot of node ops running old versions to upgrade (or leave),
leading to a healthier network, albeit temporarily a smaller one.
So do we want to increase the minimum build version?
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[freenet-dev] Build 418

[Matthew Toseland]

Build 418 is in CVS, and the snapshot has been regenerated. Features
lots of fproxy improvements/fixes, some stuff from robbe, and a fix, I
think, for the ConnectionHandler not terminated bug (code review of that
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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Chris Dennis]

On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 00:03, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> On October 16, 2002 06:47 pm, Chris Dennis wrote:
> > Hello Freenetters
> >
> > I've tried various combinations with recent builds (515, 516, 517), just
> > now with a fresh installation of freenet-0.5pre4.tgz, and everthing
> > seems to be fine - no errors in the log.
> > (SuSE Linux 7.3, kernel 2.4.10-4GB, Sun Classic Java VM 1.3.1-b24 - all
> > of which has worked well in the past)
> >
> > BUT I can't get or put anything.
> >
> > The routing table shows 14 node references, none contactable, and all
> > with version numbers between 495 and 504.
> >
> > The seednodes.ref file I'm using is the one from the .tgz file (dated 29
> > Sep, 18:58, 14552 bytes).
> >
> > Is there a more up-to-date seednodes.ref file that I can use?
> >
> > And should it be included in the distribution?
> 
> How big is your datastore?  On w K6-3 400 with a 500M datastore freenet takes
> about 10 mins to start...  IMO this is not a bug - if it takes a while to 
> start
> that fine.

It's only 200MB (the default in freenet.conf) and running native.  And
it doesn't matter how long I wait, I still can't connect to any other
nodes.

This is all very frustrating because I was on the point of finally
getting my site inserted properly.  Things were running quite well with
(IIRC) 509 - until the datastore filled up and I got the DSB...

cheers

Chris

(p.s. according to my ex, DSB stands for something else entirely...)


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[freenet-dev] build fails

[Matthew Toseland]

On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 07:08:06PM -0400, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With the latest updates from cvs (7:10pm edt) I get:
Try now.
> 
> Logging in to :pserver:anonymous at 
> cvs.freenet.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/freenet
> CVS password:
> ? freenet/dist
> ? freenet/docs
> M freenet/build.xml
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/http/FproxyServlet.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/http/ImageServlet.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/http/filter/ContentFilter.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/http/filter/Parser.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/http/filter/Parser.jflex
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/http/filter/SimpleFilter.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/metadata/DocumentCommand.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/client/metadata/MimeTypeUtils.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/node/Main.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/node/http/infolets/DefaultInfolet.java
> U freenet/src/freenet/node/states/request/Pending.java
> oscar% cd freenet
> oscar% ant clean jar
> Buildfile: build.xml
> 
> clean:
>[delete] Deleting directory /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/build
>[delete] Deleting directory /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/dist/freenet-0.5
>[delete] Deleting directory /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/docs
> 
> init:
> [mkdir] Created dir: /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/build
> [mkdir] Created dir: /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/dist/freenet-0.5
> [mkdir] Created dir: /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/docs/api
> 
> get-extjar:
> 
> compile:
> [javac] Compiling 697 source files to /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/build
> [javac] 
> /poola/home/ed/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/states/request/Pending.java:182:
>  cannot resolve symbol
> [javac] symbol  : variable initException
> [javac] location: class freenet.node.states.request.RequestInitiator
> [javac]  Long.toHexString(id)+" his was:", 
> ri.initException,
> [javac]  ^
> [javac] Note: Some input files use or override a deprecated API.
> [javac] Note: Recompile with -deprecation for details.
> [javac] 1 error
> 
> BUILD FAILED
> 
> Using sun java 1.4.1-b21 on linux.
> 
> Ed
> 
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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Chris Dennis]

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 23:52, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:47:23PM +0100, Chris Dennis wrote:
> > Hello Freenetters
> > 
> > I've tried various combinations with recent builds (515, 516, 517), just
> > now with a fresh installation of freenet-0.5pre4.tgz, and everthing
> > seems to be fine - no errors in the log.
> > (SuSE Linux 7.3, kernel 2.4.10-4GB, Sun Classic Java VM 1.3.1-b24 - all
> > of which has worked well in the past)
> > 
> > BUT I can't get or put anything.  
> What exact error message do you get? Route Not Found?
Trying to get TFE:

Route not Found
Attempts were made to contact 14 nodes.
14 were totally unreachable

On further attempts to reach TFE, the number of attempts drops rapidly
to zero.

Trying to insert a KSK, the 'Request failed gracefully' with Route not
Found.



cheers

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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Matthew Toseland]

On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:47:23PM +0100, Chris Dennis wrote:
> Hello Freenetters
> 
> I've tried various combinations with recent builds (515, 516, 517), just
> now with a fresh installation of freenet-0.5pre4.tgz, and everthing
> seems to be fine - no errors in the log.
> (SuSE Linux 7.3, kernel 2.4.10-4GB, Sun Classic Java VM 1.3.1-b24 - all
> of which has worked well in the past)
> 
> BUT I can't get or put anything.  
What exact error message do you get? Route Not Found?
> 
> The routing table shows 14 node references, none contactable, and all
> with version numbers between 495 and 504.
> 
> The seednodes.ref file I'm using is the one from the .tgz file (dated 29
> Sep, 18:58, 14552 bytes).
> 
> Is there a more up-to-date seednodes.ref file that I can use?
> 
> And should it be included in the distribution? 
> 
> cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
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[freenet-dev] 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes

[Chris Dennis]

Hello Freenetters

I've tried various combinations with recent builds (515, 516, 517), just
now with a fresh installation of freenet-0.5pre4.tgz, and everthing
seems to be fine - no errors in the log.
(SuSE Linux 7.3, kernel 2.4.10-4GB, Sun Classic Java VM 1.3.1-b24 - all
of which has worked well in the past)

BUT I can't get or put anything.  

The routing table shows 14 node references, none contactable, and all
with version numbers between 495 and 504.

The seednodes.ref file I'm using is the one from the .tgz file (dated 29
Sep, 18:58, 14552 bytes).

Is there a more up-to-date seednodes.ref file that I can use?

And should it be included in the distribution? 

cheers

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[freenet-dev] Unable to run under windows

[Reuben Balik]

I have been having trouble with the latest build under Windows. I installed it yesterday using whatever installer was linked to on the freenetproject.org page. When I run it nothing happens. There is no data storegenerated or even a log file. However, the freenet systray icon gives no indication that anything is wrong. Also, when I right click on the icon and choose configure, an error message comes up.
Am I doing something wrong or is there a known problem in the current version of theinstaller or freenet itself that stops it from running on windows?
(I am using Win98 and Java 1.4.1)
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Re: [freenet-dev] seed nodes (was 0.5pre4 does nothing - only connects to old nodes)

[the bishop]

 My seeds are at http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref as usual,
 should you wish to pursue your problem from that direction.

 Are people finding that the seed nodes provided by hawk are ineffective?

Yes!

only 14 nodes; my routing table now consists of 160 Nodes, of which 115 could 
be contacted. And the routing table only fills up slowly, after many requests.
there should at least be the 30-40 most reliable nodes in the standard 
seednodes.ref .
just modify your script not to publish a seed node list with less than 30 
nodes. (This happened more than once before the ref file was set static)

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