Re: D Logos

2014-06-27 Thread safety0ff via Digitalmars-d

On Thursday, 26 June 2014 at 08:15:35 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:


Perhaps just a subtle clean up then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryTjFybHNYYVVtc1k/edit

A...


I personally like the current one:
- I like how mars looks like its a reflection in the logo's 
background.

- I dislike how the moon mixes with the "D"

As for my opinion about your work, I'm inclined to agree with 
Wyatt's and H. S. Teoh's comments.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-27 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 26/06/2014 9:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:


Of all these, I find that I like the bottom right one the most.


I divided the options into left and right based on the emotion that I 
felt the angle of the shadow on the moon suggested, the left side are 
the ones that I felt were happy and optimistic, the right side the 
sadder ones, so I'm very surprised that anyone would pick a favourite 
from the right side oO




One
thing that could improve, though, is the planet's margin shouldn't be
white; it clashes with the D. Maybe a slight reddening of the white band
should fix it.


Good call, but quick experimentation has not found just the right colour 
yet. It seems that in order not to disappear it needs to get darker.



Also, it may help if the margin of the shadows on the
moons were made a tad softer -- make the edge between the two halves of
each moon just a little less sharp.


I like this idea.



T



Thanks for your feedback.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-27 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 26/06/2014 9:15 PM, Wyatt wrote:


I'll first admit I'm not fond of the font. I do agree with a sans serif
with fairly thick stroke, but I don't like the vertical stress and I
think a wider counter definitely looks better with these proportions.
What's the font in the current logo?


I don't know for sure, but I don't think its from a named font, rather 
it is probably hand drawn. (Designers tend to create a lot of partial 
fonts for customers because of licensing issues.) Very few typefaces 
have Ds that are wider that they are tall, like the one in the current 
logo appears.



The top two, I'm not sure how I feel about the hard edges.  More
importantly, though, I don't think there's enough contrast between the
red/pink and the white, so the "D" is rather hard to see.  How about
going darker on those?  Another option might be to give the letter a
thin outline.


The main red that I chose to use in all the variations so far is 
#DD, which was entirely a coincidence, but I do like the 
association. In those top two images, 90% of the time they took to draw 
was in the selection of a shade of pink that I thought contrasted nicely 
between the red and the white, but that is obviously very subjective.



The bottom six, I'm not keen on the use of black.  I find it clashes
harshly with the white and red.  But changing the white would muddle the
contrast with red, so maybe ease the black back to something a bit more
mild...say, #1F252B?  The shadows on the moons are nice, though; gives
them some interest and lightening the black would mess with that...
maybe make the shadows a darker red?  Not sure on that part.


What is Black, white an Red all over?
There is a named colour called Outer Space (#414A4C), but I think its 
meant as a shade of wax crayon. It doesn't look too bad however with, as 
you suggested, redder shadows on the moons.



-Wyatt


Thanks for your feed back ^^

A...



Re: D Logos

2014-06-26 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d

On 6/26/2014 1:15 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:

On 25/06/2014 5:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:


I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D With
Moons logo, and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as being D.



Perhaps just a subtle clean up then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryTjFybHNYYVVtc1k/edit

A...


I do think it's great that you and others are taking the initiative and doing 
the work to improve things!


But, and I hate to rain on things, but I really like the existing logo and don't 
think it needs improvement.


I have thought about making it into a gif, though, that very subtly pulses, or 
something, like a video made of a tree where the leaves move slightly in the wind.


My idea would be the planet in the bottom half of the background would appear to 
be slowly rotating, suggestive of the D and the moons being in orbit.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-26 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 08:15:46PM +, Wyatt via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 June 2014 at 08:15:35 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:
> >On 25/06/2014 5:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> >>
> >>I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D With
> >>Moons logo, and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as being D.
> >>
> >
> >Perhaps just a subtle clean up then?
> >
> >https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryTjFybHNYYVVtc1k/edit
> >
> >A...
[...]

Of all these, I find that I like the bottom right one the most. One
thing that could improve, though, is the planet's margin shouldn't be
white; it clashes with the D. Maybe a slight reddening of the white band
should fix it. Also, it may help if the margin of the shadows on the
moons were made a tad softer -- make the edge between the two halves of
each moon just a little less sharp.


T

-- 
Windows: the ultimate triumph of marketing over technology. -- Adrian von Bidder


Re: D Logos

2014-06-26 Thread Wyatt via Digitalmars-d

On Thursday, 26 June 2014 at 08:15:35 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:

On 25/06/2014 5:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:


I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D 
With
Moons logo, and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as 
being D.




Perhaps just a subtle clean up then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryTjFybHNYYVVtc1k/edit

A...


In general, I rather like these, but I have some comments.

I'll first admit I'm not fond of the font. I do agree with a sans 
serif with fairly thick stroke, but I don't like the vertical 
stress and I think a wider counter definitely looks better with 
these proportions.  What's the font in the current logo?


The top two, I'm not sure how I feel about the hard edges.  More 
importantly, though, I don't think there's enough contrast 
between the red/pink and the white, so the "D" is rather hard to 
see.  How about going darker on those?  Another option might be 
to give the letter a thin outline.


The bottom six, I'm not keen on the use of black.  I find it 
clashes harshly with the white and red.  But changing the white 
would muddle the contrast with red, so maybe ease the black back 
to something a bit more mild...say, #1F252B?  The shadows on the 
moons are nice, though; gives them some interest and lightening 
the black would mess with that... maybe make the shadows a darker 
red?  Not sure on that part.


-Wyatt


Re: D Logos

2014-06-26 Thread Tofu Ninja via Digitalmars-d

On Thursday, 26 June 2014 at 08:15:35 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:

On 25/06/2014 5:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:


I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D 
With
Moons logo, and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as 
being D.




Perhaps just a subtle clean up then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryTjFybHNYYVVtc1k/edit

A...


Personally, I like the ones we have now, the ones you linked 
don't improve it in my opinion.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-26 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 25/06/2014 5:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:


I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D With
Moons logo, and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as being D.



Perhaps just a subtle clean up then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryTjFybHNYYVVtc1k/edit

A...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 25/06/2014 6:34 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:


Having quickly patched it together in gimp, I'm leaning on either on
the right hand side.  The G on the bottom left could be nice next to
the D in a strange perspective (eg: a 3D box).


I agree ^^


At the same time I agree with Walter on the Moons logo.  But I'd like
to make it slightly unique.  Maybe a Gibbous Moon. :)


The real Phobos and Deimos look nothing like our moon, Deimos isn't even 
remotely spherical!



http://darkhorizons.emissionline.com/images/moon-ha2l.jpg

You could almost make out a G to fir into that...



And how do you feel about wolves?

I've got 9 total variations on the G now, my 2nd favourite of the ones 
I've not shown you is just a tiny tweak away from the top right version ^^


A...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 25 June 2014 16:33, Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
 wrote:
> On 25/06/2014 2:16 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>
>> On 25 June 2014 14:08, Iain Buclaw  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25 June 2014 12:07, Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
>>>  wrote:

 On 24/06/2014 9:58 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:

> You can also make a logo for GDC if you like. I'm phasing the site
> itself through something of an infrastructure change, may as well make
> some visual changes too to make it more appealing. ;-)
>
> http://gdcproject.org
>

 Here are half a morning's worth of doodles, let me know if you see
 anything
 you like.

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryaGVwb2NKT18zNFE/edit

 A...
>>>
>>>
>>> The circle O doodle could be a turned into the site favicon.
>>>
>>> I see you did a prettier version of the existing GDC logo, I think the
>>> G in that looks too much like C.  I think it would be better using the
>>> first G in the top left hand corner on the first line (GGDCC).
>>>
>>
>> Or maybe the second...
>>
>
> Gs can be tricky to draw (yes, these are drawn not from an existing font).
> The black letters at the top use different thicknesses for the horizontal
> and vertical strokes, so that G would look out of place with the red
> letters. Here are some quick variations (just the old red G with bits on
> ^^).
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryb2tmc2ZMdVMwcEE/edit
>
> A...


Having quickly patched it together in gimp, I'm leaning on either on
the right hand side.  The G on the bottom left could be nice next to
the D in a strange perspective (eg: a 3D box).

At the same time I agree with Walter on the Moons logo.  But I'd like
to make it slightly unique.  Maybe a Gibbous Moon. :)

http://darkhorizons.emissionline.com/images/moon-ha2l.jpg

You could almost make out a G to fir into that...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 25 June 2014 17:16, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
 wrote:
> On 6/15/2014 2:57 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>
>> More to the point, one doesn't just change a logo (*). The logo is a
>> part of the brand and the brand is more than the logo. Although D
>> doesn't really have an organized brand (at least as yet), the "letter D
>> with two moons" red logo and the current red/brown/black website are the
>> closest thing to a brand D has. There is also the issue of the D stick
>> figure as a mascot.
>>
>> Rust and Go may not have the world's best brands, but they have a more
>> joined up brand image than that of D. Just look at rust-lang.org and
>> golang.org alongside dlang.org. Creating a strong brand is not easy, and
>> it isn't just marketing hype; it is about looking at all aspects of
>> public facing material: colou?rs, shapes, images, logos, fonts, layout,
>> mascots, history,… A strong brand is a huge asset.
>>
>> The current D logo has a lot of history and a surprising public (as in
>> programmer) awareness. This is an intangible asset not to be thrown
>> away.
>>
>> We have had proposals for a new logo, a new website. I have no problem
>> with this, but just as when dlang.org split off from Digital Mars, there
>> needs to be thought about the whole brand, especially if you want to get
>> traction of D usage.
>
>
> I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D With Moons
> logo, and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as being D.
>


I forgot about these designs also:

http://wendlerchristoph.wordpress.com/designs-for-d/



Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d

On 6/15/2014 2:57 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:

More to the point, one doesn't just change a logo (*). The logo is a
part of the brand and the brand is more than the logo. Although D
doesn't really have an organized brand (at least as yet), the "letter D
with two moons" red logo and the current red/brown/black website are the
closest thing to a brand D has. There is also the issue of the D stick
figure as a mascot.

Rust and Go may not have the world's best brands, but they have a more
joined up brand image than that of D. Just look at rust-lang.org and
golang.org alongside dlang.org. Creating a strong brand is not easy, and
it isn't just marketing hype; it is about looking at all aspects of
public facing material: colou?rs, shapes, images, logos, fonts, layout,
mascots, history,… A strong brand is a huge asset.

The current D logo has a lot of history and a surprising public (as in
programmer) awareness. This is an intangible asset not to be thrown
away.

We have had proposals for a new logo, a new website. I have no problem
with this, but just as when dlang.org split off from Digital Mars, there
needs to be thought about the whole brand, especially if you want to get
traction of D usage.


I agree with Russel. I think we've had good success with the D With Moons logo, 
and it's use is pervasive and recognizable as being D.




Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 25/06/2014 2:16 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:

On 25 June 2014 14:08, Iain Buclaw  wrote:

On 25 June 2014 12:07, Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
 wrote:

On 24/06/2014 9:58 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:


You can also make a logo for GDC if you like. I'm phasing the site
itself through something of an infrastructure change, may as well make
some visual changes too to make it more appealing. ;-)

http://gdcproject.org



Here are half a morning's worth of doodles, let me know if you see anything
you like.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryaGVwb2NKT18zNFE/edit

A...


The circle O doodle could be a turned into the site favicon.

I see you did a prettier version of the existing GDC logo, I think the
G in that looks too much like C.  I think it would be better using the
first G in the top left hand corner on the first line (GGDCC).



Or maybe the second...



Gs can be tricky to draw (yes, these are drawn not from an existing 
font). The black letters at the top use different thicknesses for the 
horizontal and vertical strokes, so that G would look out of place with 
the red letters. Here are some quick variations (just the old red G with 
bits on ^^).


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryb2tmc2ZMdVMwcEE/edit

A...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Cain via Digitalmars-d

On Wednesday, 25 June 2014 at 11:07:47 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:
Here are half a morning's worth of doodles, let me know if you 
see anything you like.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryaGVwb2NKT18zNFE/edit

A...


Yeah, the one on the 3rd row next to GDC looks fantastic to me. 
I'd feel happy slapping that on my website to advertise that it 
runs on D. (obviously, though, I wouldn't want to use a 
non-standard logo, so it'd have to be accepted first)


That's just my opinion though. Great work :)


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 25 June 2014 14:08, Iain Buclaw  wrote:
> On 25 June 2014 12:07, Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
>  wrote:
>> On 24/06/2014 9:58 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>
>>> You can also make a logo for GDC if you like. I'm phasing the site
>>> itself through something of an infrastructure change, may as well make
>>> some visual changes too to make it more appealing. ;-)
>>>
>>> http://gdcproject.org
>>>
>>
>> Here are half a morning's worth of doodles, let me know if you see anything
>> you like.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryaGVwb2NKT18zNFE/edit
>>
>> A...
>
> The circle O doodle could be a turned into the site favicon.
>
> I see you did a prettier version of the existing GDC logo, I think the
> G in that looks too much like C.  I think it would be better using the
> first G in the top left hand corner on the first line (GGDCC).
>

Or maybe the second...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 25 June 2014 12:07, Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
 wrote:
> On 24/06/2014 9:58 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
>> You can also make a logo for GDC if you like. I'm phasing the site
>> itself through something of an infrastructure change, may as well make
>> some visual changes too to make it more appealing. ;-)
>>
>> http://gdcproject.org
>>
>
> Here are half a morning's worth of doodles, let me know if you see anything
> you like.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryaGVwb2NKT18zNFE/edit
>
> A...

The circle O doodle could be a turned into the site favicon.

I see you did a prettier version of the existing GDC logo, I think the
G in that looks too much like C.  I think it would be better using the
first G in the top left hand corner on the first line (GGDCC).

Not sure where the bottom right logo is going. :)

Regards
Iain


Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d

On 2014-06-24 16:03:50 +, Alix Pexton said:


On 22/06/2014 9:52 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:

I feel that most of the new logos that have been proposed lately are too
much of a departure from what we already have, so I'm throwing a few of
my own designs into the ring.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryMmJZSnpkdnNyR2M/edit

A...



In the spirit of being my own harshest critic, I did one more logo that 
addresses my biggest gripe with the originals. While the originals were 
still distinctive at small sizes, the incorporated letter-Ds became 
illegible. This revision retains the same character but with more 
clarity when shrunk.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryYWxJOXUwYU8yQ0U/edit

A...


Muchas Gracias.  Looks much better.

-Shammah



Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d

On 2014-06-24 16:52:47 +, Chris Cain said:


On Sunday, 22 June 2014 at 08:52:56 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit


I like the ones with Mars and Phobos on the side the most, but I feel 
like the top D is excessive and doesn't really communicate anything.


Maybe something like that, but without the top (that is, instead of an 
"overhead corner view" of the box, you'd be level with the box and 
looking at just two sides ... maybe with a some more emphasis on the D 
side)


I think any logo design really needs to incorporate Mars and Phobos and 
probably should be just red and white (preferably flat shaded to work 
with most "modern" logos). But that's just my thoughts as a 
non-designer.


Oh I didn't notice those omes.   Those are even better than the straight D one!



Re: D Logos

2014-06-25 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 24/06/2014 9:58 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:


You can also make a logo for GDC if you like. I'm phasing the site
itself through something of an infrastructure change, may as well make
some visual changes too to make it more appealing. ;-)

http://gdcproject.org



Here are half a morning's worth of doodles, let me know if you see 
anything you like.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryaGVwb2NKT18zNFE/edit

A...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-24 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 22 June 2014 09:52, Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
 wrote:
> I feel that most of the new logos that have been proposed lately are too
> much of a departure from what we already have, so I'm throwing a few of my
> own designs into the ring.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryMmJZSnpkdnNyR2M/edit
>
> A...
>

You can also make a logo for GDC if you like. I'm phasing the site
itself through something of an infrastructure change, may as well make
some visual changes too to make it more appealing. ;-)

http://gdcproject.org


Re: D Logos

2014-06-24 Thread Xavier Bigand via Digitalmars-d

Le 24/06/2014 18:03, Alix Pexton a écrit :

On 22/06/2014 9:52 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:

I feel that most of the new logos that have been proposed lately are too
much of a departure from what we already have, so I'm throwing a few of
my own designs into the ring.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryMmJZSnpkdnNyR2M/edit

A...



In the spirit of being my own harshest critic, I did one more logo that
addresses my biggest gripe with the originals. While the originals were
still distinctive at small sizes, the incorporated letter-Ds became
illegible. This revision retains the same character but with more
clarity when shrunk.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryYWxJOXUwYU8yQ0U/edit

A...


Certainly the best. But I think it miss something to indicate that is 
about a programing language.


Is it possible to insert "Lang" text inside the red D letter at least?


Re: D Logos

2014-06-24 Thread Chris Cain via Digitalmars-d

On Sunday, 22 June 2014 at 08:52:56 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit


I like the ones with Mars and Phobos on the side the most, but I 
feel like the top D is excessive and doesn't really communicate 
anything.


Maybe something like that, but without the top (that is, instead 
of an "overhead corner view" of the box, you'd be level with the 
box and looking at just two sides ... maybe with a some more 
emphasis on the D side)


I think any logo design really needs to incorporate Mars and 
Phobos and probably should be just red and white (preferably flat 
shaded to work with most "modern" logos). But that's just my 
thoughts as a non-designer.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-24 Thread David Gileadi via Digitalmars-d

On 6/24/14, 9:03 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:

On 22/06/2014 9:52 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:

I feel that most of the new logos that have been proposed lately are too
much of a departure from what we already have, so I'm throwing a few of
my own designs into the ring.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryMmJZSnpkdnNyR2M/edit

A...



In the spirit of being my own harshest critic, I did one more logo that
addresses my biggest gripe with the originals. While the originals were
still distinctive at small sizes, the incorporated letter-Ds became
illegible. This revision retains the same character but with more
clarity when shrunk.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryYWxJOXUwYU8yQ0U/edit

A...


I really like this. With all the three-faced cube designs I worry a 
little that it's saying "3D" instead of "D language" but I mostly don’t 
care; this is a very good-looking logo.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-24 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d

On 22/06/2014 9:52 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:

I feel that most of the new logos that have been proposed lately are too
much of a departure from what we already have, so I'm throwing a few of
my own designs into the ring.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryMmJZSnpkdnNyR2M/edit

A...



In the spirit of being my own harshest critic, I did one more logo that 
addresses my biggest gripe with the originals. While the originals were 
still distinctive at small sizes, the incorporated letter-Ds became 
illegible. This revision retains the same character but with more 
clarity when shrunk.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryYWxJOXUwYU8yQ0U/edit

A...


Re: D Logos

2014-06-22 Thread Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d
I feel that most of the new logos that have been proposed lately are too 
much of a departure from what we already have, so I'm throwing a few of 
my own designs into the ring.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryQU9OQlMydXJmeTQ/edit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i8FWPuOpryMmJZSnpkdnNyR2M/edit

A...



Re: D Logos

2014-06-20 Thread Guillaume Chatelet via Digitalmars-d

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Re: D Logos

2014-06-15 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 09:17 +, David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 13 June 2014 at 03:33:41 UTC, Khaled wrote:
> > If you like one of these designs and require some modifications 
> > then send me your feedbacks so I can update it accordingly.
> 
> I like the design in principle, but it doesn't seem to spell "D" 
> to my eyes at all, like others have already mentioned too.

More to the point, one doesn't just change a logo (*). The logo is a
part of the brand and the brand is more than the logo. Although D
doesn't really have an organized brand (at least as yet), the "letter D
with two moons" red logo and the current red/brown/black website are the
closest thing to a brand D has. There is also the issue of the D stick
figure as a mascot.

Rust and Go may not have the world's best brands, but they have a more
joined up brand image than that of D. Just look at rust-lang.org and
golang.org alongside dlang.org. Creating a strong brand is not easy, and
it isn't just marketing hype; it is about looking at all aspects of
public facing material: colou?rs, shapes, images, logos, fonts, layout,
mascots, history,… A strong brand is a huge asset.

The current D logo has a lot of history and a surprising public (as in
programmer) awareness. This is an intangible asset not to be thrown
away.

We have had proposals for a new logo, a new website. I have no problem
with this, but just as when dlang.org split off from Digital Mars, there
needs to be thought about the whole brand, especially if you want to get
traction of D usage.



(*) cf. One doesn't just walk into Mordor.

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Re: D Logos

2014-06-15 Thread David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d

On Friday, 13 June 2014 at 03:33:41 UTC, Khaled wrote:
If you like one of these designs and require some modifications 
then send me your feedbacks so I can update it accordingly.


I like the design in principle, but it doesn't seem to spell "D" 
to my eyes at all, like others have already mentioned too.


David


Re: D Logos

2014-06-15 Thread Guillaume Chatelet via Digitalmars-d

Alright, here is a link to a form so everyone can vote :

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1eL0AgKvoLyd9DVpzwG-mm2Uk82WdCjDrWSBP3MZpEFY/viewform?usp=send_form



Jonathan mentioned the logo doesn't make him think about D. My
interpretation of the logo is the following. It's three equal and
intertwined pieces :
- the 'three' parts represent Ds no compromise between
convenience, modeling power and efficiency. If you put the logo
aside those statements I think it's pretty obvious.
- parts are the same, meaning the language is balanced properly
with none of these properties outweighing the other ones.
- parts are intertwined (at least in the logo I prefer), each
design choice interacts nicely with the other ones.
- it has D in it, although a bit hard to see I agree.
- the logo looks sophisticated, which D is obviously.

So I think it conveys some of the ideas behind D.
Rust's logo emphasis security and strongness.
Python's logo emphasis on flexibility and malleability.
Java's logo emphasis on ... coffee breaks :)

Anyways, feel free to provide some feedback in the form, let's
see the outcome in one week.

G


Re: D Logos

2014-06-14 Thread HaraldZealot via Digitalmars-d
Well, they're definitely cool looking (and I certainly couldn't 
do anything
that looks that good), but nothing about them makes me think of 
D.


- Jonathan M Davis


I totally agree with Jonathan.


--
Alaksiej Stankievič


Re: D Logos

2014-06-14 Thread K.K. via Digitalmars-d

These are cool. 1,5, and 6 I thought were the best. These are
just drafts though, right? Maybe needs a little color or atleast
a greyscale gradient going on.

The main thing to change would be to make the "hooks" on each
face of the cube have a stronger or more obvious 'D' shape though.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-13 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 03:33:40 +
Khaled via Digitalmars-d  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Since I become a D fan, I decided to come up with a logo designs
> for this awesome language. If you like one of these designs and
> require some modifications then send me your feedbacks so I can
> update it accordingly.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPLUQ5bDJBeGJlNmc/edit?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPM0NxX0pkN0U5SVk/edit?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPQkI1QVpSVEwzUE0/edit?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPT0cxb0RqUW01OEE/edit?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPTmlPNHVkdXRJblE/edit?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPUlktWEF6UlJWQWs/edit?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPVzJvRzBhTC1EaXc/edit?usp=sharing

Well, they're definitely cool looking (and I certainly couldn't do anything
that looks that good), but nothing about them makes me think of D.

- Jonathan M Davis


Re: D Logos

2014-06-13 Thread Khaled via Digitalmars-d

On Friday, 13 June 2014 at 09:41:36 UTC, Guillaume Chatelet wrote:

I like them !
Do you want to create a doodle or a form so people can vote ?


I think it would a good idea to create a form so people can 
select one logo among those seven designs. And by that, I would 
be able to apply required modifications based on the thoughtful 
feedbacks mentioned above by Shammah & Chris.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-13 Thread Chris Williams via Digitalmars-d

On Friday, 13 June 2014 at 03:33:41 UTC, Khaled wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPVzJvRzBhTC1EaXc/edit?usp=sharing


Overall, I like them. I agree that it's not intuitive that it's a 
"d", but I don't think that's a strong drawback, if all you want 
is something cool to put on a shirt or coffee cup.


In the last picture, I don't think the top and bottom lines are 
parallel, so it's making it look like weird perspective.


Re: D Logos

2014-06-13 Thread Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d

On 2014-06-13 03:33:40 +, Khaled said:


Hi,

Since I become a D fan, I decided to come up with a logo designs for 
this awesome language. If you like one of these designs and require 
some modifications then send me your feedbacks so I can update it 
accordingly.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPLUQ5bDJBeGJlNmc/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPM0NxX0pkN0U5SVk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPQkI1QVpSVEwzUE0/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPT0cxb0RqUW01OEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPTmlPNHVkdXRJblE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPUlktWEF6UlJWQWs/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPVzJvRzBhTC1EaXc/edit?usp=sharing

regards,
Khaled



They look very nice.   However,  are those '@' signs or 'd's?

-Shammah



Re: D Logos

2014-06-13 Thread Guillaume Chatelet via Digitalmars-d

I like them !
Do you want to create a doodle or a form so people can vote ?


D Logos

2014-06-12 Thread Khaled via Digitalmars-d

Hi,

Since I become a D fan, I decided to come up with a logo designs 
for this awesome language. If you like one of these designs and 
require some modifications then send me your feedbacks so I can 
update it accordingly.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPLUQ5bDJBeGJlNmc/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPM0NxX0pkN0U5SVk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPQkI1QVpSVEwzUE0/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPT0cxb0RqUW01OEE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPTmlPNHVkdXRJblE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPUlktWEF6UlJWQWs/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LJS0oMStiPVzJvRzBhTC1EaXc/edit?usp=sharing

regards,
Khaled