Re: Online impersonation

2018-05-24 Thread Patrick Schluter via Digitalmars-d

On Thursday, 24 May 2018 at 06:32:23 UTC, Dukc wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 17:31:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. 
All of them came from the same IP. I have a filter on my 
thunderbird client to flag certain IPs, and his was added to 
the list recently.


Then again, it's possible they're family members or neighbours 
using the same IP. How likely this is, I won't comment.


I don't this is a case of inpersonation if you're right, since 
the aliases have not been trying to inpersonate any real, exact 
person. But dishonourable action nonetheless.


It was quite obvious that KingJoffrey could be the sock puppeteer 
as he was childish and unreasonable all along the thread about 
private class members.


Re: Online impersonation

2018-05-24 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d

On Thursday, 24 May 2018 at 06:32:23 UTC, Dukc wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 17:31:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. 
All of them came from the same IP. I have a filter on my 
thunderbird client to flag certain IPs, and his was added to 
the list recently.


Then again, it's possible they're family members or neighbours 
using the same IP. How likely this is, I won't comment.


I don't this is a case of inpersonation if you're right, since 
the aliases have not been trying to inpersonate any real, exact 
person. But dishonourable action nonetheless.


There was a post impersonating Steven, but I can't see it now so 
I guess it was removed.


Re: Online impersonation

2018-05-24 Thread rikki cattermole via Digitalmars-d

On 24/05/2018 6:32 PM, Dukc wrote:

On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 17:31:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. All of 
them came from the same IP. I have a filter on my thunderbird client 
to flag certain IPs, and his was added to the list recently.


Then again, it's possible they're family members or neighbours using the 
same IP. How likely this is, I won't comment.


It's a dynamic IP, so it'll be invalid sooner rather than later.


Re: Online impersonation

2018-05-24 Thread Dukc via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 17:31:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. All 
of them came from the same IP. I have a filter on my 
thunderbird client to flag certain IPs, and his was added to 
the list recently.


Then again, it's possible they're family members or neighbours 
using the same IP. How likely this is, I won't comment.


I don't this is a case of inpersonation if you're right, since 
the aliases have not been trying to inpersonate any real, exact 
person. But dishonourable action nonetheless.






Re: Online impersonation

2018-05-23 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d

On 5/23/18 1:19 PM, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 12:32:50 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I'm just going to warn everyone here that one person is posting as 
KingJoffrey, VectorThis, Grady Booch, FuckYou, and in this thread he 
is impersonating 12345swordy, and in others he has impersonated 
WalterBright as well.




Auch! I presume you are able to conclude this from looking at logs etc,


The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. All of them 
came from the same IP. I have a filter on my thunderbird client to flag 
certain IPs, and his was added to the list recently.


thanks for letting us know. I wonder if the post in the name of 
BjarneStroustrup is from the same person.


It was.

Impersonation is a criminal offense [1] and should not be joked with. It 
is also difficult to prevent in general. Impersonation of another forum 
member is possibly easier to detect. Maybe some sort of message signing 
could be implemented? Even without impersonation, individuals posting 
under multiple identities can only have unfair intents (especially in 
the same thread) and it would be nice if the forum could expose this 
automatically. It is a shame that this would require someone's time that 
could well be invested elsewhere, but maybe it's just part of growing 
pains.


I would like to see at least an inability to post with the same exact 
handle/name as someone who has an account with that name. Or at least 
put such posts through moderation first.


-Steve


Online impersonation

2018-05-23 Thread Bastiaan Veelo via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 12:32:50 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
I'm just going to warn everyone here that one person is posting 
as KingJoffrey, VectorThis, Grady Booch, FuckYou, and in this 
thread he is impersonating 12345swordy, and in others he has 
impersonated WalterBright as well.


-Steve


Auch! I presume you are able to conclude this from looking at 
logs etc, thanks for letting us know. I wonder if the post in the 
name of BjarneStroustrup is from the same person.


Impersonation is a criminal offense [1] and should not be joked 
with. It is also difficult to prevent in general. Impersonation 
of another forum member is possibly easier to detect. Maybe some 
sort of message signing could be implemented? Even without 
impersonation, individuals posting under multiple identities can 
only have unfair intents (especially in the same thread) and it 
would be nice if the forum could expose this automatically. It is 
a shame that this would require someone's time that could well be 
invested elsewhere, but maybe it's just part of growing pains.


[1] 
https://sharpcriminalattorney.com/internet-crimes/4971/online-impersonation-the-little-brother-of-identity-theft/