Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:30:44 UTC, JN wrote: I'm no expert on programming language design, but I think there is a difference between templates and generics. At the basic level they are used for similar things - specializing container types, etc. But templates usually allow much more, so they end up being layers of layers of compile time code, e.g. D and Boost, which while nifty has it's compilation time cost. I agree. But I don't know of any way to add generics without slowing compilation or making the language harder to use, even if it's something other than templates.
Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:30:44 UTC, JN wrote: I'm no expert on programming language design, but I think there is a difference between templates and generics. At the basic level they are used for similar things - specializing container types, etc. But templates usually allow much more, so they end up being layers of layers of compile time code, e.g. D and Boost, which while nifty has it's compilation time cost. Generic programming just means that you leave out the specification for some types in the code for later. C++-style templates like D has is one solution to generic programming. When some people write «generics» they probably think of Java and something that is like that...
Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:01:45 UTC, bachmeier wrote: It's also something that they've kept out of the language by design. I don't disagree with that decision either. If the selling points are fast compilation and code that is simple to write and read without much knowledge of the language, it's hard to see how generics fit in. Look at D. Templates slow compilation and having a standard library that emphasizes generic code makes it much harder to learn. I'm no expert on programming language design, but I think there is a difference between templates and generics. At the basic level they are used for similar things - specializing container types, etc. But templates usually allow much more, so they end up being layers of layers of compile time code, e.g. D and Boost, which while nifty has it's compilation time cost.
Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Monday, 26 February 2018 at 21:37:40 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 09:04:20PM +, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] 2) generic programming is important [...] It's something sorely lacking in Go, so it's not unsurprising it's a big item on the list. T It's also something that they've kept out of the language by design. I don't disagree with that decision either. If the selling points are fast compilation and code that is simple to write and read without much knowledge of the language, it's hard to see how generics fit in. Look at D. Templates slow compilation and having a standard library that emphasizes generic code makes it much harder to learn.
Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Monday, 26 February 2018 at 21:04:20 UTC, Ali wrote: This link was posted today on hacker news (ycombinator) https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16468358 My biggest takes from this are 1) people are looking for python alternatives, probably more so than c alternatives 2) generic programming is important Or why I learned D.
Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 09:04:20PM +, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] > 2) generic programming is important [...] It's something sorely lacking in Go, so it's not unsurprising it's a big item on the list. T -- BREAKFAST.COM halted...Cereal Port Not Responding. -- YHL
Re: Go 2017 Survey Results
On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 21:04 +, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote: > This link was posted today on hacker news (ycombinator) > https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16468358 > > My biggest takes from this are > 1) people are looking for python alternatives, probably more so > than c alternatives People choosing to complete a Go-oriented survey are… > 2) generic programming is important > > As I understand the results of this survey, will be use to guide > Go's development > this is in my opinion very inclusive and transparent I can't imagine Go getting templates anytime soon. -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Go 2017 Survey Results
This link was posted today on hacker news (ycombinator) https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16468358 My biggest takes from this are 1) people are looking for python alternatives, probably more so than c alternatives 2) generic programming is important As I understand the results of this survey, will be use to guide Go's development this is in my opinion very inclusive and transparent
