Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Eduard Moraru]

Also, xar:format was executed at xwiki-platform level, in order for the
build not to fail.
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/053f0a2757cea18a5916632a58c6046ba61954cd
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/324c033cccdfe90074089e906e3960ff07156451

All other projects/extensions outside platform will have to execute a
xar:format on their own, at least once, after they upgrade to the new xar
plugin version. Of course, the behavior can be also skipped, if needed,
with details in https://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/XARPlugin.

Thanks,
Eduard

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 6:40 PM Eduard Moraru  wrote:

> Thanks for your votes.
>
> No -1s. The vote has passed.
>
> Done in https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XCOMMONS-1447 and updated
> https://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/CodeStyle/XWikiXMLFilesCodeStyle/
> .
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:04 AM Guillaume Delhumeau <
> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> 2018-08-07 10:48 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
>> mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com>:
>>
>> > +1
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Marius
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Eduard Moraru 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi, devs.
>> > >
>> > > We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
>> > > * July 2016 (discussion):
>> https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
>> > > * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
>> > >
>> > > And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
>> > > * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 :
>> Page
>> > > creation date should be the date of the installation
>> > > * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 <
>> https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XCOMMONS-1447>:
>> > > XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
>> > >
>> > > TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
>> > > created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git
>> that
>> > > users might end up installing.
>> > >
>> > > Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
>> > > * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in
>> the
>> > > wiki)
>> > > * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki,
>> if
>> > > using backup import
>> > > * Use the current user and current date for the document update date,
>> if
>> > > imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
>> > >
>> > > Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of
>> the
>> > > xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki
>> > pages
>> > > and to remove them. The fields are:
>> > > * date
>> > > * contentUpdateDate
>> > > * creationDate
>> > > * attachment/date
>> > >
>> > > See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
>> > >
>> > > This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely
>> with
>> > the
>> > > "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
>> > > "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
>> > > references).
>> > >
>> > > I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
>> > > document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792
>> )
>> > and
>> > > your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
>> > >
>> > > Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be
>> skipped
>> > by
>> > > default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party
>> code
>> > > is not impacted by this change).
>> > >
>> > > Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Eduard
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Eduard Moraru]

Thanks for your votes.

No -1s. The vote has passed.

Done in https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XCOMMONS-1447 and updated
https://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/CodeStyle/XWikiXMLFilesCodeStyle/
.

Thanks,
Eduard


On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:04 AM Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> 2018-08-07 10:48 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com>:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marius
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Eduard Moraru 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, devs.
> > >
> > > We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
> > > * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
> > > * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
> > >
> > > And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
> > > * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
> > > creation date should be the date of the installation
> > > * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447  >:
> > > XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
> > >
> > > TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
> > > created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git
> that
> > > users might end up installing.
> > >
> > > Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
> > > * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in
> the
> > > wiki)
> > > * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
> > > using backup import
> > > * Use the current user and current date for the document update date,
> if
> > > imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
> > >
> > > Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of
> the
> > > xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki
> > pages
> > > and to remove them. The fields are:
> > > * date
> > > * contentUpdateDate
> > > * creationDate
> > > * attachment/date
> > >
> > > See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
> > >
> > > This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with
> > the
> > > "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
> > > "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
> > > references).
> > >
> > > I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
> > > document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792)
> > and
> > > your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
> > >
> > > Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be
> skipped
> > by
> > > default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party
> code
> > > is not impacted by this change).
> > >
> > > Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eduard
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Guillaume Delhumeau]

+1

2018-08-07 10:48 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com>:

> +1
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Eduard Moraru 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi, devs.
> >
> > We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
> > * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
> > * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
> >
> > And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
> > * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
> > creation date should be the date of the installation
> > * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 :
> > XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
> >
> > TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
> > created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git that
> > users might end up installing.
> >
> > Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
> > * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in the
> > wiki)
> > * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
> > using backup import
> > * Use the current user and current date for the document update date, if
> > imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
> >
> > Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of the
> > xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki
> pages
> > and to remove them. The fields are:
> > * date
> > * contentUpdateDate
> > * creationDate
> > * attachment/date
> >
> > See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
> >
> > This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with
> the
> > "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
> > "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
> > references).
> >
> > I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
> > document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792)
> and
> > your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
> >
> > Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be skipped
> by
> > default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party code
> > is not impacted by this change).
> >
> > Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> >
>



-- 
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Marius Dumitru Florea]

+1

Thanks,
Marius

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Eduard Moraru  wrote:

> Hi, devs.
>
> We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
> * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
> * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
>
> And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
> * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
> creation date should be the date of the installation
> * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 :
> XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
>
> TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
> created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git that
> users might end up installing.
>
> Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
> * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in the
> wiki)
> * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
> using backup import
> * Use the current user and current date for the document update date, if
> imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
>
> Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of the
> xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki pages
> and to remove them. The fields are:
> * date
> * contentUpdateDate
> * creationDate
> * attachment/date
>
> See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
>
> This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with the
> "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
> "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
> references).
>
> I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
> document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792) and
> your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
>
> Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be skipped by
> default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party code
> is not impacted by this change).
>
> Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Alex Cotiugă]

Hi,

+1 for enabled by default while being skippable if needed.

Thanks,
Alex

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)  wrote:

> +1 I would like to not have pages since 2005 anymore, hope everything else
> will be ok
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:11 PM Clément Aubin 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > +1 for enabled by default while being skippable if needed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Clément
> >
> > On 07/31/2018 06:52 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Adel Atallah 
> > wrote:
> > >> +1 enabled by default, obviously.
> > >>
> > >> Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 18:43, Eduard Moraru  a
> > écrit :
> > >>
> > >>> Hi, devs.
> > >>>
> > >>> We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
> > >>> * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/
> oodciq7pv6pj7eic
> > >>> * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
> > >>>
> > >>> And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
> > >>> * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 :
> Page
> > >>> creation date should be the date of the installation
> > >>> * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447  browse/XCOMMONS-1447
> > >:
> > >>> XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
> > >>>
> > >>> TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
> > >>> created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git
> > that
> > >>> users might end up installing.
> > >>>
> > >>> Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
> > >>> * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in
> > the
> > >>> wiki)
> > >>> * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki,
> if
> > >>> using backup import
> > >>> * Use the current user and current date for the document update date,
> > if
> > >>> imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
> > >>>
> > >>> Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of
> > the
> > >>> xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki
> > pages
> > >>> and to remove them. The fields are:
> > >>> * date
> > >>> * contentUpdateDate
> > >>> * creationDate
> > >>> * attachment/date
> > >>>
> > >>> See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
> > >>>
> > >>> This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely
> > with the
> > >>> "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
> > >>> "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
> > >>> references).
> > >>>
> > >>> I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
> > >>> document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/
> xwiki-platform/pull/792)
> > and
> > >>> your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might
> create.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be
> > skipped by
> > >>> default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party
> > code
> > >>> is not impacted by this change).
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Eduard
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)]

+1 I would like to not have pages since 2005 anymore, hope everything else
will be ok

Thanks,
Caty

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:11 PM Clément Aubin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 for enabled by default while being skippable if needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Clément
>
> On 07/31/2018 06:52 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Adel Atallah 
> wrote:
> >> +1 enabled by default, obviously.
> >>
> >> Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 18:43, Eduard Moraru  a
> écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hi, devs.
> >>>
> >>> We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
> >>> * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
> >>> * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
> >>>
> >>> And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
> >>> * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
> >>> creation date should be the date of the installation
> >>> * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447  >:
> >>> XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
> >>>
> >>> TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
> >>> created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git
> that
> >>> users might end up installing.
> >>>
> >>> Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
> >>> * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in
> the
> >>> wiki)
> >>> * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
> >>> using backup import
> >>> * Use the current user and current date for the document update date,
> if
> >>> imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
> >>>
> >>> Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of
> the
> >>> xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki
> pages
> >>> and to remove them. The fields are:
> >>> * date
> >>> * contentUpdateDate
> >>> * creationDate
> >>> * attachment/date
> >>>
> >>> See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
> >>>
> >>> This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely
> with the
> >>> "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
> >>> "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
> >>> references).
> >>>
> >>> I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
> >>> document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792)
> and
> >>> your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
> >>>
> >>> Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be
> skipped by
> >>> default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party
> code
> >>> is not impacted by this change).
> >>>
> >>> Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Eduard
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Clément Aubin]

Hi,

+1 for enabled by default while being skippable if needed.

Thanks,
Clément

On 07/31/2018 06:52 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Adel Atallah  wrote:
>> +1 enabled by default, obviously.
>>
>> Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 18:43, Eduard Moraru  a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi, devs.
>>>
>>> We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
>>> * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
>>> * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
>>>
>>> And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
>>> * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
>>> creation date should be the date of the installation
>>> * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 :
>>> XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
>>>
>>> TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
>>> created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git that
>>> users might end up installing.
>>>
>>> Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
>>> * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in the
>>> wiki)
>>> * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
>>> using backup import
>>> * Use the current user and current date for the document update date, if
>>> imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
>>>
>>> Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of the
>>> xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki pages
>>> and to remove them. The fields are:
>>> * date
>>> * contentUpdateDate
>>> * creationDate
>>> * attachment/date
>>>
>>> See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
>>>
>>> This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with the
>>> "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
>>> "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
>>> references).
>>>
>>> I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
>>> document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792) and
>>> your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
>>>
>>> Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be skipped by
>>> default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party code
>>> is not impacted by this change).
>>>
>>> Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eduard
>>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Thomas Mortagne]

+1

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Adel Atallah  wrote:
> +1 enabled by default, obviously.
>
> Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 18:43, Eduard Moraru  a écrit :
>
>> Hi, devs.
>>
>> We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
>> * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
>> * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
>>
>> And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
>> * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
>> creation date should be the date of the installation
>> * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 :
>> XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
>>
>> TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
>> created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git that
>> users might end up installing.
>>
>> Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
>> * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in the
>> wiki)
>> * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
>> using backup import
>> * Use the current user and current date for the document update date, if
>> imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
>>
>> Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of the
>> xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki pages
>> and to remove them. The fields are:
>> * date
>> * contentUpdateDate
>> * creationDate
>> * attachment/date
>>
>> See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
>>
>> This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with the
>> "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
>> "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
>> references).
>>
>> I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
>> document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792) and
>> your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
>>
>> Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be skipped by
>> default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party code
>> is not impacted by this change).
>>
>> Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eduard
>>



-- 
Thomas Mortagne

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Adel Atallah]

+1 enabled by default, obviously.

Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 18:43, Eduard Moraru  a écrit :

> Hi, devs.
>
> We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
> * July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
> * Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p
>
> And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
> * Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
> creation date should be the date of the installation
> * Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 :
> XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number
>
> TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
> created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git that
> users might end up installing.
>
> Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
> * Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in the
> wiki)
> * Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
> using backup import
> * Use the current user and current date for the document update date, if
> imported using non-backup import of EM extension install
>
> Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of the
> xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki pages
> and to remove them. The fields are:
> * date
> * contentUpdateDate
> * creationDate
> * attachment/date
>
> See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/
>
> This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with the
> "xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
> "xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
> references).
>
> I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
> document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792) and
> your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.
>
> Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be skipped by
> default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party code
> is not impacted by this change).
>
> Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>

[xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Update the xar plugin and stop committing XML wiki page date fields

[Eduard Moraru]

Hi, devs.

We have had 2 previous discussions on this topic:
* July 2016 (discussion): https://markmail.org/thread/oodciq7pv6pj7eic
* Jan 2018 (proposal): https://markmail.org/thread/ymwsebvr3k7voy3p

And we have at least 2 issues on this topic:
* Oct 2011: XWIKI-7058 : Page
creation date should be the date of the installation
* Feb 2015: XCOMMONS-1447 :
XAR plugin should replace the dates with a common number

TL;DR: It's causing confusion for our users to install pages that are
created in 2005/2009/etc. so we should avoid committing dates on git that
users might end up installing.

Reminder: Importing a document with empty dates will:
* Use the current date if the document is new (i.e. does not exist in the
wiki)
* Use the existing dates if the document already exists in the wiki, if
using backup import
* Use the current user and current date for the document update date, if
imported using non-backup import of EM extension install

Adel and myself have extended the xar:verify and xar:format goals of the
xar plugin to check for the existence of date fields in the XML wiki pages
and to remove them. The fields are:
* date
* contentUpdateDate
* creationDate
* attachment/date

See the PR https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/pull/44/

This check (on both verify and format goals) is skippable entirely with the
"xar.dates.skip property" (default to false) or
"xar.dates.skip.documentList" for individual documents (list of doc
references).

I need your vote for accepting the existing PR and for removing the
document dates (e.g. https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/792) and
your feedback in case you know of any problems that this might create.

Also, please mention if you would prefer for this behavior to be skipped by
default (and explicitly enabled on XWiki Standard, so that 3rd party code
is not impacted by this change).

Here's my +1 (enabled by default and skippable if needed).

Thanks,
Eduard