[freenet-dev] Freenet-Cards: ID cards with your node-ref

2009-09-23 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist 
Arne Babenhauserheide ?:
> Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 21:32:36 schrieb Robert Hailey:
>>> -> http://freenetcard.draketo.de/
> 
>> I really like the *idea*, but I wish it were easier to implement. It
>> would be a pain to enter that huge noderef by hand.
> ... 
>> freenet://192.168.0.128:4567/14/xYaEue344
> ...
>> Couldn't we then fetch the noderef from the given ip with very-good
>> certainty and forgo the long references?
> 
> Couldn't every freenet node create a freesite with only the noderef? 
> 
> Then we'd just have to hand out the public key to that freesite, if we want 
> to 
> connect to people who already use opennet. 
> 
> A missing piece would still be a shorthand, though: A way to shorten the huge 
> freenet URL to something we can actually type - like your URL, but as a 
> freenet link. 
> 
> And even if it's a freenet link, we might be able to reduce its complexity by 
> devising an alternate representation - for example splitting the link into 6 
> pieces. 
> 
> Currently an URL looks like this: 
> - http://127.0.0.1:/USK at wptdE7H1DsHd1SHsL-J5LoyYha8Nx3oje5yhusNT7rA,-
> iyrzP61KoWdQDK2omI7GgV~65mwGfWtDnbi1uzp0xc,AQACAAE/freenet-cards/11/
> 
> We could make it a nicer node identity like this: 
> 
> wptdE7H1DsHd1SH
> sL-J5LoyYha8Nx3
> oje5yhusNT7rA,
> 
> -iyrzP61KoWdQDK
> 2omI7GgV~65mwGf
> WtDnbi1uzp0xc,
> 
> AQACAAE
> 
> This is still kinda long, but doesn't look as horrible. 
> 
> But we would have a huge list of sites which have to be kept online. 
> 
> Or we could go the route of i2p and create a pseudo-DNS, where nodes can 
> register their node-ref. Something like freemail, maybe (though I don't know 
> how secure that is internally). 
> 
> Using IP+port doesn't look viable for me, though, because in Germany almost 
> noone has a stable IP. The only way I see for that would be dyndns. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> Arne

There was a proposal more than a couple of years ago to create poems for the 
node reference. In fact there were two source-ready versions posted on this 
list. They would be way too long to put on a business card, but could be given 
on a sheet of paper, and then retyped (must easier than to type the key).

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[freenet-dev] freenetforums.org

2009-09-23 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist 
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> Unofficial support forums with domain registered in my name (I would 
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> Devs will get admin access if they ask for it; some non-devs "old 
> thrustworthy users" may also get pivileged access. PM me on the message 
> board if you want to help with admin and moderation. I definitely need 
> help with admin, there are some things that I havent figured out yet. 
> Moderation isnt an issue yet but it probably will be when the users base 
> grows in size.
> 
> The front page links to the freenet website and to the wiki, + specifies 
> that the forums site is unofficial and not a part of the freenet project.
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[freenet-dev] Freenet-Cards: ID cards with your node-ref

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide 
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 10:02:52 schrieb VolodyA! V Anarhist:
> There was a proposal more than a couple of years ago to create poems for
>  the  node reference. In fact there were two source-ready versions posted
>  on this list. They would be way too long to put on a business card, but
>  could be given on a sheet of paper, and then retyped (must easier than to
>  type the key).

That sounds damn stylish! 

=> Want have ;) 

Why wasn't it included? 

Best wishes, 
Arne

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[freenet-dev] Freenet-Cards: ID cards with your node-ref

2009-09-23 Thread Zero3 
Robert Hailey skrev:
  > I really like the *idea*, but I wish it were easier to implement. It
> would be a pain to enter that huge noderef by hand.

I'd love to see this too. We have a couple of long-standing reports 
about this already though:

https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=166 (Proper invite mechanism )

https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1343 (Darknet: short 
references / out of band password verification)

https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1872 (Short noderefs)

- Zero3

[freenet-dev] Freenet-Cards: ID cards with your node-ref

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide 
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 21:32:36 schrieb Robert Hailey:
> > -> http://freenetcard.draketo.de/

> I really like the *idea*, but I wish it were easier to implement. It
> would be a pain to enter that huge noderef by hand.
... 
> freenet://192.168.0.128:4567/14/xYaEue344
...
> Couldn't we then fetch the noderef from the given ip with very-good
> certainty and forgo the long references?

Couldn't every freenet node create a freesite with only the noderef? 

Then we'd just have to hand out the public key to that freesite, if we want to 
connect to people who already use opennet. 

A missing piece would still be a shorthand, though: A way to shorten the huge 
freenet URL to something we can actually type - like your URL, but as a 
freenet link. 

And even if it's a freenet link, we might be able to reduce its complexity by 
devising an alternate representation - for example splitting the link into 6 
pieces. 

Currently an URL looks like this: 
- http://127.0.0.1:/USK at wptdE7H1DsHd1SHsL-J5LoyYha8Nx3oje5yhusNT7rA,-
iyrzP61KoWdQDK2omI7GgV~65mwGfWtDnbi1uzp0xc,AQACAAE/freenet-cards/11/

We could make it a nicer node identity like this: 

wptdE7H1DsHd1SH
sL-J5LoyYha8Nx3
oje5yhusNT7rA,

-iyrzP61KoWdQDK
2omI7GgV~65mwGf
WtDnbi1uzp0xc,

AQACAAE

This is still kinda long, but doesn't look as horrible. 

But we would have a huge list of sites which have to be kept online. 

Or we could go the route of i2p and create a pseudo-DNS, where nodes can 
register their node-ref. Something like freemail, maybe (though I don't know 
how secure that is internally). 

Using IP+port doesn't look viable for me, though, because in Germany almost 
noone has a stable IP. The only way I see for that would be dyndns. 

Best wishes, 
Arne

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[freenet-dev] BigInteger and NativeBigInteger

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel Cheng 
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Daniel Cheng  
wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Ximin Luo  wrote:
>> I created a new branch (bigint7) which tests the performance of java 7's
>> BigInteger implementation. can people please benchmark it?
>>
>
> no significant different are found.
>
> ?AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1800+
> ?Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_14-b08)
>
> see the attached graph for some plot.
>

Same (java7) code run under OpenJDK give ~20% improvment on this machine.

Re: [freenet-dev] freenetforums.org

2009-09-23 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist 
Luke771 пишет:
 Unofficial support forums with domain registered in my name (I would 
 transfer it to the Freenet Project if asked).
 Devs will get admin access if they ask for it; some non-devs old 
 thrustworthy users may also get pivileged access. PM me on the message 
 board if you want to help with admin and moderation. I definitely need 
 help with admin, there are some things that I havent figured out yet. 
 Moderation isnt an issue yet but it probably will be when the users base 
 grows in size.
 
 The front page links to the freenet website and to the wiki, + specifies 
 that the forums site is unofficial and not a part of the freenet project.
 
 
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Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet-Cards: ID cards with your node-ref

2009-09-23 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist 
Arne Babenhauserheide пишет:
 Am Dienstag, 22. September 2009 21:32:36 schrieb Robert Hailey:
 - http://freenetcard.draketo.de/
 
 I really like the *idea*, but I wish it were easier to implement. It
 would be a pain to enter that huge noderef by hand.
 ... 
 freenet://192.168.0.128:4567/14/xYaEue344
 ...
 Couldn't we then fetch the noderef from the given ip with very-good
 certainty and forgo the long references?
 
 Couldn't every freenet node create a freesite with only the noderef? 
 
 Then we'd just have to hand out the public key to that freesite, if we want 
 to 
 connect to people who already use opennet. 
 
 A missing piece would still be a shorthand, though: A way to shorten the huge 
 freenet URL to something we can actually type - like your URL, but as a 
 freenet link. 
 
 And even if it's a freenet link, we might be able to reduce its complexity by 
 devising an alternate representation - for example splitting the link into 6 
 pieces. 
 
 Currently an URL looks like this: 
 - http://127.0.0.1:/u...@wptde7h1dshd1shsl-j5loyyha8nx3oje5yhusnt7ra,-
 iyrzP61KoWdQDK2omI7GgV~65mwGfWtDnbi1uzp0xc,AQACAAE/freenet-cards/11/
 
 We could make it a nicer node identity like this: 
 
 wptdE7H1DsHd1SH
 sL-J5LoyYha8Nx3
 oje5yhusNT7rA,
 
 -iyrzP61KoWdQDK
 2omI7GgV~65mwGf
 WtDnbi1uzp0xc,
 
 AQACAAE
 
 This is still kinda long, but doesn't look as horrible. 
 
 But we would have a huge list of sites which have to be kept online. 
 
 Or we could go the route of i2p and create a pseudo-DNS, where nodes can 
 register their node-ref. Something like freemail, maybe (though I don't know 
 how secure that is internally). 
 
 Using IP+port doesn't look viable for me, though, because in Germany almost 
 noone has a stable IP. The only way I see for that would be dyndns. 
 
 Best wishes, 
 Arne

There was a proposal more than a couple of years ago to create poems for the 
node reference. In fact there were two source-ready versions posted on this 
list. They would be way too long to put on a business card, but could be given 
on a sheet of paper, and then retyped (must easier than to type the key).

   - Volodya

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Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet-Cards: ID cards with your node-ref

2009-09-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide 
Am Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 10:02:52 schrieb VolodyA! V Anarhist:
 There was a proposal more than a couple of years ago to create poems for
  the  node reference. In fact there were two source-ready versions posted
  on this list. They would be way too long to put on a business card, but
  could be given on a sheet of paper, and then retyped (must easier than to
  type the key).
 
That sounds damn stylish! 

= Want have ;) 

Why wasn't it included? 

Best wishes, 
Arne

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